Man you re indeed avoiding the main issue here , and that is Sony's Greatness.AgentA-Mi6
Those two girls, in your sig, what are they saying? Is that a gang symbol or are they calling me a loser?
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this thread..it fails because we havent seen any videos of Single player campaign physics for Halo3...
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[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="nowakawon"]Because you can't listen, that makes the Halo story crap?nowakawoni played both games, over a dozen times each and pay attention to each cut scene. the story is crap. most FPS stories are crap, halo is no different. why do you think they cant even get the movie made with peter jackson's backing? A simple answer to why no movie yet. It got too expensive. too expensive for peter jackson? are you serious? the guy who made the LOTR movies and king kong? the movie cant get a decent script is more like it. maybe the should have got sony to make the movie for them, they got the MGS movie on the fast track. im sure the budget has something to do with it, but like i said, most FPS stories are crap and halo is no different [QUOTE="hkmp5a2"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"] Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic ! And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it. they fall down realy fast........ people just don't stand up when getting shot like that......the shock alone would bring a person down to the ground i like how everyone is an expert now... not everyone is gonna react the same way to getting shot, especially some guy with 10 layers of armor under him or whatever those guys from killzone are wearing...
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it.Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic !
Verge_6
For all we know, that could be a scripted animation as well. I can name plenty of games that have the whole 'writhing body' thing, and it's all canned.
And no, people DON'T react that way when shot by an automatic weapon. The first round has enough force to knock you down, and that guy's still standing after 20+ have hit him. He has his body weight in lead inside him.
Dude thats really innacurate , those guys are wearing special protective suit but well some people will never acknowledge the PROs of ps3 games :'(
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it.Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic !
AgentA-Mi6
For all we know, that could be a scripted animation as well. I can name plenty of games that have the whole 'writhing body' thing, and it's all canned.
And no, people DON'T react that way when shot by an automatic weapon. The first round has enough force to knock you down, and that guy's still standing after 20+ have hit him. He has his body weight in lead inside him.
Dude thats really innacurate , those guys are wearing special protective suit but well some people will never acknowledge the PROs of ps3 games :'(
Well aparently that special protective suit aint doin much cause theres blood flying out of him constantly...
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it.Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic !
AgentA-Mi6
For all we know, that could be a scripted animation as well. I can name plenty of games that have the whole 'writhing body' thing, and it's all canned.
And no, people DON'T react that way when shot by an automatic weapon. The first round has enough force to knock you down, and that guy's still standing after 20+ have hit him. He has his body weight in lead inside him.
Dude thats really innacurate , those guys are wearing special protective suit but well some people will never acknowledge the PROs of ps3 games :'(
suits don't protect you from the force of a freaking bullet, and in this case a freakin clip of them.
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it.Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic !
AgentA-Mi6
For all we know, that could be a scripted animation as well. I can name plenty of games that have the whole 'writhing body' thing, and it's all canned.
And no, people DON'T react that way when shot by an automatic weapon. The first round has enough force to knock you down, and that guy's still standing after 20+ have hit him. He has his body weight in lead inside him.
Dude thats really innacurate , those guys are wearing special protective suit but well some people will never acknowledge the PROs of ps3 games :'(
:| The protective armor is one of THE main causes that makes you to go down in the first place. A round hits the Helghan, who is probably weighed down with at LEAST 60lbs of gear, not counting his weapon. The force of said round knockes the wind out of him, leaving him weakened. Thus the body does not have enough strength to support his own weight and that of his gear and equipment. Add the force of the round itself, and you have a helghan who has been dropped like a hot potato. And if he's wearing protective armor, why in the HELL is their blood spurting out of it?
