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[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"]
Its games and hardware are selling better then ever before, its exclusives have been meet with critical acclaim, it has gained 2 of the PS3s major franchises in the space of a few months...I could go on.
Point is the Xbox isnt losing anything, the PS3 is simply becoming a more effective competitor. :)
MarloStanfield
I'm not really talking about exclusives i's losing, we both know that's happened a lot and it is completely understandable. I'm talking about exclusives period.
The PS3 is doing more than becoming an effective competitor, it is coming out with exclusives that deliver on the promise of this gen and push the boundries of what is possible with current gen consoles.
That doesn't necessarily mean the games will be good (see killzone) and it doesn't necesarily mean it's a smart financial move (see killzone) but it is resulting in higher rated exclusives than the 360 is getting and fantastic games all round
Checking metacritic and gamerankings, the playing feild is pretty much even in terms of high scoring games and the like, but the 360 simply has more of them on the market. The gears of war franchise, Halo 3 and so on are rated as high or higher then say MGS4 and Resistance 2. (though I still stand by my statement of LBP>>>the world :P). and in the software sales department...well we all know that the 360s guns win there. Anyway I disagree and standby my previous statment, the PS3 isnt out performing the 360, none of its games are heads and shoulders above anything that the 360 can offer, in fact its still got quite a small pool of universally acclaimed titles compared to the 360...The PS3 is just becoming a much more effective competitor.I've played the big hitter exclusive for both systems this past month n half. This means playing through Resistance 2, Gears 2, Fable 2, and LBP. One title ive played this month, but was multiplat is dead space. However, i can clearly say without a doubt that the PS3 has done a better job than the 360 in this flood of games. In addition, the PS3 has released one of the hottest titles this year MGS4, which i've played.
Here is my comparison, R2's storyline imo was not as good because it could almost be a standalone, the color difference in the second one also gives the game a different feel which makes it worse for fans of the first. Online for R2 however is awesome, 60vs 60, and co op maps where u take down up to 50 enemies at once laglessly is the best.
Gears 2 on the other hand offered a decent story line, even though it seemed like the first had a more epic ending. Looking aside that, the online seems fun, ableit like the first, but with more game modes. Hence Gears 2 is almost equivalent or a little worse than gears 1 imo. When comparing Gears 2 to R2, I'd have to say both are almost the same in terms of quality, therefore its a stalemate there.
Onto Fable2. Fable 2 starts off in an epic pace, with what seems to be an awesome game in the making. You soon find out however that it lacks a good story line. The problem is not just the short length of the story, which could easily be forgiven by sidequests, but the fact that they don't connect u with ur character as good as they could've done. The ending is rushed, i'm not going to even say that it seems rushed, because it is. For the people who've played fable 2, can u clearly say that u were not dissappointed with the ending a little? I know that when i finished it, i thought it wasn't done because it seemed too abrupt. On top of that, it seems that the sidequests aren't that fun. An RPG without a good story doesn't make a good RPG.
Little Big Planet is by far the most fun i've had in a while. This game presents itself as just an all gameplay game. While people may complain that it doesn't have a good storyline, i say to them that this game doesnt need to have a good storyline. There's a storyline no doubt, but just the sheer amount of environments and replayability it has makes this game worth it. I'll give a perfect example that u could compare this game to and that would be the 2d marios. Mario did not, i repeat did not need to have a good storyline, but it had awesome gameplay elements that made it fun. The same is said about LBP. However, it adds something extra by allowing u to build levels and share them online thereby extending the games lifespan. So imo LBP>Fable 2. If there are any other big exclusive games that u could add plz tell so i can play.
[QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Well, its pretty much agreed that Resistance 2 is better Gears 2, Valkyria Chronicles is better than Fable II, and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift is better than Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts. Metal Gear Solid 4 and LittleBigPlanet still stand head and shoulders above anything the 360 has now.ImOldGregThats not entirely true...infact according to Game ranking and metacritic... Gears of war 2>/=Metal gear solid 4>Resistance 2 Fable 2> Valkyria chronicles Motor storm> banjo...I wouldnt really count that as a victory though :P LBP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>life itself :D The Situation isnt nearly as lop sided as you think it is....Yes, because of course we have to take such publications as Variety Magazine and The Sydney Morning Herald as seriously as IGN. They are held as the fair and balanced reviewers, and according to them, Metal Gear Solid 4 is still a perfect game, Resistance 2 beats Gears 2 2 to 1, Valkyria Chronicles beat out Fable II 9 to 8.8, and LittleBigplanet is still the smilling face of all that is good within gaming, and people who don't buy it are maggots who seek to destroy all future potential that gaming has (it was implied).
