halo Reach will tear Killzone 3 into subatomic particles

Why are you comparing them? lolmusicalmac

I agree with most of your points but I don't believe Reach will have better graphics then Killzone 3. Then again, most people don't play Halo for good graphics.

Killzone 2 was the cows version of Perfect Dark Zero for the lems, both were overrated.

Thus don't even try to compare Killzone to Halo,KZ isnot even in the same league.

Halo3 had horrible controls. I've played Mw2 on xbox360, I picked up the controller and played perfectly. I've played BF:BC2 on 360, picked up the controller and I knew how to play. However this was not the case with Halo3. I didn't get any of it. the layout was terrible. As for graphics, Killzone 2 is one of the top3 best looking games on consoles and top10 overall with PC games included. it wipes the floor with anything on 360. As for Halo Reach graphics... I have ps2 games that look better than it, stop trolling.

Wow dude, Halo has the best control scheme of all time.

And as far as KZ graphics, lighting is awesome, everything else is meh at best.

likely, whats funny is all the footage shown for killzone 3 seems to show its copied most of its new ideas from the earliest footage of halo reach, jetpacks, new melee attack system...ect

WilliamRLBaker

Wow dude, Halo has the best control scheme of all time.

And as far as KZ graphics, lighting is awesome, everything else is meh at best.

-Ninja_Dog-

The game was incredibly good,i know people want defend Halo,but the true is Killzone 2 out did Halo 3 in many ways,not just graphics to the point where many journalist say Killzone 2 raised the bar for FPS.

The AI was better than any Halo game tuff,smart,the controls i never had a problem with,not all FPS should play alike,just like Mario and Sonic never played alike,that did not mean any of the 2 had bad controls,Killzone 2 was a marster piece it was everything the first killzone should have been in the first place.

Now i don't agree with him Halo did not had horrible control in any way,but it fell flotty and mostly unlreal to me,well not that is should be he is a space marine with and armor on other planet,but Killzone 2 feel was more like a true soldier,enemy's dies in a much much real way,and reacted acordingly to where they were hit with bullets,something not all FPS achieve.

Over all the 2 games were good one can continue to have this argument for ever,but the 2 had things one over the other.

Killzone 2 was the cows version of Perfect Dark Zero for the lems, both were overrated.

Thus don't even try to compare Killzone to Halo,KZ isnot even in the same league.

-Ninja_Dog-

I think everyone knows Halo Reach will be the better game, even as much as some would hate to admit that, Bungie is just way better,

[QUOTE="Cook1eMonst3r"]lets put aside our inner fanboyism bobbetybob

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Historical facts? I'm sorry, but those are all opinions, excluding sales (I don't even know if your sales statement is true either as you provided no link, but I'm too lazy to look it up).

Cook1eMonst3r

Sales = Fact (There is no denying how many something sells)

Quality = Opinion

Score = Opinion (Scores are based off reviews, which are opinions)

agree with all but the graphics are split reach may have better models and skyboxes and textures but killzone 3 well it's not finished and we havent seen the Finished product on reach in Single player in HD so we are going to have to wait...... Reachs sniper Beats killzones Sniper tho

I think everyone knows Halo Reach will be the better game, even as much as some would hate to admit that, Bungie is just way better,

ethanradd

lol..:)

All that without even playing a minute of any of the 2 games.

[QUOTE="ethanradd"]

I think everyone knows Halo Reach will be the better game, even as much as some would hate to admit that, Bungie is just way better,

Eltormo

lol..:)

All that without even playing a minute of any of the 2 games.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]likely, whats funny is all the footage shown for killzone 3 seems to show its copied most of its new ideas from the earliest footage of halo reach, jetpacks, new melee attack system...ectAznKSor

i agree completely

thats alright if halo beats killzone it sure wont beat goldeneye007 wii , or timesplitters 4 (future perfect 2)

or blood stone 007, haahah

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Cook1eMonst3r"] Master Chief is considered one of the greatest characters in gaming history by gamers.tomarlyn

Does anyone else imagine the **** storm that would be this place if Halo reach gets a 8.5?

Does anyone else imagine the **** storm that would be this place if Halo reach gets a 8.5?

XboximusPrime

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Does anyone else imagine the **** storm that would be this place if Halo reach gets a 8.5?

nervmeister

yea but kane and lynch was soooooo bad

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Does anyone else imagine the **** storm that would be this place if Halo reach gets a 8.5?

yea but kane and lynch was soooooo bad

thats alright if halo beats killzone it sure wont beat goldeneye007 wii , or timesplitters 4 (future perfect 2)

or blood stone 007, haahah

mariokart64fan

Come on, kid, stop being so delusional and admit that Goldeneye is outdated and the new version will just be a quick nostalgia cash-in by Activision..