It can be the uberest, of uberest games ever made. But H3 will dominate it easily once again, downgrade or not. FACT. And I don't like halo at all because of the hype, but it's common knowledge that it's beast of an IP.kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
AgentA-Mi6
[QUOTE="nowakawon"] [QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="nowakawon"]Because you can't listen, that makes the Halo story crap?Stall0wn3di played both games, over a dozen times each and pay attention to each cut scene. the story is crap. most FPS stories are crap, halo is no different. why do you think they cant even get the movie made with peter jackson's backing? A simple answer to why no movie yet. It got too expensive. too expensive for peter jackson? are you serious? the guy who made the LOTR movies and king kong? the movie cant get a decent script is more like it. maybe the should have got sony to make the movie for them, they got the MGS movie on the fast track. im sure the budget has something to do with it, but like i said, most FPS stories are crap and halo is no different
Actually Fox, who was funding it, backed out because the cost for production got too high.
[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it.Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic !
Verge_6
For all we know, that could be a scripted animation as well. I can name plenty of games that have the whole 'writhing body' thing, and it's all canned.
And no, people DON'T react that way when shot by an automatic weapon. The first round has enough force to knock you down, and that guy's still standing after 20+ have hit him. He has his body weight in lead inside him.
Dude thats really innacurate , those guys are wearing special protective suit but well some people will never acknowledge the PROs of ps3 games :'(
:| The protective armor isone of THE main causes that makesyou to go down in the first place. A round hits the Helghan, whois probably weighed down with a LEAST 60 lbs of gear, not counting his weapon. The force of said round knockes the wind out of him, leaving him weakened. Thus the body does not have enough strength to support his own weight and that of his gear and equipment. Add the force of the round itself, and you have a helghan who has been dropped like a hot potato. And if he's wearing protective armor, why in the HELL is their blood spurting out of it?
armor piercing bullets? anyways about dropping like a potato...[QUOTE="mattyomo99"][QUOTE="adders99"]you are lame.... ill enjoy halo 3 and you can enjoy kz2... good day sir... but i wonder which one will have the better story line.SpruceCaboose
halo 3 dosnt even need a story line... IMO it dosnt even need a single player ppl play it for its online. just like ppl play socom for its online, the only reason i beat socom is so i could get more guns
Halo's story is superb.
You must not have played through many good stories then..
[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it.Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic !
AgentA-Mi6
For all we know, that could be a scripted animation as well. I can name plenty of games that have the whole 'writhing body' thing, and it's all canned.
And no, people DON'T react that way when shot by an automatic weapon. The first round has enough force to knock you down, and that guy's still standing after 20+ have hit him. He has his body weight in lead inside him.
Dude thats really innacurate , those guys are wearing special protective suit but well some people will never acknowledge the PROs of ps3 games :'(
RFLOL'd, you proclaim yourself a PS3 pro. How original. The knockdown power of an assault rifle, literally drops you on the first shot. And it's the instinct of the body to go limb, not stand there, and take another 20+ rounds of lead. That sir is not realism. But is what we call Hollywood fake.[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"][QUOTE="adders99"]you are lame.... ill enjoy halo 3 and you can enjoy kz2... good day sir... but i wonder which one will have the better story line.E_x_i_l_e
halo 3 dosnt even need a story line... IMO it dosnt even need a single player ppl play it for its online. just like ppl play socom for its online, the only reason i beat socom is so i could get more guns
Halo's story is superb.
You must not have played through many good stories then..
It's an opinion, and I'm sorry you don't agree with his. I think The Little Mermaid has one of the most educational and enriched stories ever. Go me.
i played both games, over a dozen times each and pay attention to each cut scene. the story is crap. most FPS stories are crap, halo is no different. why do you think they cant even get the movie made with peter jackson's backing? A simple answer to why no movie yet. It got too expensive. too expensive for peter jackson? are you serious? the guy who made the LOTR movies and king kong? the movie cant get a decent script is more like it. maybe the should have got sony to make the movie for them, they got the MGS movie on the fast track. im sure the budget has something to do with it, but like i said, most FPS stories are crap and halo is no different[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="nowakawon"] [QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="nowakawon"]Because you can't listen, that makes the Halo story crap?nowakawon
Actually Fox, who was funding it, backed out because the cost for production got too high.
thats what was told to the public, but any studio would pick up a project as big as this, with peter jackson's backing... if it has a decent script :)[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]And would you care to describe for us how you know what seeing someone shot with an automatic weapon looks like? Because I'm pretty sure you're full of it.Look how the guy moves when hit by bullets,¡ unbeatably realistic !
