Has Sony failed with the PS3 on any level?

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#101 BIOKILLER123
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next to no profit made for sony, 3 sales periods of losses, no profit at all from psn, less content on psn in arcade games dlc and full ps3 downloads compared to the direct competition, lower sales world wide total, lower software sales monthly and total world wide, less games released, less high scoring games.....the direct cause of going from the unquestioned dominate force in the game industry to 3rd place...

....*screams*IM FROM ZANARKAND!!!!!!!

Adamantium4k2

There is so much epic fail in your post that I'm not going to even bother correcting this fanboyish mess....

Not much to expect from him so good call.

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#102 yokofox33
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They aren't perfect, but I still support them. The launch was pretty bad, but they're recovered in my eyes. They are obviously in last place in sales (I think), but I'm happy with them.

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#103 donalbane
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[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] The X360 controller is awesome. The PS3's controller is 15 years old.khoofia_pika
360 controller = stallone's lips or adrian brody's nose

PS3 controller = PSOne controller

I prefer the 360 controller to the PS3's, but you must know you are neglecting the analog sticks, the wireless feature, pressure sensitive buttons and the 6axis technology.
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#104 Vinegar_Strokes
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the fat PS3 never turned a profit. so i guess its fair to say that was a failure.

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#105 EVOLV3
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I suppose the current biggest "failure" would be the removal of backwards compatability for newer models.

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#106 The_Gaming_Baby
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This gen, they have lost more than they have gained. I'm quite interested in what the PS4 has to offer.

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#107 Oil_Rope_Bombs
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[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

next to no profit made for sony, 3 sales periods of losses, no profit at all from psn, less content on psn in arcade games dlc and full ps3 downloads compared to the direct competition, lower sales world wide total, lower software sales monthly and total world wide, less games released, less high scoring games.....the direct cause of going from the unquestioned dominate force in the game industry to 3rd place...

....*screams*IM FROM ZANARKAND!!!!!!!

Let's see here, less high scoring games? Really? No profit from PSN? Really? Looks like someone doesn't have knowledge or just trolling.

This is Baker we're talking about. He'll hate on the PS3 on any chance he gets.
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#108 DerekLoffin
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Yes. They lost domination of the market, falling to 3rd place (although close overall), has been only minimally profitable, and probably most important of all fell to a distant 3rd place in NA. That's failure. It isn't a total failure, but it is a fail.
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#109 eboyishere
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There marketing has been so horrible for the entire gen.....kevin butler ads are still fresh but not enough

i mean Resistance 3 is coming out in 2 months, they should be ready to market the hell out of the game

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#110 BlbecekBobecek
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No, they made the best hardcore gamers console this generation, definitely not a fail for me :)

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#111 -Jashan-
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[QUOTE="Oil_rope_bombs"][QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

next to no profit made for sony, 3 sales periods of losses, no profit at all from psn, less content on psn in arcade games dlc and full ps3 downloads compared to the direct competition, lower sales world wide total, lower software sales monthly and total world wide, less games released, less high scoring games.....the direct cause of going from the unquestioned dominate force in the game industry to 3rd place...

....*screams*IM FROM ZANARKAND!!!!!!!

Let's see here, less high scoring games? Really? No profit from PSN? Really? Looks like someone doesn't have knowledge or just trolling.

This is Baker we're talking about. He'll hate on the PS3 on any chance he gets.

his avatar annoys me lol, and yeah he hates on the ps3 all the time guess hes still trying to justify the 360
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#112 Vari3ty
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In the beginning, yes they did. An overpriced console released a year after 360 hurt them bad at the start. Marketing was terrible. Launch titles were very underwhelming in the face of stiff competition. Ironically, Blu Ray may have been expensive, but its also the reason PS3 stayed close in those early years. People bought it cause it was the cheapest Blu Ray player on the market at the time. Of course its not how you fall, but how you get back up. Sony has done an incredible job and has turned things around in every area. They lowered the price to the competitions level. They secured a ton of awesome 1st party titles. They have outsold 360 head to head and continue to do so. The sales growth has prompted many 3rd party exclusives on 360 to switch to multiplatform. While Microsoft has sold out to the casual trend, Sony has stuck to its guns and continues to deliver amazing exclusives one after another. So what looked like a trainwreck has now turned into the console with all the momentum going forward.-ArchAngeL-777-

But the 360 continues to outsell the PS3...

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[QUOTE="Adamantium4k2"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

next to no profit made for sony, 3 sales periods of losses, no profit at all from psn, less content on psn in arcade games dlc and full ps3 downloads compared to the direct competition, lower sales world wide total, lower software sales monthly and total world wide, less games released, less high scoring games.....the direct cause of going from the unquestioned dominate force in the game industry to 3rd place...

....*screams*IM FROM ZANARKAND!!!!!!!

BIOKILLER123

There is so much epic fail in your post that I'm not going to even bother correcting this fanboyish mess....

Not much to expect from him so good call.

theres also a lot of truth there too... I think much of this thread is pointless however, its neigh impossible to get through to the cows.
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#114 BIOKILLER123
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[QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

[QUOTE="Adamantium4k2"]

There is so much epic fail in your post that I'm not going to even bother correcting this fanboyish mess....

