Has there been multiplat vid comparison between X1 and PS4?

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@danabo: Well IGN haven't commented on it yet and probably won't until they release the full reviews of the next gen versions. I suppose we will know what they think at that time.

If you don't mind me asking, what specifically about the ign xbox footage is better? If it is something like say the textures, can you provide sources other than your opinion that it is objectively better?

Go watch it, it just looks better. Cleaner, crisper, and more detailed on the Xbox One. And not a blurry mess like the PS4 version. I'm not delusional, though, this is on comparison videos and images on my PC monitor. When you get the two versions running side-by-side I'm sure the PS4 version performs a lot better, as press reviews have indicated. Also, it's amusing to me that certain people care about the difference so much.

Well how about this. Would you agree that IGNs video player will not output either video in their optimal state? Personally, until I see uncompressed HD video comparisons, I won't be making any judgment on what version will be better. This is also why I put more stock in the written articles at this point due to the more objective nature.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lspjyu31Joo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RO46byQtI

Yeah sure X1 won the BF4 comparison, sure. *rolls eyes*

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#53 danabo
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@ohgeez said:

@danabo said:

@ohgeez said:

@danabo: Well IGN haven't commented on it yet and probably won't until they release the full reviews of the next gen versions. I suppose we will know what they think at that time.

If you don't mind me asking, what specifically about the ign xbox footage is better? If it is something like say the textures, can you provide sources other than your opinion that it is objectively better?

Go watch it, it just looks better. Cleaner, crisper, and more detailed on the Xbox One. And not a blurry mess like the PS4 version. I'm not delusional, though, this is on comparison videos and images on my PC monitor. When you get the two versions running side-by-side I'm sure the PS4 version performs a lot better, as press reviews have indicated. Also, it's amusing to me that certain people care about the difference so much.

Well how about this. Would you agree that IGNs video player will not output either video in their optimal state? Personally, until I see uncompressed HD video comparisons, I won't be making any judgment on what version will be better. This is also why I put more stock in the written articles at this point due to the more objective nature.

Yep. As above. I have no doubts that the PS4 version will look and run better. I just find it amusing that the comparisons we have show the opposite. And the differences, to me, are not something to lose sleep over.

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#54  Edited By ohgeez
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@danabo said:

@ohgeez said:
@SinjinSmythe said:

@ohgeez said:

Every single media outlet that has compared them has reported the PS4 version to be the superior version aesthetically. The "better looking" xbone screenshots are due to a capture error. Here is digital foundry's followup to that article:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-face-off-qa

From the article:

Is this the result of you processing the footage to make it look better compared to PlayStation 4?

Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. The only regret here is that the drive for the best possible assets has resulted in captures that do not fully represent how DICE wants the game to be played.

Are you going to listen to Eurogamer because they said so? They had the footage right there and they still printed that BS. Biased and all for Sony will get you results like this.

I have been saying Show me what looks better..................Don't tell me what looks better.

From what I have seen the X1 looks better.

Except that as the article states, the pictures which YOU have posted here are NOT representative of what the actual xbox experience is so your subjective viewpoint is based on something that simply isn't true.

No, it will look better than it does in those images. Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. Also, adjusting the image won't suddenly make the extra details disappear. Adjusting contrast won't make those rocks vanish.

Read the context of this discussion. The guy was pretty much taking a dig at the fact that people thought those xbox screenshots looked better because they actually goofed the contrast and eliminated a lot of the detail in the image compared to the ps4 footage. Yeah, it looks better on the surface but is objectively less detailed. Its the same thing they do with HDTVs in a store, they put a high contrast, colorful video to get the image to pop more to hide the fact that the tv is less capable.

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#55 greensand24
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@SinjinSmythe:

Even the most hardcore cow cannot deny that the XOne shots look better. And it's not just about sharper textures and better contrast and color...

Look closely....

Notice how in the third comparison shot the banner is missing in the ps4 shot but in the XOne shot. Also in the fourth comparison shot look at the ground. Notice how the ps4 is missing a few rocks and gravel compared to the XOne shot.

So you see there are little details the XOne has that the ps4 doesn't in addition to better textures and contrast. Sorry but trying to magically turn up your contrast dial will not make missing details magically appear on the ps4.