Stall0wn3d
For all we know, that could be a scripted animation as well. I can name plenty of games that have the whole 'writhing body' thing, and it's all canned.
And no, people DON'T react that way when shot by an automatic weapon. The first round has enough force to knock you down, and that guy's still standing after 20+ have hit him. He has his body weight in lead inside him.
Dude thats really innacurate , those guys are wearing special protective suit but well some people will never acknowledge the PROs of ps3 games :'(
:| The protective armor isone of THE main causes that makesyou to go down in the first place. A round hits the Helghan, whois probably weighed down with a LEAST 60 lbs of gear, not counting his weapon. The force of said round knockes the wind out of him, leaving him weakened. Thus the body does not have enough strength to support his own weight and that of his gear and equipment. Add the force of the round itself, and you have a helghan who has been dropped like a hot potato. And if he's wearing protective armor, why in the HELL is their blood spurting out of it?
armor piercing bullets? anyways about dropping like a potato...don't think i didn't see those headshots.
[QUOTE="nowakawon"]i played both games, over a dozen times each and pay attention to each cut scene. the story is crap. most FPS stories are crap, halo is no different. why do you think they cant even get the movie made with peter jackson's backing? A simple answer to why no movie yet. It got too expensive. too expensive for peter jackson? are you serious? the guy who made the LOTR movies and king kong? the movie cant get a decent script is more like it. maybe the should have got sony to make the movie for them, they got the MGS movie on the fast track. im sure the budget has something to do with it, but like i said, most FPS stories are crap and halo is no different[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="nowakawon"] [QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="nowakawon"]Because you can't listen, that makes the Halo story crap?Stall0wn3d
Actually Fox, who was funding it, backed out because the cost for production got too high.
thats what was told to the public, but any studio would pick up a project as big as this, with peter jackson's backing... if it has a decent script :)What makes you think it didn't? It's already got a great story.
What makes you think it didn't? It's already got a great story.nowakawoni dont like going in circles, you think its great, i think it is crap, im not the only one. like i said, FPS have never been known to have casablanca type stories, halo is not different. halo is not reknown as being good cus it has a great story, it is good cus it has good gameplay.
[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"]armor piercing bullets? anyways about dropping like a potato...Juggernaut140
don't think i didn't see those headshots.
:lol:[QUOTE="kman3002"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]After watching killzone2's trailer for some reason I felt compelled to watch H3's one and now that Ive seen both I have to say LOL@HALO physics ,they remind me of Golden Eye for the N64, I forecast a massive Flop , I put H3 Physics nest to kz2's, the 360 losses brutally but not only the god damn physics are mediocre for not saying abysmal , the textures are also inferior nevertheless we all now that, watch both trailers and you'll see.
Its kind of Curious how people still hype this game after the downgrade
AgentA-Mi6
Halo:Combat Evolved(XBOX) 9.7/10.0 Killzone(PS2) 6.9/10.0
Halo 2(XBOX) 9.4/10.0 Killzone Liberations(PSP) 8.3/10.0
That's why lemmings have good reasons for hyping Halo 3,but I honestly have no clue why cows think Killzone 2will be any better than KZ1because under the fancy graphics it appears to be the same old Killzone.
We re talking about Killzone 2 and halo 3 , Bringing up previous games shows insecurity , Im confident about the new killzone despite of the last one's score which was terribly unfair by the way---
:lol: Insecurity? So what it's not fair bringing up the past scores as a way to get an idea of how next-gen ones will be?That I'm suppose to just believe that even though the first two Killozones where horrible that somehow things will magically change with the 3rd?Sorry but no I was one of those cows who hyped Killzone 1 "teh Halo Killa!!!111!!!!11!!11!" but then after that flop I got my **** together and realised I should go with a winner.With all this hype on Killzone 2 you cows are just setting yourselves up for ownage once again,because like I said before under the Fancy new coat of paint it appears to be the same old Killzone.
