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#1 ghostwarrior786
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there have been quite a few new sandbox games this gen which i personally found more fun then GTA 4. just cause 2, mafia 2 (although it isn't a new franchise), saints row are all better games than GTA 4 and i will never understand how that game got rated 'perfect'. the game is just so boring compared to just just cause 2 and the story in mafia 2 is better.

i think GTA has been dethroned by just cause 2 but GTA 5 will probably destory all games,i just hope it is more like san andreas because that is one of the best games ever imo.

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#2 Chris_Williams
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anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

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#3 ChubbyGuy40
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anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

Chris_Williams

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

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#4 Pug-Nasty
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Sandbox games are a dying breed. At least they are for me, as there's just not much fun to be had with them.

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#5 theuncharted34
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it doesn't take much to beat GTA4.

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#6 Grawse
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Just Cause 2 on PC destroys GTA4.

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#7 ShadowMoses900
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I honestly thought that GTA4 was a ste p back in the series, I mean San Andreas was just SO much better and everyone was hyped to get a nex gen sequel and we were all expecting this AMAZINGFUN AWESOME GAME that would be so much better... but instead we got GTA4. After you beat the story of GTA4 there was nothing to do, and while the game may have been a technical achievement it was from a gameplay perspective a let down IMO.

Just Cause 2 is the new next gen king of open sandbox games IMO.

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#8 TheEroica  Moderator
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anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

Chris_Williams
wow what a perfect answer... Doritos Crash Course on XBL is more fun than GTA4... I hated GTA4 with my very core.
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#9 TheEroica  Moderator
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Does Assassins Creed count as open world game? because if it does, I pick that...

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#10 turtlethetaffer
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Yes, by Just Cause 2. Let me tell you something. Messing around in GTAIV= decent fun. Messing around in Just cause 2 = hours of "OH MY GOD I'M SURFING ON AN AIRPLANE!" and related things.

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#11 Mr-Espresso
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GTA 4 was just another example at how much developers are riding the name of popular franchises in order to squeeze every last drop of money they can out of it. GTA 4 was so boring, its amazing how much of a step back it was from San Andreas which was one of the most solid games ever made.

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#12 15strong
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

ChubbyGuy40

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

HAHAHAHAHA...... wait, you're serious.

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#13 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

ChubbyGuy40

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

No, and no.
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#14 savagetwinkie
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well fun is a subjective term, critics don't really rate how "fun" a game is, but how well the mechanics work to define a solid experience, while games like just cause 2, saints row, can be more fun, (i disagree with mafia 2 being more fun), they are definitely not as fleshed out experiences as gta4 is.
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#15 MrJack3690
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No, nothing ever will. GTA IV was great, despite being disappointing and lacking content when compared to SA.

If the gunplay is even more refined than in RDR, and there's things to do, stuff to spend the money on, and more over the top fun in the next GTA, it'll be amazing.

Just Cause 2 is pure stupid fun, and I love it, but overall I'd still say it's not as good as GTA IV, definitely not as good as past GTA games. Still amazing though.

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#16 Lucianu
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I thought it was dethroned by other games in the same st yle, after GTA IV turned out to be a complete failure compared to SA.

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#17 POPEYE1716
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Yea Just Cause 2. it was a sleeper, but by far the best. free falling off a mountain is awesome

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#18 drinkerofjuice
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

SaltyMeatballs

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

No, and no.

I second this. GTA4 was some of the most FUN I've had this gen.
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#19 eboyishere
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all they have to do is remake san andreas BAM they will be on top again
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#20 JohnF111
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I honestly thought that GTA4 was a ste p back in the series, I mean San Andreas was just SO much better and everyone was hyped to get a nex gen sequel and we were all expecting this AMAZINGFUN AWESOME GAME that would be so much better... but instead we got GTA4. After you beat the story of GTA4 there was nothing to do, and while the game may have been a technical achievement it was from a gameplay perspective a let down IMO.

Just Cause 2 is the new next gen king of open sandbox games IMO.

ShadowMoses900
It wasn't even a technical achievement, it was terribly optimized, i'm surprised they used any technology on that game at all... But atleast they've had a few years now to get the engine running a lot better and GTA 5 should be the one where we get San Andreas gameplay back after every forum in the world i think complains and mentions how bad it is... I hope they lose the damn realism aspect stupid mobile-phones and going bowling with your mate who hates you if you say no... Terrible system.
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Mafia 2 is a pathetic imitation of GTAIV and should never be put in the same bracket. GTAIV is a vast improvement on San Andreas. Its more refined, hits the mark more often by removing a lot of the rubbish. Its Grand Theft Auto, not Grand Theft Aerial. The best sandbox game so far!
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#22 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I honestly thought that GTA4 was a ste p back in the series, I mean San Andreas was just SO much better and everyone was hyped to get a nex gen sequel and we were all expecting this AMAZINGFUN AWESOME GAME that would be so much better... but instead we got GTA4. After you beat the story of GTA4 there was nothing to do, and while the game may have been a technical achievement it was from a gameplay perspective a let down IMO.

