Heavenly Sword graphics : are they CG or real-time? (56k warning)

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

First pic... She looks Asian.

Second pic... She looks Spanish.

Third pic... She looks Native American.

2nd looks like in game (game play). Due to how bad it looks from the rest.

shungokustasu

[QUOTE="-Spock-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

So that is basically what they are aiming for? Awesome, if they pull it off this game will be even more incredible. Microsoft lost a really good opportunity with this game...

BioShockOwnz

I think the low sales of Kung Fu Chaos on the Xbox are to blame too. Who wouldn't be skeptical after their last game was, put very bluntly, a flop? I think overall this whole fiasco was due to both the luke-warm reception of KFC, and not just because of Microsoft. It's more of a sour lead up to a great project.

So..in other words, you didn't read my post. Because I asked the question as a rhetorical device to set up my answer. I backed up my claims with sources, straight from the developers. How do you back up your claims?fuzzysquash

I have eyes you know? Besides you believe everything a Sony dev tells you?

The first two use realtime assets, but only the second one looks like full realtime. The thrid one is just straight CG. Only the sceond one seems likely, and why the low rez rocks and grass?

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

First pic... She looks Asian.

Second pic... She looks Spanish.

Third pic... She looks Native American.

2nd looks like in game (game play). Due to how bad it looks from the rest.

fuzzysquash

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] So..in other words, you didn't read my post. Because I asked the question as a rhetorical device to set up my answer. I backed up my claims with sources, straight from the developers. How do you back up your claims?Truth_Hurts_U

I have eyes you know? Besides you believe everything a Sony dev tells you?

The first two use realtime assets, but only the second one looks like full realtime. The thrid one is just straight CG. Only the sceond one seems likely, and why the low rez rocks and grass?

michaelareb0001

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="-Spock-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

So that is basically what they are aiming for? Awesome, if they pull it off this game will be even more incredible. Microsoft lost a really good opportunity with this game...

ZeLeam

I think the low sales of Kung Fu Chaos on the Xbox are to blame too. Who wouldn't be skeptical after their last game was, put very bluntly, a flop? I think overall this whole fiasco was due to both the luke-warm reception of KFC, and not just because of Microsoft. It's more of a sour lead up to a great project.

I see.

Interesting...and a tremendously dumb move from MS. I'd love to see the looks on their faces when Heavenly Sword turns into a killer app franchise :)

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"] Killzone2 is atleast at $20 Million probably more around $22 since last I heard. And now with it still not having gameplay footage to release really I would say it's probably $25 Million. Marketing will be big on this worldwide too.

I'm shocked Gears was so cheap to make, $10 Million that's it?
-Spock-

Mark Rein, the Epic VP said it was. Like you say, it is probably due to the vast knowledge of their very own Unreal 3.0 engine.

Although on a technicality it is over a billion dollars. They apparently went to Microsoft and persuaded them to double the RAM from 256MB to 512MB. Epic said it would make games look and run just that little bit better so Microsoft reluctantly agreed. Plus you have to factor in the astronomical marketing hype.

And it's a good thing they did. 256MB of shared DDR would have ran out real fast. So then GeoW is prolly the biggest reason why the 360 is doing so well, even outside of 2 million copies it sold.

So your credible source is your.....eyes? :|.................................................................:lol: Sorry man, too funny.fuzzysquash

So you are saying I'm blind?

Please don't post in system wars, if you don't want people picking on your topics.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] So your credible source is your.....eyes? :|.................................................................:lol: Sorry man, too funny.Truth_Hurts_U

So you are saying I'm blind?

Please don't post in system wars, if you don't want people picking on your topics.

If you really look the second and 3rd pic the character model is almost the same it's like he said really only a difference in the lighting technique that gives the 3rd pic a more realistic look.Anoch20

Lighting does indeed do wonders then.

He's saying your eyes can not be the determining factor if it's in-game or CGI.shungokustasu

Hmm so I cannot see... Smoothness, detail, color, and other determining factors based on what is known to be real time this generation?

Cool... I'm blind and cannot judge for myself.

MS actually passed on this game. I guess the joke's on them.DaysAirlines

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] So your credible source is your.....eyes? :|.................................................................:lol: Sorry man, too funny.Truth_Hurts_U

So you are saying I'm blind?

Please don't post in system wars, if you don't want people picking on your topics.

