Halo Reach has Absolutely NO!!! Staying Power!!!!!!

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Halo Reach great game=Check

Halo Reach Great online play=Check

Halo Reach great graphics for open world style=Check

Halo Reach great sound=Check

Ok here is the problem after about 2 weeks it is totally boring. The reason for this is we are so used to games having a good upgrade system and Reach falls short of this. You see it is all cosmetic. Once you find the style you like you will most likely keep the look and not even worry about buying other armor cosmetic upgrades.

You really have no desire to try and keep upgrading. If you could mod you weapons with better power aim or gernades or stuff like that then this would have great staying power as an online shooter. It just offers far to little in comparison to games like COD in this aspect.

I think people are already getting bored of the Halo Reach online and when COD BO drops it's going to take over and be the game that has the staying power.

Heirren

:lol: What? The GAME is the reason people continually go back to Halo. Halo 3 was played until Reach dropped, nonstop, and I bet it is still being played today.

The upgrade system is the dumbest thing to implement into fps games! Why make it so some players have better characters than others? Thats lame, and a major reason MW2 is so terrible.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Halo Reach great game=Check

Halo Reach Great online play=Check

Halo Reach great graphics for open world style=Check

Halo Reach great sound=Check

Ok here is the problem after about 2 weeks it is totally boring. The reason for this is we are so used to games having a good upgrade system and Reach falls short of this. You see it is all cosmetic. Once you find the style you like you will most likely keep the look and not even worry about buying other armor cosmetic upgrades.

You really have no desire to try and keep upgrading. If you could mod you weapons with better power aim or gernades or stuff like that then this would have great staying power as an online shooter. It just offers far to little in comparison to games like COD in this aspect.

I think people are already getting bored of the Halo Reach online and when COD BO drops it's going to take over and be the game that has the staying power.

urdead18

:lol: What? The GAME is the reason people continually go back to Halo. Halo 3 was played until Reach dropped, nonstop, and I bet it is still being played today.

The upgrade system is the dumbest thing to implement into fps games! Why make it so some players have better characters than others? Thats lame, and a major reason MW2 is so terrible.

I don't know, you get points which you can get different looking armor, I guess. I don't play as much as most people, I'm sure, but the ability to individualize your character is kind of cool--though just an added bonus. The game is so great it doesn't really need tacked on features.

Also, it is a fact Halo is better than MW2--------MW2 is so broken and buggy it is RIDICULOUS. I'm surprised people play it. It's too bad really, considering the game controls great.

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Halo Reach great game=Check

Halo Reach Great online play=Check

Halo Reach great graphics for open world style=Check

Halo Reach great sound=Check

Ok here is the problem after about 2 weeks it is totally boring. The reason for this is we are so used to games having a good upgrade system and Reach falls short of this. You see it is all cosmetic. Once you find the style you like you will most likely keep the look and not even worry about buying other armor cosmetic upgrades.

You really have no desire to try and keep upgrading. If you could mod you weapons with better power aim or gernades or stuff like that then this would have great staying power as an online shooter. It just offers far to little in comparison to games like COD in this aspect.

I think people are already getting bored of the Halo Reach online and when COD BO drops it's going to take over and be the game that has the staying power.

Heirren

:lol: What? The GAME is the reason people continually go back to Halo. Halo 3 was played until Reach dropped, nonstop, and I bet it is still being played today.

The upgrade system is the dumbest thing to implement into fps games! Why make it so some players have better characters than others? Thats lame, and a major reason MW2 is so terrible.

I agree 100%. But everyone of my COD playing friends ALWAYS cite the perks and unlocks as why they like it better then Halo. Every time. That and the fact that Halo is "harder" online since camping and shooting in the foot holds little tactical advantage ;) . The ADD generation needs a carrot on a stick. Even though only cosmetic the straight up stolen from COD4 progression bar in Reach shows the influence that nonsense has. Thank god for Arena for an interesting take on a real ranking system.

Call me nuts, but I bought Reach for its campaign (which I'd love to play the MP, but I've already got PSN and PC free of charge, so why would I pay a subscription for a few games? :P). DethSkematik

Nothing wrong with that. So did I. The online is welcome icing on the cake for me. Best overall Halo campaign since CE.

Not everyone needs to be treated like kids with new guns every minute. ADHD gamers will get their game in november;)

MFDOOM1983

] But what's the point of levelling? Do you get anything as you level up besides you head exploding into confetti after 200000 credits? I've been playing the game for...maybe 10 hours and I've noticed no change. It's a fun game but..CoD is infinitely better IMO.urdead18

The point of levelling is that you get to look cooler than everyone else. That's it, and that's all an online shooter should have, imo.

