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YIPPIE :] ;}

http://www.totalxbox.com/73295/features/halo-xbox-one-how-343s-preparing-for-a-spectacular-e3/

" Big things are afoot in Redmond, Washington. Following confirmation that the next Halo will release later this year, 343 Industries is shifting production up a gear with a reshuffle of its core creative team, which has led to a host of internal promotions and new hires"

"With ex-LucasArts and Crystal Dynamics alum Tim Longo recently joining the Halo team as its creative director, former creative director Josh Holmes has taken on the role of Halo 5's executive producer, heading up the internal development team. Holmes is now responsible for "overall project leadership and business ownership," as the man himself explained in a blog post on Halo Waypoint. As for Halo 4's exec producer, Kiki Wolfkill, Holmes assured readers that she was still at 343, "developing exciting new stories, experiences and technologies that will transform the way you experience Halo. She will have more to share at a later date," he continued, "but I can promise that what she is working on is really cool."

"Newly appointed art director Nicolas 'Sparth' Bouview, whose previous credits include the Assassin's Creed franchise as well as RAGE and Prince of Persia, has big plans for the future of the series. Taking over from previous art director and 343 founding member Kenneth Scott, Bouview was lead concept artist for Halo 4 - so already knows his way around the franchise. Scott, however, will still be working remotely on the title as a visual design consultant - in his underwear, he claims, in case you were wondering: "those Skype meetings will get awkward..." Bouview's introduction on Halo Waypoint was accompanied by a sneak peek of a piece of his concept art; "an early exploration of a new location that features prominently in a little game project we're tinkering with..." No prizes for guessing which project 343 is referring to there

Those aren't the only Halo-related hires that have happened over the last few months, however. Joe Staten, Bungie's lead writer and cinematics director, and the man responsible for penning practically every Halo from the 2001 original right up to Halo: Reach in 2010, left Bungie last September. This occurred just as the studio was deep into development on Destiny - on which he was working as a writer and design director."

"So what do we know about the new Halo so far, other than Microsoft expects it to be in our hands by the year's end? Rumours suggest it'll be preceded by a TV series - the one that's being helmed by Hollywood legend Steven Spielberg, no less"

a very good two page article on whats been going on with the new next gen Halo game. what i've quote in here isn't even the bulk of the article. anyone sincerely interested in the game should do themselves a favor and read it for themselves.

besides re-confirming that the game is due for this actual year they also went on to speak about the direction and gameplay aspects they're are trying to implement to this game and franchise. about how they're trying to take it in new directions as well as perfect the Halo formula that it's fans love about the game. who woulda thunk it...a first party team trying something new with one of their games despite it being a familiar franchise. them not just throwing more paint on it to pretend its great even though its still the same old last gen crap...looking at you Sony/Infamous/The Order...etc.

they seem to have acquired the talent, have a plan and ideas, and are progressing forward nicely. E3 is going to be big for Halo fans this year.

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I'll give 343 another chance, but that was always the plan after what I and legions of others found was a disappointing entry with Halo 4. I don't care what shake ups they do, hopefully it results in Halo 5 being the game we wanted with Halo 4. 343 is so new, it's tough to say how things will turn out, but having more horsepower with the Xbone is a good thing. To be clear, Halo 4 was a decent game, but it wasn't the Halo caliber game people expected in both MP and the SP.

The PR press releases are nice and all (I don't care about PR personally as I've said over the years), but the game aka the finished product will speak volumes.

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Halo 2 anniversary this year. They can redeem themselves and use that as an excuse to go back to classic Halo multiplayer once everyone praises it, and not chasing COD perks or killstreaks.

Blam.

Halo 5 could be great.

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Hopefully it'll run above 720p, have actually good gameplay, and actually be 60fps.

A man can dream though...