Just Cause 2 is the new next gen king of open sandbox games IMO.

JohnF111

It wasn't even a technical achievement, it was terribly optimized, i'm surprised they used any technology on that game at all... But atleast they've had a few years now to get the engine running a lot better and GTA 5 should be the one where we get San Andreas gameplay back after every forum in the world i think complains and mentions how bad it is... I hope they lose the damn realism aspect stupid mobile-phones and going bowling with your mate who hates you if you say no... Terrible system.

i hope so too

i think vice city will come first tho..i think san andreas will be pushed for next gen imo

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#23 aGOODdude
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Nope. Only GTA V can dethrone GTA IV.

I know it's very cool for hipsters to hate GTA IV and all, but the fact of the matter is that it remains "throned".

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#24 burgeg
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San Andreas is still the undisputed king of sandbox games. No sandbox game since has even come close to matching the overall package of San Andreas. GTA IV has arguably been dethroned by games like the SR series and Just Cause 2 when it comes to how fun the game is. Still, that was one game. I guarantee you when GTA V comes out, Rockstar will have another hit and the GTA series will be back with a bang. Rockstar have learnt their lesson and I have no doubt GTA V will end up being the game of the generation. I also wouldn't bet against Rockstar finally topping San Andreas.

Of course in terms of sales even GTA IV hasn't been dethroned this generation. And GTA never will. The next GTA could be even worse than GTA IV, and it wouldn't matter. It would still sell over 20 million copies on name alone and no other sandbox franchise will ever come close to competing with GTA in terms of sales.

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#25 TheMoreYouOwn
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The first Infamous dethroned it. And then the first Infamous was dethroned by the sequel. So at present time, the sandbox game king is Infamous 2.

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#26 lordreaven
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JC 2 was severely under rated imo. The amount of stupid fun in it was crazy.

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#27 Lto_thaG
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Nah,not really.

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#28 Chris_Williams
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Nope. Only GTA V can dethrone GTA IV.

I know it's very cool for hipsters to hate GTA IV and all, but the fact of the matter is that it remains "throned".

aGOODdude
i'm a big big big fan of the gta series and GTA IV was still boring and not fun for me and many others agree. if gta V is like gta iv then i'm going to skip it, not going to pay 60 bucks for a game that i have to force myself to go through and only play once.
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#29 chocolate1325
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San Andreas is still the best in the series.

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#30 lordreaven
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Nah,not really.

Lto_thaG

JC 2 deathmapping

Seriously, look at that.

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#31 AndyAlfredo
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I think if it hasn't been yet, Saints Row: The Third will definitely do it.

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#32 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Nah,not really.

lordreaven

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/27/just-cause-2-video-maps-every-in-game-death-in-one-haunting-landscape/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0 Seriously, look at that.

It's a big map,I know. Doesn't make it better than GTA.
I love JC2.

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#33 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Nah,not really.

Lto_thaG

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/27/just-cause-2-video-maps-every-in-game-death-in-one-haunting-landscape/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0 Seriously, look at that.

It's a big map,I know. Doesn't make it better than GTA.
I love JC2.

No, that map in that vid is all dots of where people died by crashing into the terrain. Most interesting is all the dots at the top of teh map.

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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/27/just-cause-2-video-maps-every-in-game-death-in-one-haunting-landscape/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0 Seriously, look at that.lordreaven

It's a big map,I know. Doesn't make it better than GTA.
I love JC2.

No, that map in that vid is all dots of where people did by crashing into the terrain. Most interesting is all the dots at the top of teh map.

Yeah,it's cool,but I don't see how that makes it better than GTA.

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#35 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] It's a big map,I know. Doesn't make it better than GTA.
I love JC2.

Lto_thaG

No, that map in that vid is all dots of where people did by crashing into the terrain. Most interesting is all the dots at the top of teh map.

Yeah,it's cool,but I don't see how that makes it better than GTA.

Because GTA IV has no planes :P

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

drinkerofjuice

No, and no.

I second this. GTA4 was some of the most FUN I've had this gen.

