Halo is over, now its Killzones turn to dominate the FPS world

Yeah, I know the first one wasn't that hot. That doesn't mean it'll be the same case with the second one. Street Fighter 1 was almost unknown in the gaming world. When Street Fighter 2 came, it was known as one of the greatest fighting games of its time. The reason why is because it improved on so many things over the 1st one. Sony has been quiet about this game for 2 whole years, not a single screenshot has been shown. Because Sony is so tightlipped about the game, I firmly believe it canactually surpass the trailer. If 360 can pull off Gears in its 2nd generation, PS3, which is more powerful hardware can certainly pull of the visuals from e305. I know someone will probably bring up Motorstorm right? But the thing is that Motorstorm was shown less than a year after e305, killzone on the other hand hasn't shown as much as a screenshot. Therefore, Killzone has had so much more dev time than Motorstorm it isn't funny. Also guys, remember that all PS3 games so far have only used RSX for graphics, and not even much of its power. When PS3 uses Cell +RSX for visuals, we'll see more than what PS3 can do. I know the first Lem that comes in here will mock me and say"teh Cell" and crap like that, but its the truth guys. All systems improve visually over time, 360 still has plenty of room for improvement, AND ITS THE EASIER SYSTEM TO DEVELOP FOR. PS3 is the hard system to develop for, so theres plenty more room for improvement in PS3's case. The funny thing is that PS3 is keeping up with 360 in spite of this. hmmm. discuss.

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

Killzone has to pull itself out of the realm of suck to do that.Michael85

Its a strong possibility it will do that, Sony plans to release it this year alongside Halo 3. The game must be awesome for them to take a risk like that. It seems they have a lot of confidence in the game. Trust me, the game will rock the FPS world.

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

Bill_McBlumpkin

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

metroidfood

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

Bill_McBlumpkin

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

gogeta242

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

[QUOTE="Michael85"]Killzone has to pull itself out of the realm of suck to do that.gogeta242

Its a strong possibility it will do that, Sony plans to release it this year alongside Halo 3. The game must be awesome for them to take a risk like that. It seems they have a lot of confidence in the game. Trust me, the game will rock the FPS world.

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

metroidfood

Killzone doesn't have to kill Halo, Halo will be over this fall. :cry:

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

gogeta242

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

But it's all hype. Despite them being tight-lipped, you still don't know how good it is, and you're just jumping to conclusions.

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

gogeta242

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

Killzone has to get through Half-Life and Call of Duty first.
For Killzone, that would be like taking on a Challenger 2 with an AK-47.Doom_HellKnight

Killzone hasn't even made it past freakin' Turok yet, let alone those shooters.

And I'm talking the most recent Turok, not the great ones on the N64.

[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

Doom_HellKnight

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

Yeah, hahaha.

Listen - jumping is obviously "last gen," just like rumble. This generation it's all about running around a 4D space and not being able to jump over a 12 inch high obstacle.

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]

[QUOTE="Michael85"]Killzone has to pull itself out of the realm of suck to do that._S0LID_SNAKE_

Its a strong possibility it will do that, Sony plans to release it this year alongside Halo 3. The game must be awesome for them to take a risk like that. It seems they have a lot of confidence in the game. Trust me, the game will rock the FPS world.

So Halo is/will be the only good FPS out there, people move on you know. Halo was unknown until it blew up and got known. Now that its over, some FPS has to take its place. :|If Killzone improves over Halo, people will buy it Over Halo. The same way as when Halo improved over other FPS games and was bought.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

gogeta242

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

Okay somebody correct me if Im wrong, but Prey was in development for like over 10 years, right? 10 years of development and it received okay scores. :)

[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]Killzone has to get through Half-Life and Call of Duty first.
For Killzone, that would be like taking on a Challenger 2 with an AK-47.Michael85

Killzone hasn't even made it past freakin' Turok yet, let alone those shooters.

And I'm talking the most recent Turok, not the great ones on the N64.

Turok for the PS2 made me LOL all over the place.

[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

Bill_McBlumpkin

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

Yeah, hahaha.

