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#51 Decrate
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planescape: torment says hi

nothing beats it

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#52 texasgoldrush  Online
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[QUOTE="Decrate"]

planescape: torment says hi

nothing beats it

One of the best written, but not the greatest.
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#53 spookykid143
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planescape: torment says hi

nothing beats it

Decrate

Story wise i would agree

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[QUOTE="alfredooo"]

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"] Following scientific, factual history, Moses is not a Christian. I take it that you are one of those people who assume the age of the Earth being 6000 years old.

MrSelf-Destruct

No sir, I'm not. Almost all I know about Moses is that he shows up on the bible and sorta divided a river in two. I just made the connection with Bible = TC and the game are trying to convert people.

:lol: He parted a sea! A freakin' beaver can divide a river. Not picking on you, I just thought that was kinda funny. I don't expect everyone to know what the hell Moses's crazy ass did. Talking to bushes and whatnot I don't see how he expected anyone to believe it, either. :P

ZOMG all of a sudden.... Moses is a total badass. I wouldn't mind playing as him in an RPG, owning it up at the seven seas and stuff.

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#55 texasgoldrush  Online
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

Awww,it´s the first game I´ve ever played(or at least that I can remember)....but Ultima VII is better. ;)

Arach666

But is it as influential? How good something is doesn't really have to do with how good it is, so much as it has to do with how influential it is.

Oh,Quest of the Avatar sure is influential,but VII is a much better game. Being influential = best to some though,I guess...

I actually think some aspects were much better done in IV, like ethics for example. In VII, you can commit crimes and get away with it, not so in IV. VII also had some BAD bugs.

VII beats IV in plot (and VII pt2 is even better), however, it did not have the ethical dilemmas as IV did.

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#56 texasgoldrush  Online
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Too be honest, TC, you thought Dragon Age 2 was a good RPG, too. I just don't think I'm going to take your word on this. :PMrSelf-Destruct
Not the only one singing its praises

http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061597p1.html

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#57 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]Too be honest, TC, you thought Dragon Age 2 was a good RPG, too. I just don't think I'm going to take your word on this. :Ptexasgoldrush

Not the only one singing its praises

http://pc.ign.com/articles/106/1061597p1.html

Oh thank Moses. I thought that was going to be about DA II. :P I'm just kidding with you anyhow. It sounds like it was way ahead of its time. It was certainly ahead of mine. I was only 3 years old when it came out. :shock:

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#58 oldkingallant
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Chrono Trigger for me.

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I agree.

The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

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No Dark Souls comes out later this year :P. I kid! The Witcher 2 looks amazing.
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#59 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

But is it as influential? How good something is doesn't really have to do with how good it is, so much as it has to do with how influential it is.

texasgoldrush

Oh,Quest of the Avatar sure is influential,but VII is a much better game. Being influential = best to some though,I guess...

I actually think some aspects were much better done in IV, like ethics for example. In VII, you can commit crimes and get away with it, not so in IV. VII also had some BAD bugs.

VII beats IV in plot (and VII pt2 is even better), however, it did not have the ethical dilemmas as IV did.

I guess I really can´t disagree with you on that.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Oh,Quest of the Avatar sure is influential,but VII is a much better game. Being influential = best to some though,I guess...Arach666
I actually think some aspects were much better done in IV, like ethics for example. In VII, you can commit crimes and get away with it, not so in IV. VII also had some BAD bugs.

VII beats IV in plot (and VII pt2 is even better), however, it did not have the ethical dilemmas as IV did.

I guess I really can´t disagree with you on that.

In IV, you cannot just power your way through. You can try, but to get powerful, you may violate the virtues. For example, the common RPG thing is to grind for XP, but doing so violates the virtues if your enemies flee and you kill them as they flee. You can steal powerful weapons and money to get powerful quickly, and rip off merchants, but you will never be honest. You have to give up riches to gain compassion, etc. You have to master ALL virtues to win the game. and the opening is BRILLIANT, where you have to make moral gray decisions in which virtue you value more when solving an ethical dillemma. Your character class is based off that.
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#61 travisstaggs
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Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross says hi!

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#62 texasgoldrush  Online
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Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross says hi!

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Chrono Trigger is great, but Cross is VERY overrated.
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#63 travisstaggs
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Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross says hi!

texasgoldrush
Chrono Trigger is great, but Cross is VERY overrated.

I actually liked it just as much as Trigger.
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[QUOTE="travisstaggs"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="travisstaggs"]

Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross says hi!

Chrono Trigger is great, but Cross is VERY overrated.

I actually liked it just as much as Trigger.

the music and battle system were great, the plot is a huge mess though.
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#65 travisstaggs
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[QUOTE="travisstaggs"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Chrono Trigger is great, but Cross is VERY overrated.texasgoldrush
I actually liked it just as much as Trigger.

the music and battle system were great, the plot is a huge mess though.

I will agree with that, but I still wasn't disappointed with it at all.
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#66 killzoneded
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VII was better

Also artistically FF9 is still the ultimate RPG, the world, artistic detail that has gone in this game beats anything

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#67 bri360
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No FF7? Or has that been rated as overrated garbage now?? Seeing as anything good gets that title around here lol.

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#68 Grawse
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Demon's Souls will hold that title at least until Dark Souls.

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#69 CTR360
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fallout 3 and vegas
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#70 Ravenchrome
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fallout 3 and vegas CTR360
Bethesda-related games should not be considered as among the greatest.

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#71 Elann2008
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The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

ChubbyGuy40
This. But as of right now, it's a tie between Secret of Mana and Final Fantasy Tactics.
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#72 Sagem28
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is that Moses splitting the red sea ?

