Hate to say it but Consoles are Dying.

Being level 10 sure is fun isn't it TC?

A disliking of the PC exclusives stems from ignorance.

Zlychop

Nope.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Steam isn't added into the PC sales, I think.

Also, why would devs not support the PC next gen?

lostrib

Because they loose far more from piracy than what they could gain from a console only title

Then you have to include all the money developers lose from used game sales

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Steam isn't added into the PC sales, I think.

Also, why would devs not support the PC next gen?

Zlychop

Because they loose far more from piracy than what they could gain from a console only title

Thats only for Exclusive games, multiplats still have to sell well on the PC

[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

What as the last Multitplat game to sell better on PC then on Console that was not a Valve Game? Oh yea, None.

Zlychop

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Because they loose far more from piracy than what they could gain from a console only title

Maneil99

Then you have to include all the money developers lose from used game sales

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Then you have to include all the money developers lose from used game sales

lostrib

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Maneil99"] Not true at all, for every used game in the market someone would have had to buy it new. Plus Think of all the money they make from online passes, rental royalty fees,

Maneil99

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

Bebi_vegeta

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Maneil99"] no its not, they still made a sale, say there are 30,000 used copies of a game that are bought once, well that means that atleast 30,000 people bought the game new, not to mention if anyone of those people buys the online pass.

Maneil99

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

Can you translate that to english please?

[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

lostrib

Can you translate that to english please?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Maneil99"] no its not, they still made a sale, say there are 30,000 used copies of a game that are bought once, well that means that atleast 30,000 people bought the game new, not to mention if anyone of those people buys the online pass.

Maneil99

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

So your friends switching to PC means consoles are dying? makes sense

finalstar2007

no its not, they still made a sale, say there are 30,000 used copies of a game that are bought once, well that means that atleast 30,000 people bought the game new, not to mention if anyone of those people buys the online pass.

Maneil99

Which also means 30000 more would have bought new if the used sale wasn't available, hence the "potential sale" loss.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Maneil99"] Not true at all, for every used game in the market someone would have had to buy it new. Plus Think of all the money they make from online passes, rental royalty fees,

Maneil99

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

You are like a pubescent teenage girl, always changing moods.

[QUOTE="Maneil99"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

They are still losing a sale, just like the argument against piracy.

Bebi_vegeta

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

YES now here is a question for you

How many of those people Would NEVER play it IF they could not get it at reduce price? ALL those people would create a chance of buying dlc or the next game from that series to come out because they enjoyed it or even ended up liking the dev to buy other games they have.

I know for my self there is a quit a few games I would have never played if i couldn't get it at reduce cost... but ended up buying next one in the series new. for example i have done this with

AC1 i ended up buying 2

dead space ended up buying dead space 2 when it hit 30 new

mass effect 1. i ended up buying me2 when it was 20 something.

i bought black ops used because it looked good but i was very disappointed with waw with tryench. BUT because i had fun with blk ops im buying blkops 2 on release

there is quite few more i have done with with. those are some off top of my head.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Maneil99"] no its not, they still made a sale, say there are 30,000 used copies of a game that are bought once, well that means that atleast 30,000 people bought the game new, not to mention if anyone of those people buys the online pass.

k2theswiss

Could of sold 60000 copies instead of 30000... hence losing money.

YES now here is a question for you

How many of those people Would NEVER play it IF they could not get it at reduce price? ALL those people would create a chance of buying dlc or the next game from that series to come out because they enjoyed it or even ended up liking the dev to buy other games they have.

I know for my self there is a quit a few games I would have never played if i couldn't get it at reduce cost... but ended up buying next one in the series new. for example i have done this with

AC1 i ended up buying 2

dead space ended up buying dead space 2 when it hit 30 new

mass effect 1. i ended up buying me2 when it was 20 something.

i bought black ops used because it looked good but i was very disappointed with waw with tryench. BUT because i had fun with blk ops im buying blkops 2 on release

there is quite few more i have done with with. those are some off top of my head.

That's great for you... same thing could be said about piracy.

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

A disliking of the PC exclusives stems from ignorance.

Jankarcop

I for one bow down to the glorious PC empire.PoliteDoctor

>My friends are switiching over
>Consoles are dying
>I know the majority of console gamers

Dumbest thread ever. Just don't bother using anecdotal evidence... It's a waste of time.

>My friends are switiching over
>Consoles are dying
>I know the majority of console gamers

Dumbest thread ever. Just don't bother using anecdotal evidence... It's a waste of time.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

>My friends are switiching over
>Consoles are dying
>I know the majority of console gamers

Dumbest thread ever. Just don't bother using anecdotal evidence... It's a waste of time.

Jebus213

We have a few PC trolls.

Jankar

Zlychop

SamiRDuran

MK-Professor

Far less than the amount of console trolls.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

The level requirement should be raised to 20.

Tikeio

45

Nah... this place would be really boring.

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

45

mitu123

Nah... this place would be really boring.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Nah... this place would be really boring.

parkurtommo

I play Microsoft Word on my PC. It's great.SolidSnake35

None of those games hold a candle compared to Twisted Metal and Starhawk.Grawse

I play Microsoft Word on my PC. It's great.SolidSnake35

Microsoft Excel is more challenging

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I play Microsoft Word on my PC. It's great.lostrib

Microsoft Excel is more challenging

Great Recession.

Consoles dying? They sure are. The used games market is killing the devs that actually make the games.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I play Microsoft Word on my PC. It's great.SolidSnake35

Microsoft Excel is more challenging

Great Recession.

TopTierHustler

We've had the recession for nigh on 4-5 years. How did it not affect PC gaming as well?

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Great Recession.

lundy86_4

We've had the recession for nigh on 4-5 years. How did it not affect PC gaming as well?

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

Great Recession.

lundy86_4

We've had the recession for nigh on 4-5 years. How did it not affect PC gaming as well?

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] you combined all console games that are coming out in the next two years and still didnt manage to beat what pc gets in the next 6 months. very nice!

Zlychop

Well, i only have to mention Halo 4, Fable Journey, FF13vs and Ni no Kuni really

PC has no RPGs at all like those and obviously its shooters are a joke comparing to Halo in gameplay

LOL, its shooters are a joke compared to Halos gameplay?

From what I've played of PC shooters they destroy Halo, like seriously dude. Halo is just another FPS on the PC and doesn't stand out the way it does on consoles.

Games like Planetside 2 will be pushing the bar for the genre which is something Halo 4 isn't doing.

Also, I think your disliking for the list comes from ignorance as to what most of those games are as they aren't advertised directly to your face.

Probably did.

TopTierHustler

Well, officially the dumbest reasoning for a decrease in consoles hardware/softwrae/preipheral sales and an increase in PC retail sales for NA.

loosingEnds mentioning Ni No Kuni which is a PS3 exclusive who would have thought. As far as consoles dying that's not the case at all consoles will always be around.