Listen - jumping is obviously "last gen," just like rumble. This generation it's all about running around a 4D space and not being able to jump over a 12 inch high obstacle.

ugh, so annoying:x

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

gogeta242

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

darkshadow64

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

Okay somebody correct me if Im wrong, but Prey was in development for like over 10 years, right? 10 years of development and it received okay scores. :)

Self ownage there, if it was in dev for that long, it would be outdated upon release. Which is why Prey got lackluster scores. Also, who says they didn't redo the project starting from scratch and making changes for each passing gen:|

[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="gogeta242"]

[QUOTE="Michael85"]Killzone has to pull itself out of the realm of suck to do that.gogeta242

Its a strong possibility it will do that, Sony plans to release it this year alongside Halo 3. The game must be awesome for them to take a risk like that. It seems they have a lot of confidence in the game. Trust me, the game will rock the FPS world.

So Halo is/will be the only good FPS out there, people move on you know. Halo was unknown until it blew up and got known. Now that its over, some FPS has to take its place. :|If Killzone improves over Halo, people will buy it Over Halo. The same way as when Halo improved over other FPS games and was bought.

[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

_S0LID_SNAKE_

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

You're forgetting about multiple things going on, more frantic action, better aiming, and better mission design. All of these are a possibility.

[QUOTE="darkshadow64"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

gogeta242

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

Okay somebody correct me if Im wrong, but Prey was in development for like over 10 years, right? 10 years of development and it received okay scores. :)

Self ownage there, if it was in dev for that long, it would be outdated upon release. Which is why Prey got lackluster scores. Also, who says they didn't redo the project starting from scratch and making changes for each passing gen:|

[QUOTE="darkshadow64"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

gogeta242

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

Okay somebody correct me if Im wrong, but Prey was in development for like over 10 years, right? 10 years of development and it received okay scores. :)

Self ownage there, if it was in dev for that long, it would be outdated upon release. Which is why Prey got lackluster scores. Also, who says they didn't redo the project starting from scratch and making changes for each passing gen:|

Self-ownage denied.
1) I did say correct me if Im wrong
2) I never made a conclusion.

:)

[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

Imagine if you could actually JUMP in KZ2?!?!?!

GASP!

gogeta242

Halo 3 is the same as Halo 2except for more weapons and a bubble shield.:|, playing the Beta was a big dissapointment to me.

You're forgetting about multiple things going on, more frantic action, better aiming, and better mission design. All of these are a possibility.

[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="gogeta242"]

[QUOTE="Michael85"]Killzone has to pull itself out of the realm of suck to do that._S0LID_SNAKE_

Its a strong possibility it will do that, Sony plans to release it this year alongside Halo 3. The game must be awesome for them to take a risk like that. It seems they have a lot of confidence in the game. Trust me, the game will rock the FPS world.

So Halo is/will be the only good FPS out there, people move on you know. Halo was unknown until it blew up and got known. Now that its over, some FPS has to take its place. :|If Killzone improves over Halo, people will buy it Over Halo. The same way as when Halo improved over other FPS games and was bought.

Games sell consoles buddy:|, and Halo was unknown as well until they made a good game. By your arguement, Mass Effect is unknown and will not do good as well. BTW, why do you have an MGS avatar if you're so Anti-playstation:?

[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="darkshadow64"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

darkshadow64

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

Okay somebody correct me if Im wrong, but Prey was in development for like over 10 years, right? 10 years of development and it received okay scores. :)

Self ownage there, if it was in dev for that long, it would be outdated upon release. Which is why Prey got lackluster scores. Also, who says they didn't redo the project starting from scratch and making changes for each passing gen:|

Self-ownage denied.
1) I did say correct me if Im wrong
2) I never made a conclusion.

:)

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="darkshadow64"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

You haven't even seen a screenshot and now you're hyping it even more?

Goodness, you people need to stop hyping KZ2 so much. The first one was bad, the second one could be good but no one knows. Stop saying it'll kill Halo when you don't even know anything about the game.

_S0LID_SNAKE_

The fact that we haven't seen a screenshot while its been in development for so long is a big reason to hype it. They had such a long time to work on the game.