TheEroica

Not much to expect from him so good call.

theres also a lot of truth there too... I think much of this thread is pointless however, its neigh impossible to get through to the cows.

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson for the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

But it's true, whatever chances he gets he's there.

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#115 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

Not much to expect from him so good call.

BIOKILLER123

theres also a lot of truth there too... I think much of this thread is pointless however, its neigh impossible to get through to the cows.

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson for the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

But it's true, whatever chances he gets he's there.

I cant read that... its gray on black. Im not attacking, dont worry, I just think our sony friends have become the most sensitive fanbase and I kinda dont know what to say to them anymore... I just dont know how you can spin the fact that this wasnt a great generation for sony financially any more.
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#116 ActicEdge
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Yes in the sense that I have other systems on my to own list before the PS3.

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#117 Promised_Trini
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

next to no profit made for sony, 3 sales periods of losses, no profit at all from psn, less content on psn in arcade games dlc and full ps3 downloads compared to the direct competition, lower sales world wide total, lower software sales monthly and total world wide, less games released, less high scoring games.....the direct cause of going from the unquestioned dominate force in the game industry to 3rd place...

....*screams*IM FROM ZANARKAND!!!!!!!

johnlennon28

sony failed to iimpress this guy........

He's the captain of the lemming army in SW...

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#118 BIOKILLER123
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[QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] theres also a lot of truth there too... I think much of this thread is pointless however, its neigh impossible to get through to the cows.TheEroica

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes, it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson with the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

I cant read that... its gray on black. Im not attacking, dont worry, I just think our sony friends have become the most sensitive fanbase and I kinda dont know what to say to them anymore... I just dont know how you can spin the fact that this wasnt a great generation for sony financially any more.

I'm not trying to spin anything around. Look at what I said in the quote above.

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#119 mariokart64fan
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compared to the nintendo wii both 360 and ps3 are on their life support lol

but compared to ds i d say all 3 are dead ,

fact is nothing tops 3ds/ds in terms of games , but wii has the sales to keep nintendo in the business for quite a long time and wii has been the only one that gained this gen well so did ms they sold 25m more then last gen , 100 eprcent increase but nintendo had the bigger increase of 125 percent

the ps3 how ever compared to ps2 has lost 100 percent of its fanbase

lets not forget psp how they botched that one , and psp go 3ds even out sold that thing and people still claim 3ds will fail , well id tell them it cant possibily do any worst then psp go haha

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#120 ShadowMoses900
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If you compare it to in terms of sales to the PS2's, then yes.

But as far as this gen is concerned, no. They have sold alot of units and are neck and neck with 360 sales world wide, also they have alot of good exclusives and get good multiplats too (which look the SAME despite invisible differences that fanboys like towhine about lol). And it also has a good online service too which is free, yes Live has some advantages but so does PSN.

They have done a few mistakes like the network hack and the 600$ system launch, but so have they're competitors (MS RROD etc...)

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#122 MuayThaiFTW
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The 360 and PS3 are so close in sales that if the PS3 is a failure then i can't even imagine how much fail the 360 is. The 360 got off to a quick start and the YEAR long advantage of coming out first IS a big reason for why the 360 "succeded" But its not how you start a race but how you finish And Sony has been on fire. hot on the heels of M$ and about to leave them in the dust. For the PS3 to even be so close to the 360 in sales DESPITE the 360 coming out first and being the only console on the market for more then a year IS a testament to how beautifully Sony has managed to turn things around and speaks volumes about the PS3 With a PS3 you get free online + blue ray + superior graphics + the far superior exclusive AND all at basically the same price as a 360 So you really can't go wrong with a PS3 It's always been the superior console and has far more bang for you buck then the 360. It deserves every ounce of hype and recongnition it has gotten. And I'm expecting it to over take the 360 once and for all by the time this gen winds down.
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#123 JohnF111
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Oh forgot to add they single handedly spudd out their security efforts on their online service putting the identiities and possibly the credit cards of ""77"" million users and caused the service to be taken down for 76 days total.

WilliamRLBaker
When was this? I must have been away that day. Hell yes they failed on a lot of levels, mostly from the start though with the lineup, price and architecture... Blatant arrogance thinking every PS2 owner was going to sell their wife and kids just t get this 4D at 120fps system. Idiocy knocked them back a few pegs into reality and now they are listening to the developers and their audience, look at the Vita it's everything the PS3 wasn't, easy architecure with a good lineup and features that PS3 still doesn't have. If i won't get flamed to say it i think it was good for Sony, they are now within ear range of their audience and developers instead of being on top of Mount Olympus detached from reality.
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#124 Renzokucant
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next to no profit made for sony, 3 sales periods of losses, no profit at all from psn, less content on psn in arcade games dlc and full ps3 downloads compared to the direct competition, lower sales world wide total, lower software sales monthly and total world wide, less games released, less high scoring games.....the direct cause of going from the unquestioned dominate force in the game industry to 3rd place...

....*screams*IM FROM ZANARKAND!!!!!!!

