None of those games you mentioned are better than GTA 4. And yes, I've played them all to completion.[QUOTE="ghostwarrior786"]
there have been quite a few new sandbox games this gen which i personally found more fun then GTA 4. just cause 2, mafia 2 (although it isn't a new franchise), saints row are all better games than GTA 4 and i will never understand how that game got rated 'perfect'. the game is just so boring compared to just just cause 2 and the story in mafia 2 is better.
i think GTA has been dethroned by just cause 2 but GTA 5 will probably destory all games,i just hope it is more like san andreas because that is one of the best games ever imo.
heretrix
They all have some elements that are better but the total package falls a bit short in all of them.
I have to agree 100%. Some of those games do do certain things better, but fall flat on their face in other areas. GTA 4 is the better overall package.
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