The pic up top is old. The pic in the middle will be representative of in-game, gameplay graphics. The pic on the bottom is in-game cutscene ala Metal Gear Solid, but touched up a bit to make a nice wallpaper.KeyWii

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]He's saying your eyes can not be the determining factor if it's in-game or CGI.Truth_Hurts_U

Hmm so I cannot see... Smoothness, detail, color, and other determining factors based on what is known to be real time this generation?

Cool... I'm blind and cannot judge for myself.

[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"] Killzone2 is atleast at $20 Million probably more around $22 since last I heard. And now with it still not having gameplay footage to release really I would say it's probably $25 Million. Marketing will be big on this worldwide too.

I'm shocked Gears was so cheap to make, $10 Million that's it?
michaelareb0001

Mark Rein, the Epic VP said it was. Like you say, it is probably due to the vast knowledge of their very own Unreal 3.0 engine.

Although on a technicality it is over a billion dollars. They apparently went to Microsoft and persuaded them to double the RAM from 256MB to 512MB. Epic said it would make games look and run just that little bit better so Microsoft reluctantly agreed. Plus you have to factor in the astronomical marketing hype.

And it's a good thing they did. 256MB of shared DDR would have ran out real fast. So then GeoW is prolly the biggest reason why the 360 is doing so well, even outside of 2 million copies it sold.

If eyes could be grounds for proof over evidence, then the world is flat, because it looks quite flat to me.fuzzysquash

Just because I see something one way and you see it another... Doesn't mean everyone sees the same way as you.

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] So your credible source is your.....eyes? :|.................................................................:lol: Sorry man, too funny.fuzzysquash

So you are saying I'm blind?

Please don't post in system wars, if you don't want people picking on your topics.

Swish! Checkmate! Ownage In A Box!

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]He's saying your eyes can not be the determining factor if it's in-game or CGI.shungokustasu

Hmm so I cannot see... Smoothness, detail, color, and other determining factors based on what is known to be real time this generation?

Cool... I'm blind and cannot judge for myself.

I'm slightly confused. :)

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] If eyes could be grounds for proof over evidence, then the world is flat, because it looks quite flat to me.Truth_Hurts_U

Just because I see something one way and you see it another... Doesn't mean everyone sees the same way as you.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]He's saying your eyes can not be the determining factor if it's in-game or CGI.ToScA-

Hmm so I cannot see... Smoothness, detail, color, and other determining factors based on what is known to be real time this generation?

Cool... I'm blind and cannot judge for myself.

I'm slightly confused. :S

[QUOTE="michaelareb0001"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"] Killzone2 is atleast at $20 Million probably more around $22 since last I heard. And now with it still not having gameplay footage to release really I would say it's probably $25 Million. Marketing will be big on this worldwide too.

I'm shocked Gears was so cheap to make, $10 Million that's it?
-Spock-

Mark Rein, the Epic VP said it was. Like you say, it is probably due to the vast knowledge of their very own Unreal 3.0 engine.

Although on a technicality it is over a billion dollars. They apparently went to Microsoft and persuaded them to double the RAM from 256MB to 512MB. Epic said it would make games look and run just that little bit better so Microsoft reluctantly agreed. Plus you have to factor in the astronomical marketing hype.

And it's a good thing they did. 256MB of shared DDR would have ran out real fast. So then GeoW is prolly the biggest reason why the 360 is doing so well, even outside of 2 million copies it sold.

Your both wrong, it's 4 million.DaysAirlines

Link? :o

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] If eyes could be grounds for proof over evidence, then the world is flat, because it looks quite flat to me.fuzzysquash

Just because I see something one way and you see it another... Doesn't mean everyone sees the same way as you.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] If eyes could be grounds for proof over evidence, then the world is flat, because it looks quite flat to me.shungokustasu

Just because I see something one way and you see it another... Doesn't mean everyone sees the same way as you.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"] Your both wrong, it's 4 million.-Spock-

Link? :o

Microsoft have so far sold in excess of 10 million Xbox 360s in 37 countries, and have over 160 games available for the console, seriously outgunning the next-gen offerings to date for Sony’s PS3 and Nintendo’s Wii. Microsoft’s latest game, Gears of War, continues its incredible sales figures, recently selling more than 4 million copies and edging close to knocking Halo and Halo 2 off the top of the Xbox sales charts.

There are subjective and objective truths. Objective truths require the positing of hypotheses and the finding of evidence to prove those hypotheses. Subjective truths require the formulation and propogation of normative arguments. Not to sound mean, but you seem to be confusing the two.fuzzysquash

So what your telling me is. You don't know what this gen of games look like and cannot base an opinion on this? That is my hypotheses. What games look like this gen.