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#73 hakanakumono
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I swear to god it looks like someone traced a sunday school handout.

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#74 garrett_daniels
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I swear to god it looks like someone traced a sunday school handout.

hakanakumono

Well, the Avatar is very much the Messiah of Ultima (even more so in this game) so that's probably intentional.

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#75 campzor
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NO!! final fantasy X is much better!!
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#76 spookykid143
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fallout 3 and vegas CTR360
Fallout 1 and 2 are better so no.

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#77 Rekunta
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Well, I've heard great things about it and would like to try it, but 64K of memory is a little more than my system can handle.

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#79 Lucianu
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I can't agree with you, texas.

I think Gothic 2: Gold, Ultima 7, Xenogears (despite the fact that the second disk is just bad compared to the first one, and the japanese to english did not translate well.. at all) and Planescape Torment are the greatest RPGs of all times, bar none.

I can't pick one, so all of 'em are my personal first place. I haven't played Ultima IV, yet. Is it superior to Ultima 7? I always believed 7 was the greatest of the series, it's a perfect RPG, i'm playing it from time to time, right now, trough mods.

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#80 GeneralShowzer
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I thought you were going to say Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age II. Pleasantly surprised. +1
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#81 killzoneded
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I can't agree with you, texas.

I think Gothic 2: Gold, Ultima 7, Xenogears (despite the fact that the second disk is just bad compared to the first one, and the japanese to english did not translate well.. at all) and Planescape Torment are the greatest RPGs of all times, bar none.

I can't pick one, so all of 'em are my personal first place. I haven't played Ultima IV, yet. Is it superior to Ultima 7? I always believed 7 was the greatest of the series, it's a perfect RPG, i'm playing it from time to time, right now, trough mods.

Lucianu

I would change Xenogears with FF9, due to theme i prefer, but the others are spot on

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#82 SecretPolice
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KOTOR... that is all. :P

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#83 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="EddieTheHead84"]

Fallout 1 says hello.

texasgoldrush
and Ultima IV says look how much I influenced you.

That doesn't make a game better. Lol.
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#84 evilross
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Very cool.

Although I'm not sure Ultima IV is the greatest RPG ever, I would say that it was the first truely great computer RPG.

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#85 osan0
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oh for the love of......i need to play that also. *checks GOG* crap! its not there. the only ultima games i have played are ultima 9 (stop laughing down back..it wasnt that bad. ok it was :P) and ultima online (it was ok). however from my reading of the sacred scrolls (read: gaming mags) over the years i get the impression that ive only seen ultima at its worst. ultima 4, underworld and ultima 7 i think are all required playing.
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#86 texasgoldrush  Online
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

I can't agree with you, texas.

I think Gothic 2: Gold, Ultima 7, Xenogears (despite the fact that the second disk is just bad compared to the first one, and the japanese to english did not translate well.. at all) and Planescape Torment are the greatest RPGs of all times, bar none.

I can't pick one, so all of 'em are my personal first place. I haven't played Ultima IV, yet. Is it superior to Ultima 7? I always believed 7 was the greatest of the series, it's a perfect RPG, i'm playing it from time to time, right now, trough mods.

Richard Garriot himself considers both IV and VII his best. as I have said earlier, IV had the ethical dilemma's VII lacked.
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No, that game was bad.
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#88 lordreaven
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Planescape: Torment. Any other answear is Heresy.

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#89 Maroxad
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Ultima 4 is a great game and very influential. Ultima 7 is better however. Both are in my top RPG list. Since a lot of people here have probably not played it, here is a review of it (contains dirty humor/bad language).

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#90 Indie_Hitman
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KOTOR... that is all. :P

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KOTOR2 if you're going to pick one of them. But even then... If EA closed down the online version of Ultima IV, does that mean they're selling the game somehwere?
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#91 Heil68
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The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

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Mass Effect 3 comes out next month? :o
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#92 Ravenchrome
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

Heil68

Mass Effect 3 comes out next month? :o

I am sure ME3 is going to be a great entertainment product, but saying it will be the Greatest Ever is a bit of an overstretch.

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#93 dreman999
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The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

ChubbyGuy40

you mean November, 11.

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#94 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

Ravenchrome

Mass Effect 3 comes out next month? :o

I am sure ME3 is going to be a great entertainment product, but saying it will be the Greatest Ever is a bit of an overstretch.

*A giant thersher Maw suddenly bust out of the ground.*

*It attacks Ravenchrome and drags him underground and he is never seen again.*

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Demon's Souls

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#96 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

Heil68

Mass Effect 3 comes out next month? :o

Sorry but we're talking about RPGs here, not TPSes.

The Witcher 2 = GREATEST RPG OF ALL TIME!!

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#97 madsnakehhh
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Nah, Chrono Trigger is the true greatest RPG ever made.

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#98 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The greatest RPG ever made will come out next month.

ChubbyGuy40

Mass Effect 3 comes out next month? :o

Sorry but we're talking about RPGs here, not TPSes.

The Witcher 2 = GREATEST RPG OF ALL TIME!!

Guess someone didn't here them say thar they are adding richer rpg feature to ME3. Also, Wither 2 loss the crown because it in 16:9.

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#99 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Mass Effect 3 comes out next month? :odreman999

Sorry but we're talking about RPGs here, not TPSes.

The Witcher 2 = GREATEST RPG OF ALL TIME!!

Guess someone didn't here them say thar they are adding richer rpg feature to ME3. Also, Wither 2 loss the crown because it in 16:9.

Even if they made it richer it'd still be homeless.

TW2 conference today. Lets wait for that first. Tweets can mean nothing and devs often say the wrong thing.

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Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines.