Halo: Reach won't be that good, it won't score AAA

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#101 MC3887
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If people are getting bored of Halo, why is Halo 3 still--after two years--number 2 on XBL? Just within the past twenty-four hours, over 617K people have gone online in Halo 3.Stevo_the_gamer
Halo 3 will be back on top after MW2 come down a little lol.. like it was after MW1.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]If people are getting bored of Halo, why is Halo 3 still--after two years--number 2 on XBL? Just within the past twenty-four hours, over 617K people have gone online in Halo 3.MC3887
Halo 3 will be back on top after MW2 come down a little lol.. like it was after MW1.

As much as i prefer Halo over MW mp wise, i really doubt. Last time i played MW2 online, like 3 days ago there were almost 1 million ppl playing it at the same time. Incredible numbers

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[QUOTE="kweeni"]halo fans should look to other games a bit more. they think it's all about halo, but they're wrong. there are so many other, better, games to buy. but i guess they're just pissed since nearly all of their "exclusives" are actually multiplat, so they descide to just stick to playing one game...how sad.AxlRoseIsMyDad
:| it's their ****ing money, they can buy and play what ever the hell they want, why post something as stupid as this?

Agree with you there. If your a fan of a game why spend money on something you might not like instead of something you will definialy like.

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#104 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]If people are getting bored of Halo, why is Halo 3 still--after two years--number 2 on XBL? Just within the past twenty-four hours, over 617K people have gone online in Halo 3.PAL360

Halo 3 will be back on top after MW2 come down a little lol.. like it was after MW1.

As much as i prefer Halo over MW mp wise, i really doubt. Last time i played MW2 online, like 3 days ago there were almost 1 million ppl playing it at the same time. Incredible numbers

Same thing when halo was released, they'll be back, they always come back.
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Its going to be AAAE at least ........ im actually predicting a AAAAE because it Bungie's last Halo game and it looks to be a gritty and dirty Halo ......... which is AWESOME. SparkyProtocol
I've been wanting a game based off of Reach since 2006. (I know Fall of Reach came out in 01 just before Halo CE :()

this game was actually rumored to be coming out on the last xbox, i remember reading about it in OXM just before the 360 came out, didn't hear anything about it after that till this year, i am glad they waited and didn't do an xbox version, this game will rock on the 360, it's bungies last halo game, and i know they are going out with a bang
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I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.
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#107 MC3887
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I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.Adrian_Cloud
Halo:reach has much more going on than the games you mentioned, and the graphics still look great. How is halo wars showing that people are sick of halo? Its an RTS lol AND it scored and average of AA on metacritic and GR. ODST, well I agree deserves AA not AAA but resistance 2 got AAA so anything can happen. 200k+ people are on halo at any given time, even right after the MW2 release. So, how many people are on the games you play?
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.MC3887
Halo:reach has much more going on than the games you mentioned, and the graphics still look great. How is halo wars showing that people are sick of halo? Its an RTS lol AND it scored and average of AA on metacritic and GR. ODST, well I agree deserves AA not AAA but resistance 2 got AAA so anything can happen. 200k+ people are on halo at any given time, even right after the MW2 release. So, how many people are on the games you play?

Your kidding yourself halo reach will offer just as much as ODST did. Its going to be lack luster. The sales have gone down tremendously. Resistance 2 getting AAA was another mistake of reviewers falling victim to hype. Even Insomniac wasn't satisfied with the game after their fans showed their discontent.. Halo is fun, but its not AAA material. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people playing MW2,SFIV on PS3. Whats your point?

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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.Adrian_Cloud

Halo:reach has much more going on than the games you mentioned, and the graphics still look great. How is halo wars showing that people are sick of halo? Its an RTS lol AND it scored and average of AA on metacritic and GR. ODST, well I agree deserves AA not AAA but resistance 2 got AAA so anything can happen. 200k+ people are on halo at any given time, even right after the MW2 release. So, how many people are on the games you play?

Your kidding yourself halo reach will offer just as much as ODST did. Its going to be lack luster. The sales have gone down tremendously. Resistance 2 getting AAA was another mistake of reviewers falling victim to hype. Even Insomniac wasn't satisfied with the game after their fans showed their discontent.. Halo is fun, but its not AAA material. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people playing MW2,SFIV on PS3. Whats your point?

