Heavy Rain is just really pretentious.

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#101 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

I'm yet to see someone who hates the game and actually knows what the game is.

It seems that most people just hate the game for the sake of hating something

mirriorman

i just am not a big fan of story driven games

for me the story here is a bad guy shoot him is enough

I'm like this too. But that's in 'normal' games where rather than story, all i wanna do is shoot. Heavy Rain is much different, it is pretty much just story. I really want this game to be released so i can see what other gameplay methods there are. And to people who say this will be boring, there is shooting and car chases in this too, if you manage to go down that pathway...
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#102 sammyjenkis898
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Oh boy, the pretentious tags have been thrown out. Whenever something tries to do something somewhat original, it will get the pretentious tag slapped on it. I mean, come on - the game isn't even out yet.
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#103 Merex760
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It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

Fried_Shrimp
Ah, another person who has never played Indigo Prophecy, yet knows enough to judge Heavy Rain. Shame...
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#104 themyth01
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Lets save the criticism for people who have actually played the game please. clubsammich91
The thing about this game is that watching the videos and playing the game are nearly the same thing. So if you see it, you're almost as able to judge it as the one who's played it.
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#105 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Lets save the criticism for people who have actually played the game please. themyth01
The thing about this game is that watching the videos and playing the game are nearly the same thing. So if you see it, you're almost as able to judge it as the one who's played it.

Most of the videos that you've watched, with the exception of the video showcasing the first nine minutes, are completely out of context - which is why you think it's "nearly the same thing". You don't know anything about the set-up, the characters, etc. It's like watching the end of The Usual Suspects, and saying that it's not as surprising as it's made out to be.

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#106 mtmatt
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Lets save the criticism for people who have actually played the game please. sammyjenkis898

The thing about this game is that watching the videos and playing the game are nearly the same thing. So if you see it, you're almost as able to judge it as the one who's played it.

Most of the videos that you've watched, with the exception of the video showcasing the first nine minutes, are completely out of context - which is why you think it's "nearly the same thing". You don't know anything about the set-up, the characters, etc. It's like watching the end of The Usual Suspects, and saying that it's not as surprising as it's made out to be.

Sammy i think your memory may be failing you. Myth was taliking about gameplay not story and i completely agree with him/her.
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#107 jasonharris48
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It looks like a suped up version of I.P. I do not see anythig wrong with tat at all. As long as the story is good I'm happy. BTW isn't that the tutorial that the director mentioned that would take place in the beginning of the game? Do you expect the tutorial to be exciting?

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#108 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Lets save the criticism for people who have actually played the game please. themyth01
The thing about this game is that watching the videos and playing the game are nearly the same thing. So if you see it, you're almost as able to judge it as the one who's played it.

I take it you never played Indigo Prophecy or any adventure game huh?

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#109 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Oh boy, the pretentious tags have been thrown out. Whenever something tries to do something somewhat original, it will get the pretentious tag slapped on it. I mean, come on - the game isn't even out yet.

It's pretentious because it's trying to be something other than a videogame.
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#110 JLF1
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Oh boy, the pretentious tags have been thrown out. Whenever something tries to do something somewhat original, it will get the pretentious tag slapped on it. I mean, come on - the game isn't even out yet.Fried_Shrimp
It's pretentious because it's trying to be something other than a videogame.

Actually it's not doing that at all.

That is unless you think games like Wii sports or Wii Fit are also pretentious.

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#111 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Oh boy, the pretentious tags have been thrown out. Whenever something tries to do something somewhat original, it will get the pretentious tag slapped on it. I mean, come on - the game isn't even out yet.JLF1

It's pretentious because it's trying to be something other than a videogame.

Actually it's not doing that at all.

That is unless you think games like Wii sports or Wii Fit are also pretentious.

How is Wii Fit similar to Heavy Rain? Wii Fit is a workout. Heavy Rain makes you flush the toilet.

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#112 JLF1
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How is Wii Fit similar to Heavy Rain? Wii Fit is a workout. Heavy Rain makes you flush the toilet.

