Halo is over, now its Killzones turn to dominate the FPS world

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#101 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"]Also your logic is questionable, your basicaly saying, a game in a terrible franchise will kill Halo and KZ2 will be the FPS king....that won't happen people still play H2 online like crazy, and people still play freakin' Halo 1 online on PC! So I highly doubt KZ will kill Halo. gogeta242

I never said Killzone would kill Halo, notice I said Halois over because Halo3 is the last Halo game. I strongly believe Killzone 2 has a great chance at being better than Halo 3, cause the beta was crap.

Thats your own opinion, most people thought that the beta was great.
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#102 gogeta242
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How long did you play the BETA for? Did you play it through Crackdown?

What is/was your tag?

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I played from starting date, til it was over. Gamertag xxSSJ4Gokuxx.

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#103 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="ProWarrior69"]why do we have to stop hyping KZ2 when all the little xbox fangirls talk about failo 3 constantlyMichael85

Because Halo is the king of console shooters, has two AAA's under its belt, and Killzone can't even outscore a Nintendo made FPS created by the devs of the Mary Kate and Ashley games. That's why:|

:lol: imagine that.

"From the Studio that brought you "Mary Kate & Ashley" *Epic Music Playing* "KILLZONE 2!"

Geist 7.8 > Killzone 6.9

Live life only buying games GS say are good, thats sad. :|

Killzone's universally bad.

Too bad he can't accept the fact that Killzone was absolute trash. Where the big name PC FPS run the show a 6.9 in the JV league just doesn't cut it.

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#104 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"]

[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"]Also your logic is questionable, your basicaly saying, a game in a terrible franchise will kill Halo and KZ2 will be the FPS king....that won't happen people still play H2 online like crazy, and people still play freakin' Halo 1 online on PC! So I highly doubt KZ will kill Halo. _S0LID_SNAKE_

I never said Killzone would kill Halo, notice I said Halois over because Halo3 is the last Halo game. I strongly believe Killzone 2 has a great chance at being better than Halo 3, cause the beta was crap.

Thats your own opinion, most people thought that the beta was great.

Are you sure you're not a Sony hater, cause you defend MS to the death and jump on the chance to bash PS. Yet you say you're a PS fan, what gives:?

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#105 SpideR_CentS
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yeah, just WAIT for that one ............................................................
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#106 gogeta242
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Blackbond, why're you bringing up KZ1 scores. Killzone 2 is a different game from the first one. Devs improve, so just stop it. I can't wait to see how many Lems clear out of system wars when Killzone 2 is shown and becomes the talk of the show.
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#108 lowe0
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Also guys, remember that all PS3 games so far have only used RSX for graphics, and not even much of its power. When PS3 uses Cell +RSX for visuals, we'll see more than what PS3 can do. I know the first Lem that comes in here will mock me and say"teh Cell" and crap like that, but its the truth guys.
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Except that we don't know if it's the truth.  I have yet to see anything that proves the PS3 is more capable than the 360.  I'll look at Killzone with an open mind, and I'll buy it if it's good (judged on its own, not against Halo), but I just don't see Guerrilla outdoing Bungie.
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#109 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="gogeta242"]

[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"]Also your logic is questionable, your basicaly saying, a game in a terrible franchise will kill Halo and KZ2 will be the FPS king....that won't happen people still play H2 online like crazy, and people still play freakin' Halo 1 online on PC! So I highly doubt KZ will kill Halo. gogeta242

I never said Killzone would kill Halo, notice I said Halois over because Halo3 is the last Halo game. I strongly believe Killzone 2 has a great chance at being better than Halo 3, cause the beta was crap.

Thats your own opinion, most people thought that the beta was great.

Are you sure you're not a Sony hater, cause you defend MS to the death and jump on the chance to bash PS. Yet you say you're a PS fan, what gives:?

I'm not a Sony hater, I'm not bashing sony I'm bashing KZ2. And I'm not defending MS to death either I'm pissed of about there terribly unreliable hardware (my 360 broke after 3 weeks), but you wont believe me. In any case I'm a Nintendo fan, I own all of there systems.
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#110 gogeta242
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yeah, just WAIT for that one ............................................................SpideR_CentS

I guess Lemmingscan't think of something new to say against PS3:? You're waiting too for the games you want as well, what a hypocrit.

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#111 zombiepigeon
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With what? We have seen nothing about this game but a scam trailer and confirmation of an E3 showing.

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#112 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Michael85"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

goodlay

They would have had enough room for everything, except they wasted 20 gigs of blueray space on uncompressed profanities for the main character to shout.

Give me the lotto numbers while you're at it. :shock:

Surely you of all people would know the lotto numbers, you already know Killzone 2 will be better than Halo 3.

I said it COULD BE, so stop searching for ownage. I played the Halo 3 beta, and Killzone has a good chance in being better than Halo 3 if they improve alot from the first one.

Then dont make your title that way you nub. HALO IS OVER, TIME FOR KILLZONE TO DOMINATE THE FPS WORLD

You dont know crap about the game, quit f`in talking

You do you think you're talking to:|, keep it up and I'll get you banned for rude posting.

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why do we have to stop hyping KZ2 when all the little xbox fangirls talk about failo 3 constantlyProWarrior69

honestly act like a grown man dude, stop with the name calling.

first off, both Halo 1 and 2 got AAA so it gives fans hope and belief that 3 will be AAA as well, people have actually played a Halo 3 Beta, which gives the individual an idea whether the game is going in the right direction or not, we have seen and read tons of information on the game, so YES, people can actually hype the game and actually debate what they like and don't like about it.

Now to Killzone, the First game didn't get very good reviews, so to expect the second to be the best thing since slice bread is silly to begin with, can someone expect it to be better, sure why not, but you guys need to calm down a bit. Besides, again, nothing has been show about this game, NOTHING at all, so how can anyone hype it and say that it will be a halo killer or any kind of killer?

I don't own a PS3 or intend to, but I don't want the game to stink, but right now without knowing anything about this game,how can anyone in their right mind say that Killzone will be better than another game, christ for all we know it might not even get a higher score than The Outfit. or it might just make me kill my family, steal all their money buy a PS3 and 20 copies, who knows!

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#114 gogeta242
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With what? We have seen nothing about this game but a scam trailer and confirmation of an E3 showing.

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scam trailer, just like the Halo 3 trailer;), funny how the game looks just barely better than Halo 2:lol:

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#115 chicken008
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Halo is a AAAseries, Killzone is way behind..
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#116 paabss
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Thread over.

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#118 goodlay
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[QUOTE="goodlay"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Michael85"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

BREAKING NEWS: They added jumping to KZ2 but to make room they had to take out reloading and strafing. Still, it's going to be the best game ever.

gogeta242

They would have had enough room for everything, except they wasted 20 gigs of blueray space on uncompressed profanities for the main character to shout.

Give me the lotto numbers while you're at it. :shock:

Surely you of all people would know the lotto numbers, you already know Killzone 2 will be better than Halo 3.

I said it COULD BE, so stop searching for ownage. I played the Halo 3 beta, and Killzone has a good chance in being better than Halo 3 if they improve alot from the first one.

Then dont make your title that way you nub. HALO IS OVER, TIME FOR KILLZONE TO DOMINATE THE FPS WORLD

You dont know crap about the game, quit f`in talking

You do you think you're talking to:|, keep it up and I'll get you banned for rude posting.

well i think im talking to someone who has ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what killzone 2 is gonna be like. quit jumping to conclusions

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#119 Meu2k7
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Thread over, then why am I still posting:lol: Anyway, we're talking Halo and Killzone. Stop running to Crysis for cover.

Well sorry, but you claimed Killzone will be King of FPS' in the Title and Thread, so dont mind us bumping it putting Flopzone 2 down, seriously how more embarrasment do you want to generate for yourself?

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#120 Velocitas8
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"Dominate the FPS world?"

Both are console shooters.

'nuff said.

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#121 Blackbond
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Blackbond, why're you bringing up KZ1 scores. Killzone 2 is a different game from the first one. Devs improve, so just stop it. I can't wait to see how many Lems clear out of system wars when Killzone 2 is shown and becomes the talk of the show.gogeta242

Prowarrior asked why are people allowed to talk about Failo 3 but get laughed at when they Hype Killzone 2. They get laughed at because of Killzone 1. I'm just stating the obvious. If Lemmings clear out of system wars then they do. Its no business of mine.

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#122 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="gogeta242"]

Games sell consoles buddy:|, and Halo was unknown as well until they made a good game. By your arguement, Mass Effect is unknown and will not do good as well. BTW, why do you have an MGS avatar if you're so Anti-playstation:?

gogeta242



Are you suggesting that the Marathon trilogy sucked... and that Bioware is an unsuccessful company? I hope I'm reading that wrong.

Mass Effect is a new IP, the devs making it doesn't make it a proven game. Mass Effect is still unknown. By your arguement, every game a succesful dev make is proven:? AM2 made Virtua Fighter, a succesful game. If AM2 makes another game its automatically assumed to be a proven title. I don't get your logic:|

but at least people have seen something from Mass Effect, at least we have an idea where the game is going, so maybe someone can say, hey it looks good AAA, or AA or that it looks terrible and you lose faith in it, but Killzone? nothing, nada! to hype this game is insanity. of course this game can be the greatest thing ever, mediocre or a piece of junk, but my advice to you is to calm down and wait till we see something! anything at all about this game instead of CGI movies.

Game insiders are calling it the best FPS ever made, don't judge people by their past work, devs know how to improve.

can you please provide a link?

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#123 gogeta242
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Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.
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#124 paabss
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[QUOTE="paabss"]














Thread over.

gogeta242

Thread over, then why am I still posting:lol: Anyway, we're talking Halo and Killzone. Stop running to Crysis for cover.

I;m sorry, but its says " Killzones turn to dominate the FPS world" read the topic title, That means that it wil b bettehr tahn others FPS like Crysis or COD4

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#125 Meu2k7
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Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

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#126 DuDisNow
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:lol:Are you kidding me? It will not be Killzone. Halo 3 will own FPS until a better game comes out...in 2010.
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.Meu2k7

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

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#128 paabss
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:lol:Are you kidding me? It will not be Killzone. Halo 3 will own FPS until a better game comes out...in 2010.DuDisNow

Crysis 2007 in 2 months.

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#129 joslop500
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the first thing they need to do if they want to even come close to halo is get rid of the sixaxis, im sorry but the ps2,ps3 joystick layout is just horrible for FPS
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#131 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:, FF dominates the RPG world for 20 years, Halo dominates for 6 years, but FF can't be recalled as a dominating game yet Halo can. ugh Lemmings.:roll:

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#132 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

So your telling me all the FF's were near perfect? FF8 didnt achieve FF7 standard, FF9 even less so, FF10 brought it back.

FF125 went litterally nearly unoticed anywhere but Japan, FF6 was great.

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#133 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:, FF dominates the RPG world for 20 years, Halo dominates for 6 years, but FF can't be recalled as a dominating game yet Halo can. ugh Lemmings.:roll:

FF hasnt dominated the RPG world, what on earth are you talking about? Is your influence that VOID outside of Sony gaming?

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#134 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="zombiepigeon"]

With what? We have seen nothing about this game but a scam trailer and confirmation of an E3 showing.

LEGEND_C4A

scam trailer, just like the Halo 3 trailer;), funny how the game looks just barely better than Halo 2:lol:

excuse me, but it was announced before the trailer came out that it was CGI, no way was microsoft going to be that stupid and try to pull that trick after the Killzone trailer, come on dude, stop, how old are you?

seriously how old are you? cause i'm starting to think you are just Fu**ing around. and I need to know if this is a grown man that pulling this crap or some little kid.

No, Bungie and MS said it was in-game, so stop with the Damage Control. Keep talking to me rudely, and I'll have you suspended.

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#135 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.Meu2k7

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

So your telling me all the FF's were near perfect? FF8 didnt achieve FF7 standard, FF9 even less so, FF10 brought it back.

FF125 went litterally nearly unoticed anywhere but Japan, FF6 was great.

