I'm still maintaining my stance that this will be the worst selling main Halo entry.
Read my post. There's some proof in the pudding.
Let's just say launch sales include a phenomenal 400K Halo 5 bundles at $350 each, and the game editions themselves, the $60/$100/$250 editions at 90%/9%/1%, that comes out to about 4.4 million units sold, say round down to 4 million due to the most cynical expectations about microtransactions... that's still pretty fucking good.
Or, I could more conservatively tweak the numbers, 500K bonsole bundles sold, edition breakdown at 85%/13%/2% for $60/$100/$250; still 3.8 million consoles sold, say 3.5 million on account of cynical expectations about microtransactions... still pretty fucking good.
I mean, who's damage controlling here? Those claiming they're skewing numbers or those who refuse to acknowledge the game is doing good? I think it's obviously the haters just can't take it. The game will still be selling for a long while to come too, and Christmas shopping season hasn't even begun.
I'm still maintaining my stance that this will be the worst selling main Halo entry.
It probably already IS the worst selling halo especially now that for the first time MS is combining even accessories to calculate the $400 million, it includes hardware even controllers (i've seen halo5 toys too being sold at gamestop those added too MS? lel)
I mean those games can easily sell more cause those are multiplatform games. I don't know if Fallout will do it but definitely CoD. Fallout has been heavily marketed for the X1 also so it will be interesting what the sales breakdown of that game will be.
Nope. Not what I'm looking at.
Doesn't really matter what you are looking for, this was a statement that I wanted to see what the outcome will be.
Halo 3 "Within the first day of its launch, “Halo 3” players worldwide racked up more than 3.6 million hours of online gameplay, which increased more than elevenfold to 40 million hours by the end of the first week,"
40 million hours in first week
Halo 4 "with over 4 million players in the first five days. Users spent a total of 31.4 million hours playing “Halo 4,”
31.4 million hours in first week.
Halo 5 "Fans have logged more than 21 million hours of total gameplay, including 12 million hours in campaign mode alone."
21 million hours in the first week.
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Bottom line is, MS knew the series has been languishing. This is why they have chosen to monetize it with RMT, $250/$100/$60 editions of the game, a $500 hardware bundle, a special edition controller, and even a Halo branded headset. They may have even gone so far as to lump all of their normal XBox One hardware sales into that weekly figure as the statement leaves that completely open to interpretation.
I have never called into question MSes ability to monetize the Halo franchise. I have called into question Halo's status as a system seller. If we look at the PR releases regarding Halo 3 compared to Halo 5, it may have sold damn near half as many software units on top of everything else. Needless to say, my jimmies have not been rustled. At least, not yet.
Bottomline, "Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time." All these other numbers you just googled up means nothing cause you want to compare Halo numbers to Halo numbers lol. Of course not all Halo's will sell the same amount each and every time but to generate 400 million in global sales mean the game is still pretty much relevant to gamers world wide.
Try as hard as you might, still doesn't take away from the fact that the game and hardware associated with the game has sold millions in just a week, what do you think the sales numbers will be when we get to black friday? It will be massive.
@lundy86_4: i have another funfact for you.
did you know that every sold digital copy provides more revenue for MS ?
again this 400m bla bla bla doesn't mean halo 5 is a system seller or a retail best seller, all this means is garbage PR to make lems feel good.
@PraetorianMan: That was a response to lglz, which in which he already responded in return. I forgot to reply to his post.
Still, it was pretty much what many expected on this board. After the debacle that MCC, the name didn't come out of it unscathed. That being said, even combining all the hardware bundles and varying game releases, plus accessories and microtransactions... It's still impressive. Unless we want to sit here and speculate as to whether 50% of those sales went on the Halo controller and microtransactions. It's all moot at this point.
I mean those games can easily sell more cause those are multiplatform games. I don't know if Fallout will do it but definitely CoD. Fallout has been heavily marketed for the X1 also so it will be interesting what the sales breakdown of that game will be.
