Haters are quickly losing their reasons to hate the PS3 (56k warning)

There have been two primary reasons for which people have bashed the PS3 for since E3 2006: price and software.

These are legitimate criticisms, but they've been taken to such extremes as to declare the PS3 "doomed", "finished," or "out of the race."

I suspect that Sony's main reason for keeping the price of the PS3 high for so long is that they were reluctant to have the console encroach upon the profits of the PS2. In fact, the only reason Sony released the PS3 this early was because competition from Microsoft forced them to. If it were solely up to Sony, the PS3 would not have launched in November 2005, because the company had not finished milking the PS2 dry yet.

Conversely, Microsoft was eager to be done with Xbox, as the platform was intended the whole time to be a stepping stone to dominance, not a profit generator in and of itself.

Fast forward to October 2007, and Sony is starting to make the transition from PS2 to PS3 by dropping the price quickly and coming out with a new SKU. Thus, one of Sony's two weaknesses is being alleviated, while the other will be relieved when Sony's lineup comes to maturity in early 2008, with a solid lineup of exclusive titles including Warhawk, Motorstorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, the Eye of Judgment, Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Haze, Little Big Planet, Killzone 2, and of course, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

Later in the year, this lineup will be supplemented with the likes of Gran Turismo 5 and Tekken 6, and in the further off horizon God of War III, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

The reasons for hating the PS3 are diminishing. The PS3 is now priced competitively vis-a-vis the Xbox 360 (though still not at a mass market price), and in a matter of months the "PS3 has no games" and "just wait" arguments will be rendered useless.

2008 will be the year that Playstation 3 comes into its own. Game on.

Cows = desperate (LOL). 360 outsells PS3 by FIVE-TO-ONE in September - but somehow teh blu-rayz will make PS3 number one in October. Right...

What cows seem to forget is that Sony already had $500 PS3 SKU and guess what - they discontinued it because nobody bought it. And I mean NOBODY bought it. Now they're releasing a $400 even-more-crippled SKU - why will anybody buy it? I certainly won't.

The latest bashing trend is no BC. PS3 sales will pick up now, and hopefully fewer games will get delayed due to the increasing fanbase. TrueReligion_

weren't cows bashing that feature or lack there of, on the 360 when it launched.. :| This is no different..

Something is wrong when a gaming system ships with a free movie instead of a game. Kind of shows you what Sony is marketing the PS3 for.Ramadear

I'm not sure where you've been, but Sony has been selling the 80GB PS3 with a copy of Motorstorm for sometime now.

Try again.

I'm amused that somehow, some Sony fans think that as soon as they finally get an AAA you can't play on the 360, their console will suddenly become better.

Wake up call: Once you've got one AAA or two, you need to get a few more to catch up to the 360 in terms of game library.

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]The latest bashing trend is no BC. PS3 sales will pick up now, and hopefully fewer games will get delayed due to the increasing fanbase. OhSnapitz

weren't cows bashing that feature or lack there of, on the 360 when it launched.. :| This is no different..

Indeed, they were. But fanboys will always be fanboys.

Selling the PS3 at $399 sans some features is a good thing, though.

My problem is the PS3 is losing exclusives. And shares to many mulitplats. with the other consoles. shadowfox55

its way to similar and its more expensive then its competitor

I'm amused that somehow, some Sony fans think that as soon as they finally get an AAA you can't play on the 360, their console will suddenly become better.

Wake up call: Once you've got one AAA or two, you need to get a few more to catch up to the 360 in terms of game library.

Newnab

You do realize that good games don't have to be AAA, right?

Only ignorant people actually hate a particular console. All consoles have somthing to offer in their own distinct way.Gamersince81

Wow let me see if I can totally debunk your point....... So I offer you a load of crap for $600, would you hate it? ie: Just because someones offering something, that doesn't mean whats being offered is good. Thx k,bye!

[QUOTE="Newnab"]

I'm amused that somehow, some Sony fans think that as soon as they finally get an AAA you can't play on the 360, their console will suddenly become better.

Wake up call: Once you've got one AAA or two, you need to get a few more to catch up to the 360 in terms of game library.

TrueReligion_

You do realize that good games don't have to be AAA, right?

Of course, but if the PS3 lineup is to stand up or best the 360 lineup here on GS it's going to need some.

They hate the PS3, just not better then any other console.

Im not waiting 6 months to play a decent or good game to get an experience equal too or greater on my 360.

With Backwards Compatibility at a loss, no thank you, I will enjoy playing manhunton my 360, good day to you all.

Nice post. And agreed.