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Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Sounds similar to what lemmings said about Titanfall for xbox one...lol

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@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Sounds similar to what lemmings said about Titanfall for xbox one...lol

Halo 3 sold 14.5 million, Killzone 2 sold 2.5 million

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this is the part of sw logic where cows will ridicule the most highly rated and consistent quality console 1st person shooter, 3rd person shooter and race franchise.

logic!

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@SolidTy said:

I'll give 343 another chance, but that was always the plan after what I and legions of others found was a disappointing entry with Halo 4. I don't care what shake ups they do, hopefully it results in Halo 5 being the game we wanted with Halo 4. 343 is so new, it's tough to say how things will turn out, but having more horsepower with the Xbone is a good thing. To be clear, Halo 4 was a decent game, but it wasn't the Halo caliber game people expected in both MP and the SP.

The PR press releases are nice and all (I don't care about PR personally as I've said over the years), but the game aka the finished product will speak volumes.

yea, it all remains to be seen. but this article can at least help people be optimistic to a degree. 343 seem to be really into what they're doing, and that's a good sign. they want to make something special. i hope it turns out to be.

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Halo is a certified system seller, that's forsure. with Titanfall and Halo in the same year they really are trying to keep the console selling all year long.

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@tyloss said:

Hopefully it'll run above 720p, have actually good gameplay, and actually be 60fps.

A man can dream though...

This is all but guaranteed, in fact it was guaranteed. No reason to think they won't do everything possible to assure this. Also given the fact that by 2015 Halo 5 will have been in dev for well over 3 years, optimized for a single piece of hardware, I expect it to be 1080p also. If it's 900p though I won't be mad, Titanfall is 792p and it's a blast.

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#11  Edited By Spartan070
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@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Sounds similar to what lemmings said about Titanfall for xbox one...lol

The attach rate will be astronomical.

PS: thread title is misleading...

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@SolidTy said:

I'll give 343 another chance, but that was always the plan after what I and legions of others found was a disappointing entry with Halo 4. I don't care what shake ups they do, hopefully it results in Halo 5 being the game we wanted with Halo 4. 343 is so new, it's tough to say how things will turn out, but having more horsepower with the Xbone is a good thing. To be clear, Halo 4 was a decent game, but it wasn't the Halo caliber game people expected in both MP and the SP.

The PR press releases are nice and all (I don't care about PR personally as I've said over the years), but the game aka the finished product will speak volumes.

no it was beyond halo caliber lol its laughable not to think that halo 4 wasn't a massive upgrade not only in visualsbut action, gameplay, and story over halo 1 and 2 let alone 3 and reach.

People like you were pissed the games story, and gameplay were moving on you wanted more of the same.

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@WilliamRLBaker said:

@SolidTy said:

I'll give 343 another chance, but that was always the plan after what I and legions of others found was a disappointing entry with Halo 4. I don't care what shake ups they do, hopefully it results in Halo 5 being the game we wanted with Halo 4. 343 is so new, it's tough to say how things will turn out, but having more horsepower with the Xbone is a good thing. To be clear, Halo 4 was a decent game, but it wasn't the Halo caliber game people expected in both MP and the SP.

The PR press releases are nice and all (I don't care about PR personally as I've said over the years), but the game aka the finished product will speak volumes.

People like you were pissed the games story, and gameplay were moving on you wanted more of the same.

There were a lot of people like that. Funny thing is new trilogy of novels started releasing about a year ahead of Halo 4, even those who didn't want to red them could have googled' the books to see where they were taking the story, it was all in there, the Didact, the Librarian, all of it.

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Time to join the Sony side Lems.

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#16  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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A reshuffle halfway through development? That's not good. Typical 343i, looks like Halo 5 will be another blunder.

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Would be unsurprising, Xbots are strangely tribalistic towards Halo, even when the franchise is being driven into the Earth.

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The one game I'm sad about missing on XBone.

Halo 5 was the best campaign of the series and the multiplayer wasn't as good as Reach but still awesome and hey, at least they tried something new.