@nervmeister No, by that logic, Liberation copied Halo first, since jetpacks weren't usable in that game, and Halo 2 had jetpacks, which came before KZ Liberation We could do this all night.

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] Show me a GS reviewer who's willing to honestly score a Bungie-made Halo game less than AAA and I'll show you someone who's going to get fired. Kane & Lynch, anyone?nervmeister

yea but kane and lynch was soooooo bad

That just means it was so bad that it was worth his job! lol

Sorry cow's but your generic clunky controlling shooter cant match halo in anything.Sp4rtan_3

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Gordan Freeman has no substance, he is a blank canvas, he does not exist, he has no ''character''.N30F3N1X

I'm not saying that he doesn't.

I'm critizing you for saying that like the other characters in the contest that made it almost as far as him were any better.

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Sorry cow's but your generic clunky controlling shooter cant match halo in anything.nervmeister

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Sorry cow's but your generic clunky controlling shooter cant match halo in anything.nervmeister

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Sorry cow's but your generic clunky controlling shooter cant match halo in anything.Sp4rtan_3

Wow man. Just....wow.

Wow man. Just....wow.

Darth-Samus

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Sorry cow's but your generic clunky controlling shooter cant match halo in anything.Sp4rtan_3

Halo's story and Universe made it VERY cliche for me. It's basic sci-fi setting. I worked in a book prcessing plant for a few years, and we would get art books for art colleges all the time, and everything that's in Halo has been done before, only 10x better. Heck, even the Ring-World idea was already done many years ago.

Now, I'm not saying Killzone is any less generic when it comes to it's universe, but no one is trying to say it's original in any way.

[QUOTE="designer-"][QUOTE="Cook1eMonst3r"] Sales, scores and quality Halo destroyes Killzone 3Cook1eMonst3r

Halo3 had horrible controls. I've played Mw2 on xbox360, I picked up the controller and played perfectly. I've played BF:BC2 on 360, picked up the controller and I knew how to play. However this was not the case with Halo3. I didn't get any of it. the layout was terrible. As for graphics, Killzone 2 is one of the top3 best looking games on consoles and top10 overall with PC games included. it wipes the floor with anything on 360. As for Halo Reach graphics... I have ps2 games that look better than it, stop trolling.-Ninja_Dog-

Wow dude, Halo has the best control scheme of all time.

And as far as KZ graphics, lighting is awesome, everything else is meh at best.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Does anyone else imagine the **** storm that would be this place if Halo reach gets a 8.5?

nervmeister

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="nervmeister"] KZ2's controls, despite their unorthodox design, are far from clunky. And as much as you may hate to admit it, Halo is every bit as "generic" as Killzone. And no, a fancy map editor isn't going to change thatxYamatox

Halo's story and Universe made it VERY cliche for me. It's basic sci-fi setting. I worked in a book prcessing plant for a few years, and we would get art books for art colleges all the time, and everything that's in Halo has been done before, only 10x better. Heck, even the Ring-World idea was already done many years ago.

Now, I'm not saying Killzone is any less generic when it comes to it's universe, but no one is trying to say it's original in any way.

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] Halo's story and universe make is not generic to me. KZ2's controls felt very clunky and unresponsive when I gave it a try I cant imagine how it must be during competitive play :? Its so deep an vibrant way better and more fleshed out then KZ's generic "gritty real world' universe.Sp4rtan_3

Halo's story and Universe made it VERY cliche for me. It's basic sci-fi setting. I worked in a book prcessing plant for a few years, and we would get art books for art colleges all the time, and everything that's in Halo has been done before, only 10x better. Heck, even the Ring-World idea was already done many years ago.

Now, I'm not saying Killzone is any less generic when it comes to it's universe, but no one is trying to say it's original in any way.

If the story and lore is not present in the actual games, it's not valid. The majority of gamers are NOT going to purchase a book to get a story out of a videogame, and even such, the lore behind the game isn't even Bungie's doing. If you only play Halo: CE, 2, 3 and ODTS, there isn't much there to be desired.

Please don't try to use the, "But-but-but...Halo has BOOKS!" card. Anyone could make a Killzone novel that could be on par or better than Halo's universe, but it wouldn't matter because the story isn't present in the actual game itself. It's like saying Superman 64 has the best story in videogames, because of the comics that it's based on.

Sorry cow's but your generic clunky controlling shooter cant match halo in anything. Sp4rtan_3

If you base it on historical facts, then you should know that KZ2 improved extremely much on it's predecessor. So why shouldn't KZ3?

Also, these are only opinions(excluding sells) of why it will be better than KZ2, not KZ3.