Halo Infinite graphics are not 'top-tier visuals' says insider

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#51 Moistcarrot
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Making it run on xbox one is gonna hold the game back as I predicted.

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#52 deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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@moistcarrot: 'Making it run on xbox one is gonna hold the game back as I predicted.'

It began development over 5 years ago. It's meant to be a last gen title, similar to Cyberpunk. As long as they include some ray tracing and better lighting for the next gen version, it should look decent.

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#53 SecretPolice
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So then, GOAT for both visuals and game-play on lock, thanks MS, for the gamerz.... Jazz. :P

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#54 Moistcarrot
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@moistcarrot: 'Making it run on xbox one is gonna hold the game back as I predicted.'

It began development over 5 years ago. It's meant to be a last gen title, similar to Cyberpunk. As long as they include some ray tracing and better lighting for the next gen version, it should look decent.

Yeah I wouldn't say it's going to be an ugly looking game, just not quite as amazing as it was hyped up to be given it was meant to be a series x system seller and on a brand new engine.

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#55 regnaston
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wait now Sony fans trust Colteastwood? And since when is he an "insider"?

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#56  Edited By lamprey263
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This insider just an anonymous user with a ResetEra or NeoGAF account? Such a low bar for what it takes to be an industry insider this last decade. Any cow here could have said as much.

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#57 Fedor
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A 4k/60 FPS semi open world game was never going to be a graphics king.

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#58 tdkmillsy
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Its a cross gen game that's a lot more than graphics.

I'd be happy to play it on my One X.

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#59 DaVillain  Moderator
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Gameplay for Halo: Infinite is all I care about cause that's the root of Halo games.

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#60 Antwan3K
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i'm honestly not concerned about "top tier graphics" (whatever that means) for this title.. fix the graphical glitches from the demo, add ray tracing, nail the gameplay, and nail the story.. present a full and polished package on launch day..

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#61  Edited By deactivated-611edca0d6021
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Well, obviously. MS don't have talent and they have to account for the objectively INFERIOR Xbox One, which runs the worst version of all games 🤭.

And the damage control ITT: "it was never about the graphics".

Sure, that's not the real reason why they postponed the game after the numerous memes last year. 🤣

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#62 daredevils2k
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“Bu , bu, but halo was never about graphics “ yah right give me a break. Are lems trying to say that halo has always been the ugliest FPS ever created ?

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@daredevils2k said:

“Bu , bu, but halo was never about graphics “ yah right give me a break. Are lems trying to say that halo has always been the ugliest FPS ever created ?

No, they're just saying they never expected a game that is going to be open world and running on 9 year old hardware to be top tier graphicswise.

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@gym_lion said:
@daredevils2k said:

“Bu , bu, but halo was never about graphics “ yah right give me a break. Are lems trying to say that halo has always been the ugliest FPS ever created ?

No, they're just saying they never expected a game that is going to be open world and running on 9 year old hardware to be top tier graphicswise.

Its semi open world, not actual open world. But what about the likes of Spiderman, GoT, Horizon, etc? All of these are true open world games, running on 9y old hardware (og ps4) and all looking great. Hell, they are not only great looking, all three of them are the best looking titles on the system. What's the excuse for that?

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#65  Edited By Zero_epyon
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We kind of knew that since last year lol

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@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:
@daredevils2k said:

“Bu , bu, but halo was never about graphics “ yah right give me a break. Are lems trying to say that halo has always been the ugliest FPS ever created ?

No, they're just saying they never expected a game that is going to be open world and running on 9 year old hardware to be top tier graphicswise.

Its semi open world, not actual open world. But what about the likes of Spiderman, GoT, Horizon, etc? All of these are true open world games, running on 9y old hardware (og ps4) and all looking great. Hell, they are not only great looking, all three of them are the best looking titles on the system. What's the excuse for that?

What's the point of discussing it with you? You can't stand it.

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Will it have splitscreen this time?