Fried_Shrimp

They aren't similar but seeing as your idea of a pretentious game is trying to be something other then a game Wii sports and Wii fit can easly be said to be just that.

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#113 skrat_01
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Fahrenheit Enough said. Games doing something unique =/= pretentious. Gamers asking for innovation and unique games then complaining about a game like this equates to hypocrisy.
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#114 skrat_01
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It's pretentious because it's trying to be something other than a videogame.Fried_Shrimp
There is so much wrong with this statement its hard to know where to begin.
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#115 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Fahrenheit Enough said. Games doing something unique =/= pretentious. Gamers asking for innovation and unique games then complaining about a game like this equates to hypocrisy. skrat_01

Well said. Either players are demanding games exactly like those that they grew up, or completely different experiences, but either way, they complain.

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#116 HellsAngel2c
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TC is pretentious. Get an education and use the word correctly next time! Maybe then will people in this thread actually care about what you think
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#117 rockguy92
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It's the first 9 minutes.
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#118 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]Oh boy, the pretentious tags have been thrown out. Whenever something tries to do something somewhat original, it will get the pretentious tag slapped on it. I mean, come on - the game isn't even out yet.JLF1

It's pretentious because it's trying to be something other than a videogame.

Actually it's not doing that at all.

That is unless you think games like Wii sports or Wii Fit are also pretentious.

It totally is trying to be something more than a videogame though. David Cage has continually made this distinction.

And sure, Nintendo can be perceived to have been pretentious. When someone blabbers about how they're gonna change the industry or some such I always scoff. But then sometimes they actually do manage to change the industry. That's when I stop thinking them pretentious anyway. Pretension and ambition often go hand in hand and can be difficult to distinguish from one another I reckon.

But ultimately, one or the other or both, I don't care. Heavy Rain is my kind of game, and it looks to be a great one.

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#119 KristoffBrujah
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[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

That's cool.

Indigo Prophecy was like that and it was awesome, so pretentious or not, this will still be awesome.

Fried_Shrimp

Fareignheight wasn't really pretentious. Heavy Rain is trying to be a simulation, but it's not a simulation. It's just pretentious.

What? You did the same **** in Farenheit. Take a shower, take a wizz, etc.

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#120 InsaneBasura
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Yeah Fahrenheit was also pretentious. And turned out to be pretentious, for real, to a high degree. David Cage criticized the narrative of a typical videogame for being structured like a porno. So that was kind of ironic. Parts of Fahrenheit were nothing but wankery. Still a good game with a lot of promise, very interesting design and ideas.

Saying Heavy Rain is pretentious but Fahrenheit wasn't, that's a pretty big fallacy.

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#121 brandontwb
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Someone just learned a new word. It seems to me like you think you know the mindset of the developers, or you think you know something or you are assuming something that's just not there.
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#122 MrFanboy
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pretentious [prɪˈtɛnʃəs] adj 1. making claim to distinction or importance, esp undeservedly 2. having or creating a deceptive outer appearance of great worth; ostentatious
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#123 InsaneBasura
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I vote for option 1. Potentially without the last bit.
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#124 Hahadouken
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Oh noez, something different. My mind can't compute.

I can't wait for this game. I am pretty intrigued by this "adult" nudity it's going to feature too, since the graphics are remarkably realistic. I'm glad it's actually going to BE different, instead of just saying it's something new and not delivering. Thanks for hyping me up, can't wait for this pretentious title.

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#125 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

It tries to be something it's not. In the first 9 minuits you have to shave your character, take your character to the toilet, flush the toilet, and brush your teeth. It tries to be something other than a videogame.

Heavy Rain gets my award for most pretentious game this generation.

Pretentiousness: 10/10

So, you liek press X repeatedly to push out a log, and shake the remote to get the drips off? then flush with BOX?
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#126 batman_is_aweso
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[QUOTE="punkrocker163"]Wow its just a basic tutorial on how to play.NAPK1NS
I know, right? Talk about overreacting.

its ok lemming just because u dont like it doesnt mean everyone wont

also i think your a lemming so im sorry if your not