Lol, you say that you don't know how ODST got AAA, then backtrack and say it will not offer as much, make up your mind! My point was that you saying that people are getting tired of halo when there is probably 200K+ on right now. Also, the sales for halo wars was because everyone knew it was a rts= no hype. Esp. since it is not made by bungie. Also with ODST people knew they were doing a weaker spin-off. People do know however that Reach is the next big deal. Kinda like how all the treyarch CODs get way less hype and sales vs. the IW ones.
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lulz this thread just won't die xD
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"] Halo:reach has much more going on than the games you mentioned, and the graphics still look great. How is halo wars showing that people are sick of halo? Its an RTS lol AND it scored and average of AA on metacritic and GR. ODST, well I agree deserves AA not AAA but resistance 2 got AAA so anything can happen. 200k+ people are on halo at any given time, even right after the MW2 release. So, how many people are on the games you play?MC3887

Your kidding yourself halo reach will offer just as much as ODST did. Its going to be lack luster. The sales have gone down tremendously. Resistance 2 getting AAA was another mistake of reviewers falling victim to hype. Even Insomniac wasn't satisfied with the game after their fans showed their discontent.. Halo is fun, but its not AAA material. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people playing MW2,SFIV on PS3. Whats your point?

Lol, you say that you don't know how ODST got AAA, then backtrack and say it will not offer as much, make up your mind! My point was that you saying that people are getting tired of halo when there is probably 200K+ on right now. Also, the sales for halo wars was because everyone knew it was a rts= no hype. Esp. since it is not made by bungie. Also with ODST people knew they were doing a weaker spin-off. People do know however that Reach is the next big deal. Kinda like how all the treyarch CODs get way less hype and sales vs. the IW ones.

Im not backtracking at all, when i say it will offer as much as ODST i'm not using it as a positive. lol. ODST sales have also gone down. People are getting tired of halo because its turned into one of those every year franchise. A weaker spin off somehow managed to get AAA, that just shows the flaws in reviews. If halo 3 was the big ting for the fanchise after HAlo 2, then i'm not optimistic about REach. Halo 3 was a flop on so many levels yet reviews just jumped on it. I understand its a fun game and all, but not AAA material. Next year you have Bioshock 2, Brink, God of War III, Mafia II, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, The Last Guardian, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising, Max Payne 3, Agent,etc. Halo Reach is irrelevant, i really hope reviewers don't bite into the hype again. Just review games with honesty and integrity, that should be all reviewers new years resolution.
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#112 MC3887
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Your kidding yourself halo reach will offer just as much as ODST did. Its going to be lack luster. The sales have gone down tremendously. Resistance 2 getting AAA was another mistake of reviewers falling victim to hype. Even Insomniac wasn't satisfied with the game after their fans showed their discontent.. Halo is fun, but its not AAA material. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people playing MW2,SFIV on PS3. Whats your point?Adrian_Cloud
Lol, you say that you don't know how ODST got AAA, then backtrack and say it will not offer as much, make up your mind! My point was that you saying that people are getting tired of halo when there is probably 200K+ on right now. Also, the sales for halo wars was because everyone knew it was a rts= no hype. Esp. since it is not made by bungie. Also with ODST people knew they were doing a weaker spin-off. People do know however that Reach is the next big deal. Kinda like how all the treyarch CODs get way less hype and sales vs. the IW ones.

Im not backtracking at all, when i say it will offer as much as ODST i'm not using it as a positive. lol. ODST sales have also gone down. People are getting tired of halo because its turned into one of those every year franchise. A weaker spin off somehow managed to get AAA, that just shows the flaws in reviews. If halo 3 was the big ting for the fanchise after HAlo 2, then i'm not optimistic about REach. Halo 3 was a flop on so many levels yet reviews just jumped on it. I understand its a fun game and all, but not AAA material. Next year you have Bioshock 2, Brink, God of War III, Mafia II, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, The Last Guardian, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising, Max Payne 3, Agent,etc. Halo Reach is irrelevant, i really hope reviewers don't bite into the hype again. Just review games with honesty and integrity, that should be all reviewers new years resolution.