Okay somebody correct me if Im wrong, but Prey was in development for like over 10 years, right? 10 years of development and it received okay scores. :)

Self ownage there, if it was in dev for that long, it would be outdated upon release. Which is why Prey got lackluster scores. Also, who says they didn't redo the project starting from scratch and making changes for each passing gen:|

Point taken, each dev is different , so there was no need for that guy to bring up Prey.

Games sell consoles buddy:|, and Halo was unknown as well until they made a good game. By your arguement, Mass Effect is unknown and will not do good as well. BTW, why do you have an MGS avatar if you're so Anti-playstation:?

gogeta242

hmmmmm..., this is such a hard choice.I can either hype

Halo- a proven AAA title

Or Killzone-A sequel to a mediocre game with no screenshot or gameplay footage realesed in 2 years

You say that they havent released a single screenshot of the game because its so great, but it isnt it possible that they havent realesed beacuse nothing they have made yet matches the cgi trailer they made 2 years ago.Hmmmm i wonder

And anyway, if Killzone 2 looks awesome as you make it out to be, sony should have released a trailer of it the same GeOw luanched to take away its "Wow" factor

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

Bill_McBlumpkin

Please leave my thread if you're just going to make annoying statements instead of contributing to the debate:)

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

Bill_McBlumpkin

They would have had enough room for everything, except they wasted 20 gigs of blueray space on uncompressed profanities for the main character to shout.

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]

Games sell consoles buddy:|, and Halo was unknown as well until they made a good game. By your arguement, Mass Effect is unknown and will not do good as well. BTW, why do you have an MGS avatar if you're so Anti-playstation:?

project343

Mass Effect is a new IP, the devs making it doesn't make it a proven game. Mass Effect is still unknown. By your arguement, every game a succesful dev make is proven:? AM2 made Virtua Fighter, a succesful game. If AM2 makes another game its automatically assumed to be a proven title. I don't get your logic:|

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

Michael85

They would have had enough room for everything, except they wasted 20 gigs of blueray space on uncompressed profanities for the main character to shout.

Give me the lotto numbers while you're at it. :shock:

[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

gogeta242

Please leave my thread if you're just going to make annoying statements instead of contributing to the debate:)

What debate? Theres nothing to debate because there's nothing known about the game.

You're saying Killzone 2 is going to be awesome based only on two things:

Killzone 1 was a bad game.

They have released NO info on Killzone 2 since the fake CGI trailer.

Based on those two things, I'm saying don't get your hopes up.

Now, I'm not saying it won't be a good game, Hell, I hope it is (I own all 3 systems and I welcome any great games I can get).... but I base what I say on the developer's pedigree. Killzone 1 demonstrated that they have absolutely no idea what they're doing when making a FPS. Honestly man, you couldn't even jump. They hyped the original to no end calling it "The Halo killer," it was horrible. Now they're taking the second one and hyping it "The Halo killer." See a trend?

[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="gogeta242"]

[QUOTE="Michael85"]Killzone has to pull itself out of the realm of suck to do that.gogeta242

Its a strong possibility it will do that, Sony plans to release it this year alongside Halo 3. The game must be awesome for them to take a risk like that. It seems they have a lot of confidence in the game. Trust me, the game will rock the FPS world.

So Halo is/will be the only good FPS out there, people move on you know. Halo was unknown until it blew up and got known. Now that its over, some FPS has to take its place. :|If Killzone improves over Halo, people will buy it Over Halo. The same way as when Halo improved over other FPS games and was bought.

Games sell consoles buddy:|, and Halo was unknown as well until they made a good game. By your arguement, Mass Effect is unknown and will not do good as well. BTW, why do you have an MGS avatar if you're so Anti-playstation:?

[QUOTE="Michael85"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

gogeta242

They would have had enough room for everything, except they wasted 20 gigs of blueray space on uncompressed profanities for the main character to shout.

Give me the lotto numbers while you're at it. :shock:

Surely you of all people would know the lotto numbers, you already know Killzone 2 will be better than Halo 3.

Features of Killzone 2

Jumping Action

Real time weapon change

Graphics that look just as good as the trailer (If you saw the trailer on youtube in SD from very far away)