Nope. Not what I'm looking at.
Doesn't really matter what you are looking for, this was a statement that I wanted to see what the outcome will be.
Halo 3 "Within the first day of its launch, “Halo 3” players worldwide racked up more than 3.6 million hours of online gameplay, which increased more than elevenfold to 40 million hours by the end of the first week,"
40 million hours in first week
Halo 4 "with over 4 million players in the first five days. Users spent a total of 31.4 million hours playing “Halo 4,”
31.4 million hours in first week.
Halo 5 "Fans have logged more than 21 million hours of total gameplay, including 12 million hours in campaign mode alone."
21 million hours in the first week.
-------------------------------------------------
Bottom line is, MS knew the series has been languishing. This is why they have chosen to monetize it with RMT, $250/$100/$60 editions of the game, a $500 hardware bundle, a special edition controller, and even a Halo branded headset. They may have even gone so far as to lump all of their normal XBox One hardware sales into that weekly figure as the statement leaves that completely open to interpretation.
I have never called into question MSes ability to monetize the Halo franchise. I have called into question Halo's status as a system seller. If we look at the PR releases regarding Halo 3 compared to Halo 5, it may have sold damn near half as many software units on top of everything else. Needless to say, my jimmies have not been rustled. At least, not yet.
Bottomline, "Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time." All these other numbers you just googled up means nothing cause you want to compare Halo numbers to Halo numbers lol. Of course not all Halo's will sell the same amount each and every time but to generate 400 million in global sales mean the game is still pretty much relevant to gamers world wide.
Try as hard as you might, still doesn't take away from the fact that the game and hardware associated with the game has sold millions in just a week, what do you think the sales numbers will be when we get to black friday? It will be massive.
LOL! I ain't trying nothing. I'm existing in facts. You're the one telling me greatness awaits on Black Friday. All waving your fist in the air and shit. All Doctor Claw "I'll get you next time Gadget, next time" up in here and shit.
Just keep petting your cat, bro.
Nope. Not what I'm looking at.
Doesn't really matter what you are looking for, this was a statement that I wanted to see what the outcome will be.
Halo 3 "Within the first day of its launch, “Halo 3” players worldwide racked up more than 3.6 million hours of online gameplay, which increased more than elevenfold to 40 million hours by the end of the first week,"
40 million hours in first week
Halo 4 "with over 4 million players in the first five days. Users spent a total of 31.4 million hours playing “Halo 4,”
31.4 million hours in first week.
Halo 5 "Fans have logged more than 21 million hours of total gameplay, including 12 million hours in campaign mode alone."
21 million hours in the first week.
-------------------------------------------------
Bottom line is, MS knew the series has been languishing. This is why they have chosen to monetize it with RMT, $250/$100/$60 editions of the game, a $500 hardware bundle, a special edition controller, and even a Halo branded headset. They may have even gone so far as to lump all of their normal XBox One hardware sales into that weekly figure as the statement leaves that completely open to interpretation.
I have never called into question MSes ability to monetize the Halo franchise. I have called into question Halo's status as a system seller. If we look at the PR releases regarding Halo 3 compared to Halo 5, it may have sold damn near half as many software units on top of everything else. Needless to say, my jimmies have not been rustled. At least, not yet.
Bottomline, "Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time." All these other numbers you just googled up means nothing cause you want to compare Halo numbers to Halo numbers lol. Of course not all Halo's will sell the same amount each and every time but to generate 400 million in global sales mean the game is still pretty much relevant to gamers world wide.
Try as hard as you might, still doesn't take away from the fact that the game and hardware associated with the game has sold millions in just a week, what do you think the sales numbers will be when we get to black friday? It will be massive.
LOL! I ain't trying nothing. I'm existing in facts. You're the one telling me greatness awaits on Black Friday. All waving your fist in the air and shit. All Doctor Claw "I'll get you next time Gadget, next time" up in here and shit.
Just keep petting your cat, bro.
FACT:
Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time.
Isn't greatness awaits Playstation's motto? Why would I use that for anything MS or Xbox?
Doesn't really matter what you are looking for, this was a statement that I wanted to see what the outcome will be.
Halo 3 "Within the first day of its launch, “Halo 3” players worldwide racked up more than 3.6 million hours of online gameplay, which increased more than elevenfold to 40 million hours by the end of the first week,"
40 million hours in first week
Halo 4 "with over 4 million players in the first five days. Users spent a total of 31.4 million hours playing “Halo 4,”
31.4 million hours in first week.
Halo 5 "Fans have logged more than 21 million hours of total gameplay, including 12 million hours in campaign mode alone."
21 million hours in the first week.
-------------------------------------------------
Bottom line is, MS knew the series has been languishing. This is why they have chosen to monetize it with RMT, $250/$100/$60 editions of the game, a $500 hardware bundle, a special edition controller, and even a Halo branded headset. They may have even gone so far as to lump all of their normal XBox One hardware sales into that weekly figure as the statement leaves that completely open to interpretation.
I have never called into question MSes ability to monetize the Halo franchise. I have called into question Halo's status as a system seller. If we look at the PR releases regarding Halo 3 compared to Halo 5, it may have sold damn near half as many software units on top of everything else. Needless to say, my jimmies have not been rustled. At least, not yet.
Bottomline, "Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time." All these other numbers you just googled up means nothing cause you want to compare Halo numbers to Halo numbers lol. Of course not all Halo's will sell the same amount each and every time but to generate 400 million in global sales mean the game is still pretty much relevant to gamers world wide.
Try as hard as you might, still doesn't take away from the fact that the game and hardware associated with the game has sold millions in just a week, what do you think the sales numbers will be when we get to black friday? It will be massive.
LOL! I ain't trying nothing. I'm existing in facts. You're the one telling me greatness awaits on Black Friday. All waving your fist in the air and shit. All Doctor Claw "I'll get you next time Gadget, next time" up in here and shit.
Just keep petting your cat, bro.
FACT:
Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time.
Isn't greatness awaits Playstation's motto? Why would I use that for anything MS or Xbox?
Because, reasons!
Halo 3 "Within the first day of its launch, “Halo 3” players worldwide racked up more than 3.6 million hours of online gameplay, which increased more than elevenfold to 40 million hours by the end of the first week,"
40 million hours in first week
Halo 4 "with over 4 million players in the first five days. Users spent a total of 31.4 million hours playing “Halo 4,”
31.4 million hours in first week.
Halo 5 "Fans have logged more than 21 million hours of total gameplay, including 12 million hours in campaign mode alone."
21 million hours in the first week.
-------------------------------------------------
Bottom line is, MS knew the series has been languishing. This is why they have chosen to monetize it with RMT, $250/$100/$60 editions of the game, a $500 hardware bundle, a special edition controller, and even a Halo branded headset. They may have even gone so far as to lump all of their normal XBox One hardware sales into that weekly figure as the statement leaves that completely open to interpretation.
I have never called into question MSes ability to monetize the Halo franchise. I have called into question Halo's status as a system seller. If we look at the PR releases regarding Halo 3 compared to Halo 5, it may have sold damn near half as many software units on top of everything else. Needless to say, my jimmies have not been rustled. At least, not yet.
Bottomline, "Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time." All these other numbers you just googled up means nothing cause you want to compare Halo numbers to Halo numbers lol. Of course not all Halo's will sell the same amount each and every time but to generate 400 million in global sales mean the game is still pretty much relevant to gamers world wide.
Try as hard as you might, still doesn't take away from the fact that the game and hardware associated with the game has sold millions in just a week, what do you think the sales numbers will be when we get to black friday? It will be massive.
LOL! I ain't trying nothing. I'm existing in facts. You're the one telling me greatness awaits on Black Friday. All waving your fist in the air and shit. All Doctor Claw "I'll get you next time Gadget, next time" up in here and shit.
Just keep petting your cat, bro.