If they deliver another epic campaign and polish up the multiplayer it'll be a must have for sure. Still not buying a Bone for it tho :P

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@Spartan070 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Sounds similar to what lemmings said about Titanfall for xbox one...lol

The attach rate will be astronomical.

PS: thread title is misleading...

sorry about that lol. i was just poking fun at the cows with the title by using their lil chant. i just put Halo in caps to emphasize that its a Halo thread.

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#19  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Halo needs a complete overhaul as a series.

I'm tired of a Halo game that plays like another fucking Halo game. Halo 4's issue was that it half assed trying to be different, instead of going all out and messing with Halo's status quo. The story being dumb doesn't really bother me. You have to be exceptionally stupid to find any of the storylines in the Halo franchise to be anything above horse crap.

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#20  Edited By mems_1224
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@jg4xchamp said:

Halo needs a complete overhaul as a series.

I'm tired of a Halo game that plays like another fucking Halo game. Halo 4's issue was that it half assed trying to be different, instead of going all out and messing with Halo's status quo. The story being dumb doesn't really bother me. You have to be exceptionally stupid to find any of the storylines in the Halo franchise to be anything above horse crap.

All of this. Even as a huge Halo fan who's enjoyed the stories in most of the Halo games Im burnt out on the series. With so many refreshing shooters coming out this year Halo is becoming more irrelevant

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#21  Edited By SolidTy
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@jg4xchamp said:

Halo needs a complete overhaul as a series.

I'm tired of a Halo game that plays like another fucking Halo game. Halo 4's issue was that it half assed trying to be different, instead of going all out and messing with Halo's status quo. The story being dumb doesn't really bother me. You have to be exceptionally stupid to find any of the storylines in the Halo franchise to be anything above horse crap.

That's what I was talking about above, yeah.

I don't have problems with changes to the Halo brand (far from it in fact), I had problems with how those changes were implemented by 343.

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@SolidTy:

As much as we see eye to eye, I disagree on Halo 4 bro. Game rocked. But I am a huge fan of the IP. Books, comics, live action and animated, and games.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

I don't know if Halo 5 will have the install base to do that.

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#24  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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this is the part of sw logic where cows will ridicule the most highly rated and consistent quality console 1st person shooter, 3rd person shooter and race franchise.

logic!

Uncharted has a higher average than Gears of War and comparable sales. Judgment tanked that ranking and Epic has moved on. More people buy Gran Turismo so it must be better than Forza...there ya go. Halo is the king of exclusive shooters, but Bungie has moved on....

Expect Sony exclusives to outsell Xflop's this generation. Killzone being the best-selling launch exclusive was the beginning of a trend that will last all generation with the PS4 has a massive worldwide advantage.

The Last Of Us 2 and Gran Turismo 7 on PS4 vs Halo 5 on Xflop...would you bet your life on Halo 5 selling more?

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Riverwolf007 said:

this is the part of sw logic where cows will ridicule the most highly rated and consistent quality console 1st person shooter, 3rd person shooter and race franchise.

logic!

Uncharted has a higher average than Gears of War and comparable sales. Judgment tanked that ranking and Epic has moved on. More people buy Gran Turismo so it must be better than Forza...there ya go. Halo is the king of exclusive shooters, but Bungie has moved on....

It has higher scores but if you think the gameplay in Uncharted is better than Gears then you are our of your f***ing mind.

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Cow will fill the streets with tears this year following the Microsoft E3 presentation. Cow ass hurt will be at a all time high when the realization occurs that Sony cant compete anymore.

A broke, dying, company will have nothing more than a indie showcase. By then, cows will be begging for Halo, Gears, Forza.

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#27  Edited By Spartan070
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^^^ At least 343industries has a game release and 5ish years under their belt this time around.

I'm sure Halo 5 will at least be more impressive than Halo 4 was overall.

Also Combat Evolved through ODST Bungie vet/legend Joe Staten just left mid-Destiny for 343 to be the project lead for Halo 5, which is great news.