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#68 hardwenzen
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@gym_lion said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:
@daredevils2k said:

“Bu , bu, but halo was never about graphics “ yah right give me a break. Are lems trying to say that halo has always been the ugliest FPS ever created ?

No, they're just saying they never expected a game that is going to be open world and running on 9 year old hardware to be top tier graphicswise.

Its semi open world, not actual open world. But what about the likes of Spiderman, GoT, Horizon, etc? All of these are true open world games, running on 9y old hardware (og ps4) and all looking great. Hell, they are not only great looking, all three of them are the best looking titles on the system. What's the excuse for that?

What's the point of discussing it with you? You can't stand it.

"you can't stand it" as in i can't stand the game? i planned on playing it even if it stayed as it was shown in the demo. I bitch about it because i want it to be better, much better. It has been a very long time since i cared about Halo, and ODST, Reach, H4, H5 and now Infinite are the reasons. Make a damn game that is on par with the trilogy.

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@hardwenzen said:

"you can't stand it" as in i can't stand the game? i planned on playing it even if it stayed as it was shown in the demo. I bitch about it because i want it to be better, much better. It has been a very long time since i cared about Halo, and ODST, Reach, H4, H5 and now Infinite are the reasons. Make a damn game that is on par with the trilogy.

Passion for Halo I see. 😈

What you should be more concerned about is the gameplay rather than graphics. 343 has demonstrated that they can make a pretty game. Now whether they can make a Halo game that is not followed by regrets after playing is a different story.

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#70  Edited By Gym_Lion
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@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gym_lion said:
@daredevils2k said:

“Bu , bu, but halo was never about graphics “ yah right give me a break. Are lems trying to say that halo has always been the ugliest FPS ever created ?

No, they're just saying they never expected a game that is going to be open world and running on 9 year old hardware to be top tier graphicswise.

Its semi open world, not actual open world. But what about the likes of Spiderman, GoT, Horizon, etc? All of these are true open world games, running on 9y old hardware (og ps4) and all looking great. Hell, they are not only great looking, all three of them are the best looking titles on the system. What's the excuse for that?

What's the point of discussing it with you? You can't stand it.

"you can't stand it" as in i can't stand the game? i planned on playing it even if it stayed as it was shown in the demo. I bitch about it because i want it to be better, much better. It has been a very long time since i cared about Halo, and ODST, Reach, H4, H5 and now Infinite are the reasons. Make a damn game that is on par with the trilogy.

Fair point. Long time since I've cared as well.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

"you can't stand it" as in i can't stand the game? i planned on playing it even if it stayed as it was shown in the demo. I bitch about it because i want it to be better, much better. It has been a very long time since i cared about Halo, and ODST, Reach, H4, H5 and now Infinite are the reasons. Make a damn game that is on par with the trilogy.

Passion for Halo I see. 😈

What you should be more concerned about is the gameplay rather than graphics. 343 has demonstrated that they can make a pretty game. Now whether they can make a Halo game that is not followed by regrets after playing is a different story.

Believe it or not, but it used to be my fav franchise (back in H1 and H2 days).

The gameplay didn't look bad, but it did look very dated. I simply expect more, especially from such a massive franchise. And after seeing a bit of the story, plus coming from the omega mediocre H5 story, its just looking shitty to me. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PILOT AND HIS FAMILY DRAMA SHYTE. God dammit 343i doesn't get it.

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@gym_lion said:
@daredevils2k said:

“Bu , bu, but halo was never about graphics “ yah right give me a break. Are lems trying to say that halo has always been the ugliest FPS ever created ?

No, they're just saying they never expected a game that is going to be open world and running on 9 year old hardware to be top tier graphicswise.

So basicaly Lems gave up hope on having graphically impressive game and just excepted the meh graphics. Oh well, glad Sony never give up and gave us cows HZD series and Spiderman

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#73  Edited By dabear
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@theam0g: This is the exact same sh*t I have read since Halo 2...