FACT:
Microsoft has announced that Halo 5: Guardians generated more than $400 million in global sales during its first week, meaning the Xbox One game is now the "biggest Halo launch" of all time.
Isn't greatness awaits Playstation's motto? Why would I use that for anything MS or Xbox?
Because, reasons!
What reason? You making no sense now.
@misterpmedia: all subjective dude. You can't prove one is better (therefore more guilty) and I can't prove the opposite. Its the proof of gods existence dilemma. You're going to believe what serves you here and I the same. Thing is I'll admit to it. You?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sure, let's just lump hardware sales with software, now. Why not? Good job, MS. Taking PR to a whole new level with this one.
pretty sure your were blabbing about how Halo 5 wont sell enough systems to make a difference. So which is it?
Even if you lowball the numbers it had to have sold at least 4 million which is still outstanding. No PS4 exclusive has had numbers close to this with double the install base.
Halo 5 was also bundled with Hardware and a controller. People on here swear MS only made Halo 5 as a disk based game and you can only pick up in a store . MS would have to count every unit in the custom bundle sold, every unit sold online, bought at a store probably more hassle than its worth to count at this time. Give it time more data received MS will fill us in.
No matter you try and slice it 400M is great. If a bulk is hardware sales, then it sold a shit ton and if the bulk is software (which most likely it is) then it sold more than 3 million. Regardless, it's still very good for MS.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sure, let's just lump hardware sales with software, now. Why not? Good job, MS. Taking PR to a whole new level with this one.
pretty sure your were blabbing about how Halo 5 wont sell enough systems to make a difference. So which is it?
Even if you lowball the numbers it had to have sold at least 4 million which is still outstanding. No PS4 exclusive has had numbers close to this with double the install base.
I don't think it sold 4 million on launch week. The max is most likely 3 million.The amount it sold is most likely going to be between 1.5 and 3 million.
Cows are so hellbent on sales. Halo 5 owners are only laughing because of the failed thread that claimed Halo 5 was a commercial failure. I guess Id be mad if I only had The order, infamous, Bloodborne and Drive club for exclusives *shrug*. If any of those PS4 games sold like Halo, thered be no reason to damage control it. It is what its. Have fun doing what you do best though, cows. Im here for the ride.
Pretty neat attachment rate given.
meanwhile, struggles to be on the top 15 on twitch.
"buh buh twitch is irrelevant" ... another mediocre halo entry through and through. if this was cod it would be mocked.
5x as many people are watching a friggin alpha of overwatch for gods sake.
pretty sure your were blabbing about how Halo 5 wont sell enough systems to make a difference. So which is it?
Even if you lowball the numbers it had to have sold at least 4 million which is still outstanding. No PS4 exclusive has had numbers close to this with double the install base.
You don't know that Halo 5 sold 4 million units in its first week.
We'll have a better idea what the actual sales were when NPD numbers get leaked. You certainly can't deduce anything from that Microsoft PR statement.
A lot of angry cows in here. No matter how you spin it, Halo pulled in $400 million during week one. That's a lot for a game on one platform. Lets see if Uncharted 4 does the same.
Pretty neat attachment rate given.
meanwhile, struggles to be on the top 15 on twitch.
"buh buh twitch is irrelevant" ... another mediocre halo entry through and through. if this was cod it would be mocked.
Yes and shouldn't attachment rate be the definitive metric to measure a games success?
As far as it being mediocre I'm going to have to disagree. It's far from mediocre.
So either Halo 5 moved tons of software, Halo 5 was literally a "system seller" by moving tons of consoles, or BOTH.. Sorry, there's no spinning this one, cows.. Halo 5 was both a critical and commercial success, the franchise is alive and well, and the PS4 doesn't have an exclusive first-person shooter that comes close to Halo 5 in terms of multiplayer and popularity..
Great job 343i.. well deserved.
