Halo what? This is what graphics should be like on the newer consoles. Horizon Zero Dawn

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#51 clone01
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Looks good, I just really didn't get much into the first one.

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Found the first one boring, couldn't get halfway before deciding to play something else

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#53  Edited By deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@x_hedon said:

LOL!

its the powa of the ps5 9tflops

I mean, Horizon FW looks like Recore lol. From 5 freakin years ago. Let that sink in.

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@hardwenzen: You just select the worst images, and claim some sort of victory. Yeah, that screen shot was made in the middle of a big battle between MC and what... 8 enemies at least? It's probably a lot more, to be honest. So, yeah, the graphics in that screen shot do not look cutting edge. But, for a big, fluid battle scene, they are more than decent.

You compare this to Horizon FW? How many enemies are you fighting at once in the in game videos? One? Two? When there is actual game play, I think at most 1 saw three... once. Most of the gameplay reveal from Sony features zero enemies on the screen.

So, again, you don't know what you are talking about.

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#55 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: You just select the worst images, and claim some sort of victory. Yeah, that screen shot was made in the middle of a big battle between MC and what... 8 enemies at least? It's probably a lot more, to be honest. So, yeah, the graphics in that screen shot do not look cutting edge. But, for a big, fluid battle scene, they are more than decent.

You compare this to Horizon FW? How many enemies are you fighting at once in the in game videos? One? Two? When there is actual game play, I think at most 1 saw three... once. Most of the gameplay reveal from Sony features zero enemies on the screen.

So, again, you don't know what you are talking about.

I am still waiting to see 120fps footage from HFW.

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#56 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: You just select the worst images, and claim some sort of victory. Yeah, that screen shot was made in the middle of a big battle between MC and what... 8 enemies at least? It's probably a lot more, to be honest. So, yeah, the graphics in that screen shot do not look cutting edge. But, for a big, fluid battle scene, they are more than decent.

You compare this to Horizon FW? How many enemies are you fighting at once in the in game videos? One? Two? When there is actual game play, I think at most 1 saw three... once. Most of the gameplay reveal from Sony features zero enemies on the screen.

So, again, you don't know what you are talking about.

I didn't choose those pics, 343i did

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#57  Edited By hardwenzen
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@x_hedon said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: You just select the worst images, and claim some sort of victory. Yeah, that screen shot was made in the middle of a big battle between MC and what... 8 enemies at least? It's probably a lot more, to be honest. So, yeah, the graphics in that screen shot do not look cutting edge. But, for a big, fluid battle scene, they are more than decent.

You compare this to Horizon FW? How many enemies are you fighting at once in the in game videos? One? Two? When there is actual game play, I think at most 1 saw three... once. Most of the gameplay reveal from Sony features zero enemies on the screen.

So, again, you don't know what you are talking about.

I am still waiting to see 120fps footage from HFW.

With the kind of visuals Infinite has, it should be running at 300fps.🤣But it can barely get to 120.

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#58 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@hardwenzen said:
@x_hedon said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: You just select the worst images, and claim some sort of victory. Yeah, that screen shot was made in the middle of a big battle between MC and what... 8 enemies at least? It's probably a lot more, to be honest. So, yeah, the graphics in that screen shot do not look cutting edge. But, for a big, fluid battle scene, they are more than decent.

You compare this to Horizon FW? How many enemies are you fighting at once in the in game videos? One? Two? When there is actual game play, I think at most 1 saw three... once. Most of the gameplay reveal from Sony features zero enemies on the screen.

So, again, you don't know what you are talking about.

I am still waiting to see 120fps footage from HFW.

With the kind of visuals Infinite has, it should be running at 300fps.🤣But it can barely get to 120.

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@hardwenzen: Yeah, and you picked that image out of all the ones they have on their site.

Then, you compare a game that features a dozen + enemies on the screen at once, to a slower moving game that has at most three. Apples and oranges at it's best.

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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: Yeah, and you picked that image out of all the ones they have on their site.

Then, you compare a game that features a dozen + enemies on the screen at once, to a slower moving game that has at most three. Apples and oranges at it's best.

I think like up to 24 AI on the screen, not counting vehicles, all the weapon animations, day/night AND the wildlife.

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@x_hedon said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: Yeah, and you picked that image out of all the ones they have on their site.

Then, you compare a game that features a dozen + enemies on the screen at once, to a slower moving game that has at most three. Apples and oranges at it's best.

I think like up to 24 AI on the screen, not counting vehicles, all the weapon animations, day/night AND the wildlife.

