think you forgot about the jet pack. just a lil more cool then "diving"
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There was stealth in Reach? When did that happen?I just finished Reach and while I did like the BO storyline because it was like a thriller movie, I liked Reach better. It waas longer, I liked the chracters, and the story was nice. The pacing wasexcellent. And the variety was good too, on the ground, in space, flying in space, flying in the air, on rails shooting in the air, stealth (although not done very well).It felt fresh after getting through ODST.
Hatiko
[QUOTE="balfe1990"]
[QUOTE="shahilsyed"] It's not, what is it?gamer620
Heres a clue, the better game starts with an "R" and ends with an "EACH".
Hope that helped.
Ironically Black Ops does more over its predecessors than Halo Reach does... Seriously... go back to Halo 3 or ODST and count the number of new features from them to reach. Then do the same for black ops... Ill do it for youBlack Ops: Dive
CreditsSystem
Hourly Contracts
Wager Matches (Which bring 3 new game modes to the core product )
Theater Mode (which is brand new to the franchise)
Dead Ops
Halo Reach:
Credit system
Daily and Weekly Challenges
Armor Abilities
Invasion mode
Firefight matchmaking and Firefight Versus modes + Score Attack mode
Co-op matchmaking
Forge World
Headhunter
Stockpile
Elite Slayer
While theater mode is something halo has had for a while now for the last 3 games? it is NEW to the CoD series making it NOT a rehashed idea for CoD. Im not saying one is better than the other, but one is certainly more of a rehash than the other, and it is NOT the one you assume.
Went ahead and fixed that for you.
It's not, what is it?[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]
Work it out, its a fairly simple riddle man.
balfe1990
Heres a clue, the better game starts with an "R" and ends with an "EACH".
Hope that helped.
Well, ones Call of Duty, and the other is Halo...so I'm still confused. That being said Black ops is superiorIncomparable games. Black Ops is more of a demo than a game. It's 2 hour campaign sucks and then after that you play the multiplayer and its basically a graphically better version of duck hunt. Game sucks majorly.
....:lol: You should be a comedian. Seriously you should. :|Incomparable games. Black Ops is more of a demo than a game. It's 2 hour campaign sucks and then after that you play the multiplayer and its basically a graphically better version of duck hunt. Game sucks majorly.
Heirren
[QUOTE="balfe1990"]
A well polished, solid, quality game vs. recycled, rehashed rubbish.
No Contest.
ChubbyGuy40
I agree. Black Ops > Reach by far.
That made me laugh out loud :lol:you wouldn't say that if you did thisthink you forgot about the jet pack. just a lil more cool then "diving"
Elementguy13
I like Halo's brand of action more. Bungie should however let me alter the playlists for them because they suck at it :Pjg4xchampAgreed on Halo's brand of action. That said, They're getting better at the playlist thing. Though it usually only happens after the community b****** and moans for while.
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I like Halo's brand of action more. Bungie should however let me alter the playlists for them because they suck at it :PDarkLink77Agreed on Halo's brand of action. That said, They're getting better at the playlist thing. Though it usually only happens after the community b****** and moans for while. eh somethings they just don't get. like Armor Lock should be moved to Team Objective only, and Drop Shield should be added to slayer. Drop Shield is fair for a slayer format, and isn't cheap the way it's used in CTF. INvasion Slayer should be dropped entirely. It's a terrible a game mode. Boneyard and Spire shouldn't even be used in BTB. They are clearly built for Invasion and it shows when you try to do other game modes on them. If they have to keep one. Keep Spire. Boneyard is just awful. Especially with the way they placed the Scorpion and Banshee on the map. I mean really Bungie? really? Right BTB also should never have Stockpile. It's fun in 4 v 4. Terrible in 8 v 8. Team Headhunter is god awful. Headhunter is fun as a free for all mode. It's choatic, messy, and random it works for Rumble Pit. Make it coordinated and it just really feels lifeless and stupid. Big Team Snipers sucks. Mostly because of corner shots, but still BTB snipers is wack. ..and I like to snipe. The Scorpions need to be removed from Paradiso. That map is horrid as it is, but it might be playable if the Scorpion wasn't there, and maybe a second Spartan Laser wouldn't hurt. Oh right Countdown is a terrible Swat map and should never show up in Swat. BTB on Atom is stupid. Team Slayer on Atom is fun though. Team oddball, CTF, or assualt? yeah....no. Oh and their new map pack should be free, way to go Bungie you poopy heads. At the least it better be free at a later period, because i want to have gamenights on Anchor 9. That map is fun :x