So no actual sales numbers and they are lumping software revenue in with hardware revenue and requisition pack microtransactions. This is some classic m$ spin. All we get is some pointless stat about how many packs of microtransactions their clueless fanboys are buying. This is like when they tried to tell us how many zombies were killed in Dead Rising 3 to spin the xbones abysmal launch. We'll know the truth when the NPD is released soon. Add those numbers with the UK launch and you get the real sales.
@FastRobby:
Which mean totally nothing since again 50/50 still put halo 5 sales 70k behind halo 3 but is not 50/50 i am sure.
Also counting dollars done on bundle to artificially inflate de number of millions done a create a false sense of hype is ultra low even for ms last time i check halo didnt need that to sell great.
cows talking about PR spin you guys in this thread all need to get hired at some agency.
Theres people here trying to say it hit these numbers because of microtransactions (lol) and elite controllers sales (they only released a limited number of these and they all arent Halo themed)
Even if you include all of this stuff you still lose this one. Cows sure are sore losers. Guys in here screaming, "lies!" lol
BEST. FLOP. EVER.
I love how all the fanboys in here are trying to downplay the sales of Halo 5 to another Halo game LMAO... No mention of it's sales compared to Bloodborne or The Order or any other Playstation game that can't come close to it but they want to compare Halo 5 to Halo 3 LMAO... What clowns.
Great work for MS and Halo 5 making that much money & being the best Halo ever. The MP is so damn good & endless amount of fun. lol at Sony fanboys on here 24/7 being all mad & angry with there fake laugh out louds. They just mad that they have nothing to play yet again this holiday for the 3rd year in a row with nothing but uh...Vita ports & Uncharted The Handicap Collection £38.98 lol. Stay mad and steaming sony fanboys cuz u r gonna have yet again another boring holiday lol. I can see why they're mad with that much shovelware this holiday lol
At least they have the twitch app now so they can watch people play Halo 5.
@FastRobby:
Which mean totally nothing since again 50/50 still put halo 5 sales 70k behind halo 3 but is not 50/50 i am sure.
Also counting dollars done on bundle to artificially inflate de number of millions done a create a false sense of hype is ultra low even for ms last time i check halo didnt need that to sell great.
Dude, not one iota of that made sense. Try again.
Is this sold to retailers or sold to consumers? If the former, it's possible that retailers over
haha you beat my thread by like 20 seconds.
@charizard1605- - it includes hardware sales though, so that figure wont work too well. though if you take away software sales from that, well then i guess it would make it a system seller
so basically TCHBO that is all.
How have the cows been owned? Didn't the cows expect Halo to sell well?
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/halo-5-launches-at-1-in-uk-but-has-lowest-debut-fo-32725653/#283
Cows claiming Halo is dead
What I read in that thread, and I saw it while it was active, were mostly statements that Halo is regressing rather than dead. Considering this press release does little to differentiate actual game sales from revenues derived from hardware sales, micro transactions or any miscellaneous revenues tied to the Halo release, you really can't draw much of a conclusion.
Considering this generation is starved for big-name game franchises, it shouldn't come as much surprise that Halo is selling well despite any obfuscation from Microsoft regarding related revenues.
I am a fan of the Xbox brand...I have enjoyed it since the OG....but I am not blind and I enjoy Playstation games as well, I own a PS3 & PS4.....but since the middle of last gen I have been big on building and upgrading my PC and playing 90% of multiplats on that. Just a brief history of myself for you because actually you don't know ;)
That's some real meaty chickenfriedrice lore right there, we ought to get a wiki page set up for you something fast.
Sadly none of it disproves any of my comment.
@misterpmedia: all subjective dude. You can't prove one is better (therefore more guilty) and I can't prove the opposite. Its the proof of gods existence dilemma. You're going to believe what serves you here and I the same. Thing is I'll admit to it. You?
I'm going to critical think, call out and raise an eyebrow and not let this A grade hand crafted bespoke piece of PR shadow play wash over me. It is something very special though. MS does have the best PR, exclusively.