I don't think this Christmas is gonna be that big for Sony but since it's getting GT5 and a few other major games next year, I think 2008 will be great for the PS3.

Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...jethrovegas

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...Sully28

People were enjoying 360 way before GoW, not that you would have experience with the console

Only ignorant people actually hate a particular console. All consoles have somthing to offer in their own distinct way.Gamersince81

Really? What do Sega CD, 32X, Atari 5200, 7800, Jaguar, Virtual Boy, Wonderswan, Lynx and Game Gear have to offer that all other consoles do not? And I do hope that you don't go with ridiculously obvious answers.

I'm more of a critic after my PS3 purchase than I ever was before I owned one. Before owning one it was just the superficial griping that everyone says, after my purchase the reasons to dog the PS3 grew by ten times.

Had I never bought it I would never have believed all the lame things that you learn after actually having it.

For example, non owners complain about bad sixaxis ergonomics and no rumble while my gripes include how the sixaxis has no feature to turn the thing off after it sets idle for a few minutes so you find a dead controller when you want to play it and the two and a half foot long charge cable is impossible to use to play with and charge it at the same time, or how the badly designed slippery concave triggers rest on the ground when you set it down on the floor so when you are trying to chill and watch a movie any time you move the controller either on purpose or by accident it triggers the chapter search and messes up your movie watching, then to fix that problem you have to buy a $30 dollar Sony Ps3 brand remote control because my expensive universal remote that can control everything in the house is not compatable because (get this) there are currently ZERO universal remotes out that work with blue tooth.

Nitpicky? Yeah, sure it is but thats just one small observation about how the controller is flawed. It seems to me that the #1 objective of PS3 owners here is to cover up the massive list of failures that they experence everyday and make it seem like they don't exist when the controller thing I brought up is pretty small potatos compared to a few other things I have run up against during my ownership experence.

People go on and on about the crappy quality of the 360 which while true does not make the PS3 a better choice I won't even go into detail about what happens to the PS3 if your power or icp is interrupted during a firmware update you can find that one out for yourselves.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...Sully28

you seem to be forgetting the 360's past too. :?

[QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...Synthetic_NinJI

People were enjoying 360 way before GoW, not that you would have experience with the console

and no one can enjoy the ps3 :roll:

Just like Lair and Heavenly Sword where supposed to be great.**** happens.

Oh i'd just like to add that, for us canadian gamers, Future Shop appears to have dropped the price on the 80 gig PS3 bundled with motorstorm to 499.99! The same as the american price!

Sony has been a bunch of arrogant, annoying, ****ers.. but that doesn't make me hate the PS3. Though i'm very glad i didn't get it last year, now that the 80 gig ps3, with a game, is cheaper then the 20 gig, lack of wireless, ps3. Wow, its weird to think that not even a year ago the ps3 was.. what, 700 bucks in canada.

I'm more of a critic after my PS3 purchase than I ever was before I owned one. Before owning one it was just the superficial griping that everyone says, after my purchase the reasons to dog the PS3 grew by ten times.

Had I never bought it I would never have believed all the lame things that you learn after actually having it.

For example, non owners complain about bad sixaxis ergonomics and no rumble while my gripes include how the sixaxis has no feature to turn the thing off after it sets idle for a few minutes so you find a dead controller when you want to play it and the two and a half foot long charge cable is impossible to use to play with and charge it at the same time, or how the badly designed slippery concave triggers rest on the ground when you set it down on the floor so when you are trying to chill and watch a movie any time you move the controller either on purpose or by accident it triggers the chapter search and messes up your movie watching, then to fix that problem you have to buy a $30 dollar Sony Ps3 brand remote control because my expensive universal remote that can control everything in the house is not compatable because (get this) there are currently ZERO universal remotes out that work with blue tooth.

Nitpicky? Yeah, sure it is but thats just one small observation about how the controller is flawed. It seems to me that the #1 objective of PS3 owners here is to cover up the massive list of failures that they experence everyday and make it seem like they don't exist when the controller thing I brought up is pretty small potatos compared to a few other things I have run up against during my ownership experence.

People go on and on about the crappy quality of the 360 which while true does not make the PS3 a better choice I won't even go into detail about what happens to the PS3 if your power or icp is interrupted during a firmware update you can find that one out for yourselves.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...Synthetic_NinJI

People were enjoying 360 way before GoW, not that you would have experience with the console

Let the fanboys believe what they want to believe.. the 360 has had a steady flow of good/great software since it's launch.