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#56 danabo
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@ohgeez said:

@danabo said:

@ohgeez said:
@SinjinSmythe said:

@ohgeez said:

Every single media outlet that has compared them has reported the PS4 version to be the superior version aesthetically. The "better looking" xbone screenshots are due to a capture error. Here is digital foundry's followup to that article:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-face-off-qa

From the article:

Is this the result of you processing the footage to make it look better compared to PlayStation 4?

Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. The only regret here is that the drive for the best possible assets has resulted in captures that do not fully represent how DICE wants the game to be played.

Are you going to listen to Eurogamer because they said so? They had the footage right there and they still printed that BS. Biased and all for Sony will get you results like this.

I have been saying Show me what looks better..................Don't tell me what looks better.

From what I have seen the X1 looks better.

Except that as the article states, the pictures which YOU have posted here are NOT representative of what the actual xbox experience is so your subjective viewpoint is based on something that simply isn't true.

No, it will look better than it does in those images. Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. Also, adjusting the image won't suddenly make the extra details disappear. Adjusting contrast won't make those rocks vanish.

Read the context of this discussion. The guy was pretty much taking a dig at the fact that people thought those xbox screenshots looked better because they actually goofed the contrast and eliminated a lot of the detail in the image compared to the ps4 footage. Yeah, it looks better on the surface but is objectively less detailed. Its the same thing they do with HDTVs in a store, they put a high contrast, colorful video to get the image to pop more to hide the fact that the tv is less capable.

Stop repeating that nonsense. No amount of adjusting your TV settings will make extra rocks, snow or any other of the details missing from the PS4 version suddenly appear. "What is curious is the level of "pop" given to the Xbox One's textures, where - bizarrely - artwork often seems to be more detailed than on PlayStation 4."

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#57 SinjinSmythe
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@ohgeez said:
@SinjinSmythe said:

@ohgeez said:

Every single media outlet that has compared them has reported the PS4 version to be the superior version aesthetically. The "better looking" xbone screenshots are due to a capture error. Here is digital foundry's followup to that article:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-face-off-qa

From the article:

Is this the result of you processing the footage to make it look better compared to PlayStation 4?

Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. The only regret here is that the drive for the best possible assets has resulted in captures that do not fully represent how DICE wants the game to be played.

Are you going to listen to Eurogamer because they said so? They had the footage right there and they still printed that BS. Biased and all for Sony will get you results like this.

I have been saying Show me what looks better..................Don't tell me what looks better.

From what I have seen the X1 looks better.

Except that as the article states, the pictures which YOU have posted here are NOT representative of what the actual xbox experience is so your subjective viewpoint is based on something that simply isn't true.

You are correct. They used a older build of BF4 for this and it is not final. Thank you for supporting the fact that this will look even better than the Ps4 version on day one.

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@greensand24 said:

@SinjinSmythe:

Even the most hardcore cow cannot deny that the XOne shots look better. And it's not just about sharper textures and better contrast and color...

Look closely....

Notice how in the third comparison shot the banner is missing in the ps4 shot but in the XOne shot. Also in the fourth comparison shot look at the ground. Notice how the ps4 is missing a few rocks and gravel compared to the XOne shot.

So you see there are little details the XOne has that the ps4 doesn't in addition to better textures and contrast. Sorry but trying to magically turn up your contrast dial will not make missing details magically appear on the ps4.

Eyes do not lie. Only PS4 fanboys do. I am happy with how it looks and it's only going to get better. Hang on!!!

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@juarbles:

Try using your eyes jackass. Specs don't mean sh*t if the end product visually speaking doesn't match what the expected specs are suppose to be.

If the ps4 and XOne stickers swapped sides in these comparison shots then talking up specs would make more sense.

But cows are foolish. "Oh no it doesn't look good because we have the specs" WTF??!

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#60 ohgeez
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@danabo said:

@ohgeez said:

@danabo said:

@ohgeez said:
@SinjinSmythe said:

@ohgeez said:

Every single media outlet that has compared them has reported the PS4 version to be the superior version aesthetically. The "better looking" xbone screenshots are due to a capture error. Here is digital foundry's followup to that article:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-face-off-qa

From the article:

Is this the result of you processing the footage to make it look better compared to PlayStation 4?

Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. The only regret here is that the drive for the best possible assets has resulted in captures that do not fully represent how DICE wants the game to be played.

Are you going to listen to Eurogamer because they said so? They had the footage right there and they still printed that BS. Biased and all for Sony will get you results like this.

I have been saying Show me what looks better..................Don't tell me what looks better.

From what I have seen the X1 looks better.

Except that as the article states, the pictures which YOU have posted here are NOT representative of what the actual xbox experience is so your subjective viewpoint is based on something that simply isn't true.

No, it will look better than it does in those images. Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. Also, adjusting the image won't suddenly make the extra details disappear. Adjusting contrast won't make those rocks vanish.

Read the context of this discussion. The guy was pretty much taking a dig at the fact that people thought those xbox screenshots looked better because they actually goofed the contrast and eliminated a lot of the detail in the image compared to the ps4 footage. Yeah, it looks better on the surface but is objectively less detailed. Its the same thing they do with HDTVs in a store, they put a high contrast, colorful video to get the image to pop more to hide the fact that the tv is less capable.

Stop repeating that nonsense. No amount of adjusting your TV settings will make extra rocks, snow or any other of the details missing from the PS4 version suddenly appear. "What is curious is the level of "pop" given to the Xbox One's textures, where - bizarrely - artwork often seems to be more detailed than on PlayStation 4."

First of all, you are quoting a different article. I am not contending that statement on whether or not they used some kind of sharpener.

The article I posted was a followup to the one you quoted addressing these color differences. I am referring specifically to the crushed blacks in the xbone capture footage, as admitted by eurogamer. I didn't say they did it on purpose. They goofed, they admitted it. What I was saying in that quote is that what happened here is a known tv sales tactic.

http://forums.solidsignal.com/auximages/crushed.png

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I knew that the versions were going to look identical. I'd rather have the sharper textures and colors of the XB1 over than higher resolution and degraded textures and particle effects of the PS4. Regardless neither version is going to have any significant advantage over the other.

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#62  Edited By danabo
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@ohgeez said:

@danabo said:

@ohgeez said:

@danabo said:

@ohgeez said:
@SinjinSmythe said:

@ohgeez said:

Every single media outlet that has compared them has reported the PS4 version to be the superior version aesthetically. The "better looking" xbone screenshots are due to a capture error. Here is digital foundry's followup to that article:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-face-off-qa

From the article:

Is this the result of you processing the footage to make it look better compared to PlayStation 4?

Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. The only regret here is that the drive for the best possible assets has resulted in captures that do not fully represent how DICE wants the game to be played.

Are you going to listen to Eurogamer because they said so? They had the footage right there and they still printed that BS. Biased and all for Sony will get you results like this.

I have been saying Show me what looks better..................Don't tell me what looks better.

From what I have seen the X1 looks better.

Except that as the article states, the pictures which YOU have posted here are NOT representative of what the actual xbox experience is so your subjective viewpoint is based on something that simply isn't true.

No, it will look better than it does in those images. Um, you don't make a game look better by crushing subtle detail. The lowering of dynamic range like this physically can't make a game look better - it can only look worse. Also, adjusting the image won't suddenly make the extra details disappear. Adjusting contrast won't make those rocks vanish.

Read the context of this discussion. The guy was pretty much taking a dig at the fact that people thought those xbox screenshots looked better because they actually goofed the contrast and eliminated a lot of the detail in the image compared to the ps4 footage. Yeah, it looks better on the surface but is objectively less detailed. Its the same thing they do with HDTVs in a store, they put a high contrast, colorful video to get the image to pop more to hide the fact that the tv is less capable.

Stop repeating that nonsense. No amount of adjusting your TV settings will make extra rocks, snow or any other of the details missing from the PS4 version suddenly appear. "What is curious is the level of "pop" given to the Xbox One's textures, where - bizarrely - artwork often seems to be more detailed than on PlayStation 4."

First of all, you are quoting a different article. I am not contending that statement on whether or not they used some kind of sharpener.