No Halo game has been a graphical showcase. Ever. It's always been about the gameplay and online. Halo 2 was fugly, for Christ's sake (bad character design, pop-ins, etc).

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@hardwenzen said:

It won't be just visuals that suck, but other things as well. Static environment like a game from 2009. Robotic animations like it was made by Nintendo. Outdated facial expressions from 2005. No destruction/poor physics on par with Halo 2.

Microsoft flagship with an additional year of development btw.

And for those saying that Halo was never about visuals, you're spreading fake news. Halo 1 looked amazing for its time. Halo 2 looked as impressive. Halo Reach was one of the better looking titles on the 360. Halo 4 might be the best looking game on the 360. So what the **** are people talking about? Just because Infinite looks like trash, doesn't mean we'll be damage controlling its ancient visuals and their shitty engine with "Halo was never about graphics". Once upon a time, Halo offered the whole mother********* package, and that's when the series was godly. Those times are gone.

LOL

Halo 2 had a ton of pop-ins, ugly character models (the blocky gravemind?) and muddy textures. No one is saying that Halo games looked like sh*t, but they aren't the showcase games for XBox based on the graphics; and they never have been.

Gamespot's Halo 2 review:

" Also, though the game's visuals were terrific in the heat of battle, Halo's cinematic cutscenes using the game's 3D engine left a lot to be desired--they looked decidedly rough when compared with the rest of the game. These shortcomings rear their heads again in Halo 2, at least during the game's campaign. Some of the in-engine cutscenes are kind of ugly, though they're much better than those of the original."

The Good

  • Some of the best first-person shooter gameplay in the business.
  • Outstanding multiplayer features--tons of fun modes and customization options.
  • Incredible audio--music and sound effects both major highlights.
  • Impressive artificial intelligence.
  • Co-op mode tons of fun.

The Bad

  • Disappointing story.
  • Short campaign.
  • Some unsightly graphical issues.
  • No co-op online.

You, sir, are spreading the FUD here.

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#76 firedrakes
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online game play games like halo,bf,cod etc tend to look less as good as single player side. so nothing new here.

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@girlusocrazy said:

@dabear: That's rewriting history, Halo 1 & 2 were absolutely touted as graphical showcases on consoles at the time. Looking back it might be hard to see why because we take so many of the things it did for granted now. Taken in context at the time, the LOD systems, texturing, detail maps, your flashlight, bloom lighting, crepuscular rays, bump mapping, specular highlights, open spaces, skyboxes, all of that was setting a new bar. But if you don't believe me (or actual history) then maybe look at DigitalFoundry's take.

Again - go look up Halo 2's GS review (I linked it in another reply). Or, how about Gamespot's take on the Halo series as a whole in their Halo 3 review?

I quote:

"Halo has always had a very strong artistic vision, and the graphics have always been just good enough to convey the necessary imagery without becoming huge technical powerhouses. That's not to say that the game isn't technically impressive, because it maintains a smooth frame rate throughout, and looks very sharp overall with plenty of great lighting and other nice effects. But the visual design overpowers its technical side and really stands out. Given that the game takes place in a wider range of locales than the previous two games, you'll see a lot of different, colorful environments, including deserts, snow, jungle settings, great-looking building interiors, and more. The enemies, many of which are returning from past games, also look great."

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They should just release the damn game. Halo players like me don't care about the graphical aspect of Halo titles.

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@dabear said:

@theam0g: This is the exact same sh*t I have read since Halo 2...

No Halo game has been a graphical showcase. Ever. It's always been about the gameplay and online. Halo 2 was fugly, for Christ's sake (bad character design, pop-ins, etc).

That is not true, Halo 4 and 5 are great looking games. The best the series has ever looked. They were top of the their game visually. Halo Infinite is not on that level but then again, Halo Infinite is not as contained as 4 and 5.

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#81  Edited By hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

It won't be just visuals that suck, but other things as well. Static environment like a game from 2009. Robotic animations like it was made by Nintendo. Outdated facial expressions from 2005. No destruction/poor physics on par with Halo 2.