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#28  Edited By SolidTy
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@cainetao11 said:

@SolidTy:

As much as we see eye to eye, I disagree on Halo 4 bro. Game rocked. But I am a huge fan of the IP. Books, comics, live action and animated, and games.

You have me there, I never loved the universe that much. I don't hate it though either it's cool but it also has some nagging issues for me (Far future, aliens, speed of light, spaceships, genetic enhancements... but we still use conventional shotguns, pistols, snipers, and jeeps?). That's a quickie, but I went on and on about it back in the day when Halo and Halo 2 were brand new. I came to terms with it's a game series and the main priority is fun.

I'm really hard on Science Fiction though, even on TV and movies. I was liking Halo for blastin' the aliens to kingdom come since the first game though and the solid LAN and later MP sessions. I tried Eric Nyland stuff, but it wasn't for me. That said, I do own the Halo Xbox's and 360s, and I bought the C.E.s for Halo 2, 3, and Reach.

I am glad to hear though you felt you got your monies worth and dig 343s first run at the main series, that's always a grand feeling. :P

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Cow will fill the streets with tears this year following the Microsoft E3 presentation. Cow ass hurt will be at a all time high when the realization occurs that Sony cant compete anymore.

A broke, dying, company will have nothing more than a indie showcase. By then, cows will be begging for Halo, Gears, Forza.

It's almost guaranteed to be the biggest positive turnaround for a company in a year ever at E3.

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@Spartan070 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Cow will fill the streets with tears this year following the Microsoft E3 presentation. Cow ass hurt will be at a all time high when the realization occurs that Sony cant compete anymore.

A broke, dying, company will have nothing more than a indie showcase. By then, cows will be begging for Halo, Gears, Forza.

It's almost guaranteed to be the biggest positive turnaround for a company in a year ever at E3.


Yeah right. Microsoft will be happy to split the US and while PS4 dominates the rest of the world. Xflop was the loser since February 2013.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Multiplatform titles and otherwise?

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#32  Edited By Spartan070
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@Spartan070 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Cow will fill the streets with tears this year following the Microsoft E3 presentation.

It's almost guaranteed to be the biggest positive turnaround for a company in a year ever at E3.

Yeah right. Microsoft will be happy to split the US and while PS4 dominates the rest of the world. Xflop was the loser since February 2013.

So you think this years' E3 for MS wil be as bad as last years? It HAS to be better by default lol.

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@Riverwolf007 said:

this is the part of sw logic where cows will ridicule the most highly rated and consistent quality console 1st person shooter, 3rd person shooter and race franchise.

logic!

this is the part where we forget that Gears of War Judgment exists, forgive the Call of Duty of racers for removing more and more content with each new installment, and praise the lastest Halo games for still being a part of the franchise when even diehard fans agree the last good one was 3.

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@SolidTy:

Yeah its all subjective. I'm just on board the Halo train I guess. Too bad you weren't into the Nylund stuff, it explains the travel and ballistic weapons. Humans never needed to upgrade their weapons because they have only ever fought humans, until the covenant. But, since they reverse engineered the energy shielding from dead Elite's armor, you would think they would do the same for the weaponry. One of the many points myself and other Halo nerds point out when we talk about it. But overall we love it.

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@cainetao11 said:

@SolidTy:

Yeah its all subjective. I'm just on board the Halo train I guess. Too bad you weren't into the Nylund stuff, it explains the travel and ballistic weapons. Humans never needed to upgrade their weapons because they have only ever fought humans, until the covenant. But, since they reverse engineered the energy shielding from dead Elite's armor, you would think they would do the same for the weaponry. One of the many points myself and other Halo nerds point out when we talk about it. But overall we love it.

the original books were simply amazing. Of course, I can also appreciate Karen's work too, though maybe it's because I got into her Gears books. Honestly the only ones I read that I probably didn't like very much are Contact Harvest and The Cole Protocol.