All FFs were great and improved, H3 didn't really improve much over H2. FF is a much more prestigious franchise than Halo will ever be, so don't compare the two. FF will still be pumping out great games 10 years from now while Halo will be long forgotten about.

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#136 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.Meu2k7

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:, FF dominates the RPG world for 20 years, Halo dominates for 6 years, but FF can't be recalled as a dominating game yet Halo can. ugh Lemmings.:roll:

FF hasnt dominated the RPG world, what on earth are you talking about? Is your influence that VOID outside of Sony gaming?

Okay if FF isn't dominating the RPG world, than Halo isn't dominating anything in the FPS world.

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#137 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

So your telling me all the FF's were near perfect? FF8 didnt achieve FF7 standard, FF9 even less so, FF10 brought it back.

FF125 went litterally nearly unoticed anywhere but Japan, FF6 was great.

All FFs were great and improved, H3 didn't really improve much over H2. FF is a much more prestigious franchise than Halo will ever be, so don't compare the two. FF will still be pumping out great games 10 years from now while Halo will be long forgotten about.

:roll: Yup just what I thought, a complete Sony Fanboy. I'm not suprised mind, judging by the nickname it was very likely your prone to fanboy syndrome .

Live in your little Sony Bubble, nobody care :D

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#138 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:, FF dominates the RPG world for 20 years, Halo dominates for 6 years, but FF can't be recalled as a dominating game yet Halo can. ugh Lemmings.:roll:

FF hasnt dominated the RPG world, what on earth are you talking about? Is your influence that VOID outside of Sony gaming?

Okay if FF isn't dominating the RPG world, than Halo isn't dominating anything in the FPS world.

MY GOD he got it right!

Well done, now your are "LEARNED!" first step on the path to Unbias-ism xD

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#139 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

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#140 TehArchShadow
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[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

Features of Killzone 2

Jumping Action

Real time weapon change

Graphics that look just as good as the trailer (If you saw the trailer on youtube in SD from very far away)

gogeta242

another crystal ball owner, man those things must be cheap nowadays:D

You would know because you seem to own one.

Umm, I'm not that thinks Halo 3 will automatically be better than Killzone 2. I said Killzone COULD be better than Halo 3 based off the beta I played. You and the Lems think its FACT that Halo 3 is better than an unveiled game. :?

Um I thought you said this was a DEBATE. Debates in the non-fanboy world are based upon evidence and LOGIC, not OPINIONS and personal EMOTIONS. There is NO DEBATE if you choose to refute any arguement presented against you by simply shielding yourself with your OPINIONS. So, please, if you still consider this thread to be a debate, stop saying "I said Killzone COULD be better than Halo 3" because anyone can say "could", but what counts in the real world is the past tense or the present. Personally, I've never played Killzone so I can not comment on its quality but from what I've heard and read, it seems to be average at best. I never liked the Halo series except for splitscreen with some friends when we're boredand I prefer FPS on computer, but for most people and most reviewers, the Halo franchise WAS and ISa AAA and high selling franchise. The same could not be said about Killzone. Thus, HYPE for Killzone, based on absolutely NO info and seeing the pedigree of its developers, should NOT exist at such a high level.

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#141 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.Meu2k7

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

So your telling me all the FF's were near perfect? FF8 didnt achieve FF7 standard, FF9 even less so, FF10 brought it back.

FF125 went litterally nearly unoticed anywhere but Japan, FF6 was great.

All FFs were great and improved, H3 didn't really improve much over H2. FF is a much more prestigious franchise than Halo will ever be, so don't compare the two. FF will still be pumping out great games 10 years from now while Halo will be long forgotten about.

:roll: Yup just what I thought, a complete Sony Fanboy. I'm not suprised mind, judging by the nickname it was very likely your prone to fanboy syndrome .