Microsoft flagship with an additional year of development btw.

And for those saying that Halo was never about visuals, you're spreading fake news. Halo 1 looked amazing for its time. Halo 2 looked as impressive. Halo Reach was one of the better looking titles on the 360. Halo 4 might be the best looking game on the 360. So what the **** are people talking about? Just because Infinite looks like trash, doesn't mean we'll be damage controlling its ancient visuals and their shitty engine with "Halo was never about graphics". Once upon a time, Halo offered the whole mother********* package, and that's when the series was godly. Those times are gone.

LOL

Halo 2 had a ton of pop-ins, ugly character models (the blocky gravemind?) and muddy textures. No one is saying that Halo games looked like sh*t, but they aren't the showcase games for XBox based on the graphics; and they never have been.

Gamespot's Halo 2 review:

" Also, though the game's visuals were terrific in the heat of battle, Halo's cinematic cutscenes using the game's 3D engine left a lot to be desired--they looked decidedly rough when compared with the rest of the game. These shortcomings rear their heads again in Halo 2, at least during the game's campaign. Some of the in-engine cutscenes are kind of ugly, though they're much better than those of the original."

The Good

  • Some of the best first-person shooter gameplay in the business.
  • Outstanding multiplayer features--tons of fun modes and customization options.
  • Incredible audio--music and sound effects both major highlights.
  • Impressive artificial intelligence.
  • Co-op mode tons of fun.

The Bad

  • Disappointing story.
  • Short campaign.
  • Some unsightly graphical issues.
  • No co-op online.

You, sir, are spreading the FUD here.

Some graphical issues such as pop ins doesn't make it an average looking game. Ratchet has pop ins as stated in most reviews, and its still an amazing looking game. It was one of the best looking titles of the system, only surpassed by the likes of NG, Chaos Theory, etc. And lets not stop at Halo 2. Reach and especially Halo 4 (and Halo CE as well) looked even more impressive, so no point of BSing around with your "Halo was never about the visuals". No, halo was never ONLY about the visuals, but it had em, like a proper video would. Right now, the visuals in Infinite is a nice meme. A joke. An indie level of🤢. New engine, 6 years in the making and a massive budget didn't help very much🤣

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@Pedro said:
@dabear said:

@theam0g: This is the exact same sh*t I have read since Halo 2...

No Halo game has been a graphical showcase. Ever. It's always been about the gameplay and online. Halo 2 was fugly, for Christ's sake (bad character design, pop-ins, etc).

That is not true, Halo 4 and 5 are great looking games. The best the series has ever looked. They were top of the their game visually. Halo Infinite is not on that level but then again, Halo Infinite is not as contained as 4 and 5.

Yeah, Halo 5 is probably a top 10 looking game for gen 8. It's sexy. Been too long since I played Halo 4 to remember.

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@girlusocrazy: "That's rewriting history, Halo 1 & 2 were absolutely touted as graphical showcases on consoles at the time."

The Lems are in sheer damage control mode because they expected halo to show de power of Xbox SX but it'll turn out as another mediocre game. 🤭

"It's not about graphics." LMAO we all know that if the game was a showcase, they'd all be championing it. It's pure damage control and coming from the usual crowd it's specially hilarious. 🤣

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#84  Edited By deactivated-67913f01c3174
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Looks like the cows are in full defense mode here, jesus, lol!

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I see pron boi is becoming more active here.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Ah so NOW it's okay to use Coalteastwood. He is the "insider". Did no one click the link?

So when I used him once before I knew who he was, it was LOL. But now no ones mentioning it.

THANK YOU!!!

Using a goofball youtuber as an “insider” is incredibly irresponsible but all publications that ran with this. (Yes, theres more than 1)

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If the game is good, graphics don't have to be top tier ... as long as they don't look like early PS3 games which it the way it looked at first, i'm fine with it.