I think I read that, too.

I am not saying that model for model, scenery for scenery, that Horizon doesn't look better. What I am saying is that they are very different games. And, when you look at how many enemies you fight at once in Halo vs Horizon, comparing the graphics becomes silly.

A better comparison would be Halo to CoD or Battlefield.

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#62 hardwenzen
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Looks like the Microsoft PR team is mad again😂

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#63  Edited By deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@dabear said:
@x_hedon said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: Yeah, and you picked that image out of all the ones they have on their site.

Then, you compare a game that features a dozen + enemies on the screen at once, to a slower moving game that has at most three. Apples and oranges at it's best.

I think like up to 24 AI on the screen, not counting vehicles, all the weapon animations, day/night AND the wildlife.

I think I read that, too.

I am not saying that model for model, scenery for scenery, that Horizon doesn't look better. What I am saying is that they are very different games. And, when you look at how many enemies you fight at once in Halo vs Horizon, comparing the graphics becomes silly.

A better comparison would be Halo to CoD or Battlefield.

That doesn't fit the cow brigade agenda though!

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#64 mowgly1
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Now this is graphics, not some lifeless crap in Halo Infinite.

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#65 hrt_rulz01
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@Pedro said:

Halo Infinite continues to live rent free in Sony Fannies minds as they patiently wait for something to play.😂

Lol yep!!

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#66 Antwan3K
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put about 56 hours in Horizon: Zero Dawn and ultimately really enjoyed the game.. we'll see if the gameplay holds up now that Ubisoft has successfully soured the openworld formula for everyone..

if it reviews well, i'll pick it up if/when it comes to PC..

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#67  Edited By hardwenzen
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Lems reading this thread after watching that marvelous trailer- do you have any idea how much longer do we need to wait for an open world game to approach these kind of visuals on the X? All you currently have is Horizon5, and its so far behind in visuals and interactivity that i'd feel offended if someone compared the two. I am very sorry to say this, but you're being farmed by a 9.2tflops system, and that, that is funny. Talent>tflops.

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#68 tdkmillsy
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Wheres the Gameplay??

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#69  Edited By lamprey263
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I'll take Halo Infinite on Game Pass and everything else that comes with that over a $70 game. No matter how great the game is I won't support these $70 releases.

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@hardwenzen said:

Lems reading this thread after watching that marvelous trailer- do you have any idea how much longer do we need to wait for an open world game to approach these kind of visuals on the X? All you currently have is Horizon5, and its so far behind in visuals and interactivity that i'd feel offended if someone compared the two. I am very sorry to say this, but you're being farmed by a 9.2tflops system, and that, that is funny. Talent>tflops.

Yep. Claiming otherwise is just delusional.

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#72  Edited By hardwenzen
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@tdkmillsy said:

Wheres the Gameplay??

As if it wasn't shown already, and a long time ago. Very fanboy comment from you as always.

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@hardwenzen said:

Lems reading this thread after watching that marvelous trailer- do you have any idea how much longer do we need to wait for an open world game to approach these kind of visuals on the X? All you currently have is Horizon5, and its so far behind in visuals and interactivity that i'd feel offended if someone compared the two. I am very sorry to say this, but you're being farmed by a 9.2tflops system, and that, that is funny. Talent>tflops.

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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

Lems reading this thread after watching that marvelous trailer- do you have any idea how much longer do we need to wait for an open world game to approach these kind of visuals on the X? All you currently have is Horizon5, and its so far behind in visuals and interactivity that i'd feel offended if someone compared the two. I am very sorry to say this, but you're being farmed by a 9.2tflops system, and that, that is funny. Talent>tflops.

Makes you feel that way because you know deep down that i am right, but of course you will never admit that. Imagine what Sony could achieve if they had 12tflops. Just think about that for a second.

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#75 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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If it's kinda average like the original I'll still take Halo over it.

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@hardwenzen: the thread is comparing two games. One released with gameplay against one not even released with just movie scenes.

Not that's a typical cow move.

Come back when it has 120fps.

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#77 Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:

Now this is graphics, not some lifeless crap in Halo Infinite.

Halo Infinite is so good that it is the benchmark for this game.😂🤣

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I think we can all agree that Xbox games generally have better gameplay and design than Playstation games

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#79 blaznwiipspman1
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@x_hedon: thank you again, but a waste of another digital boom box

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@iamthetruth101: I think we can all agree that whatever drugs you're on you should definitely stop.

