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#51 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="ghostwarrior786"]

there have been quite a few new sandbox games this gen which i personally found more fun then GTA 4. just cause 2, mafia 2 (although it isn't a new franchise), saints row are all better games than GTA 4 and i will never understand how that game got rated 'perfect'. the game is just so boring compared to just just cause 2 and the story in mafia 2 is better.

i think GTA has been dethroned by just cause 2 but GTA 5 will probably destory all games,i just hope it is more like san andreas because that is one of the best games ever imo.

heretrix

None of those games you mentioned are better than GTA 4. And yes, I've played them all to completion.

They all have some elements that are better but the total package falls a bit short in all of them.

I have to agree 100%. Some of those games do do certain things better, but fall flat on their face in other areas. GTA 4 is the better overall package.
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#52 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"] So now you know why your heretical praisings of GTA IV are wrong :P.lordreaven

No,not that.GTA4 is my game of the gen. I like JC2 a lot.
But it's not GTA4.

Why you speak blasphamy? Don't make get Inquisitorial on you :x

:lol:
Would it make you happy if I say Rico's one liners are better than Nico's :P

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#53 ghostwarrior786
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="ghostwarrior786"]

there have been quite a few new sandbox games this gen which i personally found more fun then GTA 4. just cause 2, mafia 2 (although it isn't a new franchise), saints row are all better games than GTA 4 and i will never understand how that game got rated 'perfect'. the game is just so boring compared to just just cause 2 and the story in mafia 2 is better.

i think GTA has been dethroned by just cause 2 but GTA 5 will probably destory all games,i just hope it is more like san andreas because that is one of the best games ever imo.

millerlight89

None of those games you mentioned are better than GTA 4. And yes, I've played them all to completion.

They all have some elements that are better but the total package falls a bit short in all of them.

I have to agree 100%. Some of those games do do certain things better, but fall flat on their face in other areas. GTA 4 is the better overall package.

just cause 2 has some very high points but still needs alot of improvement. some parts of the game are just amazing wheras gta 4 was average throughout. gta 4 does everything well but nothing exceptional imo

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#54 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] No,not that.GTA4 is my game of the gen. I like JC2 a lot.
But it's not GTA4.

Lto_thaG

Why you speak blasphamy? Don't make get Inquisitorial on you :x

:lol:
Would it make you happy if I say Rico's one liners are better than Nico's :P

Maybe.....*sniff*....Maybe.

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#55 T1GERBLOOD
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GTA has been dethroned by RDR. How can you say Just Cause 2 is the king when RDR does everything better
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#56 lordreaven
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GTA has been dethroned by RDR. How can you say Just Cause 2 is the king when RDR does everything betterT1GERBLOOD
*hits T1gerblood with newspaper* NO! Bad........Bad.

EDIT: It's a joke post, before anyone gets any funny ideas.

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#57 SPYDER0416
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As fun as other sandbox games are, none can beat the GTA series. They started it and keep redefining sandbox gaming.

Sure Saints Row is a blast, but it lacks polish and story. Mafia II might be polished and have an alright story, but its incredibly linear and short and unsandboxy.

Face it, GTA IV covered almost every aspect of sandbox gaming and what it didn't, the expansions did. Crazy fun with weapons? BoGT. More linear drama? TLaD.

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but anyone who doesn't like GTA IV is either not mature enough to appreciate the changes and improvements to the formula it had over previous (much more shallow) games, or is trolling, in my opinion.

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#58 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="ghostwarrior786"]

there have been quite a few new sandbox games this gen which i personally found more fun then GTA 4. just cause 2, mafia 2 (although it isn't a new franchise), saints row are all better games than GTA 4 and i will never understand how that game got rated 'perfect'. the game is just so boring compared to just just cause 2 and the story in mafia 2 is better.

i think GTA has been dethroned by just cause 2 but GTA 5 will probably destory all games,i just hope it is more like san andreas because that is one of the best games ever imo.

millerlight89

None of those games you mentioned are better than GTA 4. And yes, I've played them all to completion.

They all have some elements that are better but the total package falls a bit short in all of them.