[QUOTE="nowakawon"]What makes you think it didn't? It's already got a great story.Stall0wn3di dont like going in circles, you think its great, i think it is crap, im not the only one. like i said, FPS have never been known to have casablanca type stories, halo is not different. halo is not reknown as being good cus it has a great story, it is good cus it has good gameplay.
Well that's your opinion that the Halo story is weak. It has morale value to it and is presented well in my opinion. Once again, production for the movie was halted because of the ESTIMATE(which are usually lower then final) production costs. Video game movies haven't fully proven themselves yet and it's risky buisness putting down $250 million to produce one.
i dont like going in circles, you think its great, i think it is crap, im not the only one. like i said, FPS have never been known to have casablanca type stories, halo is not different. halo is not reknown as being good cus it has a great story, it is good cus it has good gameplay.[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"][QUOTE="nowakawon"]What makes you think it didn't? It's already got a great story.nowakawon
Well that's your opinion that the Halo story is weak. It has morale value to it and is presented well in my opinion. Once again, production for the movie was halted because of the ESTIMATE(which are usually lower then final) production costs. Video game movies haven't fully proven themselves yet and it's risky buisness putting down $250 million to produce one.
yea especially risky when the lead character is a guy in a metallic suit who never shows his face and barely talks. its like the robocop of the 21 century, i can see why no one wants to make it.yea especially risky when the lead character is a guy in a metallic suit who never shows his face and barely talks. its like the robocop of the 21 century, i can see why no one wants to make it.Stall0wn3d
That's something that has me amazed about the Halo story, a reason I love it so much. The main character, the hero, you have no idea who he is. When I play as master chief, I don't get the feeling i'm playing as someone else. Rather, I can image me when he takes off the helmet. It's an interesting take for a main character.
People do want to make it, Peter Jacksons movie firm is producing a mini series for Halo. (The Arms Race was the first one, showed at E3)
After watching killzone2's trailer for some reason I felt compelled to watch H3's one and now that Ive seen both I have to say LOL@HALO physics ,they remind me of Golden Eye for the N64, I forecast a massive Flop , I put H3 Physics nest to kz2's, the 360 losses brutally but not only the god damn physics are mediocre for not saying abysmal , the textures are also inferior nevertheless we all now that, watch both trailers and you'll see.
Its kind of Curious how people still hype this game after the downgrade
AgentA-Mi6
If you want to start bashing Halo 3 take a look at the AI in KZ2 its Lame
[QUOTE="Stall0wn3d"] yea especially risky when the lead character is a guy in a metallic suit who never shows his face and barely talks. its like the robocop of the 21 century, i can see why no one wants to make it.nowakawon
That's something that has me amazed about the Halo story, a reason I love it so much. The main character, the hero, you have no idea who he is. When I play as master chief, I don't get the feeling i'm playing as someone else. Rather, I can image me when he takes off the helmet. It's an interesting take for a main character.
People do want to make it, Peter Jacksons movie firm is producing a mini series for Halo. (The Arms Race was the first one, showed at E3)
thats the thing, because you can imagine yourself as him doesnt make the story any better. especialy for a movie crowd. MGS has an amazing story, halo is average at best. and now peter jackson has to fund some minimovies in order to show off the property to other studios to get the actual movie made, thats what hes doing.[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
fixer293
And you know this,how? oh you don't, because your a sony fanboy that knows nothing.
[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
Squall_Griver
And you know this,how? oh you don't, because your a sony fanboy that knows nothing.
ZOmG look at the AI. I love how the helghastjust stands there withhis gun aimed at the player for like 5 seconds after the player starts shooting.
you are lame.... ill enjoy halo 3 and you can enjoy kz2... good day sir... but i wonder which one will have the better story line.adders99
see how the forum got quiet... see...see...
kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
AgentA-Mi6
My beleif is that if you wish to make such a bold statement, you should have to back it up. How about a sig bet?
[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
Squall_Griver
And you know this,how? oh you don't, because your a sony fanboy that knows nothing.
Uh how does that show Physics? That is a death animation and nothing more.