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#81 dabear
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@hardwenzen: So... you're admitting the XSX is the more powerful console. Interesting.

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#82 Sagemode87
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@dabear: who cares. No one will notice a difference if there is any. Feel better about your purchase?

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@Pedro: Yep, Halo lives rent free in cows heads because you say so. Learning the only way to talk to Lems is to patronize. Enjoying your Xbox bud?

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@Pedro: Yep, Halo lives rent free in cows heads because you say so. Learning the only way to talk to Lems is to patronize as you guys won't concede to facts. Enjoying your Xbox bud?

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@blaznwiipspman1: that's right. 9tf of pure awesomeness! Enjoying your Xbox bud?

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#86  Edited By Pedro
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@Sagemode87 said:

@Pedro: Yep, Halo lives rent free in cows heads because you say so. Learning the only way to talk to Lems is to patronize. Enjoying your Xbox bud?

@Sagemode87 said:

@Pedro: Yep, Halo lives rent free in cows heads because you say so. Learning the only way to talk to Lems is to patronize as you guys won't concede to facts. Enjoying your Xbox bud?

I guess you missed the title of the thread.😂🤣

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#87 dabear
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@Sagemode87: immensely, thank you very much. FH5, Halo Infinite, and Back 4 Blood have been fun to play. I just downloaded The Gunk and will give that a shot over the weekend.

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@tdkmillsy said:

@hardwenzen: the thread is comparing two games. One released with gameplay against one not even released with just movie scenes.

Not that's a typical cow move.

Come back when it has 120fps.

It will never have 120fps because it doesn't look ugly like Infinite. Its like running a 360 game on a rtx3080 and being proud to achieve 120fps. You need to stop with this damage control.

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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: So... you're admitting the XSX is the more powerful console. Interesting.

I do, but there is no talent at Microsoft to use that power. Not to mention that they don't have an SSD as quick as the PS5, which makes a massive different in performance.

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#90 VFighter
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@hardwenzen: Lol, it's a weird angle to go after to attack Horizon. Yeah it looks amazing ..but but but can it run 120 fps?

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#91  Edited By dabear
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@hardwenzen: FH5 and MSFS look better than anything on PS5. Sorry.

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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: FH5 and MSFS look better than anything on PS5. Sorry.

No!

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#93  Edited By hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: FH5 and MSFS look better than anything on PS5. Sorry.

That's just you making stuff up. Horzion5 looks like Horizon4, an old Xbone game. Horizon FW looks like a next gen game that will have a lot of trouble on previous generation of consoles.

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@dabear: 😂 You're always good for a laugh.

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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: FH5 and MSFS look better than anything on PS5. Sorry.

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Looks like the first one but with more sh*t on screen. I loved the first one and I'm a huge Guerrilla fan, but this is still ultimately a cross gen title. We won't see true next gen visuals until they cut the cord to last gen. Stalker 2 will be the first graphical powerhouse I believe.

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#97 dabear
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@davillain-: @vfighter: @hardwenzen:

You can try to deny it all you want, but the current graphics kings are on Xbox (console wise).

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#98 Pedro
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@dabear said:

@davillain-: @vfighter: @hardwenzen:

You can try to deny it all you want, but the current graphics kings are on Xbox (console wise).

Man, you are speaking nonsense. Both consoles have stellar looking games. Neither outshines the other.

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@hardwenzen: 'THIS IS A SCREEN SHOT MADE BY 343i🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Imagine that. This is on what they're selling their game😂Wouldn't be a first, they posted this last year🤣'

That was also from the 2020 E3 build of the game. They overhauled the graphics since then. Halo Infinite is beautiful if you actually have played it. Its also going fir a cleaner look similar to Combat Evolved, so of course there won't be particle effects finding at your face every second. The beauty is in the fine details. And the detail is everywhere.

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#100  Edited By deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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@hardwenzen: 'THIS IS A SCREEN SHOT MADE BY 343i🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Imagine that. This is on what they're selling their game😂Wouldn't be a first, they posted this last year🤣'

That was also from the 2020 E3 build of the game. They overhauled the graphics since then. Halo Infinite is beautiful if you actually have played it. Its also going for a cleaner look similar to Combat Evolved, so of course there won't be particle effects finding at your face every second or lens flare blinding the screen. The beauty is in the fine details. And the detail is everywhere.

If you want hi end graphics, get a PC. You don't get a low end gaming console for graphics. You get it for the simplicity of simply popping in a game and playing at a reasonable cost.