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@Spartan070 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:
@Spartan070 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Cow will fill the streets with tears this year following the Microsoft E3 presentation.

It's almost guaranteed to be the biggest positive turnaround for a company in a year ever at E3.

Yeah right. Microsoft will be happy to split the US and while PS4 dominates the rest of the world. Xflop was the loser since February 2013.

So you think this years' E3 for MS wil be as bad as last years? It HAS to be bOh etter by default lol.

Microsoft will definitely have a better E3 than last year, but I don't think it will matter because:

1. Xbox has virtually no footprint outside the US, UK

2. Xbox One no chance of controlling those two markets the way the 360 did

Basically it would take some kind of monumental screw-up by Sony(PS3 launch level which is almost impossible now) for Xbox One to compete on a global scale.

I still see the PS4 outselling Xflop by close to 2-1 on a global scale no matter what Microsoft does games wise. I would have said 3-1, but unfortunately the US market looks like it will save it from complete failure.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Riverwolf007 said:

this is the part of sw logic where cows will ridicule the most highly rated and consistent quality console 1st person shooter, 3rd person shooter and race franchise.

logic!

Uncharted has a higher average than Gears of War and comparable sales. Judgment tanked that ranking and Epic has moved on. More people buy Gran Turismo so it must be better than Forza...there ya go. Halo is the king of exclusive shooters, but Bungie has moved on....

Expect Sony exclusives to outsell Xflop's this generation. Killzone being the best-selling launch exclusive was the beginning of a trend that will last all generation with the PS4 has a massive worldwide advantage.

The Last Of Us 2 and Gran Turismo 7 on PS4 vs Halo 5 on Xflop...would you bet your life on Halo 5 selling more?

The only one that actually has a good chance to beat the next halo game in sales is GT7, but the last two GT games damaged the consumer's trust in the franchise.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Spartan070 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:
@Spartan070 said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Cow will fill the streets with tears this year following the Microsoft E3 presentation.

It's almost guaranteed to be the biggest positive turnaround for a company in a year ever at E3.

Yeah right. Microsoft will be happy to split the US and while PS4 dominates the rest of the world. Xflop was the loser since February 2013.

So you think this years' E3 for MS wil be as bad as last years? It HAS to be bOh etter by default lol.

Microsoft will definitely have a better E3 than last year, but I don't think it will matter because:

1. Xbox has virtually no footprint outside the US, UK

2. Xbox One no chance of controlling those two markets the way the 360 did

Basically it would take some kind of monumental screw-up by Sony(PS3 launch level which is almost impossible now) for Xbox One to compete on a global scale.

I still see the PS4 outselling Xflop by close to 2-1 on a global scale no matter what Microsoft does games wise. I would have said 3-1, but unfortunately the US market looks like it will save it from complete failure.

I'm honestly not seeing where MIcrosoft had a bad E3. Yeah, they lost and it's because they had crap policies and unwillingness to talk about them until after Sony won everyone over with their conference, but they did actually show core games and other stuff. Bad would've been another cringe-worthy showing like their e3 2011 and 2012 conferences that were 95% Kinect garbage each.

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I don't think most of you are appreciating how Bungie themselves might be stealing the thunder away from their own former franchise.

I'm sure Halo 5 will be a fine game in of itself, but considering that it will be competing directly with Destiny, and less directly with a billion other multiplayer shooters out there, Halo's future relevance is... questionable. Unless they do a major overhaul, which could go horribly wrong just as easily as it could go right.

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@handssss said:

@cainetao11 said:

@SolidTy:

Yeah its all subjective. I'm just on board the Halo train I guess. Too bad you weren't into the Nylund stuff, it explains the travel and ballistic weapons. Humans never needed to upgrade their weapons because they have only ever fought humans, until the covenant. But, since they reverse engineered the energy shielding from dead Elite's armor, you would think they would do the same for the weaponry. One of the many points myself and other Halo nerds point out when we talk about it. But overall we love it.

the original books were simply amazing. Of course, I can also appreciate Karen's work too, though maybe it's because I got into her Gears books. Honestly the only ones I read that I probably didn't like very much are Contact Harvest and The Cole Protocol.

