Halo, Battlefield, TF2 take more skill than Counterstrike.

The only skill in counterstrike is how quick your aim is with the ak47/m4.

In Halo, aiming skill is important, but not enough. You must know how to take someone's shield down with energy weapons/grenades then pull out your rifle. You also need to know how to pilot various vehicles and how to neutralize those vehicles. Same thing in Battlefield. TF2 has a number of different classes, each is unique and useful for a different purpose. Even COD probably takes more skill than counterstrike.

Halo has auto-aim, so no way in hell.

Battlefield has horrible hit detection, but so does TF2 and CSS.

Fast aim, recoil controll, map knowlege, teamwork.

Not to mention all weapons feel entirely different, have different recoil and damage.

Also, camping in CS:S is not a tactic, if you camp, you can get 1 kill (if you're lucky) per round.

And before you scream "AWP" - sniping=/=camping. Being good with the AWP probably takes more skill than the weapons of all those 3 games combined.

Fast aim, recoil controll, map knowlege, teamwork.

Not to mention all weapons feel entirely different, have different recoil and damage.

Also, camping in CS:S is not a tactic, if you camp, you can get 1 kill (if you're lucky) per round.

And before you scream "AWP" - sniping=/=camping. Being good with the AWP probably takes more skill than the weapons of all those 3 games combined.

coreybg

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Fast aim, recoil controll, map knowlege, teamwork.

Not to mention all weapons feel entirely different, have different recoil and damage.

Also, camping in CS:S is not a tactic, if you camp, you can get 1 kill (if you're lucky) per round.

And before you scream "AWP" - sniping=/=camping. Being good with the AWP probably takes more skill than the weapons of all those 3 games combined.

savagetwinkie

And close encounters in Halo aren't random at all.

Anyway, recoil is not hard to manage in CS:S, not 1.5, 1.6.

So, anything else you'd like to add?

May sound weird, but I don't like FPS games where aiming is top priority.
My aiming skills with mouse are never going to be as good as the average person. These few years I played over 1000 hours of FPS online, and still my aiming sucks a lot. I really prefer FPS games where the general idea you have, spotting, positioning and timing are more important than aiming.

Fast aim, recoil controll, map knowlege, teamwork.

Not to mention all weapons feel entirely different, have different recoil and damage.

Also, camping in CS:S is not a tactic, if you camp, you can get 1 kill (if you're lucky) per round.

And before you scream "AWP" - sniping=/=camping. Being good with the AWP probably takes more skill than the weapons of all those 3 games combined.

coreybg

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="coreybg"]

Fast aim, recoil controll, map knowlege, teamwork.

Not to mention all weapons feel entirely different, have different recoil and damage.

Also, camping in CS:S is not a tactic, if you camp, you can get 1 kill (if you're lucky) per round.

And before you scream "AWP" - sniping=/=camping. Being good with the AWP probably takes more skill than the weapons of all those 3 games combined.

coreybg

And close encounters in Halo aren't random at all.

Anyway, recoil is not hard to manage in CS:S, not 1.5, 1.6.

So, anything else you'd like to add?

None of them take SKILL.

They take PRACTICE.

I'm good at all FPS games, but only skilled at the ones I play until I'm better at. Sequels not withstanding, ie I'm skilled at all CoD games because theyhave literally beenthe same game for 4 years now (I'm not including CoD 1 and 2).

quake and ut require more skill than all these games

None of them take SKILL.

They take PRACTICE.

I'm good at all FPS games, but only skilled at the ones I play until I'm better at. Sequels not withstanding, ie I'm skilled at all CoD games because theyhave literally beenthe same game for 4 years now (I'm not including CoD 1 and 2).

kerrman

quake and ut require more skill than all these games

Cranler

Not sure if serious..

[QUOTE="kerrman"]

None of them take SKILL.

They take PRACTICE.

I'm good at all FPS games, but only skilled at the ones I play until I'm better at. Sequels not withstanding, ie I'm skilled at all CoD games because theyhave literally beenthe same game for 4 years now (I'm not including CoD 1 and 2).

Cranler

Well played.

I meant natural skill. lol

really, couldnt just put this in the already ongoing CS thread, you just had to made a new one.

yet another claim this, claim that never ending fiasco.

Halo is the fisher price of FPS.

too cool.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

quake and ut require more skill than all these games

kerrman

Not sure if serious..

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="kerrman"]

None of them take SKILL.

They take PRACTICE.

I'm good at all FPS games, but only skilled at the ones I play until I'm better at. Sequels not withstanding, ie I'm skilled at all CoD games because theyhave literally beenthe same game for 4 years now (I'm not including CoD 1 and 2).

kerrman

Well played.

I meant natural skill. lol

lol halo skill.

None of them take SKILL.

They take PRACTICE.

I'm good at all FPS games, but only skilled at the ones I play until I'm better at. Sequels not withstanding, ie I'm skilled at all CoD games because theyhave literally beenthe same game for 4 years now (I'm not including CoD 1 and 2).

kerrman

Every game takes skills, but this seems to bea matter of what game takes a wide variety of skill sets.

Halo doesn't require too much skill.

Quake 3 requires more skill than all of these

By the Gods.. console gamers are losing their minds! :cry: Please play CSS

Lol no.