What sounds like a better system of online play - a game where 20 players fight it out with the a wide assortment of balanced weapons and abilities...or a game were 19 players fight it out with balanced weapons and abilities, while one player (who's farmed points for longer than anyone else) has imbalanced abilities and a completely unfair advantage over everyone else?

The only online shooter I can think of where levels and upgrades worked was Enemy Territory, and that's only because everyone started a campaign (the server's map rotation list) at the same level, and at the end of the campaign everyone's levels reset. I want to see more of that in online shooters, not any of this terrible prestige point pseudo-rpg stuff.

Halo Reach great game=Check

Halo Reach Great online play=Check

Halo Reach great graphics for open world style=Check

Halo Reach great sound=Check

Ok here is the problem after about 2 weeks it is totally boring. The reason for this is we are so used to games having a good upgrade system and Reach falls short of this. You see it is all cosmetic. Once you find the style you like you will most likely keep the look and not even worry about buying other armor cosmetic upgrades.

You really have no desire to try and keep upgrading. If you could mod you weapons with better power aim or gernades or stuff like that then this would have great staying power as an online shooter. It just offers far to little in comparison to games like COD in this aspect.

I think people are already getting bored of the Halo Reach online and when COD BO drops it's going to take over and be the game that has the staying power.

MortgageMan007

This a funny joke thread. I haha'd.

how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. soapandbubbles

how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. soapandbubbles

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

Oh I know Halo will always have a big online community it will not be dead like games like KZ 2 or anything. What i'm saying is the games like COD have the better staying power especially over the long haul.

MortgageMan007

Odd...I still play KZ2 online frequently. When did it die, again...?

The numbers dropped off quickly though with that game.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. urdead18

Many of the "issues" people have with MW2 are overblown. The game offers counters, and mechanics for just about every situation. The real problem is the community. With hundreds of thousands of people playing daily, you're bound to run into some cheaters, glitchers, noobs (which isn't a bad thing), and abusers.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. urdead18

how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. soapandbubbles

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. h575309

As far as camping is concerned, its not a good or bad thing. It's just a tactic that can be used by any player. MW2 is a game that has players camping and running out in the open. Camping can reap rewards in any game, including Halo. Give a player a sniper rifle and he can have a great KDR to help his team win a slayer match, by "camping". Also, you're not guaranteed a killstreak by camping in MW2. Killcams are there for a reason. A smart player can take a camper out easily.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. h575309

hmm i just spent the last few hours playing it. I'm not bored but i need to go to bed... I'll probably play it some more tomorrow... I guess what i am trying to say is. I think the game will do fine.. and not to bash the 360 but. besides Fable 3 and GeoW3 what else is there to play within the near future anyway? lol...

[QUOTE="h575309"]

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. Episode_Eve

As far as camping is concerned, its not a good or bad thing. MW2 is a game that has players camping and running out in the open.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] CoD multiplayer is a ton of fun, but still unbalanced. I prefer Halo simply because its not a twitch shooter. The person whos sees you first is not guaranteed a kill (in everything but SWAT anyway). Theres also minimal camping in Halo (in my experience) simply because it generally doesnt reap rewards.

jg4xchamp

As far as camping is concerned, its not a good or bad thing. MW2 is a game that has players camping and running out in the open.

Also, check out my edited post above.

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]didn't over 7 mill buy the game?Stevo_the_gamer

Oh and I throw massive amounts of penalty flags at Kill streaks. Who in bumba **** came up with that idiotic concept. Some dude who's kicking everyones ass....hmm lets reward him/her with something that will let him run up the score even more. Kill streaks should just be what they are. I streak, a nice little emblem saying your whipping ass, but not something you get rewarded for with an advantage to put the other team in a bigger hole. Make the players earn their kills, not given freebies from a chopper, airstrikes, etc. Call it being too much of a purist, close minded, whatever of all the dumb gimmicks MW has, that is KING among them. That **** is for pansies. jg4xchamp

What about other shooters that have vehicles spawning on the map? Who earns that? No one. They're freebies that you can wait to re-spawn. I'm not criticizing Bad Company, Halo, or MW2 for how they present their vehicles. I just understand that it shouldn't be a problem when they can be taken care of.

Edit: With that said, it would be very nice to see team oriented rewards in future COD games.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]That's not the case for MW2 either. Trust me. Obviously, when you have a game that has to adhere to some level of realism, you'll have human target that die quicker.

As far as camping is concerned, its not a good or bad thing. MW2 is a game that has players camping and running out in the open.

Episode_Eve

Also, check out my edited post above.

[QUOTE="h575309"]

how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. soapandbubbles

As far as camping is concerned, its not a good or bad thing. It's just a tactic that can be used by any player. MW2 is a game that has players camping and running out in the open. Camping can reap rewards in any game, including Halo. Give a player a sniper rifle and he can have a great KDR to help his team win a slayer match, by "camping". Also, you're not guaranteed a killstreak by camping in MW2. Killcams are there for a reason. A smart player can take a camper out easily.

how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. soapandbubbles

Sorry. That award goes to Counter-Strike.

