Has A FPS Ever Surpass 007(N64) Yet? 3rd person> 1st person Shooters

After playing the short Killzone 2 demo, i still personally think if u played 007(N64) u played them all. 007 gameplay was gameplay style was so orginal. before 007, who ever heard of FPS? anyway, i have to play Call Of Duty 4/WAW since i never played them before. By looking at the videos, it seems those games have great level design.

So as of now 3rd Person shooters>>>>>> 1st person Shooters.

After playing the short Killzone 2 demo, i still personally think if u played 007(N64) u played them all. 007 gameplay was gameplay style was so orginal. before 007, who ever heard of FPS? anyway, i have to play Call Of Duty 4/WAW since i never played them before. By looking at the videos, it seems those games have great level design.

So as of now 3rd Person shooters>>>>>> 1st person Shooters.

PSP107

Except Perfect Dark > 007. So case closed. The 9.9 speaks for itself. organic_machine

before 007, who ever heard of FPS?PSP107

How about the 10 billion people who played Doom?

Call of duty 4 and the Halo series would like to say Bonjour amigo.Hungry_Jello

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]Call of duty 4 and the Halo series would like to say Bonjour amigo.Juggernaut140

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]Call of duty 4 and the Halo series would like to say Bonjour amigo.organic_machine

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]Call of duty 4 and the Halo series would like to say Bonjour amigo.organic_machine

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] Perfect Dark>>>>>>>>Both of thosejfcundiff

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] Perfect Dark>>>>>>>>Both of thosejfcundiff

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] Perfect Dark>>>>>>>>Both of thosejfcundiff

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

Just because my tastes are different does not mean I started gaming now. I think Halo did a lot for the FPS series. It sounds like your letting nostlagia get in the way of your thinking.

before 007, who ever heard of FPS? PSP107

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

Juggernaut140

I know. Whenever they throw around their current gen FPS and I reference Turok 2 or Perfect Dark, the response I get is "Single Analogue LOL!!" Some people can be so ignorant.

After playing the short Killzone 2 demo, i still personally think if u played 007(N64) u played them all. 007 gameplay was gameplay style was so orginal. before 007, who ever heard of FPS? anyway, i have to play Call Of Duty 4/WAW since i never played them before. By looking at the videos, it seems those games have great level design.

So as of now 3rd Person shooters>>>>>> 1st person Shooters.

PSP107

You ever heard of the Doom games? Or maybe Duke Nukem 3d, Quake, or Wolfenstein 3d? All incredibly popular FPS's before the release of Goldeneye.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

mitu123

I started in 93 when I got an SNES for my birthday along with Super Mario World. I missed out on the N64 because I had a Playstation, but I know how important the Goldeneye games were to console FPS'es. My first FPS though was Rainbow Six when that came out and that game floored me.

The gameplay in Goldeneye is just plain bad now.

And it wasn't so great back when it was new either.

The framerate was bad, and the N64 controler ruined the experience.

The only additions which was a good additions that perfect dark added was user profiles and bots.

I still dont understand the campaign structure

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"] I bet many of the people on here are in that 14-16 range and were not playing games during that time. jfcundiff

I started in 93 when I got an SNES for my birthday along with Super Mario World. I missed out on the N64 because I had a Playstation, but I know how important the Goldeneye games were to console FPS'es. My first FPS though was Rainbow Six when that came out and that game floored me.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"] I bet many of the people on here are in that 14-16 range and were not playing games during that time. organic_machine

I know. Whenever they throw around their current gen FPS and I reference Turok 2 or Perfect Dark, the response I get is "Single Analogue LOL!!" Some people can be so ignorant.

Whenever people throw around their very veery very old games and I reference Halo, the response I get is "New Gen LOL old Gen forever!!11!!" Some people can be very ignorant.

[QUOTE="PSP107"]before 007, who ever heard of FPS?Cherokee_Jack

How about the 10 billion people who played Doom?

After playing the short Killzone 2 demo, i still personally think if u played 007(N64) u played them all. 007 gameplay was gameplay style was so orginal. before 007, who ever heard of FPS? anyway, i have to play Call Of Duty 4/WAW since i never played them before. By looking at the videos, it seems those games have great level design.

So as of now 3rd Person shooters>>>>>> 1st person Shooters.