TF2 I'm inclined to say takes more skill than CSS due to having to master the vertical axis as well as the arc and velocity of rockets/grenades and other weapons.

The problem i have with console fps is that they make the hitboxes bigger. Otherwise, skill in CS is all about who your playing against. TF2 and Battlefield are how you work with your team. Halo...well auto aim with huge hitboxes and half of the weapons have a large area of damage for weapons anyway, i do enjoy the game though...but saying it takes more skill than CS is just ignorant.

No offense TC but you sound like someone who has played CS for the first time, got absolutely walked on, then posted this on the forums to make CS out to require less skill than games you can probably play.

Halo and TF2 are a joke compared to CS, sorry.

BF is too different.

Halo has auto-aim, so no way in hell.

Battlefield has horrible hit detection, but so does TF2 and CSS.

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Halo has auto-aim, so no way in hell.

Battlefield has horrible hit detection, but so does TF2 and CSS.

SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Halo has auto-aim, so no way in hell.

Battlefield has horrible hit detection, but so does TF2 and CSS.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Halo doesn't have auto aim. GTA IV has auto aim.SaltyMeatballs

Well i used to play CSS pretty seriously back in the day...and even though i barely play consoles or even pc multiplayer fps's anymore and i go play halo, cod, battlefield really basically any fps perhaps maybe quake and own easily after a few games. In comparison these games are simple...and the average quality of the players pales in comparision to CSS.

LOL the best CS players play like aimbots, they can't be touched ... lol Halo ?

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Fast aim, recoil controll, map knowlege, teamwork.

Not to mention all weapons feel entirely different, have different recoil and damage.

Also, camping in CS:S is not a tactic, if you camp, you can get 1 kill (if you're lucky) per round.

And before you scream "AWP" - sniping=/=camping. Being good with the AWP probably takes more skill than the weapons of all those 3 games combined.

savagetwinkie

In Halo, aiming skill is important, but not enough. You must know how to take someone's shield down with energy weapons/grenades then pull out your rifle. You also need to know how to pilot various vehicles and how to neutralize those vehicles. Same thing in Battlefield. TF2 has a number of different classes, each is unique and useful for a different purpose. Even COD probably takes more skill than counterstrike.

spacesheikh

why do people bring up aim assist? its still harder to aim with a controller than a mouse

Halo has auto-aim, so no way in hell.

Battlefield has horrible hit detection, but so does TF2 and CSS.

ChubbyGuy40

When people talk about skil based shooters, they generally refer to the act of shooting, and only shooting.

With Counter Strike, you have nothing but your gun and your wits. No hit markers, no perks, no classes or vehicles.

Personally I love it, but I have to admit that it gets old quick without the variety of other shooters. That's the price you pay for a pure skill shooter I guess, too much content can be hard to manage and keep it fair for all.

skillwise

CS>>>Battlefield~> Tf2>>> halo

When i can jump in and do fine in halo (even against some friends that play way more than me), no way in hell can it take a lot of skill.

TF2 i've played forever and sometimes i still have cold streaks in public servers (sometimes its also my team, but getting started in tf2 without playing the demo class and camping takes time

Battlefield requires teamwork, and i played it without teamwork but it took time to get used to (besides spawncamping)

Counterstrike kills me. It's just insane. No matter how much i play, i cannot win or get a presentable K/D ratio

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I think Halo has aim assist.

_VenomX

Fast aim, recoil controll, map knowlege, teamwork.

Not to mention all weapons feel entirely different, have different recoil and damage.

Also, camping in CS:S is not a tactic, if you camp, you can get 1 kill (if you're lucky) per round.

And before you scream "AWP" - sniping=/=camping. Being good with the AWP probably takes more skill than the weapons of all those 3 games combined.

coreybg

Halo has auto-aim, so no way in hell.

Battlefield has horrible hit detection, but so does TF2 and CSS.

ChubbyGuy40

Halo doesn't require too much skill.

turtlethetaffer

skillwise

CS>>>Battlefield~> Tf2>>> halo

When i can jump in and do fine in halo (even against some friends that play way more than me), no way in hell can it take a lot of skill.

TF2 i've played forever and sometimes i still have cold streaks in public servers (sometimes its also my team, but getting started in tf2 without playing the demo class and camping takes time

Battlefield requires teamwork, and i played it without teamwork but it took time to get used to (besides spawncamping)

Counterstrike kills me. It's just insane. No matter how much i play, i cannot win or get a presentable K/D ratio

bionicle_lover

Really? I think it is:

CSS>>>>Halo>TF2>Battlefield.

You say Halo takes the least amount of skill because you can jump into a game and do good. Well if you have any sort of past FPS experience at all you can jump into any game and do good.

Again I could take your logic and apply it to TF2. I can jump into a TF2 game and do great (even against players that play many more hours than I do), no way in hell it can take a lot of skill.

Battlefield is the same way as TF2 and Halo, I can jump in a do great. However imo the niche skill level (ie top level skill) is much higher in Halo then it is in TF2 or Battlefield. Which is why I see Halo as a more skill-based game.

Counterstike however is in a league of its own. Not sure how one could argue that it takes less skill than those three games.