Halo isn't generic.

If you don't enjoy the game, that's fine, but I'll never believe it's "generic" unless someone can point out a multiplayer game that plays like it. It's hard to even call it a "shooter" when half your kills are some kind of melee (or splatter or grenade or enemy falls off the edge).

If you base your "Halo = generic" thinking off of the campaign, that's... stupid. Of course, GameSpot is filled with a bunch of stubborn anti-multiplayer Bioshock lovers, so good luck to me trying to get that message across...

Instead of saying Halo is "generic" you could just say you didn't like it.

after reading some of the 148 posts...

I think when people say a game is generic they mean that there are other games that play very similarly, and they are implying that there are similar games that are "better" (of course there is no such thing as "better" with games). Or I guess sometimes people just use it as a way to say "bad."

There seriously just aren't multiplayer games that play very similarly to Halo multiplayer. You could say that other games have recharging shields, and that other games have vehicles, and that other games had individual elements that Halo has, before Halo came out, but that doesn't proove anything if the games don't play much like each other. Or you could be an idiot and say "UT is better than Halo. Therefore Halo is generic."

People have different tastes in games - the most fun I ever had with a game was Halo2's online multiplayer. It's not up to anyone else to decide what kind of game I like most. And I've never really gotten the feeling I did from playing that in any other game.

I can't believe people actually argued about Halo's story and campaign. Freaken Bioshock lovers.

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Mythbuster4ever

Quickly behind the Bubble Shield! We can deflect their projectile attacks, but must find a way to stop their melees!

Level up because you'll need alteast +50 flame resistance to survive.

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SSCyborg

Quickly behind the Bubble Shield! We can deflect their projectile attacks, but must find a way to stop their melees!

Throw granades!

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SSCyborg

Quickly behind the Bubble Shield! We can deflect their projectile attacks, but must find a way to stop their melees!

Halo is not generic.

It's just not innovative.

Does that distract from the fun?

Nope.

If it was generic, it would be like everything else and NOT fun.

Of course it isn't generic. Generic games don't sell millions upon millions of copies. Generic games don't set sales records.

But good luck convinving somebody who doesn't want to be convinved.

Well, I find it pretty 'generic', but i still like the game.

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ctmab

Quickly behind the Bubble Shield! We can deflect their projectile attacks, but must find a way to stop their melees!

Throw granades!

NO DONT! THEY'LL HIT THE BUBBLE AND BOUNCE BACK! THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO JIMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Flaming_Smoke

Quickly behind the Bubble Shield! We can deflect their projectile attacks, but must find a way to stop their melees!

Did you bring the cookies?

It's not generic, I just got bored of it. Probably because it seems like I was always playing "Who Can Get To The Gravity Hammer First" (I believe thats what it's called, im not really sure now because I haven't played it since mid-October) so I just stopped playing. I don't blame Bungie or Halo 3 for that, I blame the players for making it seem generic. Maybe one day this week i'll boot it up and see if I can get into it.BoricuaProdigy

You should try some of the MLG style maps, or maybe Team Hardcore(I dont think it has the hammer) It's faster paced and more fun IMO.

well i played Call of duty 4, and now im playing Halo 2.

they're basically the same game except halo has aliens.

Although i enjoyed CoD4 a lot more, its more intense. most shooters are generic imo.

relating to or characteristic of a whole group or classMerriam-Webster Dictionary

halo's single player is definetly generic. The story is nothing I haven't seen in a game before, and the dialogue is just so cheesy. I thought games had moved past that

The singleplay dose nothing that really stands out against what has allready been done in previous PC shooters. I don't know about the multiplayer though, havnt played MP enough to judge it.

I agree, its THE flagship of MS FPS's..everything they had went into the game and it shows.Heil68

Because its core gameplay is just the typical run-and-gun FPS fare.Hoffgod

Are there any FPS games that you wouldn't consider run-and-gun? Halo actually requires a more tactical approach than most shooters. You need to utilize melee and grenades in almost every single battle. You need to be cautious, knowing when to advance and when to retreat, because as tough as Master Chief is, you can be taken out pretty quickly with a single grenade or bad luck running into a lot of plasma gun fire.

A run-and-gun game is something like the Quake or GoldenEye where you could run through levels and take on hoards of enemies without having to think very much about your health. The faster you take them out the better, but the enemies rarely ever present a challenge. It's only after the hits have added up that you are in any real danger. In Halo, any particular enemy can take you out at any time, especially on the harder difficulty levels.

It's not a shooter? Damn,when I played it I was using a hell of alot of guns.

In all seriousness,no it's not generic. And yes,it is a bad game. You wanna know a game that plays like Halo? UT. But UT get's it right,with the fast movement and epic vehicle battles. Halo 3 feels like UT on the opposite of crack...Meaning it just doesn't do anything right.

Bubble Shield is holding up strong boys! Good job! We need to start using our flamethrower when they get close.SSCyborg

You mean the flamethrower they included in one map?

Really,what was the point of that post. I could take any shooter and make a post using tactics from it. Here,have some Crysis:

"Alright guys,I got the Tac Launcher. Come pick me up in the helicopter and we'll fly over their base. When we get there,ill parachute out and nuke the whole facility."

Space aliens, end of world, fight for humanity, one man alone has the strength.

*YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN*

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]Because its core gameplay is just the typical run-and-gun FPS fare.swamprat_basic

Are there any FPS games that you wouldn't consider run-and-gun? Halo actually requires a more tactical approach than most shooters. You need to utilize melee and grenades in almost every single battle. You need to be cautious, knowing when to advance and when to retreat, because as tough as Master Chief is, you can be taken out pretty quickly with a single grenade or bad luck running into a lot of plasma gun fire.

A run-and-gun game is something like the Quake or GoldenEye where you could run through levels and take on hoards of enemies without having to think very much about your health. The faster you take them out the better, but the enemies rarely ever present a challenge. It's only after the hits have added up that you are in any real danger. In Halo, any particular enemy can take you out at any time, especially on the harder difficulty levels.

Its not generic since it has influenced nearly all future FPS's via only two guns at a time, designated Grenade button, designated melee attack, vehicles outside of WW2 games. Halo 3 offers Forge (real time map editng) and saved movie feature. The battle items are cool, but really just gimmicks.wok7

I don't like Halo because it's generic.

I'm serious.

The multiplayer of Metal Arms: A Glitch in the System has a Halo-esque multiplayer, minus the online function. .

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[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]Because its core gameplay is just the typical run-and-gun FPS fare.Hoffgod

Are there any FPS games that you wouldn't consider run-and-gun? Halo actually requires a more tactical approach than most shooters. You need to utilize melee and grenades in almost every single battle. You need to be cautious, knowing when to advance and when to retreat, because as tough as Master Chief is, you can be taken out pretty quickly with a single grenade or bad luck running into a lot of plasma gun fire.

A run-and-gun game is something like the Quake or GoldenEye where you could run through levels and take on hoards of enemies without having to think very much about your health. The faster you take them out the better, but the enemies rarely ever present a challenge. It's only after the hits have added up that you are in any real danger. In Halo, any particular enemy can take you out at any time, especially on the harder difficulty levels.

What difficulty were you playing on? Because Easy / Normal is a very different experience than Heroic, and Legendary is in a class all its own.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]Because its core gameplay is just the typical run-and-gun FPS fare.swamprat_basic

Are there any FPS games that you wouldn't consider run-and-gun? Halo actually requires a more tactical approach than most shooters. You need to utilize melee and grenades in almost every single battle. You need to be cautious, knowing when to advance and when to retreat, because as tough as Master Chief is, you can be taken out pretty quickly with a single grenade or bad luck running into a lot of plasma gun fire.

A run-and-gun game is something like the Quake or GoldenEye where you could run through levels and take on hoards of enemies without having to think very much about your health. The faster you take them out the better, but the enemies rarely ever present a challenge. It's only after the hits have added up that you are in any real danger. In Halo, any particular enemy can take you out at any time, especially on the harder difficulty levels.

What difficulty were you playing on?

The multiplayer of Metal Arms: A Glitch in the System has a Halo-esque multiplayer, minus the online function.Shad0ki11

That observation might have been relevant had Metal Arms come out before Halo, but it came out 2 years after Halo.

If you don't enjoy the game, that's fine, but I'll never believe it's "generic" unless someone can point out a multiplayer game that plays like it. It's hard to even call it a "shooter" when half your kills are some kind of melee (or splatter or grenade or enemy falls off the edge).

If you base your "Halo = generic" thinking off of the campaign, that's... stupid. Of course, GameSpot is filled with a bunch of stubborn anti-multiplayer Bioshock lovers, so good luck to me trying to get that message across...

Instead of saying Halo is "generic" you could just say you didn't like it.

PotatoSan

Um, what? It's the exact opposite here.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The multiplayer of Metal Arms: A Glitch in the System has a Halo-esque multiplayer, minus the online function.swamprat_basic

That observation might have been relevant had Metal Arms come out before Halo, but it came out 2 years after Halo.

But the multiplayer is still like Halo, no?

That is still relevent.

I find the multiplayer in Metal Arms to be more creative as well, as you can take control of enemy bodies that are scattered throughout most of the arenas. If you don't want to take control of them, you can bring them to life and have them fight by your side. XD

Not to mention being able to knock each other's limbs off or unhinge them.

It's so funny watching a robot run around with both of it's arms unhinged while wildy shooting whatever weapon it has equipped. I swear one time I took control of a robot during multiplayer and my friend completely destroyed my robot's body from the waist-up so I was basically running around as a pair of legs until I got destroyed. I friggin LOL'd when that happened.

Space aliens, end of world, fight for humanity, one man alone has the strength.

*YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN*

Hoobinator

I don't like Halo because it's generic.

I'm serious.

The multiplayer of Metal Arms: A Glitch in the System has a Halo-esque multiplayer, minus the online function. .

Shad0ki11

I thought there were loads of people on GS who didnt really like Bioshock.

Hell i thought it was damn great though.

Halo isnt generic, its just its gameplay design is standard fps design, simlar to earlier games.
Doesent mean its a bad game either. Was Doom bad?

I thought there were loads of people on GS who didnt really like Bioshock.

Hell i thought it was damn great though.

Halo isnt generic, its just its gameplay design is standard fps design, simlar to earlier games.
Doesent mean its a bad game either. Was Doom bad?

skrat_01

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I thought there were loads of people on GS who didnt really like Bioshock.

Hell i thought it was damn great though.

Halo isnt generic, its just its gameplay design is standard fps design, simlar to earlier games.
Doesent mean its a bad game either. Was Doom bad?

FrozenLiquid

I'll go into it after I get some dinner - got the munchies

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I thought there were loads of people on GS who didnt really like Bioshock.

Hell i thought it was damn great though.

Halo isnt generic, its just its gameplay design is standard fps design, simlar to earlier games.
Doesent mean its a bad game either. Was Doom bad?

skrat_01

I'll go into it after I get some dinner - got the munchies

Halo relates to being a generic FPS in the same way Tylenol relates to being a generic painkiller. It's just a shiny label and an ad campaign slapped on top of a core gameplay that was more innovative when it was called Marathon, and a story that was more interesting when it was called Starship Troopers and Ringworld. I'm a fan of Halo CE, but it wasn't my first exposure to space marines fighting an alien religious cult facing an onslaught of headcrabs, all with the possiblity of the "big red reset button" in the sky being pressed.

So is Halo unique? Perhaps in quality of execution - but it borrows heavily from source material, so to say "it has been done before" is not far from correct. If you have to argue over a "subtle distinction" in its gameplay structure, you've already lost this argument.

Halo relates to being a generic FPS in the same way Tylenol relates to being a generic painkiller. It's just a shiny label and an ad campaign slapped on top of a core gameplay that was more innovative when it was called Marathon, and a story that was more interesting when it was called Starship Troopers and Ringworld. I'm a fan of Halo CE, but it wasn't my first exposure to space marines fighting an alien religious cult facing an onslaught of headcrabs, all with the possiblity of the "big red reset button" in the sky being pressed.

So is Halo unique? Perhaps in quality of execution - but it borrows heavily from source material, so to say "it has been done before" is not far from correct. If you have to argue over a "subtle distinction" in its gameplay structure, you've already lost this argument.

subrosian

Well said.

how is using melee non generic? Half my kills on COD4 are knife kills (but then I use an mp5 so I get close to enemys anyway). does that make COD4 non generic. Bungie added the bubble shield and stuff to make it feel a little different, but its not origional.

The only origional part of it is the fact that most the enemys are brightly couloured (apart from the flood). And it makes the game feel kiddy, purple, red and green enemys dont really seem that intimidating.