PSP107

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="mitu123"] That explains everything, I started gaming at age 5(with NES) and I love Perfect Dark even to this day.OICWUTUDIDTHAR

I started in 93 when I got an SNES for my birthday along with Super Mario World. I missed out on the N64 because I had a Playstation, but I know how important the Goldeneye games were to console FPS'es. My first FPS though was Rainbow Six when that came out and that game floored me.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"] I bet many of the people on here are in that 14-16 range and were not playing games during that time. jfcundiff

I started in 93 when I got an SNES for my birthday along with Super Mario World. I missed out on the N64 because I had a Playstation, but I know how important the Goldeneye games were to console FPS'es. My first FPS though was Rainbow Six when that came out and that game floored me.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"] Perfect Dark>>>>>>>>Both of thosejfcundiff

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

Whenever people throw around their very veery very old games and I reference Halo, the response I get is "New Gen LOL old Gen forever!!11!!" Some people can be very ignorant.

Hungry_Jello

Here comes the "It's only nostalgia" argument. :roll:

I am not asking you to go back and play every single FPS that came out before 1999. You think Halo is this wonderful thing? Fantastic. It's a great game. All I am asking is that you respect the games that came before and led the path. To simply write old games off and label anyone who likes them as being purely nostalgic is foolish at best.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"] I bet many of the people on here are in that 14-16 range and were not playing games during that time. organic_machine

I know. Whenever they throw around their current gen FPS and I reference Turok 2 or Perfect Dark, the response I get is "Single Analogue LOL!!" Some people can be so ignorant.

Single analogue was bad.

All of those FPS games on the N64 would have been so much better if they where made for the PSX and the original dualshock.

Single analogue was bad.

All of those FPS games on the N64 would have been so much better if they where made for the PSX and the original dualshock.

swazidoughman

But it was playable. And it was enjoyable. I am not saying single is better than dual, it's not. But some people act like single cannot be enjoyed and that's just wrong.

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Whenever people throw around their very veery very old games and I reference Halo, the response I get is "New Gen LOL old Gen forever!!11!!" Some people can be very ignorant.

organic_machine

Here comes the "It's only nostalgia" argument. :roll:

I am not asking you to go back and play every single FPS that came out before 1999. You think Halo is this wonderful thing? Fantastic. It's a great game. All I am asking is that you respect the games that came before and led the path. To simply write old games off and label anyone who likes them as being purely nostalgic is foolish at best.

LOL man, I love the old games. I did not come here to bash any old games. The TC asked if anything has surpassed 007 and gave him my opinion out of many. Halo. In my opinion Halo has surpassed 007 in every way. Of course its just my opinion. Crysis, Resistance 2, 007 for gamecube have also passed that game to me. BTW, you guys started gettin angry at me just because I thought a current era game was better than a past gen game. I in no way said 007 sucks halo all the way.

funny how alot of ppl are using PC games in their arguments. But come on, FPS on console was non existence before 007. Also alot of console gamers wernt PC gamers so they missed out on those Dooms and other stuff.PSP107

Actually, Turok was released earlier... ;)

funny how alot of ppl are using PC games in their arguments. But come on, FPS on console was non existence before 007. Also alot of console gamers wernt PC gamers so they missed out on those Dooms and other stuff.PSP107

[QUOTE="PSP107"]funny how alot of ppl are using PC games in their arguments. But come on, FPS on console was non existence before 007. Also alot of console gamers wernt PC gamers so they missed out on those Dooms and other stuff.lowe0

After playing the short Killzone 2 demo, i still personally think if u played 007(N64) u played them all. 007 gameplay was gameplay style was so orginal. before 007, who ever heard of FPS? anyway, i have to play Call Of Duty 4/WAW since i never played them before. By looking at the videos, it seems those games have great level design.

So as of now 3rd Person shooters>>>>>> 1st person Shooters.

PSP107

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="PSP107"]funny how alot of ppl are using PC games in their arguments. But come on, FPS on console was non existence before 007. Also alot of console gamers wernt PC gamers so they missed out on those Dooms and other stuff.dgsag

So true DOOM was in a lot of systems SNES, PC, Jaguar, 3DO, 32X if I remember correctly.

The real question is whether or not an FPS will surpass Goldeney or Perfect Dark for that matter in details.

Hit reaction animations of the enemies, and shooting guns out of hands are just two aspects of the said games that have yet to be replicated in 'modern' shooters.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

I agree! Sometimes I wonder if half of SW started gaming last gen or something. Nobody seems to know their roots!

Hungry_Jello

Just because my tastes are different does not mean I started gaming now. I think Halo did a lot for the FPS series. It sounds like your letting nostlagia get in the way of your thinking.

Alot of people do that these days....