WilliamRLBaker
Aaand here he is right on queue
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#125 Warriorboy1990
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Sony never failed, they did a few mistakes but look at them now, stronger than ever and tons of exclusives, PS3 best cosole this gen for me.finalstar2007
Typical cow answer. They failed for about 2 years since launch until MGS4 came out, then they starting wiping out exclusives.
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#126 RR360DD
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Compare that to the 100 million + PS2s sold that dominated last gen. Now we have the PS3 thats in last place. They've failed on pretty much every level.

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#127 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

Not much to expect from him so good call.

BIOKILLER123

theres also a lot of truth there too... I think much of this thread is pointless however, its neigh impossible to get through to the cows.

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson for the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

But it's true, whatever chances he gets he's there.

And I dont think New York actually exists. Link or it didnt happen.

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#128 BIOKILLER123
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[QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] theres also a lot of truth there too... I think much of this thread is pointless however, its neigh impossible to get through to the cows.BlbecekBobecek

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson for the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

But it's true, whatever chances he gets he's there.

And I dont think New York actually exists. Link or it didnt happen.

Go find out that answer yourself there's always google.

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#129 Elann2008
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They didn't flat-out fail. Although the PS3 isn't near as profitable as the PS2, it has continued Sony's efforts in the gaming industry. Continuation.. Hopefully they could make a nice comeback with the PS4. Although, the PS3 has some strong exclusive titles I must say. Just not near as great as the PS2's library of games in full force.
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They haven't just failed, they EPIC failed with DS3. Outdated and completely garbage controller.
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#131 Mario1331
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in sales it failed thats really it

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#132 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson for the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

But it's true, whatever chances he gets he's there.

BIOKILLER123

And I dont think New York actually exists. Link or it didnt happen.

Go find out that answer yourself there's always google.

If you state something, you should back it up with a source. You cant just write "I dont thin Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3" and make conclusions from that statement without backing it up. Noone cares what you thinkwithout any relevant information.

I coul do it to, see: "I dont think MS recouped their development costs on the 360." Does anyone care what I think though? I dont think so, unless I back my statement up by some evidence.

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#133 BIOKILLER123
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[QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

And I dont think New York actually exists. Link or it didnt happen.

BlbecekBobecek

Go find out that answer yourself there's always google.

If you state something, you should back it up with a source. You cant just write "I dont thin Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3" and make conclusions from that statement without backing it up. Noone cares what you thinkwithout any relevant information.

I coul do it to, see: "I dont think MS recouped their development costs on the 360." Does anyone care what I think though? I dont think so, unless I back my statement up by some evidence.

When did I say without reasonable doubt? If I said they did or did not that would be a different story altogether. In other words I'm not sure. Selective reading FTL.

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#134 soulitane
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[QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] theres also a lot of truth there too... I think much of this thread is pointless however, its neigh impossible to get through to the cows.BlbecekBobecek

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson for the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

But it's true, whatever chances he gets he's there.

And I dont think New York actually exists. Link or it didnt happen.

This(while not the link I was looking for) shows they lost a lot of money on the PS3 (although it doesn't take into account their last fiscal year). What he says is not that unlikely, I somehow doubt they made all the money they lost this gen in the last fiscal year.

BTW I'm talking about the graph in that link.

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#135 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Yes, the PS3 is too expensive. Still. When you compare bundles of 360 and the PS3 the PS3 always has less games, less capacity and is $50 more expensive.
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#136 UnrealLegend
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They made a few mistakes, but they haven't failed unless they were expecting PS2 sales.

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#137 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="BIOKILLER123"]

You do realise I said this previously?

"I don't think Sony recouped their development costs on the PS3. To the shareholder/s would most likely look at it as a failure. They came from a huge high from the PS1 era and the PS2 era. In my eyes it was probably their arrogance that got the better of them. They should have learnt their lesson for the PSV and the PS4. IF not, then they haven't really learnt anything."

But it's true, whatever chances he gets he's there.

soulitane

And I dont think New York actually exists. Link or it didnt happen.

This(while not the link I was looking for) shows they lost a lot of money on the PS3 (although it doesn't take into account their last fiscal year). What he says is not that unlikely, I somehow doubt they made all the money they lost this gen in the last fiscal year.

BTW I'm talking about the graph in that link.

Wow. Never thought Nintendo is making THAT much money on Wii.

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#138 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

And I dont think New York actually exists. Link or it didnt happen.

BlbecekBobecek

This(while not the link I was looking for) shows they lost a lot of money on the PS3 (although it doesn't take into account their last fiscal year). What he says is not that unlikely, I somehow doubt they made all the money they lost this gen in the last fiscal year.

BTW I'm talking about the graph in that link.

Wow. Never thought Nintendo is making THAT much money on Wii.

It's not really that surprising since they always sell all their consoles for a profit, since they can't afford to lose money like MS and Sony. They also then have the highest selling gaming device ever (I think maybe the PS2 was a bit higher) the DS and on top of that they sold a lot of Wii's, all for a profit. Then also factor in all the games they sell like mario and Wii fit (which sold over 20 million copies), to me at least it came as not that much of a surprise :P