Heavy Rain is just really pretentious.

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#51 kingsfan_0333
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[QUOTE="punkrocker163"]Wow its just a basic tutorial on how to play.CR00K

Exactly. And why don't people understand this? Because they look past the fact and flame immediately because it's a Playstation title. This is system wars, so it's expected.

Normally I'd agree. But there are several other videos that show the same kind of gameplay. So I really don't think it's just the opening tutorial.

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#52 _SWAG_
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nothing will stop heavy rain from getting aaae here. this game is for mature audience n for adults. guess what, reviewers r adults n will score this game nothing less than 9.0. heavy rain will be aaae n a goty candidate no questions asked

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#53 kingsfan_0333
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nothing will stop heavy rain from getting aaae here. this game is for mature audience n for adults. guess what, reviewers r adults n will score this game nothing less than 9.0. heavy rain will be aaae n a goty candidate no questions asked

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Yes..because every game for adults gets aaae......

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#54 MethodManFTW
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wow... did the TC just learn the word pretentious or something? You said it like 20 times in your first 4 posts... anyhow, its a point and click style game, just like a Indigo Prophecy... Which is great, because this genre sees very very few releases... but really, judging a game on its tutorial = ultimate fail..
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#55 Panosola
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Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

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Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

Panosola

I'm saving this for teh future.

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#57 MrFanboy
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[QUOTE="MrFanboy"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

BattleTurtles
Sheep are Pretentious, all they say is "If it weren't for Nintendo, gaming wouldn't exist or sony wouldn't enter gaming or gaming would suck or blablabla" when they close their eyes at platformers prior to donkey kong and earlier games on atari for example.

Mind naming a platformer made before Donkey Kong?

Space Panic
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#58 MethodManFTW
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Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

Panosola
Yeah, I dont think your opinion on PS3 games counts for much... From your recently ranked games... Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 7.0 Mass Effect 2 10 Gears of War 2 10 Gears of War 10 Resistance: Fall of Man 6.0 Killzone 2 7.0 Bayonetta 10 Bayonetta 7.0
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#59 MrFanboy
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

MethodManFTW
Yeah, I dont think your opinion on PS3 games counts for much... From your recently ranked games... Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 7.0 Mass Effect 2 10 Gears of War 2 10 Gears of War 10 Resistance: Fall of Man 6.0 Killzone 2 7.0 Bayonetta 10 Bayonetta 7.0

haha busted :P
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#60 Panosola
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

MethodManFTW
Yeah, I dont think your opinion on PS3 games counts for much... From your recently ranked games... Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 7.0 Mass Effect 2 10 Gears of War 2 10 Gears of War 10 Resistance: Fall of Man 6.0 Killzone 2 7.0 Bayonetta 10 Bayonetta 7.0

Take a look on the Gametrailers.....many agree with me for the Heavy Rain.i have add some very good photos for Heavy Rain on "Exclusive Mall Gameplay"
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#61 MangaJ
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Whether it's pretentious or artistic brilliance, it sounds pretty damn boring.

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#62 Shad0ki11
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You know what game is really pretentious? Dante's Inferno.

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#63 lhughey
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It's teaching you valuable life lessons and personal hygiene.

Sky-
Exactly! Now the PS3 instills discipline, life lessons and hygiene. It just does everything!
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#64 tirralirra
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You know what game is really pretentious? Dante's Inferno.

Shad0ki11
Pretentious does not mean pretending to be something else. I still lol'd though.
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#65 Kan0nF0dder
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TC learnt a new word and so couldn't help but troll with it. Grow up?

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#66 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

You know what game is really pretentious? Dante's Inferno.

tirralirra

Pretentious does not mean pretending to be something else. I still lol'd though.

No. When I describe Dante's Inferno as pretentious, I'm comparing it with the story inThe Divine Comedy, not God of War.


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#67 II_Seraphim_II
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The only thing pretentious is the TC.

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#68 tirralirra
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The only thing pretentious is the TC.

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wahay! someone who used the word correctly in here. have a medal. :p
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#69 MrFanboy
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Its quite funny how this backfired.
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#70 MangaJ
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No, I know what the TC means. I too consider things to be pretentious when they're flaunting chic art and implying deeper meaning and hidden messages concerning the nature of reality or society or whatever, but really it's just boring and crappy, and you want to yell at the creator that wearing a beret and turtlenecks doesn't make you a good artist, it just makes you look like a lopsided weiner.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="MrFanboy"] Sheep are Pretentious, all they say is "If it weren't for Nintendo, gaming wouldn't exist or sony wouldn't enter gaming or gaming would suck or blablabla" when they close their eyes at platformers prior to donkey kong and earlier games on atari for example. MrFanboy

I've seen very few sheep say such things, and anyway, sheep are fanboys, which doesn't apply to all Nintendo fans. I find far more often it's Sony or Microsoft fans that have opinions of that flavor and that makes them elitist, not pretentious.

I have never seen a hermit,cow or lemmings make such claims like "saving the gaming industry" as if they were the only ones who could have done it, when in fact the gaming industry was previously saved by another game during a crash and guess what, it wasn't from nintendo. BTW, topic creator is a sheep from what i have seen in his post history, go take a look :)

History lesson time!
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#72 sora16perfect
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heres some new gameplay http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-mall-heavy-rain/61346#comments_top
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#73 XanderZane
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It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

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I actually want to play it because of the story. How the story unfolds and the character development makes me want to play this game. If it was just a CGI movie, I'd probably get it.
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#74 VideoGameGuy
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heres some new gameplay http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-mall-heavy-rain/61346#comments_topsora16perfect
that clip confused the hell out of me..
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[QUOTE="sora16perfect"]heres some new gameplay http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-mall-heavy-rain/61346#comments_top [/QUOTE]

Unless people still want to insist that this is part of the introductory tutorial, this clip has added to my belief that this game is going to be a boring interactive movie.

In addition, I no longer see the graphics as being anything special.

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#76 kingsfan_0333
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

XanderZane

I actually want to play it because of the story. How the story unfolds and the character development makes me want to play this game. If it was just a CGI movie, I'd probably get it.

Except that movies don't cost $60.

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#77 felipebo
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People who complain about things like "oh noes, so boring you has to shave and go to the bathroom in this game!!!11" sound desperate to find anything wrong with the game, and come off as knit-picky bores. And what about the tutorial is pretentious? "He's shaving, OMG he think he's God!"

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#78 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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That's cool.

Indigo Prophecy was like that and it was awesome, so pretentious or not, this will still be awesome.

MetroidPrimePwn

Pretty much this. Indigo Prophecy is a love-it-or-hate-it game,and I expect Heavy Rain to follow suit.

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People who complain about things like "oh noes, so boring you has to shave and go to the bathroom in this game!!!11" sound desperate to find anything wrong with the game, and come off as knit-picky bores. And what about the tutorial is pretentious? "He's shaving, OMG he think he's God!"

felipebo

Why can't people think they won't like this game? Discussions boards would be a little dull if everyone just agreed with eachother.

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#80 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

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#81 mirriorman
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I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

toast_burner

i just am not a big fan of story driven games

for me the story here is a bad guy shoot him is enough

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#82 kingsfan_0333
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I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

toast_burner

That is the stupidest thing I ever heard.

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[QUOTE="felipebo"]

People who complain about things like "oh noes, so boring you has to shave and go to the bathroom in this game!!!11" sound desperate to find anything wrong with the game, and come off as knit-picky bores. And what about the tutorial is pretentious? "He's shaving, OMG he think he's God!"

kingsfan_0333

Why can't people think they won't like this game? Discussions boards would be a little dull if everyone just agreed with eachother.

They can dislike it, but for good reasons. Hating a game because of the first minutes is not enough to warrant so much hate.

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#84 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

kingsfan_0333

That is the stupidest thing I ever heard.

Well its true. almost every person who hates this game say that all you do through out the whole game is press buttons to make orange juice and put on make up. which is not true

Obviously there are some people who know about the game anddon't likeit because it doesn't fit their tastebut the majority are completely ignorant

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#85 gago-gago
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Anyone watch the Mall gameplay for this? I think the voice acting needed some work especially that little boy. And I think it's just me but I didn't like how the camera twitches when he was digging in his pockets, it took me out the experience for a second.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-mall-heavy-rain/61347

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#86 MangaJ
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Anyone watch the Mall gameplay for this? I think the voice acting needed some work especially that little boy. And I think it's just me but I didn't like how the camera twitches when he was digging in his pockets, it took me out the experience for a second.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-mall-heavy-rain/61347

gago-gago

Yeah, the voice acting was pretty bad. They must have used non-union talent or something. The best VA was the clown, haha.

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#87 InsaneBasura
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**** yeah it's pretentious. David Cage is trying to change the industry. I'm glad he aims high, but I'll settle for a a great adventure game.

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#88 kingsfan_0333
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[QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

People who complain about things like "oh noes, so boring you has to shave and go to the bathroom in this game!!!11" sound desperate to find anything wrong with the game, and come off as knit-picky bores. And what about the tutorial is pretentious? "He's shaving, OMG he think he's God!"

felipebo

Why can't people think they won't like this game? Discussions boards would be a little dull if everyone just agreed with eachother.

They can dislike it, but for good reasons. Hating a game because of the first minutes is not enough to warrant so much hate.

It's obvious from other videos that the gameplay is pretty consistent throughout.

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#89 clone01
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why so much hate around this game? Meowmixxvi
i have no idea. its one thing to not like the style or genre, but people on these boards have just seemed to form an irrational hatred of this title, imo.
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#90 Eggimannd
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Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

Panosola

It is fairly obvious you do not own a PS3 based on your ratings given for PS3 games.