But if you're talking consoles only, then yes I agree.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] While it's not often the case, he is right about CoD being more of the twitch shooter. It's a bit more reflex driven, and I don't necessarily look at that as a bad thing(I would kill for another Unreal or Quake). It's just significantly different to Halo brand of action. jg4xchamp

Also, check out my edited post above.

Oh and I throw massive amounts of penalty flags at Kill streaks. Who in bumba **** came up with that idiotic concept. Some dude who's kicking everyones ass....hmm lets reward him/her with something that will let him run up the score even more. Kill streaks should just be what they are. I streak, a nice little emblem saying your whipping ass, but not something you get rewarded for with an advantage to put the other team in a bigger hole. Make the players earn their kills, not given freebies from a chopper, airstrikes, etc. Call it being too much of a purist, close minded, whatever of all the dumb gimmicks MW has, that is KING among them. That **** is for pansies. jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. h575309

Personally this is one of the aspects I hate the most about Halo. I can't count the number of times already in Reach where I had the jump and I completely felt like I dominated the guy and got only HS yet for some reason he was able to live through, turn and wtf own me from full hp. It's incredibly annoying at times.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Oh and I throw massive amounts of penalty flags at Kill streaks. Who in bumba **** came up with that idiotic concept. Some dude who's kicking everyones ass....hmm lets reward him/her with something that will let him run up the score even more. Kill streaks should just be what they are. I streak, a nice little emblem saying your whipping ass, but not something you get rewarded for with an advantage to put the other team in a bigger hole. Make the players earn their kills, not given freebies from a chopper, airstrikes, etc. Call it being too much of a purist, close minded, whatever of all the dumb gimmicks MW has, that is KING among them. That **** is for pansies. mitu123

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Santesyu"]didn't over 7 mill buy the game?Santesyu

Oh and I throw massive amounts of penalty flags at Kill streaks. Who in bumba **** came up with that idiotic concept. Some dude who's kicking everyones ass....hmm lets reward him/her with something that will let him run up the score even more. Kill streaks should just be what they are. I streak, a nice little emblem saying your whipping ass, but not something you get rewarded for with an advantage to put the other team in a bigger hole. Make the players earn their kills, not given freebies from a chopper, airstrikes, etc. Call it being too much of a purist, close minded, whatever of all the dumb gimmicks MW has, that is KING among them. That **** is for pansies. jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] CoD multiplayer is a ton of fun, but still unbalanced. I prefer Halo simply because its not a twitch shooter. The person whos sees you first is not guaranteed a kill (in everything but SWAT anyway). Theres also minimal camping in Halo (in my experience) simply because it generally doesnt reap rewards.

h575309

As far as camping is concerned, its not a good or bad thing. It's just a tactic that can be used by any player. MW2 is a game that has players camping and running out in the open. Camping can reap rewards in any game, including Halo. Give a player a sniper rifle and he can have a great KDR to help his team win a slayer match, by "camping". Also, you're not guaranteed a killstreak by camping in MW2. Killcams are there for a reason. A smart player can take a camper out easily.

[QUOTE="h575309"]

how people like COD is beyond me, it has got to be one of the most unblanced, unrealistic, noobish games out there. No satisfaction, no skill involved. Reach is easily the best and most balancd smooth FPS out there, IMO. Your point is mute, for the simple fact that Halo Reach's gameplay is addictive and will NOT get old... thats's what counts. soapandbubbles

Personally this is one of the aspects I hate the most about Halo. I can't count the number of times already in Reach where I had the jump and I completely felt like I dominated the guy and got only HS yet for some reason he was able to live through, turn and wtf own me from full hp. It's incredibly annoying at times.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Oh and I throw massive amounts of penalty flags at Kill streaks. Who in bumba **** came up with that idiotic concept. Some dude who's kicking everyones ass....hmm lets reward him/her with something that will let him run up the score even more. Kill streaks should just be what they are. I streak, a nice little emblem saying your whipping ass, but not something you get rewarded for with an advantage to put the other team in a bigger hole. Make the players earn their kills, not given freebies from a chopper, airstrikes, etc. Call it being too much of a purist, close minded, whatever of all the dumb gimmicks MW has, that is KING among them. That **** is for pansies. Episode_Eve