I have to agree 100%. Some of those games do do certain things better, but fall flat on their face in other areas. GTA 4 is the better overall package.

idk miller you sound jelly8)

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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Mafia 2 is a pathetic imitation of GTAIV and should never be put in the same bracket. GTAIV is a vast improvement on San Andreas. Its more refined, hits the mark more often by removing a lot of the rubbish. Its Grand Theft Auto, not Grand Theft Aerial. The best sandbox game so far! millerlight89
Mafia 2 was never a sandbox game, the developers have stated this many times. So you are 100% wrong, it is no where near imitation.

Its a poor sandbox game. They spent all that time developing a city with nothing in it. That said the three shops it does have are VERY similar to GTA. Even the interface, like the mini map and the icons are alike. And thats before we even touch on the story. If it was never going to be a sandbox game why'd they spend so much time developing such a large city?
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#60 SPYDER0416
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GTA has been dethroned by RDR. How can you say Just Cause 2 is the king when RDR does everything betterT1GERBLOOD

I like RDR much more, but I wouldn't say EVERYTHING better.

I mean, it doesn't do aerial combat better. So... there's that. Though I do prefer the gameplay, side missions and combat of RDR myself, as well as the amazing story.

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#61 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"] Its a poor sandbox game. They spent all that time developing a city with nothing in it. That said the three shops it does have are VERY similar to GTA. Even the interface, like the mini map and the icons are alike. And thats before we even touch on the story. If it was never going to be a sandbox game why'd they spend so much time developing such a large city?

Well the developers said it was never meant to be a sandbox game. I hope we aren't saying they are similar due to the mini map. You would have to ask them why they developer an open city. However, it is not a sandbox game ;)
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#62 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="heretrix"]None of those games you mentioned are better than GTA 4. And yes, I've played them all to completion.

They all have some elements that are better but the total package falls a bit short in all of them.

ghostwarrior786

I have to agree 100%. Some of those games do do certain things better, but fall flat on their face in other areas. GTA 4 is the better overall package.

just cause 2 has some very high points but still needs alot of improvement. some parts of the game are just amazing wheras gta 4 was average throughout. gta 4 does everything well but nothing exceptional imo

Just Cause 2 is the prime example of a sandbox game. It offers you a lot of fun stuff to do on your own. However, the story, missions, characters, driving is all pretty sub par. I take back the driving it is a hit or a miss. Some cars feel wonderful, but most feel like crap. The motorcycles, and tanks are the only thing worth driving on the ground imo. It is a great game to have mindless fun, but that;s about it.
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GTA 4 is pretty bad. Got it day 1 and stopped playing like half way through, its just not fun like 3, Vice City, or S:A.
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#64 TheAcountantMan
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I thought Saints Row 3 already dethroned it in their gameplay trailers? GTA 4 on PC, needs mods to look as good as Saints Row 3 looks straight out of the box on 360.
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#65 UnrealLegend
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Only GTA V will dethrone it 8)

Haters gonna hate.

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Just Cause 2 on PC destroys GTA4.

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just cause 2 on pc can be such an amazing experience with the correct mods, heck even on the consoles its a game thats just a boat load of fun to play :P
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#67 campzor
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gta includes vice city... it'll take a lot to dethrone that..... gta4 stinks
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I just got JC2 off steam for $5.00

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#69 EggHeadMan
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nope. Its the highest scoring game this gen on metacritic
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#70 tagyhag
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Anything as long as it's fun. :P I can't see the point to GTA 4 unless it's the coop free roam. It tries to hard to be "mature" and "serious" and just falls flat on its face. Then again I'm not one to fall for the BS.
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#71 vashkey
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I haven't played Mafia 2 or Just Cause 2 but Saint Row 1 and 2 sure as hell weren't near as good as GTA IV. Red Dead Redemption is in the running but thats mostly because it's just Grand Theft Auto IV in the old west. Like, litterally, it's the same engine and the same gameplay.
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#72 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="aGOODdude"]

Nope. Only GTA V can dethrone GTA IV.

I know it's very cool for hipsters to hate GTA IV and all, but the fact of the matter is that it remains "throned".

Chris_Williams
i'm a big big big fan of the gta series and GTA IV was still boring and not fun for me and many others agree. if gta V is like gta iv then i'm going to skip it, not going to pay 60 bucks for a game that i have to force myself to go through and only play once.

I have to agree and I hate hipsters more than you can imagine, but if dispensing my opinion on GTA4 labels me a hipster than so be it... I bought it day 1, I was soooo excited. I love love love Vice City and thought San Andreas was a close second and then boom, GTA4 and all its royal boardom gets thrown in my lap and I just couldnt stomach it. every damn thing in that game was a chore... I got the same enjoyment out of the tasks in that game as I do when my wife leaves me a "honey do" list when she leaves for work...
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I thought Saints Row 3 already dethroned it in their gameplay trailers? GTA 4 on PC, needs mods to look as good as Saints Row 3 looks straight out of the box on 360.TheAcountantMan

Hitting people across the face with a rubber penis makes a game better?

A game from 2007 dosen't look as good as a game from 2011? Shocking.

Please stop comparing the trash that is Saint's Row with GTA.

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[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]I thought Saints Row 3 already dethroned it in their gameplay trailers? GTA 4 on PC, needs mods to look as good as Saints Row 3 looks straight out of the box on 360.15strong

Hitting people across the face with a rubber penis makes a game better?

A game from 2007 dosen't look as good as a game from 2011? Shocking.

Please stop comparing the trash that is Saint's Row with GTA.

trash? I thought we were comparing which game was more fun... seems to me not too long ago, GTA had the makeup of what saints row does consistantly now... I used to love decapitating little old ladies from a football field away in Vice City... just because GTA became more serious and mundane doesnt give it a holier than thou title over Saints....
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]I thought Saints Row 3 already dethroned it in their gameplay trailers? GTA 4 on PC, needs mods to look as good as Saints Row 3 looks straight out of the box on 360.TheEroica

Hitting people across the face with a rubber penis makes a game better?

A game from 2007 dosen't look as good as a game from 2011? Shocking.

Please stop comparing the trash that is Saint's Row with GTA.

trash? I thought we were comparing which game was more fun... seems to me not too long ago, GTA had the makeup of what saints row does consistantly now... I used to love decapitating little old ladies from a football field away in Vice City... just because GTA became more serious and mundane doesnt give it a holier than thou title over Saints....

Yes trash. When GTA had sexual or suggestive themes in it, they were in there for a purpose. I watch the debut gameplay for Saint's Row 3 and what do I see? A giant purple penis on display begging me to laugh. The developers are trying way too hard and there is really no purpose. Next, the player is punching npc's in the balls. That is the showcase and first impression they want to have. The thing that makes GTA special is the ability to switch between serious and over-the-top. They have a message behind many of their actions. They make a serious effort to include a gay man as a major character. When they do have male nudity they don't find every publisist on the planet and point it out. I'm not saying that GTA calculates every move it makes, but many are done with thought and reasoning behind them.

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#76 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

anything can dethrone gta 4 all it needs to be is FUN and bam

SaltyMeatballs

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

No, and no.

Yes and yes.

How anyone can find the GTA series/games enjoyable is beyond me.

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I'm a PC gamer and GTA IV was a very very bad console porton PCon top of which was terribly optimised on PC. So any game which doesn't screw up the gameplay and is fun is better than GTA IV. Just Cause 2 owns GTA IV anyday.

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#78 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

ChubbyGuy40

No, and no.

Yes and yes.

How anyone can find the GTA series/games enjoyable is beyond me.

Woah woah, I'm very anti-GTA 4, but the older games were superb. :x
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Woah woah, I'm very anti-GTA 4, but the older games were superb. :xtagyhag

San Andreas was the only one worth buying. The rest were rents just so you can see how bad they were.

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Hitting people across the face with a rubber penis makes a game better?

A game from 2007 dosen't look as good as a game from 2011? Shocking.

Please stop comparing the trash that is Saint's Row with GTA.

15strong

trash? I thought we were comparing which game was more fun... seems to me not too long ago, GTA had the makeup of what saints row does consistantly now... I used to love decapitating little old ladies from a football field away in Vice City... just because GTA became more serious and mundane doesnt give it a holier than thou title over Saints....

Yes trash. When GTA had sexual or suggestive themes in it, they were in there for a purpose. I watch the debut gameplay for Saint's Row 3 and what do I see? A giant purple penis on display begging me to laugh. The developers are trying way too hard and there is really no purpose. Next, the player is punching npc's in the balls. That is the showcase and first impression they want to have. The thing that makes GTA special is the ability to switch between serious and over-the-top. They have a message behind many of their actions. They make a serious effort to include a gay man as a major character. When they do have male nudity they don't find every publisist on the planet and point it out. I'm not saying that GTA calculates every move it makes, but many are done with thought and reasoning behind them.

all points noted, but why cant SR separate itself from GTA a bit by being over the top? I saw the gameplay trailer and E3 demos and stuff too and I didnt even think about GTA, I thought more about how it looks like a really fun, not so serious approach to the sandbox game, something I wish GTA could execute a little better at this point and while yes I can very much appreciate the mature efforts by R* to weave a believable and heavier approach to story, I can also get behind a game that throws the kitchen sink at you and says "have fun"... I wouldnt call either trash.
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"] Woah woah, I'm very anti-GTA 4, but the older games were superb. :xChubbyGuy40

San Andreas was the only one worth buying. The rest were rents just so you can see how bad they were.

GTA: Vice City ? I thought it was pretty good game.

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#82 ChubbyGuy40
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GTA: Vice City ? I thought it was pretty good game.

harshv82

Vice City wasn't my cup of tea but I can see why others like it.

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[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]I thought Saints Row 3 already dethroned it in their gameplay trailers? GTA 4 on PC, needs mods to look as good as Saints Row 3 looks straight out of the box on 360.15strong

Hitting people across the face with a rubber penis makes a game better?

A game from 2007 dosen't look as good as a game from 2011? Shocking.

Please stop comparing the trash that is Saint's Row with GTA.

GTA IV came in 2008 though.
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] trash? I thought we were comparing which game was more fun... seems to me not too long ago, GTA had the makeup of what saints row does consistantly now... I used to love decapitating little old ladies from a football field away in Vice City... just because GTA became more serious and mundane doesnt give it a holier than thou title over Saints....TheEroica

Yes trash. When GTA had sexual or suggestive themes in it, they were in there for a purpose. I watch the debut gameplay for Saint's Row 3 and what do I see? A giant purple penis on display begging me to laugh. The developers are trying way too hard and there is really no purpose. Next, the player is punching npc's in the balls. That is the showcase and first impression they want to have. The thing that makes GTA special is the ability to switch between serious and over-the-top. They have a message behind many of their actions. They make a serious effort to include a gay man as a major character. When they do have male nudity they don't find every publisist on the planet and point it out. I'm not saying that GTA calculates every move it makes, but many are done with thought and reasoning behind them.

all points noted, but why cant SR separate itself from GTA a bit by being over the top? I saw the gameplay trailer and E3 demos and stuff too and I didnt even think about GTA, I thought more about how it looks like a really fun, not so serious approach to the sandbox game, something I wish GTA could execute a little better at this point and while yes I can very much appreciate the mature efforts by R* to weave a believable and heavier approach to story, I can also get behind a game that throws the kitchen sink at you and says "have fun"... I wouldnt call either trash.

I really find the premise of saint's Row to be dumb. Don't get me wrong I love fun games. Just Cause 2 was very fun. I just think Saint's Row tries to be fun and ends up on the dumber side.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] Woah woah, I'm very anti-GTA 4, but the older games were superb. :xharshv82

San Andreas was the only one worth buying. The rest were rents just so you can see how bad they were.

GTA: Vice City ? I thought it was pretty good game.

There isn't a bad GTA game in the main series. They are all fantastic :)
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

PRetty much this. Even Mafia 2 was a lot better.

ChubbyGuy40

No, and no.

Yes and yes.

How anyone can find the GTA series/games enjoyable is beyond me.

Just think of it as this.

How anyone can find Duke Nukem Forever enjoyable is beyond me.

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Yes trash. When GTA had sexual or suggestive themes in it, they were in there for a purpose. I watch the debut gameplay for Saint's Row 3 and what do I see? A giant purple penis on display begging me to laugh. The developers are trying way too hard and there is really no purpose. Next, the player is punching npc's in the balls. That is the showcase and first impression they want to have. The thing that makes GTA special is the ability to switch between serious and over-the-top. They have a message behind many of their actions. They make a serious effort to include a gay man as a major character. When they do have male nudity they don't find every publisist on the planet and point it out. I'm not saying that GTA calculates every move it makes, but many are done with thought and reasoning behind them.

15strong

all points noted, but why cant SR separate itself from GTA a bit by being over the top? I saw the gameplay trailer and E3 demos and stuff too and I didnt even think about GTA, I thought more about how it looks like a really fun, not so serious approach to the sandbox game, something I wish GTA could execute a little better at this point and while yes I can very much appreciate the mature efforts by R* to weave a believable and heavier approach to story, I can also get behind a game that throws the kitchen sink at you and says "have fun"... I wouldnt call either trash.

I really find the premise of saint's Row to be dumb. Don't get me wrong I love fun games. Just Cause 2 was very fun. I just think Saint's Row tries to be fun and ends up on the dumber side.

its deffinately the WWF of video games... silly and over the top unbelievableness... and Im no SR loyalist by any stretch, I just really didnt like GTA4 and i think im still frustrated about it. I just didnt have fun playing that game at all. it was a chore for me to play half of it.
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Just think of it as this.

How anyone can find Duke Nukem Forever enjoyable is beyond me.

15strong

At least I can see why people hate the game.

I cannot see any sort of appeal or fun in the GTA games.

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#90 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

Just think of it as this.

How anyone can find Duke Nukem Forever enjoyable is beyond me.

ChubbyGuy40

At least I can see why people hate the game.

I cannot see any sort of appeal or fun in the GTA games.

The fact that you don't appreciate the GTA games and gave Duke Nukem Forever an 8 sort of invalidates your opinion.

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#91 ChubbyGuy40
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The fact that you don't appreciate the GTA games and gave Duke Nukem Forever an 8 sort of invalidates your opinion.

15strong

And your opinion implying that GTA games have fun in them is invalid. GJ missing the whole point of my post.

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#92 WORDTOYOFACE
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gta's concept isnt too bad the gameplay was programmed poorly though control design choices so i always said **** THIS GAME.
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#93 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

The fact that you don't appreciate the GTA games and gave Duke Nukem Forever an 8 sort of invalidates your opinion.

ChubbyGuy40

And your opinion implying that GTA games have fun in them is invalid. GJ missing the whole point of my post.

Seriously, you think Duke Nukem Forever is a good game but call GTA games bad?

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#94 WORDTOYOFACE
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

The fact that you don't appreciate the GTA games and gave Duke Nukem Forever an 8 sort of invalidates your opinion.

15strong

And your opinion implying that GTA games have fun in them is invalid. GJ missing the whole point of my post.

Seriously, you think Duke Nukem Forever is a good game but call GTA games bad?

atleast dnf's controls dont 100% suck.
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In direct contradiction to alot of peoples posts, I don't think I've ever played a more fun game than GTA4.

Just sayin...

Must have played at least 600 hours in GTA4 and Episodes for Liberty, it still stuns me with it's awesomeness every time I start it up.

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#96 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

And your opinion implying that GTA games have fun in them is invalid. GJ missing the whole point of my post.

WORDTOYOFACE

Seriously, you think Duke Nukem Forever is a good game but call GTA games bad?

atleast dnf's controls dont 100% suck.

The rest of the games does.
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#97 WORDTOYOFACE
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In direct contradiction to alot of peoples posts, I don't think I've ever played a more fun game than GTA4.

Just sayin...

Must have played at least 600 hours in GTA4 and Episodes for Liberty, it still stuns me with it's awesomeness every time I start it up.

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controls disagree and say game sucks.
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#98 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="bad_fur_day"]

In direct contradiction to alot of peoples posts, I don't think I've ever played a more fun game than GTA4.

Just sayin...

Must have played at least 600 hours in GTA4 and Episodes for Liberty, it still stuns me with it's awesomeness every time I start it up.

WORDTOYOFACE
controls disagree and say game sucks.

Oh please, the controls don't suck. Let's use our main account though ;)
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#99 ChubbyGuy40
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Seriously, you think Duke Nukem Forever is a good game but call GTA games bad?

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Yep. Unlike reviewers, I wasn't offended at Halo jokes, toilet jokes, or women jokes. I played it and love it for what it is, not for what others wanted it to be.

Only GTA game that was worth a damn was San Andreas. GTA4 is the worst in the series.

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#100 ChubbyGuy40
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Oh please, the controls don't suck. Let's use our main account though ;)millerlight89

The only controls that don't suck are the helicopters. Rest of it is definitely suck though.