Heavy Rain is the best game this generation, do you agree?

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#101 PBSnipes
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From what I've seen, the voice acting was pretty awful was well.

I mean, people give Final Fantasy XIII crap for its voice acting, but atleast it's lively and sounds energetic. Heavy Rain's voice acting is ridiculously wooden.

I think this is the kind of game that people overlook these things because it does other stuff that is pretty amazing. Still, the game is too story-driven to ignore that stuff IMO.

GreySeal9

Yeah, the English VO is so bad I ended up using the French track, and even that isn't anything to write home about.

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#102 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Hah. **** no. The game didn't even have a good story to carry it. It is a remarkably different game, that goes against many gaming conventions; I admire it for that. However even for an 'interactive movie' it is downright terrible. Because even B grade thrillers have better narratives than it does, and even games that are 'interactive dramas' have far better interactivity than it does. In short, your opinion couldn't be further off the mark.GreySeal9

This. If Heavy Rain's gameplay was something more substantial than its point-and-click/QTE hybrid gameplay I could forgive the narrative, but when the game is all but entirely story driven it's impossible to ignore the awful, awful writing.

From what I've seen, the voice acting was pretty awful was well.

I mean, people give Final Fantasy XIII crap for its voice acting, but atleast it's lively and sounds energetic. Heavy Rain's voice acting is ridiculously wooden.

I think this is the kind of game that people overlook these things because it does other stuff that is pretty amazing. Still, the game is too story-driven to ignore that stuff IMO.

Oh the voice acting and script are pretty bad, but the way the plot develops, and the amount of plot holes; It is just insulting. Nothing gels, nothing comes together properly, developments are almost completely arbitrary.

It is just as bad as an amateur hacking together a plot for a C grade, straight to DVD movie.

Honestly how the hell did critics not criticise the game more for this, considering the gameplay itself is based around the ****ing plot.
This is supposed to be an example of a compelling game, with a narrative that draws me in and makes me care?

No, just no, this is a stain of what it was hyped as; even if it's vision of standing out from the pack was never compromised.

/rant.

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#103 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Hah. **** no. The game didn't even have a good story to carry it. It is a remarkably different game, that goes against many gaming conventions; I admire it for that. However even for an 'interactive movie' it is downright terrible. Because even B grade thrillers have better narratives than it does, and even games that are 'interactive dramas' have far better interactivity than it does. In short, your opinion couldn't be further off the mark.GreySeal9

This. If Heavy Rain's gameplay was something more substantial than its point-and-click/QTE hybrid gameplay I could forgive the narrative, but when the game is all but entirely story driven it's impossible to ignore the awful, awful writing.

From what I've seen, the voice acting was pretty awful was well.

I mean, people give Final Fantasy XIII crap for its voice acting, but atleast it's lively and sounds energetic. Heavy Rain's voice acting is ridiculously wooden.

I think this is the kind of game that people overlook these things because it does other stuff that is pretty amazing. Still, the game is too story-driven to ignore that stuff IMO.

Voice acting was iffy, and the plot holes were plenty, but eh the characters were likeable enough to keep going. What I Loved about it really was that it felt like you actually changed alot if you screwed up. Consequences were actually there and the story took some nice twists depending on what you did. I also enjoyed the scenarios in general as alot of the moments in the game got me on the edge of my seat. again it's more of an appreciation for what it atleast did right than what it wanted to be. That said I've made piece with David Cage being a pretentious douche bag that isn't going to make the "mature" well thought out game he thinks he's making. If the stupid sex scene in Indigo Prophecy wasn't bad enough, he backed it up with an even more contrived moment in Heavy Rain. I was just so freakin happy that my girlfriend was asleep during that part of the game. I would have never heard the end of it.
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#104 Leo-Magic
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noooooooooooo
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#105 Teuf_
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I doubt I'd ever consider it "the best game", but it might end up providing some of the most memorable experiences. Some things in that game just made me go "OMGWTF??"

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#106 Leo-Magic
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lol noooo again
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#107 MrFamBoyLOL
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Not even close. I am pretty sure not every gamer loves to press buttons when asked. If they do, they should just play RockBand/Guitar Hero/ Dance Dance Revolution games.
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#108 Pbjb989
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It's on of the most important of the generation. But not the best.

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#109 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Heavy Rain is nothing like Shenmue.jg4xchamp

Shenmue allowed for more exploration and was more open, but they were essentially the same thing.

:lol: oh my god what a load of crap.

Shenmue did allowed much more exploration and was more open than HR,by far. They were not the same thing though,with the exception of the ocasional QTE in Shenmue that works in a very diferent way than HR.
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#110 tubbyc
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I found it to be a good game but not great. I thought the story was disappointing and the QTE was more stressful than in Indigo Prophecy. Part of it was the pointless use of the six axis motion, and the instruction icons sometimes blending in with the environment. I actually thought the voice acting was fine and I liked the characters. It was still pretty compelling.

On the other hand, since someone mentioned Final Fantasy XIII, I'm finding it to have cheesy voice acting and dialog, but the gameplay is excellent.

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#111 svenus97
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Yes, it is. No, it isn't. I don't have a favourite game of all time, all games I buy are good games (for me anyway), and all the good games are my favourite games. Heavy Rain is one of them.

EDIT: Oh, and that Games-radar article has to be the most nitpicky article I have ever read. If you took any great story you are bound to come into a few plot holes, that only the biggest nitpicker would find.

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#112 JAB991
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And if we're talking about story and gameplay, MGS 4 is better.