Same here. GTA4 is the only GTA title I didn't grow bored of after 10 hours of gameplay (besides GTA SA)

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#37 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] No, that map in that vid is all dots of where people did by crashing into the terrain. Most interesting is all the dots at the top of teh map.

lordreaven

Yeah,it's cool,but I don't see how that makes it better than GTA.

Because GTA IV has no planes :P

Aah,got it. Yeah,but in JC you need planes.The map is effing big.
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[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] No, and no.jasonharris48

I second this. GTA4 was some of the most FUN I've had this gen.

Same here. GTA4 is the only GTA title I didn't grow bored of after 10 hours of gameplay (besides GTA SA)

This. Vastly superior to San Andreas.
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#39 JuarN18
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GTA 4 was just another example at how much developers are riding the name of popular franchises in order to squeeze every last drop of money they can out of it.Mr-Espresso

You know that GTA4 is the most expensive game of all time?

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#40 dom2000
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

15strong

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

HAHAHAHAHA...... wait, you're serious.

I would like to hope so Mafia 2 was brilliant...gta4 not so much so!
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#41 coolkid93
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I wouldn't say GTA IV is "dethroned". I still consider it the best GTA yet and I find it better than all the games you've posted. That's just my opinion.
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#42 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="lordreaven"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Yeah,it's cool,but I don't see how that makes it better than GTA.

Because GTA IV has no planes :P

Aah,got it. Yeah,but in JC you need planes.The map is effing big.

Trust me, Airplane Surfing into a army base is loads of fun. Though I prefer the good old "HEY BUDDY! WANT A FREE GRENADE?" Which involves me running at them with a (active) grenade.
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#43 dom2000
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Mafia 2 is a pathetic imitation of GTAIV and should never be put in the same bracket. GTAIV is a vast improvement on San Andreas. Its more refined, hits the mark more often by removing a lot of the rubbish. Its Grand Theft Auto, not Grand Theft Aerial. The best sandbox game so far! biggest_loser
Um Mafia 2 clearly does not try to imitate gta4 and plays very different...i dont know wat game u were playing!
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#44 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Because GTA IV has no planes :P

lordreaven

Aah,got it. Yeah,but in JC you need planes.The map is effing big.

Trust me, Airplane Surfing into a army base is loads of fun. Though I prefer the good old "HEY BUDDY! WANT A FREE GRENADE?" Which involves me running at them with a (active) grenade.

Yeah,I know.It's a fun game.

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#45 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Aah,got it. Yeah,but in JC you need planes.The map is effing big.Lto_thaG

Trust me, Airplane Surfing into a army base is loads of fun. Though I prefer the good old "HEY BUDDY! WANT A FREE GRENADE?" Which involves me running at them with a (active) grenade.

Yeah,I know.It's a fun game.

So now you know why your heretical praisings of GTA IV are wrong :P.
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#46 millerlight89
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None of those games are better. Saints Row 2........ IDK what people's love here is about that game, but it sucks ass.
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#47 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] Trust me, Airplane Surfing into a army base is loads of fun. Though I prefer the good old "HEY BUDDY! WANT A FREE GRENADE?" Which involves me running at them with a (active) grenade.lordreaven

Yeah,I know.It's a fun game.

So now you know why your heretical praisings of GTA IV are wrong :P.

No,not that.GTA4 is my game of the gen. I like JC2 a lot.
But it's not GTA4.

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#48 millerlight89
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Mafia 2 is a pathetic imitation of GTAIV and should never be put in the same bracket. GTAIV is a vast improvement on San Andreas. Its more refined, hits the mark more often by removing a lot of the rubbish. Its Grand Theft Auto, not Grand Theft Aerial. The best sandbox game so far! biggest_loser
Mafia 2 was never a sandbox game, the developers have stated this many times. So you are 100% wrong, it is no where near imitation.
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#49 heretrix
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there have been quite a few new sandbox games this gen which i personally found more fun then GTA 4. just cause 2, mafia 2 (although it isn't a new franchise), saints row are all better games than GTA 4 and i will never understand how that game got rated 'perfect'. the game is just so boring compared to just just cause 2 and the story in mafia 2 is better.

i think GTA has been dethroned by just cause 2 but GTA 5 will probably destory all games,i just hope it is more like san andreas because that is one of the best games ever imo.

ghostwarrior786

None of those games you mentioned are better than GTA 4. And yes, I've played them all to completion.

They all have some elements that are better but the total package falls a bit short in all of them.

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#50 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Yeah,I know.It's a fun game.

Lto_thaG

So now you know why your heretical praisings of GTA IV are wrong :P.

No,not that.GTA4 is my game of the gen. I like JC2 a lot.
But it's not GTA4.

Why you speak blasphamy? Don't make get Inquisitorial on you :x