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I like Halo's brand of action more. Bungie should however let me alter the playlists for them because they suck at it :Pjg4xchampAgreed on Halo's brand of action. That said, They're getting better at the playlist thing. Though it usually only happens after the community b****** and moans for while. eh somethings they just don't get. like Armor Lock should be moved to Team Objective only, and Drop Shield should be added to slayer. Drop Shield is fair for a slayer format, and isn't cheap the way it's used in CTF. INvasion Slayer should be dropped entirely. It's a terrible a game mode. Boneyard and Spire shouldn't even be used in BTB. They are clearly built for Invasion and it shows when you try to do other game modes on them. If they have to keep one. Keep Spire. Boneyard is just awful. Especially with the way they placed the Scorpion and Banshee on the map. I mean really Bungie? really? Right BTB also should never have Stockpile. It's fun in 4 v 4. Terrible in 8 v 8. Team Headhunter is god awful. Headhunter is fun as a free for all mode. It's choatic, messy, and random it works for Rumble Pit. Make it coordinated and it just really feels lifeless and stupid. Big Team Snipers sucks. Mostly because of corner shots, but still BTB snipers is wack. ..and I like to snipe. The Scorpions need to be removed from Paradiso. That map is horrid as it is, but it might be playable if the Scorpion wasn't there, and maybe a second Spartan Laser wouldn't hurt. Oh right Countdown is a terrible Swat map and should never show up in Swat. BTB on Atom is stupid. Team Slayer on Atom is fun though. Team oddball, CTF, or assualt? yeah....no. Oh and their new map pack should be free, way to go Bungie you poopy heads. At the least it better be free at a later period, because i want to have gamenights on Anchor 9. That map is fun :x Agreed to the max about armor lock and drop shield, and invasion slayer. Does anyone even play that? I played one match in the beta and died a little inside. Also agreed on the Invasion maps. Disagree on Team Headhunter, though. I have a lot of fun playing that. Paradiso is gonna suck no matter what you do with it, and Team Snipers in general is awful (and I also like to snipe).
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Agreed on Halo's brand of action. That said, They're getting better at the playlist thing. Though it usually only happens after the community b****** and moans for while.DarkLink77eh somethings they just don't get. like Armor Lock should be moved to Team Objective only, and Drop Shield should be added to slayer. Drop Shield is fair for a slayer format, and isn't cheap the way it's used in CTF. INvasion Slayer should be dropped entirely. It's a terrible a game mode. Boneyard and Spire shouldn't even be used in BTB. They are clearly built for Invasion and it shows when you try to do other game modes on them. If they have to keep one. Keep Spire. Boneyard is just awful. Especially with the way they placed the Scorpion and Banshee on the map. I mean really Bungie? really? Right BTB also should never have Stockpile. It's fun in 4 v 4. Terrible in 8 v 8. Team Headhunter is god awful. Headhunter is fun as a free for all mode. It's choatic, messy, and random it works for Rumble Pit. Make it coordinated and it just really feels lifeless and stupid. Big Team Snipers sucks. Mostly because of corner shots, but still BTB snipers is wack. ..and I like to snipe. The Scorpions need to be removed from Paradiso. That map is horrid as it is, but it might be playable if the Scorpion wasn't there, and maybe a second Spartan Laser wouldn't hurt. Oh right Countdown is a terrible Swat map and should never show up in Swat. BTB on Atom is stupid. Team Slayer on Atom is fun though. Team oddball, CTF, or assualt? yeah....no. Oh and their new map pack should be free, way to go Bungie you poopy heads. At the least it better be free at a later period, because i want to have gamenights on Anchor 9. That map is fun :x Agreed to the max about armor lock and drop shield, and invasion slayer. Does anyone even play that? I played one match in the beta and died a little inside. Also agreed on the Invasion maps. Disagree on Team Headhunter, though. I have a lot of fun playing that. Paradiso is gonna suck no matter what you do with it, and Team Snipers in general is awful (and I also like to snipe).Team Snipers is frickin' awesome, I dunno what you're talking about... Paradiso does suck though.
Coming from a a Hard core Halo Fanboy since 2001 I'm going to vote BO. The campaign in Reach is better, but I like BO multi much more. I prefer Halo 3 to both by a wide wide margin, and I hated MW2.
Reach is far better. Black Ops I stopped playing after two days, and I started play multiplayer only on the second day. After reaching level 17 I just thought, "This is boring. I played this game in 2007, all I can do is attach a few more useless attachments and buy them. Yay for that." Then I played Zombies. "Still a lot of fun, but again, I played this in 2008, hardly anything different." The campaign I liked, but way too over the top. So yeah...