I find it hilarious that people are hyping MAG. We haven't even seen in-game video yet!RodneythepomWe just saw how the Ps3's hardware can run 60 player online without a hitch, or the tiniest amount of lag, and we know the team behind the game is about as solid as they come - what part do you think actually leads a reasonable assumption to anything other than great?
[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Well, its pretty much agreed that Resistance 2 is better Gears 2, Valkyria Chronicles is better than Fable II, and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift is better than Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts. Metal Gear Solid 4 and LittleBigPlanet still stand head and shoulders above anything the 360 has now.ThewbaccaThats not entirely true...infact according to Game ranking and metacritic... Gears of war 2>/=Metal gear solid 4>Resistance 2 Fable 2> Valkyria chronicles Motor storm> banjo...I wouldnt really count that as a victory though :P LBP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>life itself :D The Situation isnt nearly as lop sided as you think it is....Yes, because of course we have to take such publications as Variety Magazine and The Sydney Morning Herald as seriously as IGN. They are held as the fair and balanced reviewers, and according to them, Metal Gear Solid 4 is still a perfect game, Resistance 2 beats Gears 2 2 to 1, Valkyria Chronicles beat out Fable II 9 to 8.8, and LittleBigplanet is still the smilling face of all that is good within gaming, and people who don't buy it are maggots who seek to destroy all future potential that gaming has (it was implied).On the flip side of the coin, you could say that including those publications makes the gamut of reviewers more closely resemble the gamut of gamers as a whole, and those averages would more accurately reflect the appeal of a game among the varying types and levels of gamers.
[QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="ImOldGreg"] Thats not entirely true...infact according to Game ranking and metacritic... Gears of war 2>/=Metal gear solid 4>Resistance 2 Fable 2> Valkyria chronicles Motor storm> banjo...I wouldnt really count that as a victory though :P LBP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>life itself :D The Situation isnt nearly as lop sided as you think it is....Steppy_76Yes, because of course we have to take such publications as Variety Magazine and The Sydney Morning Herald as seriously as IGN. They are held as the fair and balanced reviewers, and according to them, Metal Gear Solid 4 is still a perfect game, Resistance 2 beats Gears 2 2 to 1, Valkyria Chronicles beat out Fable II 9 to 8.8, and LittleBigplanet is still the smilling face of all that is good within gaming, and people who don't buy it are maggots who seek to destroy all future potential that gaming has (it was implied).On the flip side of the coin, you could say that including those publications makes the gamut of reviewers more closely resemble the gamut of gamers as a whole, and those averages would more accurately reflect the appeal of a game among the varying types and levels of gamers. the hell? For that to make any sense, they would need to give Gears 2 a 1, as judged by a Wii gamer
[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Yes, because of course we have to take such publications as Variety Magazine and The Sydney Morning Herald as seriously as IGN. They are held as the fair and balanced reviewers, and according to them, Metal Gear Solid 4 is still a perfect game, Resistance 2 beats Gears 2 2 to 1, Valkyria Chronicles beat out Fable II 9 to 8.8, and LittleBigplanet is still the smilling face of all that is good within gaming, and people who don't buy it are maggots who seek to destroy all future potential that gaming has (it was implied).ThewbaccaOn the flip side of the coin, you could say that including those publications makes the gamut of reviewers more closely resemble the gamut of gamers as a whole, and those averages would more accurately reflect the appeal of a game among the varying types and levels of gamers. the hell? For that to make any sense, they would need to give Gears 2 a 1, as judged by a Wii gamerThe review averages take into account reviews from the HARDCORE(the IGn's, gamepsots)to the semi casual(the wired's, maxim's etc), to the extreme casual(the vanity fair's, newsweeks,). Gamers also range from the Hardocore through the extreme casual. A higher review average would generally mean the game performed well for a wider variety of gamers. It wasn't exactly a difficult point to comprehend, and it makes sense. Your rebuttal doesn't make sense, as it A, stereotypes all Wii gamers and B, uses a single source which isn't an average. Oh I get it, you're made because not everybody agrees that MGS4 is a perfect game. People have always called MGS a niche game, and lo and behold the average review score would seem to show that it doesn't resonate with everyone from the hardcore to the casual the same way that other games that scored a little lower on the main sites but scored higher on the casual reviews.
this thread is about exclusives. not multiplats.Theres such a small difference I never notice.
I see that Fallout 3 and GTA4 look better on my 360 than ps3. Dead space looks better on the ps3.
Likw I said, the deciding factor for me is online. I get mutli plats for 360 so I can play online since I have like 30 firends that have a 360. None of em have a ps3.