An example of physics would be something like Halo 3's water physics.
kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
AgentA-Mi6
really? because i've yet to see a PS3 game with great textures -- oh yeah, it's because the ram can't handle large resolution textures. i'll never understand why Sony, when presented with the option of providing massive storage via bluray - decided to slap in the bare minimum amount of ram. imagine what it would have been like with just one extra stick of 512 for swapping larger textures -- coulda destroyed the 360.
not trying to defend halo, don't like it much to be honest - i'll play killzone, but i'm not expecting much.
[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
3picuri3
really? because i've yet to see a PS3 game with great textures -- oh yeah, it's because the vram can't handle large resolution textures. i've never understand why Sony, when presented with the option of providing massive storage via bluray - decided to slap in the bare minimum amount of ram. imagine what it would have been like with just one extra stick of 512 for swapping larger textures -- coulda destroyed the 360.
I bet you haven't seen the E3 Uncharted trailer in a HDTV have you?:|
[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
3picuri3
really? because i've yet to see a PS3 game with great textures -- oh yeah, it's because the ram can't handle large resolution textures. i've never understand why Sony, when presented with the option of providing massive storage via bluray - decided to slap in the bare minimum amount of ram. imagine what it would have been like with just one extra stick of 512 for swapping larger textures -- coulda destroyed the 360.
[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
sm66612
really? because i've yet to see a PS3 game with great textures -- oh yeah, it's because the vram can't handle large resolution textures. i've never understand why Sony, when presented with the option of providing massive storage via bluray - decided to slap in the bare minimum amount of ram. imagine what it would have been like with just one extra stick of 512 for swapping larger textures -- coulda destroyed the 360.
I bet you haven't seen the E3 Uncharted trailer in a HDTV have you?:|
yeah i have, 42 inches - sorry, i'm a nitpicker with textures, and Uncharted certainly doesn't have stellar texture work.
[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
Squall_Griver
really? because i've yet to see a PS3 game with great textures -- oh yeah, it's because the ram can't handle large resolution textures. i've never understand why Sony, when presented with the option of providing massive storage via bluray - decided to slap in the bare minimum amount of ram. imagine what it would have been like with just one extra stick of 512 for swapping larger textures -- coulda destroyed the 360.
care to point 'em out?
and it's 'so MANY flaws' if you want to get anal.
[QUOTE="sm66612"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
3picuri3
really? because i've yet to see a PS3 game with great textures -- oh yeah, it's because the vram can't handle large resolution textures. i've never understand why Sony, when presented with the option of providing massive storage via bluray - decided to slap in the bare minimum amount of ram. imagine what it would have been like with just one extra stick of 512 for swapping larger textures -- coulda destroyed the 360.
I bet you haven't seen the E3 Uncharted trailer in a HDTV have you?:|
yeah i have, 42 inches - sorry, i'm a nitpicker with textures, and Uncharted certainly doesn't have stellar texture work.
The textures are not mind blowing I agree, but the art direction is very good and makes the game look great along with all the diffrent small details.
[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="sm66612"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]kz2 is on pre alpha stage the mastered game will own h3
justforlotr2004
really? because i've yet to see a PS3 game with great textures -- oh yeah, it's because the vram can't handle large resolution textures. i've never understand why Sony, when presented with the option of providing massive storage via bluray - decided to slap in the bare minimum amount of ram. imagine what it would have been like with just one extra stick of 512 for swapping larger textures -- coulda destroyed the 360.
I bet you haven't seen the E3 Uncharted trailer in a HDTV have you?:|
yeah i have, 42 inches - sorry, i'm a nitpicker with textures, and Uncharted certainly doesn't have stellar texture work.
The textures are not mind blowing I agree, but the art direction is very good and makes the game look great along with all the diffrent small details.
i actually really don't like the art design with Drake's at all. the animations are superb, but i can't stand the art direction - something is just off with the overall feel of it. looks a bit plasticy if that makes sense.
i actually really don't like the art design with Drake's at all. the animations are superb, but i can't stand the art direction - something is just off with the overall feel of it. looks a bit plasticy if that makes sense.
3picuri3
Well to each their own, art style is subjective hince why some people dont like Halo's visuals and think they are horrible.
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