Yeah I loved Traviss' Gears books. Got my first one from a friend when I was laid up in the barracks after surgery. Really helped pass the time. I liked Contact Harvest, but Nylunds were the best imo. I still have to read Cole Protocol, Traviss' Halo books and the Forerunner saga. Im reading the Witcher novels right now, and they are great. Only Halo I really didn't care for was the Flood by Dietz. Just play the 1st game imo.

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#41  Edited By handssss
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@PraetorianMan said:

I don't think most of you are appreciating how Bungie themselves might be stealing the thunder away from their own former franchise.

I'm sure Halo 5 will be a fine game in of itself, but considering that it will be competing directly with Destiny, and less directly with a billion other multiplayer shooters out there, Halo's future relevance is... questionable. Unless they do a major overhaul, which could go horribly wrong just as easily as it could go right.

it's fine and dandy they want to make more Halo games, but they need to do some changes yeah.

First off, do NOT just throw major characters from the books in peoples' faces and hardly explain who they are. (terminal videos don't count)

It was laughably pathetic how 4 introduced the Didact and Librarian.

Second, STOP trying to Codify the MP. Halo 2 and 3 are the highpoint of the franchise and since then, they are shoving these spawn abilities and killstreaks and screwing around with weapon spawns (Plasma pistol on spawn in a BTB match w/ vechicles is stupid)

there's more, but I'm honestly not the biggest Halo games fan, so I can't see all the problems. Will say though the campaign for 4 was also kinda lackluster since on one hand, it was annoying to be told this was a new adventure only to encounter all the old covenant enemies again for a good chunk of the game. On the other hand, they are the only fun enemies. The forerunner robots were just... dull.

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@super600 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@Riverwolf007 said:

this is the part of sw logic where cows will ridicule the most highly rated and consistent quality console 1st person shooter, 3rd person shooter and race franchise.

logic!

Uncharted has a higher average than Gears of War and comparable sales. Judgment tanked that ranking and Epic has moved on. More people buy Gran Turismo so it must be better than Forza...there ya go. Halo is the king of exclusive shooters, but Bungie has moved on....

Expect Sony exclusives to outsell Xflop's this generation. Killzone being the best-selling launch exclusive was the beginning of a trend that will last all generation with the PS4 has a massive worldwide advantage.

The Last Of Us 2 and Gran Turismo 7 on PS4 vs Halo 5 on Xflop...would you bet your life on Halo 5 selling more?

The only one that actually has a good chance to beat the next halo game in sales is GT7, but the last two GT games damaged the consumer's trust in the franchise.

The Last of Us has sold over 6 million in less than year while Halo 4 is around 8.5 million(very front-loaded sales a major drop-off from Halo 3) after 2 years. I think Uncharted, Gran Turismo or The Last Of Us could outsell Halo depending on how much larger the PS4 user base is compared to Xbox One when those game release. Halo will probably always have a higher attach rate than any Sony exclusive except maybe Gran Turismo.

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@cainetao11 said:

@handssss said:

@cainetao11 said:

@SolidTy:

Yeah its all subjective. I'm just on board the Halo train I guess. Too bad you weren't into the Nylund stuff, it explains the travel and ballistic weapons. Humans never needed to upgrade their weapons because they have only ever fought humans, until the covenant. But, since they reverse engineered the energy shielding from dead Elite's armor, you would think they would do the same for the weaponry. One of the many points myself and other Halo nerds point out when we talk about it. But overall we love it.

the original books were simply amazing. Of course, I can also appreciate Karen's work too, though maybe it's because I got into her Gears books. Honestly the only ones I read that I probably didn't like very much are Contact Harvest and The Cole Protocol.