What about other shooters that have vehicles spawning on the map? Who earns that? No one. They're freebies that you can wait to re-spawn. I'm not criticizing Bad Company, Halo, or MW2 for how they present their vehicles. I just understand that it shouldn't be a problem when they can be taken care of.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Oh and I throw massive amounts of penalty flags at Kill streaks. Who in bumba **** came up with that idiotic concept. Some dude who's kicking everyones ass....hmm lets reward him/her with something that will let him run up the score even more. Kill streaks should just be what they are. I streak, a nice little emblem saying your whipping ass, but not something you get rewarded for with an advantage to put the other team in a bigger hole. Make the players earn their kills, not given freebies from a chopper, airstrikes, etc. Call it being too much of a purist, close minded, whatever of all the dumb gimmicks MW has, that is KING among them. That **** is for pansies. urdead18

[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] CoD multiplayer is a ton of fun, but still unbalanced. I prefer Halo simply because its not a twitch shooter. The person whos sees you first is not guaranteed a kill (in everything but SWAT anyway). Theres also minimal camping in Halo (in my experience) simply because it generally doesnt reap rewards.

h575309

Personally this is one of the aspects I hate the most about Halo. I can't count the number of times already in Reach where I had the jump and I completely felt like I dominated the guy and got only HS yet for some reason he was able to live through, turn and wtf own me from full hp. It's incredibly annoying at times.

That's stupid. What if I don't have any nades left?

I'm not great at the game but I just feel that in Reach sometimes **** gets way too random when it shouldn't. Armor is dumb.

[QUOTE="h575309"] CoD multiplayer is a ton of fun, but still unbalanced. I prefer Halo simply because its not a twitch shooter. The person whos sees you first is not guaranteed a kill (in everything but SWAT anyway). Theres also minimal camping in Halo (in my experience) simply because it generally doesnt reap rewards.

Personally this is one of the aspects I hate the most about Halo. I can't count the number of times already in Reach where I had the jump and I completely felt like I dominated the guy and got only HS yet for some reason he was able to live through, turn and wtf own me from full hp. It's incredibly annoying at times.

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Pretty much why I don't play COD much if at all.

mitu123

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

Personally this is one of the aspects I hate the most about Halo. I can't count the number of times already in Reach where I had the jump and I completely felt like I dominated the guy and got only HS yet for some reason he was able to live through, turn and wtf own me from full hp. It's incredibly annoying at times.

jg4xchamp

It has more to do with that it takes so many freaking shots to kill someone in this game. So if the guy moves a little and I miss that 1 little extra HS I needed to take that dumb armor off him, he might turn around and own me. Which I find completely ridiculous and nothing to do with skills or not.

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

Personally this is one of the aspects I hate the most about Halo. I can't count the number of times already in Reach where I had the jump and I completely felt like I dominated the guy and got only HS yet for some reason he was able to live through, turn and wtf own me from full hp. It's incredibly annoying at times.

Eggimannd

That's stupid. What if I don't have any nades left?

I'm not great at the game but I just feel that in Reach sometimes **** gets way too random when it shouldn't. Armor is dumb.

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]That's not the case for MW2 either. Trust me. Obviously, when you have a game that has to adhere to some level of realism, you'll have human target that die quicker.

As far as camping is concerned, its not a good or bad thing. It's just a tactic that can be used by any player. MW2 is a game that has players camping and running out in the open. Camping can reap rewards in any game, including Halo. Give a player a sniper rifle and he can have a great KDR to help his team win a slayer match, by "camping". Also, you're not guaranteed a killstreak by camping in MW2. Killcams are there for a reason. A smart player can take a camper out easily.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="h575309"] This is just a case of you getting owned though. If you have the jump on somebody and halo and dont win, its because you werent using your grenades right. Eggimannd

It has more to do with that it takes so many freaking shots to kill someone in this game. So if the guy moves a little and I miss that 1 little extra HS I needed to take that dumb armor off him, he might turn around and own me. Which I find completely ridiculous and nothing to do with skills or not.

[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] This is just a case of you getting owned though. If you have the jump on somebody and halo and dont win, its because you werent using your grenades right. jg4xchamp

That's stupid. What if I don't have any nades left?

I'm not great at the game but I just feel that in Reach sometimes **** gets way too random when it shouldn't. Armor is dumb.

I don't know of any other FPS I've played that takes as many shots to kill someone as it does in Halo. How is that a weak example?

[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I would never use a grenade on a guy I have the advantage on :P But yeah that's just sloppy play on your part, or a nice move on their part. Listen if you got the jump on them, and they pulled a good enough grenade bounce(because 9 times out of 10 you're going to over shoot that grenade) and then popped you in the face. It's fair game that he got you. Most of the times if you get the jump on someone you should be able to kill them. Hell melee, face shot, teabag(what you know you do it)jg4xchamp

It has more to do with that it takes so many freaking shots to kill someone in this game. So if the guy moves a little and I miss that 1 little extra HS I needed to take that dumb armor off him, he might turn around and own me. Which I find completely ridiculous and nothing to do with skills or not.

I'm not missing. I'm just not used to having to shoot a guy like 4 times with the DRM just to get his freaking armor off and then HS to kill him.