Live in your little Sony Bubble, nobody care :D

Sony bubble? I have PS3 and 360 and I plan on getting a Wii. I've been gaming for over 15 years. I loved the SNES and other systems. You misread me, I said Killzone COULD be better than Halo 3. As of now Halo is the best multiplayer FPS out there, but something new could take its place in the future, thats all I said. You're the one in a Micro-bubble saying Halo is a dominating series but FF isn't. FF sold more copies than any other RPG series in the world, its also the most acclaimed series in the world as well, so I'm not only going by sales. The fact that you call Halo dominating but FF not makes you a blind MS fanboy.

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#142 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

So your telling me all the FF's were near perfect? FF8 didnt achieve FF7 standard, FF9 even less so, FF10 brought it back.

FF125 went litterally nearly unoticed anywhere but Japan, FF6 was great.

All FFs were great and improved, H3 didn't really improve much over H2. FF is a much more prestigious franchise than Halo will ever be, so don't compare the two. FF will still be pumping out great games 10 years from now while Halo will be long forgotten about.

:roll: Yup just what I thought, a complete Sony Fanboy. I'm not suprised mind, judging by the nickname it was very likely your prone to fanboy syndrome .

Live in your little Sony Bubble, nobody care :D

Sony bubble? I have PS3 and 360 and I plan on getting a Wii. I've been gaming for over 15 years. I loved the SNES and other systems. You misread me, I said Killzone COULD be better than Halo 3. As of now Halo is the best multiplayer FPS out there, but something new could take its place in the future, thats all I said. You're the one in a Micro-bubble saying Halo is a dominating series but FF isn't. FF sold more copies than any other RPG series in the world, its also the most acclaimed series in the world as well, so I'm not only going by sales. The fact that you call Halo dominating but FF not makes you a blind MS fanboy.

I have not said Halo is dominent, from my very first post in this thread I have said the exact opposite! Neither of them are dominent in thier Genres.

I dont even have a 360 yet, I had an xbox/GC/Snes/N64/PS1/PS2/PSP/Megadrive aswell.

Doesnt my sig make it obvious which platform I'm currently using?

Sony - Bubble, ok, but you definatly havnt had a broader sense of gaming to think FF is dominent.

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#143 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.Blackbond

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

Live by GS scores if you, want, REAL GAMERS WILL NOT. PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP GS SCORES TO PROVE YOUR POINT CAUSE NO ONE CARES. Go to Gamerankings and every real FF game dominates in scores. FF sold more than every other RPGs. Bottom line Million of Gamers opinions>>>>>>>>>>>>GS opinion and your opinion.

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#144 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="zombiepigeon"]

With what? We have seen nothing about this game but a scam trailer and confirmation of an E3 showing.

gogeta242

scam trailer, just like the Halo 3 trailer;), funny how the game looks just barely better than Halo 2:lol:

excuse me, but it was announced before the trailer came out that it was CGI, no way was microsoft going to be that stupid and try to pull that trick after the Killzone trailer, come on dude, stop, how old are you?

seriously how old are you? cause i'm starting to think you are just Fu**ing around. and I need to know if this is a grown man that pulling this crap or some little kid.

No, Bungie and MS said it was in-game, so stop with the Damage Control. Keep talking to me rudely, and I'll have you suspended.

hold on I'm talking about the commercial that came on during the monday night football game, which was confirmed CGI with in game assets, if thats not what we are talking about then I apologize for that, but i'm not aplogizing about you Fu**ing around, if you want to report me thats fine I don't care.

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#145 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

Live by GS scores if you, want, REAL GAMERS WILL NOT. PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP GS SCORES TO PROVE YOUR POINT CAUSE NO ONE CARES. Go to Gamerankings and every real FF game dominates in scores. FF sold more than every other RPGs. Bottom line Million of Gamers opinions>>>>>>>>>>>>GS opinion and your opinion.

Show proof , oh right, you dont have any.

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#146 FlamingFlamingo
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

Live by GS scores if you, want, REAL GAMERS WILL NOT. PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP GS SCORES TO PROVE YOUR POINT CAUSE NO ONE CARES. Go to Gamerankings and every real FF game dominates in scores. FF sold more than every other RPGs. Bottom line Million of Gamers opinions>>>>>>>>>>>>GS opinion and your opinion.

GS reviewers are a lot more educated and experienced compared to you.