Yeah I loved Traviss' Gears books. Got my first one from a friend when I was laid up in the barracks after surgery. Really helped pass the time. I liked Contact Harvest, but Nylunds were the best imo. I still have to read Cole Protocol, Traviss' Halo books and the Forerunner saga. Im reading the Witcher novels right now, and they are great. Only Halo I really didn't care for was the Flood by Dietz. Just play the 1st game imo.

I own all of the Halo printed media save the graphic novel and my single favorite story in the lot is "The Impossible Life and the Possible Death of Preston J. Cole"from Halo Evolutions, the collection of short stories. It's about a 100 pages but it's brilliant.

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@Spartan070:

No doubt. I forgot Evolutions 2 I need to read also. Headhunters was my favorite from evolutions.

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@cainetao11 said:

@Spartan070:

No doubt. I forgot Evolutions 2 I need to read also. Headhunters was my favorite from evolutions.

Evolutions II is just half the stories from Evolutions, seriously. If you have [pictured above] then you're good.

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@Spartan070 said:

@cainetao11 said:

@Spartan070:

No doubt. I forgot Evolutions 2 I need to read also. Headhunters was my favorite from evolutions.

Evolutions II is just half the stories from Evolutions, seriously. If you have [pictured above] then you're good.

Wow that blows. Are the new stories any good?

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@super600 said:

@StrongBlackVine said:

@Riverwolf007 said:

this is the part of sw logic where cows will ridicule the most highly rated and consistent quality console 1st person shooter, 3rd person shooter and race franchise.

logic!

Uncharted has a higher average than Gears of War and comparable sales. Judgment tanked that ranking and Epic has moved on. More people buy Gran Turismo so it must be better than Forza...there ya go. Halo is the king of exclusive shooters, but Bungie has moved on....

Expect Sony exclusives to outsell Xflop's this generation. Killzone being the best-selling launch exclusive was the beginning of a trend that will last all generation with the PS4 has a massive worldwide advantage.

The Last Of Us 2 and Gran Turismo 7 on PS4 vs Halo 5 on Xflop...would you bet your life on Halo 5 selling more?

The only one that actually has a good chance to beat the next halo game in sales is GT7, but the last two GT games damaged the consumer's trust in the franchise.

The Last of Us has sold over 6 million in less than year while Halo 4 is around 8.5 million(very front-loaded sales a major drop-off from Halo 3) after 2 years. I think Uncharted, Gran Turismo or The Last Of Us could outsell Halo depending on how much larger the PS4 user base is compared to Xbox One when those game release. Halo will probably always have a higher attach rate than any Sony exclusive except maybe Gran Turismo.

I could see that happening, but not for GT7 unless it's a massive improvement over the previous two games and if sony doesn't try to screw over loyal gt fans again.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Sounds similar to what lemmings said about Titanfall for xbox one...lol

Halo 3 sold 14.5 million, Killzone 2 sold 2.5 million

Why don't you compare Halo 3 to Gran Turismo 3 or Gran Turismo 5?

Halo is MS' flagship franchise, and one of only 3 exclusive franchises. Killzone is a dime a dozen among Sony exclusive franchises and not even in the top 10.

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@Mozelleple112 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@kinectthedots said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Halo will outsell everything that PS4 has to offer.

Sounds similar to what lemmings said about Titanfall for xbox one...lol

Halo 3 sold 14.5 million, Killzone 2 sold 2.5 million

Why don't you compare Halo 3 to Gran Turismo 3 or Gran Turismo 5?

Halo is MS' flagship franchise, and one of only 3 exclusive franchises. Killzone is a dime a dozen among Sony exclusive franchises and not even in the top 10.

Really? Gran Turismo 3? It was on PS2.

Second, Gran Turismo 5 sold less than Halo 3.

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LOL Halo!

The real superior version of Halo is on PS4, it's called Destiny.