Cows = desperate (LOL). 360 outsells PS3 by FIVE-TO-ONE in September - but somehow teh blu-rayz will make PS3 number one in October. Right...

What cows seem to forget is that Sony already had $500 PS3 SKU and guess what - they discontinued it because nobody bought it. And I mean NOBODY bought it. Now they're releasing a $400 even-more-crippled SKU - why will anybody buy it? I certainly won't.

bragac200

Exept for that sales spike and the fact that I bought the $500 SKU? the fact that it was the #1 selling tech item on amazon.com for about a week?!?

I don't hate the PS3. I am just disapointed with their attempts this year and how long it took them to do some smart ideas.

They sold their cell power chip to someone else, finally lowering the price again to something people can actually afford. I have to say if Sony had the price they had now lowered it to their system would have sold a whole lot better, and developing games would be a little easier for the developers. Keeping their rumble function instead of remaking it. I mean does Sony want to piss off their consumers and fanbase.

[QUOTE="bragac200"]

Cows = desperate (LOL). 360 outsells PS3 by FIVE-TO-ONE in September - but somehow teh blu-rayz will make PS3 number one in October. Right...

What cows seem to forget is that Sony already had $500 PS3 SKU and guess what - they discontinued it because nobody bought it. And I mean NOBODY bought it. Now they're releasing a $400 even-more-crippled SKU - why will anybody buy it? I certainly won't.

Lab392

Exept for that sales spike and the fact that I bought the $500 SKU? the fact that it was the #1 selling tech item on amazon.com for about a week?!?

It had a slight sales spike during the price drop but it still sold the least of the 3..

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]

[QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...OhSnapitz

People were enjoying 360 way before GoW, not that you would have experience with the console

Let the fanboys believe what they want to believe.. the 360 has had a steady flow of good/great software since it's launch.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...Sully28

Funny, I guess you live in an alternate reality where the 360 didn't have an AAAE and twice the number of AA's as the PS3 at launch... :roll:

I completely agree with you there. 2008 seems to be Sony's first trulyblockbuster year. With titles such as MGS 4, FFXIII, Versus XIII, Gran Turismo 5 and plenty more, This is quickly shaping up to tbe the PS3's time to shine.

But Fuzzy, you shouldn't concern yourself with the haters and nay sayers. The need to massively hate or deride something else to bolster one's on support in what it is they defend most is a classic sign of a lack of conviction and insecurity. Let the haters hate. In time, they will all end up eating their words.

This is something of a variation on the "just wait" argument. But it's pretty valid.

With the price dropping, that becomes less and less of a factor. And with the lineup that is coming in 2008, something there is bound to be good. There are some great franchises on the way, and LittleBigPlanet is getting really positive impressions.

I don't know if the PS3 will pass the 360 in quality in 2008, but it will certainly be a console worth owning at that point.

This is something of a variation on the "just wait" argument. But it's pretty valid.

With the price dropping, that becomes less and less of a factor. And with the lineup that is coming in 2008, something there is bound to be good. There are some great franchises on the way, and LittleBigPlanet is getting really positive impressions.

I don't know if the PS3 will pass the 360 in quality in 2008, but it will certainly be a console worth owning at that point.

sonicmj1

We won't be waiting long, R&C comes on the 23rd! :P

Only took them a year or so to get off their asses...jethrovegas

Cows = desperate (LOL). 360 outsells PS3 by FIVE-TO-ONE in September - but somehow teh blu-rayz will make PS3 number one in October. Right...

What cows seem to forget is that Sony already had $500 PS3 SKU and guess what - they discontinued it because nobody bought it. And I mean NOBODY bought it. Now they're releasing a $400 even-more-crippled SKU - why will anybody buy it? I certainly won't.

bragac200

lol, Good luck finding someone who gives a rat's ass whether you buy one or not.

i agree with xboxdevil , the 360 in its first year dont have alot of great titles, PDZ got a 9 but everyone know thats score is way to gentle , that game is almost garbage but since the 360 is the only next gen console at that time and with a whole year without competition, is not a big deal

thats what the ps3 its experience right now however is very different right now got 2 big competitors which have quality titles and a cheaper price >>>> BIG DEAL

thats why everyone bash the ps3 not only that , ps1 and ps2 pwnd the competition , evryone hate it for that too

I'm amused that somehow, some Sony fans think that as soon as they finally get an AAA you can't play on the 360, their console will suddenly become better.

Wake up call: Once you've got one AAA or two, you need to get a few more to catch up to the 360 in terms of game library.

Newnab

No-one cares about AAAs that came out 2 years ago.