The article I posted was a followup to the one you quoted addressing these color differences. I am referring specifically to the crushed blacks in the xbone capture footage, as admitted by eurogamer. I didn't say they did it on purpose. They goofed, they admitted it. What I was saying in that quote is that what happened here is a known tv sales tactic.

http://forums.solidsignal.com/auximages/crushed.png

I'm quoting the original article - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-next-gen-vs-pc-face-off-preview

The follow-up is here - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-face-off-qa

None of which changes their original observations.

And, as your image shows, the Xbox One version will only look better once they fix the capture issue. When this is done, as your image shows, the extra detail on the Xbox One version will not vanish. Rocks, snow, banners etc. And in none of my posts have I disputed that the PS4 version is technically superior.

EDIT: The real question is, why do you care if somebody prefers the technically inferior version?

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Those shots do look better on the X1. It doesn't much matter to me as both are pretty similar. I was honestly happy with being somewhere close to the ps4 since all we ever hear about is how superior the specs are on it.. a trade off I was happy to make considering everything else that comes with the X1 over the ps4. The fact that these shots actually look BETTER than the ps4 version is merely icing on the cake.

I watched some of those comparison videos too and why is everything on the playstation systems historically grayed out? I mean, across the board on the sony platforms it seems.

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@Mystery_Writer:

Uh... The XB1 didn't win anything with those horrible jaggies.

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@YD_11 said:

Those shots do look better on the X1. It doesn't much matter to me as both are pretty similar. I was honestly happy with being somewhere close to the ps4 since all we ever hear about is how superior the specs are on it.. a trade off I was happy to make considering everything else that comes with the X1 over the ps4. The fact that these shots actually look BETTER than the ps4 version is merely icing on the cake.

I watched some of those comparison videos too and why is everything on the playstation systems historically grayed out? I mean, across the board on the sony platforms it seems.

Yes, the side by sides a difference can be seen. If I walk into someone's living room and see them playing BF4, I wont be instantly like "oh yes, I see you are playing the PS4 version".

I have also seen the gray in the PS versions too. What gives? The different lighting? dunno.

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#66  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Mystery_Writer said:

I mean aside from BF4 (which X1 seemed to have won that round), has there been any other multiplats video comparison that I missed?

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Mystery_Writer said:

I mean aside from BF4 (which X1 seemed to have won that round), has there been any other multiplats video comparison that I missed?

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@SinjinSmythe said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Mystery_Writer said:

I mean aside from BF4 (which X1 seemed to have won that round), has there been any other multiplats video comparison that I missed?

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@danabo said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Mystery_Writer said:

I mean aside from BF4 (which X1 seemed to have won that round), has there been any other multiplats video comparison that I missed?

The Irony, it's incredible.

Stay in school kids.

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@danabo: Well my original point was that people want to believe the high contrast version is superior to the normal contrast version because the high contrast is appealing. According to the source of the high contrast images, these images are not how the game will actually look and are objectively less detailed than the normal contrast images captured from other sources.

I don't care who buys what version, simply responding to the thread and defending my statement. I am not getting either console at release. When I eventually do, i won't be buying BF4 because I did not enjoy BF3.

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Everyone who's seen both versions in person have said that the PS4 version's superior. Why are we still debating this? Just accept it and move on.

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(FACTS) CVG's review, "Both versions looked stunning, though the consensus was that the PS4 version definitely shaded it," VideoGamer, meanwhile, claims the game "looks stunning - especially on PS4".Eurogamer adds: "Based on what we've seen so far, the Microsoft console manages to hold up despite the undeniable, quantifiably worse metrics [compared to PS4] in terms of both resolution and frame-rate." Polygon points out that "The PS4 version is somewhat sharper than the Xbox One release

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#74  Edited By danabo
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@ohgeez said:

@danabo: Well my original point was that people want to believe the high contrast version is superior to the normal contrast version because the high contrast is appealing. According to the source of the high contrast images, these images are not how the game will actually look and are objectively less detailed than the normal contrast images captured from other sources.

I don't care who buys what version, simply responding to the thread and defending my statement. I am not getting either console at release. When I eventually do, i won't be buying BF4 because I did not enjoy BF3.