On a side-note: I am getting sick of reviewers taking points away from a game when they think it's too much of the same, but when it comes to Call of Duty, they praise it. Almost every reviewer seems to not understand what make a game unbalanced and what doesn't too.
Call of Duty is not garbage. I loved the first two gamesand liked COD4, but the other games (except MW2...and maybe COD3) are atleast good. But yes, since COD4 it has been the same thing year after year and that's why it's gotten stale and boring for me.Reach is way better i love The online Best halo since Halo 1 . COD is garbage and the fanboys are so blind that they buy the same thing each Year but to each their own , and plus Black ops is atleast better than MW2 i will admit that.
SpArKs424
Call of Duty is not garbage. I loved the first two gamesand liked COD4, but the other games (except MW2...and maybe COD3) are atleast good. But yes, since COD4 it has been the same thing year after year and that's why it's gotten stale and boring for me.Cod 4 was the last Cod i enjoyed COD 2 and COD 4 Legendary games the rest haves sucked IMO (but dont let my opinion make you angry just cause i dont like the game ). i just Prefer Halo the Online is fantastic ive met alot of good Friends that are not 12 year old kids BTW .[QUOTE="SpArKs424"]
Reach is way better i love The online Best halo since Halo 1 . COD is garbage and the fanboys are so blind that they buy the same thing each Year but to each their own , and plus Black ops is atleast better than MW2 i will admit that.
Avian005
Ironically Black Ops does more over its predecessors than Halo Reach does... Seriously... go back to Halo 3 or ODST and count the number of new features from them to reach. Then do the same for black ops... Ill do it for you[QUOTE="gamer620"]
[QUOTE="balfe1990"]
Heres a clue, the better game starts with an "R" and ends with an "EACH".
Hope that helped.
Ninja-Hippo
Black Ops: Dive
CreditsSystem
Hourly Contracts
Wager Matches (Which bring 3 new game modes to the core product )
Theater Mode (which is brand new to the franchise)
Dead Ops
Halo Reach:
Credit system
Daily and Weekly Challenges
Armor Abilities
Invasion mode
Firefight matchmaking and Firefight Versus modes + Score Attack mode
Co-op matchmaking
Forge World
Headhunter
Stockpile
Elite Slayer
While theater mode is something halo has had for a while now for the last 3 games? it is NEW to the CoD series making it NOT a rehashed idea for CoD. Im not saying one is better than the other, but one is certainly more of a rehash than the other, and it is NOT the one you assume.
Went ahead and fixed that for you.
Matchmaking is nothing new even if its used for OLD modes like firefight or Co-op, you are still playing the same old REHASHED game modes, Forgeworld is a LEVEL designed for use in FORGE which was introduced in Halo 3 and Elite slayer is slayer with Elites... not sure how slayer with elites and covenant weapons makes Slayer any different from what it was before... seeing as I could play slayer AS AN ELITE with COVENANT weapons any time i wanted to before, but seeing as I included the wager matches for Black Ops which actually ADDED fresh new gametypes to the series, Ill give you Headhunter and Stockpile... Technically, If i really wanted to, seeing as you INDIVIDUALLY list Headhunter and Stockpile, I can INDIVIDUALLY list One in the Chamber, the Gun Game and Sticks and Stones... and oh look... Blackops is further padded in the same manner you padded Halo Reach..And I guess I can ALSO pad my Black Ops list with the Emblem Editor... which once again is NEW to the franchise. Black ops is STILL the fresher title.. go figure?
[QUOTE="balfe1990"]
[QUOTE="shahilsyed"] It's not, what is it?gamer620
Heres a clue, the better game starts with an "R" and ends with an "EACH".
Hope that helped.
Ironically Black Ops does more over its predecessors than Halo Reach does... Seriously... go back to Halo 3 or ODST and count the number of new features from them to reach. Then do the same for black ops... Ill do it for youBlack Ops: Dive
CreditsSystem
Hourly Contracts
Wager Matches (Which bring 3 new game modes to the core product )
Theater Mode (which is brand new to the franchise)
Dead Ops
Halo Reach:
Credit system
Daily and Weekly Challenges
Perks(arguably the largest different in the game but when it comes down to it, is just a replacement for putting items in the levels)
Invasion mode...
While theater mode is something halo has had for a while now for the last 3 games? it is NEW to the CoD series making it NOT a rehashed idea for CoD. Im not saying one is better than the other, but one is certainly more of a rehash than the other, and it is NOT the one you assume.
