Heavy Rain is just really pretentious.

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#1 Fried_Shrimp
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It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

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#2 MetroidPrimePwn
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That's cool.

Indigo Prophecy was like that and it was awesome, so pretentious or not, this will still be awesome.

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#3 Nero_Paladin
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Because it's trying to do something entirely different?

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#4 Fried_Shrimp
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That's cool.

Indigo Prophecy was like that and it was awesome, so pretentious or not, this will still be awesome.

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Fareignheight wasn't really pretentious. Heavy Rain is trying to be a simulation, but it's not a simulation. It's just pretentious.
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#5 clubsammich91
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Lets save the criticism for people who have actually played the game please.
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#6 punkrocker163
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Wow its just a basic tutorial on how to play.
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It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

Fried_Shrimp

Does that mean something like the Sims isn't a game? You have to do everyday tasks much more often in a GAME like the Sims.

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#8 Fried_Shrimp
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Because it's trying to do something entirely different?

Nero_Paladin
No. Different is good. Pretentious is pretentious.
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#9 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

jimkabrhel

Does that mean something like the Sims isn't a game? You have to do everyday tasks much more often in a GAME like the Sims.

The Sims was a simulation. Heavy Rain is not a simulation. It's pretention.
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It's teaching you valuable life lessons and personal hygiene.

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#11 Fried_Shrimp
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It's teaching you valuable life lessons and personal hygiene.

Sky-
You sure you don't work in advertisement?
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#13 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

That's cool.

Indigo Prophecy was like that and it was awesome, so pretentious or not, this will still be awesome.

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Fareignheight wasn't really pretentious. Heavy Rain is trying to be a simulation, but it's not a simulation. It's just pretentious.

This makes no sense. It is a simulation.

No it's not, it's an adventure game. Except it takes itself way too seriously.
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Wow its just a basic tutorial on how to play.punkrocker163
I know, right? Talk about overreacting.
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[QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] Fareignheight wasn't really pretentious. Heavy Rain is trying to be a simulation, but it's not a simulation. It's just pretentious.Fried_Shrimp
This makes no sense. It is a simulation.

No it's not, it's an adventure game. Except it takes itself way too seriously.

I don't see how it takes itself more serious than other games. So if you solved the crime without shaving, it would be less pretentious?

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It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

Fried_Shrimp

So in your opinion, a developer trying to push videogames and the idea of gaming in a new direction is pretentious? Personally, I'd rather play a "pretentious" game that tries something new, than an "abnoxious" game like an FPS.

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#17 alextherussian
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Seems to be a story focused experience that works to use the medium to tell its tale as effectively as possible. I don't know what you think is pretentious about it, as controlling a characters actions through daily routine does not really scream pretentious to me. How is it taking itself more seriously then any other game, what does that even mean?
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#18 Bread_or_Decide
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Careful with the P word. More often than not its improperly used to criticize anything. By the very definition of pretentious that means anything created by anyone is pretentious because if you didn't feel it wasn't important why would you bother working on something or making it? Also calling something pretentious is a smoke screen for the critic to disguise that they can't really understand the point ofwhat they are watching or playing or reading. Also Heavy Rain is not pretentious because it's not disguising it's intentions from its audience. Its very clear that its an interactive movie its not pretending to be anything it's not. I'd prefer if you just kept saying its not a game but don't call it pretentious.
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#19 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] Fareignheight wasn't really pretentious. Heavy Rain is trying to be a simulation, but it's not a simulation. It's just pretentious.Fried_Shrimp
This makes no sense. It is a simulation.

No it's not, it's an adventure game. Except it takes itself way too seriously.

Way to seriously? How do you know this? On the surface it could appear th MGS takes itself too seriously but when you play it you can see that it's clearly having fun with its medium. Shaving and dancing in Heavy Rain aren't mean to be "oh my god so deep." I have a feeling they are just meant to be different and perhaps just fun in a weird way.
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#20 MrFanboy
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It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

Fried_Shrimp
Sheep are Pretentious, all they say is "If it weren't for Nintendo, gaming wouldn't exist or sony wouldn't enter gaming or gaming would suck or blablabla" when they close their eyes at platformers prior to donkey kong and earlier games on atari for example.
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

MrFanboy

Sheep are Pretentious, all they say is "If it weren't for Nintendo, gaming wouldn't exist or sony wouldn't enter gaming or gaming would suck or blablabla" when they close their eyes at platformers prior to donkey kong and earlier games on atari for example.

I've seen very few sheep say such things, and anyway, sheep are fanboys, which doesn't apply to all Nintendo fans. I find far more often it's Sony or Microsoft fans that have opinions of that flavor and that makes them elitist, not pretentious.

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#22 AdmiralRJW
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Is it just me or is everything that tries to be a little different from the norm declared as pretentious these days?
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#23 MrFanboy
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[QUOTE="MrFanboy"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

jimkabrhel

Sheep are Pretentious, all they say is "If it weren't for Nintendo, gaming wouldn't exist or sony wouldn't enter gaming or gaming would suck or blablabla" when they close their eyes at platformers prior to donkey kong and earlier games on atari for example.

I've seen very few sheep say such things, and anyway, sheep are fanboys, which doesn't apply to all Nintendo fans. I find far more often it's Sony or Microsoft fans that have opinions of that flavor and that makes them elitist, not pretentious.