Killzone 1 sucked.

So will Killzone 2.

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#147 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.Meu2k7

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

Live by GS scores if you, want, REAL GAMERS WILL NOT. PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP GS SCORES TO PROVE YOUR POINT CAUSE NO ONE CARES. Go to Gamerankings and every real FF game dominates in scores. FF sold more than every other RPGs. Bottom line Million of Gamers opinions>>>>>>>>>>>>GS opinion and your opinion.

Show proof , oh right, you dont have any.

Sales+industry preference is all the proof I need:)

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#148 gogeta242
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[QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.FlamingFlamingo

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

Live by GS scores if you, want, REAL GAMERS WILL NOT. PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP GS SCORES TO PROVE YOUR POINT CAUSE NO ONE CARES. Go to Gamerankings and every real FF game dominates in scores. FF sold more than every other RPGs. Bottom line Million of Gamers opinions>>>>>>>>>>>>GS opinion and your opinion.

GS reviewers are a lot more educated and experienced compared to you.

Killzone 1 sucked.

So will Killzone 2.

Whatever makes you sleep at night Lem, make sure you keep your crystal ball nice and shiny. Keep bashing what you fear.

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#149 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

Live by GS scores if you, want, REAL GAMERS WILL NOT. PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP GS SCORES TO PROVE YOUR POINT CAUSE NO ONE CARES. Go to Gamerankings and every real FF game dominates in scores. FF sold more than every other RPGs. Bottom line Million of Gamers opinions>>>>>>>>>>>>GS opinion and your opinion.

Gamespot scores are the only scores that matter. I own all those games above anyways so maybe you should just put your head down in shame. The GS review is a fact your opinion is nothing to me. Don't tell me about a real gamer because I own all those games and have beaten them plus I probably own more games then you. I'm talking about scores you are talking about sales. Wow since when did game sales mean quality. By your logic Mario Party 8 is the best game out right now :roll:

I don't care how much its sold. It hasn't dominated the RPG market. Not like Halo has done to console FPS with sales and SCORES.

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#150 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="FlamingFlamingo"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="gogeta242"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="gogeta242"]Since you Lemmings think Killzone can't overcome Halo because its unproven, then you can stop with the Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey vs Final Fantasy threads. Unlike Killzone, we've seen something from those RPGs and they bring nothing new to the table to dethrone FF. FF has been dominating the RPG world far longer than Halo has dominated the FPS world. So if you think its impossible for Killzone to topple Halo, stop with these threads and accept it as fact that Final Fantasy will own all RPGs, just like you accept it as fact that Halo owns the FPS world.gogeta242

Again wrong, FF has dominated nothing, it just has a good fan base.

If you truly belive all the FF games beat all other RPG's then you clearly havnt played many, or just as bad as the "Halo Fanboys".

Double standard I see:roll:

Final Fantasy lost dominance at the end of the PS1 era.

  • FFIX = 8.5
  • FFX = 9.3
  • FFX-2 = 8.2
  • FFXII = 9.0
  1. Oblvion scored a 9.6 which yes outscored FFXII.
  2. Final Fantasy X-2 isn't dominating anything lol.
  3. FFX scored well
  4. FFIX didn't even get AAA

There is no doulbe standard. Halo has dominated Console FPS. Final Fantasy has not.

Live by GS scores if you, want, REAL GAMERS WILL NOT. PLEASE STOP BRINGING UP GS SCORES TO PROVE YOUR POINT CAUSE NO ONE CARES. Go to Gamerankings and every real FF game dominates in scores. FF sold more than every other RPGs. Bottom line Million of Gamers opinions>>>>>>>>>>>>GS opinion and your opinion.

GS reviewers are a lot more educated and experienced compared to you.

Killzone 1 sucked.

So will Killzone 2.

Whatever makes you sleep at night Lem, make sure you keep your crystal ball nice and shiny. Keep bashing what you fear.

Nobody is fearing Killzone 2 lol. Hell at least I'm not. I'm just trying to find the logic why anyone would hype the sequel to trash *** garbage. With a game like KZ2 you wait and see if its good. You don't hype it.