If you want it to serve as a 100% success story, than more power to you! Let other people untangle the wires MS has veiled over it.
cows talking about PR spin you guys in this thread all need to get hired at some agency.
Theres people here trying to say it hit these numbers because of microtransactions (lol) and elite controllers sales (they only released a limited number of these and they all arent Halo themed)
Even if you include all of this stuff you still lose this one. Cows sure are sore losers. Guys in here screaming, "lies!" lol
BEST. FLOP. EVER.
It includes hardware too, as in console bundles. The Halo bundle is selling for 500 bucks.
Either way it's good for MS, but I think it's a pretty heft decline from previous Halos sales wise.
Weren't people bitching that the Xbox One bundles weren't charting on Amazon charts as well? I saw that quite a few times on here.
All-in-all, this is just a clusterfuck. The game is doing well. It might not be old Halo levels, but it's still doing Halo.
Pretty neat attachment rate given.
meanwhile, struggles to be on the top 15 on twitch.
"buh buh twitch is irrelevant" ... another mediocre halo entry through and through. if this was cod it would be mocked.
Yes and shouldn't attachment rate be the definitive metric to measure a games success?
As far as it being mediocre I'm going to have to disagree. It's far from mediocre.
Sales success yes... which every Halo has had... the last view halo's MP scene has been mediocre at best post 3 ...
day 1 sales and what not, mean nothing to online games. but only time will tell in this case... seems more like a "We literally have nothing else..." sort of victory.
I must applaud MS incredible PR. This is Kojima-Troll levels of spin
Anyway the sales must be well over 2Mio units(if we ignore the confusing PR and focus on games alone) WW
We hae physical numbers from the UK, which are approx. 150k and physical numbers from Japan which are 7k
Keep in mind that $500 Halo 5 bundles and the $70 Halo branded controllers are included in those revenue numbers.
Halo 4 generated $300Mio in a week in software sales alone, which suggests that Halo 5 probably sold less than halo 4 software-wise
Pretty neat attachment rate given.
meanwhile, struggles to be on the top 15 on twitch.
"buh buh twitch is irrelevant" ... another mediocre halo entry through and through. if this was cod it would be mocked.
Yes and shouldn't attachment rate be the definitive metric to measure a games success?
As far as it being mediocre I'm going to have to disagree. It's far from mediocre.
Sales success yes... which every Halo has had... the last view halo's MP scene has been mediocre at best post 3 ...
day 1 sales and what not, mean nothing to online games. but only time will tell in this case... seems more like a "We literally have nothing else..." sort of victory.
Agree with most online games but Halo isn't just an online MP game. It's SP is a major focal point as well. I'm one of those that only play the SP part of Halo games. I can't stand playing online games with a controller.
@misterpmedia: Good idea, get on that...it would be your privelage. Also it does disprove what you said, a fanboy does not own a "rival" console. That would go against everything they stand for.
cows talking about PR spin you guys in this thread all need to get hired at some agency.
Theres people here trying to say it hit these numbers because of microtransactions (lol) and elite controllers sales (they only released a limited number of these and they all arent Halo themed)
Even if you include all of this stuff you still lose this one. Cows sure are sore losers. Guys in here screaming, "lies!" lol
BEST. FLOP. EVER.
It includes hardware too, as in console bundles. The Halo bundle is selling for 500 bucks.
Either way it's good for MS, but I think it's a pretty heft decline from previous Halos sales wise.
So, at worst case scenario, lets say the bulk of that $400 million is hardware sales.. that means a ton of people spent $500 on a Halo bundle when Xbox Ones can be bought for as little as $350..
Which means that cows are admitting that Halo 5 is STILL a massive system selling franchise which contradicts all the doom and gloom they've been preaching about the Halo franchise in general since Halo 3..
So the cow spin on the combined software/hardware numbers still doesn't serve their overall cow narrative and the self-ownage in this thread has been absolutely epic.. Keep it up guys lol.. tell us more how you think Halo 5 just pushed over 800,000 consoles in less than a week lol..
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