Hmm, you have a point there, though bots in Black Ops are a plus too.[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]
[QUOTE="gamer620"] Ironically Black Ops does more over its predecessors than Halo Reach does... Seriously... go back to Halo 3 or ODST and count the number of new features from them to reach. Then do the same for black ops... Ill do it for you
Black Ops: Dive
CreditsSystem
Hourly Contracts
Wager Matches (Which bring 3 new game modes to the core product )
Theater Mode (which is brand new to the franchise)
Dead Ops
Halo Reach:
Credit system
Daily and Weekly Challenges
Armor Abilities
Invasion mode
Firefight matchmaking and Firefight Versus modes + Score Attack mode
Co-op matchmaking
Forge World
Headhunter
Stockpile
Elite Slayer
While theater mode is something halo has had for a while now for the last 3 games? it is NEW to the CoD series making it NOT a rehashed idea for CoD. Im not saying one is better than the other, but one is certainly more of a rehash than the other, and it is NOT the one you assume.
gamer620
Went ahead and fixed that for you.
Matchmaking is nothing new even if its used for OLD modes like firefight or Co-op, you are still playing the same old REHASHED game modes, Forgeworld is a LEVEL designed for use in FORGE which was introduced in Halo 3 and Elite slayer is slayer with Elites... not sure how slayer with elites and covenant weapons makes Slayer any different from what it was before... seeing as I could play slayer AS AN ELITE with COVENANT weapons any time i wanted to before, but seeing as I included the wager matches for Black Ops which actually ADDED fresh new gametypes to the series, Ill give you Headhunter and Stockpile... Technically, If i really wanted to, seeing as you INDIVIDUALLY list Headhunter and Stockpile, I can INDIVIDUALLY list One in the Chamber, the Gun Game and Sticks and Stones... and oh look... Blackops is further padded in the same manner you padded Halo Reach..And I guess I can ALSO pad my Black Ops list with the Emblem Editor... which once again is NEW to the franchise. Black ops is STILL the fresher title.. go figure?
are you actually arguing that BO is fresh? Fine.
firefight matchmaking completely changes the game. without it, firefight would not be as it is. Forge world is something NEVER seen before. It doesn't matter if its designed around the forge(which is drastically improved from halo 3). I can say that any shooter is rehashed because its based around shooting. Elite slayer is different in a few ways, as you're healt regenerates, you start of with covie weapons and abilities, your melee is slightly stronger, and your sheilds are stronger too.
Also, firefight is much fresher than BO. Bos is the exact same thing as WAW(in fact i prefer WAWs) while firefight in reach is so much better and varied than ODSTs that ODSTs looks like an alpha version.
And, all of BOs "new" things have already been used in other games(mostly from halo lol). while halo has a few things that you can't find on any other FPS.
you wouldn't say that if you did this[QUOTE="Elementguy13"]
think you forgot about the jet pack. just a lil more cool then "diving"
antifanboyftw
thats cool. but as cool as this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCoY9v38RXw
no.
you wouldn't say that if you did this[QUOTE="antifanboyftw"]
[QUOTE="Elementguy13"]
think you forgot about the jet pack. just a lil more cool then "diving"
Elementguy13
thats cool. but as cool as this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCoY9v38RXw
no.
Thats fantastic :o
Reach has many epic moments than BO can only dream about!
[QUOTE="Elementguy13"]
[QUOTE="antifanboyftw"] you wouldn't say that if you did this
PAL360
thats cool. but as cool as this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCoY9v38RXw
no.
Thats fantastic :o
Reach has many epic moments than BO can only dream about!
Nothing is epic about auto-aim. So none of those videos are "epic." Easily impressed? :?[QUOTE="PAL360"][QUOTE="Elementguy13"]
thats cool. but as cool as this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCoY9v38RXw
no.
millerlight89
Thats fantastic :o
Reach has many epic moments than BO can only dream about!
Nothing is epic about auto-aim. So none of those videos are "epic." Easily impressed? :?Well, that´s the problem of most console shooters!
I'll refrain from making remarks on the behalf of Black Ops as I have not played it. I will, however, say that the integration of Bnet to Reach is the single most impressive aspect of the game. Having every single stat and little detail meticulously tracked and viewable in one place is phenomenal.
Reach might be the better game for what it does to the series & community features, but..
I much preferred BO.
Campaign wise I felt Reach's high points were higher, but BO was much more action packed and lacking boring parts(aka average was higher).
I felt the space battle sequence in Reach was painfully boring also for all its hype.
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