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#91 VendettaRed07
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I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

toast_burner

Yeah i know I dont understand. Everyone is like OMG IN THE FIRST NINE MINUTES OF THE GAME YOU DONT EVEN KILL ANYONE OR BLOW ANYTHING UP MOST BORING GAME EVER!!!... get real everyone. Its a heavily story driven game, it was like a tutorial and was trying to establish a relationship with you and the main character.

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#92 kingsfan_0333
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

VendettaRed07

Yeah i know I dont understand. Everyone is like OMG IN THE FIRST NINE MINUTES OF THE GAME YOU DONT EVEN KILL ANYONE OR BLOW ANYTHING UP MOST BORING GAME EVER!!!... get real everyone. Its a heavily story driven game, it was like a tutorial and was trying to establish a relationship with you and the main character.

You missed thepoint. It's not that things aren't blowing up, and it's not that the game is story driven. It's the lack of control you have over your player at any given time.Watch the gameplay from the mall and you'll see what I mean. Just because a game is driven by the story doesn't mean that the player needs to be limited to a few button presses in a long scene like that. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, i'm just saying that most people believe that they will find it boring.

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#93 swamplord666
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seems to be a step in a new direction so i'll definitely be playing it :)

also TC what was that word again? lets hear it... one more time.

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#94 gago-gago
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^^ I agree. Games like Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake and other games are all story driven and tells the story very well plus the story changes depending on your choice too. I just don't understand why the reply to Heavy Rain having a boring gameplay is because it's a heavily story driven. And I don't think thinking Heavy Rain having a boring gameplay is hate, it's more of a criticism especially when other games are more story driven and have fun gameplay.

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#95 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="kingsfan_0333"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

Yeah i know I dont understand. Everyone is like OMG IN THE FIRST NINE MINUTES OF THE GAME YOU DONT EVEN KILL ANYONE OR BLOW ANYTHING UP MOST BORING GAME EVER!!!... get real everyone. Its a heavily story driven game, it was like a tutorial and was trying to establish a relationship with you and the main character.

You missed thepoint. It's not that things aren't blowing up, and it's not that the game is story driven. It's the lack of control you have over your player at any given time.Watch the gameplay from the mall and you'll see what I mean. Just because a game is driven by the story doesn't mean that the player needs to be limited to a few button presses in a long scene like that. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, i'm just saying that most people believe that they will find it boring.

the story changes depending on your choices.
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#96 swamplord666
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also! If Ryan Davis was deeply interested in it, that means it's something more than we know! he wouldn't like this type of game from what i've seen

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#97 BigBoss154
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[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="Panosola"]

Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

Panosola

Yeah, I dont think your opinion on PS3 games counts for much... From your recently ranked games... Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 7.0 Mass Effect 2 10 Gears of War 2 10 Gears of War 10 Resistance: Fall of Man 6.0 Killzone 2 7.0 Bayonetta 10 Bayonetta 7.0

Take a look on the Gametrailers.....many agree with me for the Heavy Rain.i have add some very good photos for Heavy Rain on "Exclusive Mall Gameplay"

Ah yes, Gametrailers...

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#98 Panosola
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[QUOTE="Panosola"]

Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

Eggimannd

It is fairly obvious you do not own a PS3 based on your ratings given for PS3 games.

You you want to talk about this on PSN Home..??
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#99 Eggimannd
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[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="Panosola"]

Boring.....boring for a movie and horrible for a game,i am not excited at all.Everything in this game are just boring....boring story,boring QTE, boring and mediocre graphics even and the voices are annoying.This QTE "moviegame" it is not worth the money imo.This is maybe....maybe just a rent, like the movies but not a buy.Heavy Rain it will Flop for sure.I will save my money for better games like Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 on the XBOX360.

Panosola

It is fairly obvious you do not own a PS3 based on your ratings given for PS3 games.

You you want to talk about this on PSN Home..??

I'd rather you just post a picture of your PS3 with a sign proving it's you.

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You missed thepoint. It's not that things aren't blowing up, and it's not that the game is story driven. It's the lack of control you have over your player at any given time.Watch the gameplay from the mall and you'll see what I mean. Just because a game is driven by the story doesn't mean that the player needs to be limited to a few button presses in a long scene like that. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, i'm just saying that most people believe that they will find it boring.

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That's true but there is a catch though. Yes you only indirectly control the character on screen but you still commands what actions on screen that's about to happen. The use of the word QTE has been bad for this game because it's not your normal QTE. Unlike games like Shenmue, God of War, Resident Evil 4 or any other game that has QTE in them Heavy Rain don't use them in the same way. Heavy Rain's QTE is the only control you have but they aren't linear, in fact Heavy Rain is far less linear than most games.

Yes it has a beginning and an ending but it's your button-presses that control what's going to happen in between. If your characters dies then the game continues without that character. You don't just press buttons to make the game continue, you press the buttons to create the story or rather the story creates in front of you as you press the buttons.

I think the word interactive movie is the wrong word to describe this game. In one way it's right as you don't directly control anything but on the other hand it's wrong as the game is not at all linear.