Changing the contrast will not remove rocks. As DF stated, their incorrect capture could only make the Xbox One version look worse.

Also...

EDIT: These threads do amuse me so. I understand what you mean, some may prefer the hight contrast. But adjusting that won't remove the 'bizarre' extra detail on the Xbox One version. Let them prefer those images, everyone that can read knows the PS4 version will outperform the Xbox One version in a side-by-side comparison.

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Xbox wins this one,i seen the videos and screen shots,why are people backing ps4 on this one?

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@5dlrbill said:

Xbox wins this one,i seen the videos and screen shots,why are people backing ps4 on this one?

A 50% greater difference in resolution might have something to do with it.

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@5dlrbill said:

Xbox wins this one,i seen the videos and screen shots,why are people backing ps4 on this one?

Those bias sites have the cows brainwashed. Even NeoGAF and N4G is banning people supporting otherwise.

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#78  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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real ps4 footage, none of that DF washed out shit.

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I realize you lems have been utterly broken and personally I'll admit I'm loving every minute of it. But it's pretty clear here which version is superior.

Have a good night fella's.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

real ps4 footage, none of that DF washed out shit.

DF's PS4 capture is 1:1

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We all know BF4 looks and performs better, especially when the developers and publisher confirm it.

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@SinjinSmythe said:

@killzowned24 said:

@5dlrbill said:

Wow Xbox1 looks better.

Don't let these lems fool you with tiny screenshots to hide the fugly low resolution and jaggies galore. In fact, xbone has more jaggies than PS3!!

Click for full size.

you obviously missed all the comparisons I put up above. Go with your cherry picked shot then.

You're a fool and downscaled the screenshots to 720p LOL!

Face it,xbone runs at 50% less pixels and still has a worse framerate and that is with less effects ..LMAO

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@Mystery_Writer said:

I mean aside from BF4 (which X1 seemed to have won that round), has there been any other multiplats video comparison that I missed?

XBox One looks a bit better, but the PS4 performs better and has less FPS drops. Still the comparisons so far for BF4 and CoD isn't final yet because both of these games will have patches for the XBox One versions.

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#83 Multipass35
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@sora16perfect: well lol you swore wrong.

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#84  Edited By MajesticShea
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Never have I seen such people on denial, this is beyond the point of sad.

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#85 Multipass35
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Look at the cows in damage control lol. Upset over the comparison video that clearly shows the Xbox One is tips in every way, they resort to there usual excuses. It's kinda sweet.

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#86 megaspiderweb09
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900p>720p

That is a fact, but both look great really

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#87 danabo
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The Xbox One version does look better!

@Wasdie

You should lock this thread too.

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#88 Thunder7151
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@danabo said:

The Xbox One version does look better!

@Wasdie

You should lock this thread too.

I don't understand why the BF4 thread got locked. Probably because people were saying the truth about how BF4 looks better on XBOX ONE, and such statements are unwanted on a Cow forum like this one.

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#89  Edited By danabo
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@Thunder7151 said:

@danabo said:

The Xbox One version does look better!

@Wasdie

You should lock this thread too.

I don't understand why the BF4 thread got locked. Probably because people were saying the truth about how BF4 looks better on XBOX ONE, and such statements are unwanted on a Cow forum like this one.

Because there's a sticky at the top for BF4.

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#90 Thunder7151
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@danabo said:

@Thunder7151 said:

@danabo said:

The Xbox One version does look better!

@Wasdie

You should lock this thread too.

I don't understand why the BF4 thread got locked. Probably because people were saying the truth about how BF4 looks better on XBOX ONE, and such statements are unwanted on a Cow forum like this one.

Because there's a sticky at the top for BF4.

I doubt that's the only reason. There have probably been many BF4 threads that haven't been locked.

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How can anyone say BF4 on X1 was identical to ps4 when it had more jaggies than pixels?

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#93 danabo
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@SinjinSmythe said:

I think some dumb cow mentioned about being blind? No matter he does one post and never backs anything up.

If the "Weaker" hardware looks better now, imagine what the final version will look like after the day one patch?????

ON TOPIC: This will repeat for the life of the next gen multiplat cycle.