Lol COD is one of those games that come out every year and sales go UP. I personally think halo deserves its AAA status, its called opinions buddy, someone could say they thought MGS4 is garbage and not worthy of even an A it works both ways buddy.. Also halo wars was a result of MS being greedy and wasn't made by bungie. ODST was bungie doing it for the hardcore fans/MS. The next real game in the series is coming three years later, right on track.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You wish Reach wouldn't do good, but you and I know it will be Amazazing.

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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="MC3887"] Lol, you say that you don't know how ODST got AAA, then backtrack and say it will not offer as much, make up your mind! My point was that you saying that people are getting tired of halo when there is probably 200K+ on right now. Also, the sales for halo wars was because everyone knew it was a rts= no hype. Esp. since it is not made by bungie. Also with ODST people knew they were doing a weaker spin-off. People do know however that Reach is the next big deal. Kinda like how all the treyarch CODs get way less hype and sales vs. the IW ones.

Im not backtracking at all, when i say it will offer as much as ODST i'm not using it as a positive. lol. ODST sales have also gone down. People are getting tired of halo because its turned into one of those every year franchise. A weaker spin off somehow managed to get AAA, that just shows the flaws in reviews. If halo 3 was the big ting for the fanchise after HAlo 2, then i'm not optimistic about REach. Halo 3 was a flop on so many levels yet reviews just jumped on it. I understand its a fun game and all, but not AAA material. Next year you have Bioshock 2, Brink, God of War III, Mafia II, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, The Last Guardian, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising, Max Payne 3, Agent,etc. Halo Reach is irrelevant, i really hope reviewers don't bite into the hype again. Just review games with honesty and integrity, that should be all reviewers new years resolution.

Lol COD is one of those games that come out every year and sales go UP. I personally think halo deserves its AAA status, its called opinions buddy, someone could say they thought MGS4 is garbage and not worthy of even an A it works both ways buddy.. Also halo wars was a result of MS being greedy and wasn't made by bungie. ODST was bungie doing it for the hardcore fans/MS. The next real game in the series is coming three years later, right on track.

:| world at war didn't outsell modern warfare. Its not called an opinion, AAA games have to fit some certain type of criteria. Its called hypocrisy when they give a game a score when it doesn't.
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Firstly, I know Bungie. They would never throw out a half-assed game, ever. They're great devolopers. Second, making a crappy Halo, but knowing it would sell is stupid. Are people going to buy the next Halo if the previous one sucked? No. You can be sure that if Bungie isn't doing a good job, MS will be there to make sure they get back on track.enterawesome
Pretty much this.
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Im not backtracking at all, when i say it will offer as much as ODST i'm not using it as a positive. lol. ODST sales have also gone down. People are getting tired of halo because its turned into one of those every year franchise. A weaker spin off somehow managed to get AAA, that just shows the flaws in reviews. If halo 3 was the big ting for the fanchise after HAlo 2, then i'm not optimistic about REach. Halo 3 was a flop on so many levels yet reviews just jumped on it. I understand its a fun game and all, but not AAA material. Next year you have Bioshock 2, Brink, God of War III, Mafia II, Heavy Rain, Mass Effect 2, The Last Guardian, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising, Max Payne 3, Agent,etc. Halo Reach is irrelevant, i really hope reviewers don't bite into the hype again. Just review games with honesty and integrity, that should be all reviewers new years resolution.

Lol COD is one of those games that come out every year and sales go UP. I personally think halo deserves its AAA status, its called opinions buddy, someone could say they thought MGS4 is garbage and not worthy of even an A it works both ways buddy.. Also halo wars was a result of MS being greedy and wasn't made by bungie. ODST was bungie doing it for the hardcore fans/MS. The next real game in the series is coming three years later, right on track.

:| world at war didn't outsell modern warfare. Its not called an opinion, AAA games have to fit some certain type of criteria. Its called hypocrisy when they give a game a score when it doesn't.

Lol, I am talking about MW2 or did you conveniently forget. It is an opinion as to what is AAA and what is not, I personally thought DMC4 was AAA material or VERY close like 8.7.
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I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.Adrian_Cloud
How exactly did HW and ODST prove that people are "getting sick" of Halo exactly? It probably shows that YOU are perhaps, but you don't speak for a majority.
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[QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="MC3887"] Lol COD is one of those games that come out every year and sales go UP. I personally think halo deserves its AAA status, its called opinions buddy, someone could say they thought MGS4 is garbage and not worthy of even an A it works both ways buddy.. Also halo wars was a result of MS being greedy and wasn't made by bungie. ODST was bungie doing it for the hardcore fans/MS. The next real game in the series is coming three years later, right on track.