Squall18
[QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="Steppy_76"]On the flip side of the coin, you could say that including those publications makes the gamut of reviewers more closely resemble the gamut of gamers as a whole, and those averages would more accurately reflect the appeal of a game among the varying types and levels of gamers. Steppy_76the hell? For that to make any sense, they would need to give Gears 2 a 1, as judged by a Wii gamerThe review averages take into account reviews from the HARDCORE(the IGn's, gamepsots)to the semi casual(the wired's, maxim's etc), to the extreme casual(the vanity fair's, newsweeks,). Gamers also range from the Hardocore through the extreme casual. A higher review average would generally mean the game performed well for a wider variety of gamers. It wasn't exactly a difficult point to comprehend, and it makes sense. Your rebuttal doesn't make sense, as it A, stereotypes all Wii gamers and B, uses a single source which isn't an average. Oh I get it, you're made because not everybody agrees that MGS4 is a perfect game. People have always called MGS a niche game, and lo and behold the average review score would seem to show that it doesn't resonate with everyone from the hardcore to the casual the same way that other games that scored a little lower on the main sites but scored higher on the casual reviews. Thats complete crap - we both know that the casual gamer (the kind who actively pursues Wii Fit - thats what you know I meant) would not react at all well to Gears of War II, saying it is far too bloody and macho) (Or at least, the stereotypical casual gamer would - the actual casual gamers are the games target market after all). For that to be true, there must be several prominent 5's on the site.
At the start of this generation Sony decided to invest heavily in first party development. I doubt this is because they foresaw the failure of their 600 dollar monstrosity but it is providing a huge benefit for them in the long term regardles.
It didn't really work out too well for them in the beginning, up until 2008 the only good exclusive on the console was Warhawk. But now we're starting to see the fruits of their labour. The PS3 had higher rated exclusives than the 360 this year by a fair margin.
When I look at PS3 exclusives I see far more ambition than I see with 360 exclusives. Whether it's 256 players in MAG, jaw dropping graphics/animation/destructability in Killzone 2, user generated content in Little Big Planet or the unique cinematic touches in Heavy Rain.
Upcoming exclusives for the PS3 include GT5, God of War 3, Infamous, MAG and Heavy Rain. Contrast that with the underwhelming exclusives coming to the 360 like Ninja Blade and the 5 hour long halo xpansion pack.
Could 2009 be a repeat of 2008 exclusives wise? right now it looks like it
MarloStanfield
No one know how long Halo Recon will be, but the developers. Also, you missed a lot of 360 exclusives like Race Pro, Forza 3, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Halo Wars, Star Ocean: The Last Hope and many other titles. XBox 360 exclusives are still outselling the PS3 ones. Gears of War 2 along has outsold Resistance 2 and Motorstorm 2 combined. LOL!! Even games like Tales of Vesperia had outsold Valkyrie Chronicles. Resistance 2 and LBP are great games, but they aren't selling like it. LBP just broken 500K after 5 weeks in the U.S. It should top 1 million by the end of the year. Resistance hasn't even reached 500K yet in the U.S. Very sad.
I find it hilarious that people are hyping MAG. We haven't even seen in-game video yet!Rodneythepom
It's being made by Zipper...the creators of the Socom franchise. Nuff said there. 256 players online is nothing to laugh about either...it's going to be hectic.
[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]No they havent.Gh0st_Of_0nyxPS3 2008 >> Xbox 360 2008 Well I think 360 2008 >>>>>> ps3 2008 just because It wasn't full of crap exclusives like MGS4. well youre not thinking right :D
[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]the hell? For that to make any sense, they would need to give Gears 2 a 1, as judged by a Wii gamerThewbaccaThe review averages take into account reviews from the HARDCORE(the IGn's, gamepsots)to the semi casual(the wired's, maxim's etc), to the extreme casual(the vanity fair's, newsweeks,). Gamers also range from the Hardocore through the extreme casual. A higher review average would generally mean the game performed well for a wider variety of gamers. It wasn't exactly a difficult point to comprehend, and it makes sense. Your rebuttal doesn't make sense, as it A, stereotypes all Wii gamers and B, uses a single source which isn't an average. Oh I get it, you're made because not everybody agrees that MGS4 is a perfect game. People have always called MGS a niche game, and lo and behold the average review score would seem to show that it doesn't resonate with everyone from the hardcore to the casual the same way that other games that scored a little lower on the main sites but scored higher on the casual reviews. Thats complete crap - we both know that the casual gamer (the kind who actively pursues Wii Fit - thats what you know I meant) would not react at all well to Gears of War II, saying it is far too bloody and macho) (Or at least, the stereotypical casual gamer would - the actual casual gamers are the games target market after all). For that to be true, there must be several prominent 5's on the site.I said "more accurately represent", not "perfectly represent in every single scenario". Would SOME of those gamers react that way? Sure(though SOME hardcore gamers may react that same way).
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