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#94  Edited By SinjinSmythe
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@danabo said:

@SinjinSmythe said:

I think some dumb cow mentioned about being blind? No matter he does one post and never backs anything up.

If the "Weaker" hardware looks better now, imagine what the final version will look like after the day one patch?????

ON TOPIC: This will repeat for the life of the next gen multiplat cycle.

Don't hold your breath.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-next-gen-now-battlefield-4

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The PS4 version looks better mainly becau seiit's easier on the eyes. The Xbone is not all disadvantage. It has better textures. Now some Lems are getting stupid with this. They think that it will look even better. When the Xbo version gets AO, it will take a performance hit. To preserve a more stable framrate, something will have to be sacrificed. That is something Lems can look forward to.

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#97  Edited By clr84651
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@Mystery_Writer:

CoD Ghosts runs at 1080p on PS4 and at 720p on X1.

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#98 b4il
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the tv settings comparison kind of works for this. the average consumer loves those dynamic contrast, color enhancements, oversharp and oversaturated look, otherwise electronic markets wouldn't present every single tv like that. i personally hate those "enhancements", since they acutally make everything worse. i prefer a warm natural picture to watch my blu rays and play my games, to get as close to the picture on my tv the director of the game/movie intended.

that said, i still cannot judge which bf4 version looks better, i think they both have their ups and downs. ps4 looks a little blurred out, but has a nice color reproduction, while the x1 version looks like the tv's sharpness was set to max to hide the lower resolution. still, some textures definitely look better on the x1. i guess i have to see them both live to make a decision.

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#99  Edited By tormentos
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@superclocked said:

Link? I haven't seen this video, nor have I heard about it..

Also, the XB1 version of BF4 has sharper textures, due to the superior upscale method, but distant objects are very blocky due to the lower resolution...

Come on dude both have the same scaler from GCN.

@superclocked said:

The XB1 uses a superior upscale method that makes textures appear sharper instead of blurring them. The trade off is that objects in the distance in BF4 look like crap on the XB1 version, due to the lower resolution..

For comparisons where the PS4 version is not upscaled, like Call of Duty, there will be no way for the XB1 version to look nearly as good. The PS4 version will not be blurred through upscaling, so textures will be sharper, details will be sharper, objects, especially ones the distance, will be less blocky, and you will also be able to see much further into the distance..

No upscale method will make 720p look anywhere near as good as native 1080p...

For the 10 time that is a lie,the xbox one version has sharpening filter on it,while missing Ambient Occlusion which will soften the image,and which the PS4 version did had,funny thing is that BF4 was running up to 14 FPS slower in some intense parts than the PS4,while lacking AO which hit performance,so once apply like it was say to BF4 on xbox one not only the image will look softer but the FPS performance will drop even more.

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The jump in power needed to push those pixels must be huge, even if the end result is less so. We shall see soon enough, but I would take what Katateeechop says with a grain of salt, wouldn't be the first time he made something completely up...

It is huge which is why Cinemablend was calling out site like Anandtech and toms hardware,for making seen like the difference was nothing,this sites make a living by comparing every GPU out there,and they crown a graphics king basically by frame difference not resolution but frames.

This GPU did 14 FPS more than this other on the same quality in the same resolution and get crowned Graphics king of the GPU,in fact have you hear them talk some time about how this or that company will regain the crow.?

If by any change AMD make a GPU that was not only running BF4 at higher resolution than an Nvidia GPU but also at faster frames,it would be crowned as the King of the universe,because most difference you get on PC is just a few more frames at the same quality and resolution.

Imaging BF4 running at 4k on an AMD GPU while never going under 40 FPS,while Nvidia new GPU would run BF4 at 2K resolution and still have dips under 40 FPS while having jaggies problem..

Now to make it even worse that GPU from Nvidia is $100 more than the AMD one.

This on PC would cause such a backlash that Nvidia would simple loss its market.

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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lspjyu31Joo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RO46byQtI

Yeah sure X1 won the BF4 comparison, sure. *rolls eyes*

Sorry mate, i watched those videos and i have to say the Xbox one has the edge. Maybe it's down to personal preferences like colour gamut vs jaggies etc.