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@Antwan3K said:

i'm honestly not concerned about "top tier graphics" (whatever that means) for this title.. fix the graphical glitches from the demo, add ray tracing, nail the gameplay, and nail the story.. present a full and polished package on launch day..

Ask Colt what that means on Twitter. You love that guy!

I’m sure he doesn’t actually know. Colt stopped being an “insider” when Yabarra and those guys stopped appearing on RDX. And content has been real thin for those guys lately. They spend more time bashing PS5 than talking about Xbox. Dealer might have to change the name...

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I'm getting my pop corn ready for all the new Halo memes. I have complete trust in MS to screw the pooch again with Infinite.

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#91 Gym_Lion
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@girlusocrazy said:

@wonderwinner: Lems are showing some serious stockholm syndrome defending this effort

Just being realistic I guess. We all see the original trailer. No doubt it's going to look better than that but I doubt it's going to blow anyone away. Shame it's cross gen.

As long as it run at a steady 60 (or120) I'll play it.

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#92  Edited By dabear
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@Pedro, @hardwenzen, @x_hedon,

The fact of the matter is that Halo's graphics have been good, but not a defining feature of the game. Gamespot has pretty much always said that. So, this "insider" pretty much just regurgitated what most review sites have said about every Halo game.

Personally, I thought Halo 2 was kinda ugly.

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#93 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

@Pedro, @hardwenzen, @x_hedon,

The fact of the matter is that Halo's graphics have been good, but not a defining feature of the game. Gamespot has pretty much always said that. So, this "insider" pretty much just regurgitated what most review sites have said about every Halo game.

Personally, I thought Halo 2 was kinda ugly.

You could find its art style being ugly, especially when compared to Halo CE. Or you had a pc and had a access to the likes of FEAR and HL2, which of course look much better, but for console standards, Halo 2 was one of the better ones around.

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#94 dabear
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@wonderwinner said:

@girlusocrazy: "That's rewriting history, Halo 1 & 2 were absolutely touted as graphical showcases on consoles at the time."

The Lems are in sheer damage control mode because they expected halo to show de power of Xbox SX but it'll turn out as another mediocre game. 🤭

"It's not about graphics." LMAO we all know that if the game was a showcase, they'd all be championing it. It's pure damage control and coming from the usual crowd it's specially hilarious. 🤣

Go read Gamespot's reviews of Halo 2 and 3 and get back to me. I even provided the links.

Do some research before you self own like this...

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#96 ZELDABOTW2
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I would be surprised if they where top consider when they showed it last year it looked like a Xbox 360 game lol. Yeah they might have gotten better sense then but I don't think they are going to go from way behind in graphics to around the best. If they are just ok looking it would be a big step up from what was shown last year.

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#97  Edited By deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@dabear: "Do some research before you self own like this..."

More like lems are being owned everywhere because they kept claiming xsx were the better more powerful console and yet their first flagship title will be fugly lmao.

Halo was a technical showcase for the power of the consoles back in the day and no amount of spinning will change that.

And again, if this game aced in the graphics department, y'all would be championing it. All of this is pure damage control.

I'm certainly glad I'm not stuck with the Turd box consoles, all and all, if anything, if I end up playing Halo Infinite it'll be on PC with mods that enhance the original objectively INFERIOR graphics.

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#98 Pedro
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@dabear: Damn! You triggered him good.😂

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#99 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@zeldabotw2 said:

I would be surprised if they where top consider when they showed it last year it looked like a Xbox 360 game lol. Yeah they might have gotten better sense then but I don't think they are going to go from way behind in graphics to around the best. If they are just ok looking it would be a big step up from what was shown last year.

Actually it looked great last year, even though it was in alpha form and didn't have the majority of the assets ready. But the still shots of a couple areas that were zoomed in on didn't look that good. Glad they were still working on it.

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#100 Antwan3K
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@goldenelementxl: I don't think anyone has mentioned "Colt", "Dealer", or "RDX" on this forum more than you..