:| world at war didn't outsell modern warfare. Its not called an opinion, AAA games have to fit some certain type of criteria. Its called hypocrisy when they give a game a score when it doesn't.

Lol, I am talking about MW2 or did you conveniently forget. It is an opinion as to what is AAA and what is not, I personally thought DMC4 was AAA material or VERY close like 8.7.

You said every year, which is why i mentioned World at War. I personally thought DMC4 was great, but no where near DMC3 or DMC1. But thats not an example of the bad reviewing i'm talking about. Halo ODST has a short mediocre SP, recycled multi-player, and firefight gets old quick, and the graphics aren't even upgraded. Now you have a game like Killzone 2, fresh multi-player a great campaign albeit short, jaw dropping graphics, and they manage to get the same score. The worse case of this is Gametrailers pick for goty, they gave it to MW2 because it had addicting MP, that should not be the deciding factor for a game to win GOTY. Especially when Spec-ops doesn't add that much, sp is short and worse than MW1, the a.i is bad, really bad. End of my rant. You can look forward to Halo reach, it will probably get AAA seeing as reviewers just jump on anything halo.
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.SpiritOfFire117
How exactly did HW and ODST prove that people are "getting sick" of Halo exactly? It probably shows that YOU are perhaps, but you don't speak for a majority.

When sales decline from 8+million to half of that for both the new entries, it shows people are not entertained.
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.Adrian_Cloud
How exactly did HW and ODST prove that people are "getting sick" of Halo exactly? It probably shows that YOU are perhaps, but you don't speak for a majority.

When sales decline from 8+million to half of that for both the new entries, it shows people are not entertained.

It is not a main one of the series lol..... The spin-offs have the treyarch COD effect.
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="MC3887"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] :| world at war didn't outsell modern warfare. Its not called an opinion, AAA games have to fit some certain type of criteria. Its called hypocrisy when they give a game a score when it doesn't.

Lol, I am talking about MW2 or did you conveniently forget. It is an opinion as to what is AAA and what is not, I personally thought DMC4 was AAA material or VERY close like 8.7.

You said every year, which is why i mentioned World at War. I personally thought DMC4 was great, but no where near DMC3 or DMC1. But thats not an example of the bad reviewing i'm talking about. Halo ODST has a short mediocre SP, recycled multi-player, and firefight gets old quick, and the graphics aren't even upgraded. Now you have a game like Killzone 2, fresh multi-player a great campaign albeit short, jaw dropping graphics, and they manage to get the same score. The worse case of this is Gametrailers pick for goty, they gave it to MW2 because it had addicting MP, that should not be the deciding factor for a game to win GOTY. Especially when Spec-ops doesn't add that much, sp is short and worse than MW1, the a.i is bad, really bad. End of my rant. You can look forward to Halo reach, it will probably get AAA seeing as reviewers just jump on anything halo.

I liked the SP alot, I also love halo 3 MP. Also either way it still a COD game every year so it counts.
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.Adrian_Cloud
How exactly did HW and ODST prove that people are "getting sick" of Halo exactly? It probably shows that YOU are perhaps, but you don't speak for a majority.

When sales decline from 8+million to half of that for both the new entries, it shows people are not entertained.

One game was off-genre. Another was released just 4 months ago. Both were released in the same year. Both were spin-offs and not full-fledged entries in the series. Do you see a pattern? And yes they were very entertaining IMO.
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I agree with everything other than it won't score AAA. If halo: Wars and ODST have proved anything it shows that people are getting sick of HALO. I have no idea how ODST got AAA, you could make an argument for halo 3 but its still not a strong one. 2010 is a year for the heavy hitters and innovative games like Mafia II, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, Mass Effect 2, FFXIII, Halo Reach doesn't stand up, even the graphics look out dated.Adrian_Cloud
Graphics look outdated? We haven't even seen gameplay video yet, only a trailer. And how do people get sick of Halo when both spinoffs sold over a million? Not to mention Halo 3 is still being played constantly. I don't understand how Resistance 2 got AAA, see, I can do that too.

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ODST scores AAAE. So i think reach will have a good chance