I have never seen a hermit,cow or lemmings make such claims like "saving the gaming industry" as if they were the only ones who could have done it, when in fact the gaming industry was previously saved by another game during a crash and guess what, it wasn't from nintendo. BTW, topic creator is a sheep from what i have seen in his post history, go take a look :)
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#24 alextherussian
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[QUOTE="MrFanboy"] I have never seen a hermit,cow or lemmings make such claims like "saving the gaming industry" as if they were the only ones who could have done it, when in fact the gaming industry was previously saved by another game during a crash and guess what, it wasn't from nintendo. BTW, topic creator is a sheep from what i have seen in his post history, go take a look :)

Halo saving gaming and variations (smaller and bigger of it) are quite common. The Sony side has quite a few extremes as well, especially around the big releases. Fanboys will sprout gibberish irregardless of which platform they support...
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#25 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

ZIMdoom

So in your opinion, a developer trying to push videogames and the idea of gaming in a new direction is pretentious? Personally, I'd rather play a "pretentious" game that tries something new, than an "abnoxious" game like an FPS.

Agreed. That's one of the many problems in the so-called "core" gaming community, some just won't accept anything that is strange to them or different in the least.

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#26 MrFanboy
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[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="MrFanboy"] I have never seen a hermit,cow or lemmings make such claims like "saving the gaming industry" as if they were the only ones who could have done it, when in fact the gaming industry was previously saved by another game during a crash and guess what, it wasn't from nintendo. BTW, topic creator is a sheep from what i have seen in his post history, go take a look :)

Halo saving gaming and variations (smaller and bigger of it) are quite common.

I have never seen a lemming say Halo saved gaming. Link prease?
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#27 tirralirra
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This thread fails bacause TC doesn't understand the meaning of pretentious...lol
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#28 kingsfan_0333
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Different =/= Good.

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#29 Lionheart08
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I know this is asking a lot, but how is it exactly being pretentious? Can you broaden on that? All you've said is it's pretending to be something it's not.

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#30 Lethargika
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You sound almost as if you had just learned a new vocabulary word in school, and now you are using it every chance you get. Pretentious? I would call Heavy Rain anything but Pretentious.

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#31 kingsfan_0333
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I wouldn't call it pretentious.

I'd call it tedious.

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#32 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

I wouldn't call it pretentious.

I'd call it tedious.

You've played it?
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Sounds like the tutorial.
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] No it's not, it's an adventure game. Except it takes itself way too seriously.

So what you want from this game is for it to have a serious storyline about a seriel killer, but to occasionally have a roflecopter reference thrown in for good measure? Grow up and leave the criticism for those who are reviewing/will play the game. Your opinion based on what you have only seen means nothing here.
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#35 kingsfan_0333
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[QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

I wouldn't call it pretentious.

I'd call it tedious.

Bread_or_Decide

You've played it?

I don't think I need to. The entire concept of the game is based on what I consider to be tedious. It's what makes this game so "different". That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing.

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[QUOTE="punkrocker163"]Wow its just a basic tutorial on how to play.NAPK1NS
I know, right? Talk about overreacting.

there's a gameplay video of the girl applying make up. it's not a tutorial.
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#37 VendettaRed07
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Its not pretentious its just french... Thats just how they are lol

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#38 nitsud_19
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I know rite! The first 9 mins of any game is usually a good indicator of the story, depth and ending :roll:

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#39 ithilgore2006
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I think you don't know what pretentious means.

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#40 Meowmixxvi
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why so much hate around this game?
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#41 mitu123
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why so much hate around this game? Meowmixxvi
Some people don't even call it a game, some says it's a movie.:lol:

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#42 Renegade_Fury
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My honest opinion is that it looks very boring. The story is probably good, but if I want to watch a movie, I'll watch a movie.

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#43 Meowmixxvi
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[QUOTE="Meowmixxvi"]why so much hate around this game? mitu123

Some people don't even call it a game, some says it's a movie.:lol:

... was it like this too when indigo prophecy was about to release?
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#44 z4twenny
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cool, im glad the first 9 minutes of a game define the entire game. i guess dev's can start pumping out more games now since they only need to make them about 10 minutes in length.

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#45 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Meowmixxvi"]why so much hate around this game? Meowmixxvi

Some people don't even call it a game, some says it's a movie.:lol:

... was it like this too when indigo prophecy was about to release?

I don't think that game was hyped much, but I enjoyed it, a lot. I don't think many SW posters even remember that game, it was mostly quick time events and exploration with multiple paths.

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#46 CR00K
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Wow its just a basic tutorial on how to play.punkrocker163
Exactly. And why don't people understand this? Because they look past the fact and flame immediately because it's a Playstation title. This is system wars, so it's expected.

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#47 Salt_The_Fries
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This is really funny, this scene has been taken out of the context, and I've seen two types of people: a) ones who are hyping it based on just that b) peoples who are just bashing it based on just that both of them are wrong in their own ways IMO.
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#49 kingsfan_0333
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cool, im glad the first 9 minutes of a game define the entire game. i guess dev's can start pumping out more games now since they only need to make them about 10 minutes in length.

z4twenny

That is as original as it was when it was posted a few minutes ago.

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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

MrFanboy
Sheep are Pretentious, all they say is "If it weren't for Nintendo, gaming wouldn't exist or sony wouldn't enter gaming or gaming would suck or blablabla" when they close their eyes at platformers prior to donkey kong and earlier games on atari for example.

Mind naming a platformer made before Donkey Kong?