You have no proof other then a Sony dev... Saying it's in game... No video proof and you find it conclusive that the game is going to look like that.

At least I'm not so gullible.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] If eyes could be grounds for proof over evidence, then the world is flat, because it looks quite flat to me.fuzzysquash

Just because I see something one way and you see it another... Doesn't mean everyone sees the same way as you.

[QUOTE="VonGak"]Thanks Fuzzy :D though you dreagged me back to SW :(fuzzysquash

[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"] Your both wrong, it's 4 million.DaysAirlines

Link? :o

Microsoft have so far sold in excess of 10 million Xbox 360s in 37 countries, and have over 160 games available for the console, seriously outgunning the next-gen offerings to date for Sony’s PS3 and Nintendo’s Wii. Microsoft’s latest game, Gears of War, continues its incredible sales figures, recently selling more than 4 million copies and edging close to knocking Halo and Halo 2 off the top of the Xbox sales charts.

Wow, that's quite the achievement. I can see why the Epic and Microsoft love-in is set to continue.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]There are subjective and objective truths. Objective truths require the positing of hypotheses and the finding of evidence to prove those hypotheses. Subjective truths require the formulation and propogation of normative arguments. Not to sound mean, but you seem to be confusing the two.Truth_Hurts_U

So what your telling me is. You don't know what this gen of games look like and cannot base an opinion on this? That is my hypotheses. What games look like this gen.

You have no proof other then a Sony dev... Saying it's in game... No video proof and you find it conclusive that the game is going to look like that.

At least I'm not so gullible.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="VonGak"]Thanks Fuzzy :D though you dreagged me back to SW :(VonGak

Fake, this game was made by those dudes that made that crappy Xbox game nobody played.  This game will be really easy.Gamertag-TFTW

Fake, this game was made by those dudes that made that crappy Xbox game nobody played. This game will be really easy.Gamertag-TFTW

You obviously did not read my thread. I did NOT say that it would look like that in-game. In fact, I made the opposite argument. I said it in-game would not match real-time, but if Ninja Theory pulled out all the tricks, hopefully we would not be able to tell too much of a difference. Please don't start a debate with me next time before you've actually read my statements.fuzzysquash

Then why did you tell me...

Wrong. Both the second and third pics are from cutscenes. The third is from yesterday's build, and the second is from a build a long time ago.
fuzzysquash

How am I wrong? Your saying the game wont look like the 2nd pic. It will look better. Yet you go back tracking.

[QUOTE="VonGak"]Thanks Fuzzy :D though you dreagged me back to SW :(ToScA-

OMG! VonGak is alive :o

[QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]Fake, this game was made by those dudes that made that crappy Xbox game nobody played. This game will be really easy.shungokustasu

What is the point of the graphics if you cannot control the character a lot of the time?

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]Fake, this game was made by those dudes that made that crappy Xbox game nobody played. This game will be really easy.Gamertag-TFTW

What is the point of the graphics if you cannot control the character a lot of the time?

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] So..in other words, you didn't read my post. Because I asked the question as a rhetorical device to set up my answer. I backed up my claims with sources, straight from the developers. How do you back up your claims?fuzzysquash

I have eyes you know? Besides you believe everything a Sony dev tells you?

[QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Gamertag-TFTW"]Fake, this game was made by those dudes that made that crappy Xbox game nobody played. This game will be really easy.shungokustasu

What is the point of the graphics if you cannot control the character a lot of the time?

Ofcourse, if the character only moves on a set path there are tons of tricks to optimize the FPS.  You're not in control, there is no movement therefore there is no drop in FPS.  We've watched enough movies like Metal Gear Solid.

[QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="-Spock-"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

So that is basically what they are aiming for? Awesome, if they pull it off this game will be even more incredible. Microsoft lost a really good opportunity with this game...

ToScA-

I think the low sales of Kung Fu Chaos on the Xbox are to blame too. Who wouldn't be skeptical after their last game was, put very bluntly, a flop? I think overall this whole fiasco was due to both the luke-warm reception of KFC, and not just because of Microsoft. It's more of a sour lead up to a great project.

I see.

Interesting...and a tremendously dumb move from MS. I'd love to see the looks on their faces when Heavenly Sword turns inte a killer app franchise :)

What type of game is heavenly sword? I haven't followed the game as I had no intention of getting a ps3 until the price dropped. If I can find it for the right price I'll pick one up though.Brooklyn2700