It's all about experience....that you can't feel it on another game......

ihsanqueen

Not only should MGS4 be the best game this gen, based on the criteria and your opinions (gameplay>everything else), but you clearly have never played Indigo Prophecy if you Heavy Rain provided something that "you can't feel it on another game"

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#113 skrat_01
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EDIT: Oh, and that Games-radar article has to be the most nitpicky article I have ever read. If you took any great story you are bound to come into a few plot holes, that only the biggest nitpicker would find.

svenus97
You don't even need to nitpick with Heavy Rain's narrative, there are serious flaws in the plot, certain scenes and character development, as well as the games own design. Once you do nitpick, it all comes together as a network of problems marring the game as a whole.
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#114 gandaf007
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In short, your opinion couldn't be further off the mark.skrat_01

How can an opinion be off the mark? If you enjoy a game, it doesn't matter much what critics or the general public thinks of a game. As long as you like it or love it, it doesn't matter.

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#115 Combii
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No. No and No.

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#116 Clank-PS-Snake
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy but it's still great.
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#117 TheGreatOutdoor
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Well TC, it would appear that next to nobody agrees with you. I would be one of them. If you really feel Heavy Rain is the best this gen, then I feel sorry for you for clearly being deprived of many many many many many (did I say many) games this gen.

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#118 6matt6
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How can a game with such a badly written story be the best game?
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#119 shaggyaz
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nope,great game but for me MGS4 is the best game this generation

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#120 deactivated-59d151f079814
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No... Its short and not ground breaking in the least.. This kind of thing was already done in the 90s with movies you could control.. They just made the obvious additions of the game like quick button actions.. And the story was quite absurd..
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#121 metalgear-solid
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I think storywise the first time through itmight just be the most special experience you can get in any game this generation. Sure is close to MGS4.

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#122 Laxer04
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i have yet to play heavy rain, so i didnt vote.

demons souls is by far the best game i have played this gen, and i doubt anything will top it

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#123 rolo107
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I do not think judging a game by its uniqueness is very conclusive. Big Rigs is an extremely unique experience, but it would never be regarded as the best gaming experience other than for humorous effect.
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#124 a_simple_gamer
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i have yet to play heavy rain, so i didnt vote.

demons souls is by far the best game i have played this gen, and i doubt anything will top it

Laxer04
Demon Soul is definatly one of the best, i loved every bit of it, and is defianatly in my top5 this gen, actually i am playing it right now :) Heavy Rain is not even in my top25 games this gen though
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#125 dommeus
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No. It was worth playing but for a game that relies heavily on story it wasn't great.

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#126 chocolate1325
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No it isn't even the best PS3 game Uncharted 2 is better than it on PS3.

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#127 noob-saibot2010
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sure it's a good game.but thinking about mass effect or alan wake makes me choose them over this one.

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#128 tryagainlater
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Uncharted 2 was the best game this gen in my opinion. Heavy Rain was still a pretty good game.

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#129 Snugenz
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Played the demo today (yeah i know i took my time) really really interesting game and i'll definitely pick it up when i get my BD drive repaired, my mate was with me when i was playing it and the HR demo and LBP seem to have convinced him to get a PS3. :D

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#130 Crazyguy105
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I'm afraid I can't love anything about QTE's.

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#131 heretrix
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NO. Not in your wildest dreams. It's a great game, I enjoyed far more than I thought I would, but game of the generation? Hell no.

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#132 WhenCicadasCry
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No.

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#133 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

You know what TC, kudos to you for at least giving the people the option to disagree AND for making it clear that in your opinion HR is the best game this generation... too many threads now a days try shoving ones opinion down our throat. I know I'm guilty of this as well :P

With that said, I'll have to disagree :( ... I thought it was a great experience, very unique but it didn't quite grasp me like it did some people, I would give it a solid 8.3. Back in June of 08 there was a title released, I'm not sure you'ved heard of it before not sure many have to be quite honest but it was called Metal Gear Solid 4 and to this day I still stick by as that being my favorite game released this gen.

toxicmog

One of my worst games was MGS4, did not do the series justice.

I've never understood the whole "did not do the series justice" claim when it comes to MGS4 ... is it because you could actually move and aim at the sametime? or the fact that it didn't have the horrible top down camera view? It topped past entries in every conceivable way :/

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#134 a_simple_gamer
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No it isn't even the best PS3 game Uncharted 2 is better than it on PS3.

chocolate1325
While i dont agree that Heavy Rain is the best game, i find it far better than Uncharted 1-2, or any simplistic linear shooter anyway
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#135 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="toxicmog"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

You know what TC, kudos to you for at least giving the people the option to disagree AND for making it clear that in your opinion HR is the best game this generation... too many threads now a days try shoving ones opinion down our throat. I know I'm guilty of this as well :P

With that said, I'll have to disagree :( ... I thought it was a great experience, very unique but it didn't quite grasp me like it did some people, I would give it a solid 8.3. Back in June of 08 there was a title released, I'm not sure you'ved heard of it before not sure many have to be quite honest but it was called Metal Gear Solid 4 and to this day I still stick by as that being my favorite game released this gen.

W1NGMAN-

One of my worst games was MGS4, did not do the series justice.

I've never understood the whole "did not do the series justice" claim when it comes to MGS4 ... is it because you could actually move and aim at the sametime? or the fact that it didn't have the horrible top down camera view? It topped past entries in every conceivable way :/

I don't think your last claim is true at all. I thought the story was pretty lackluster compared to the others. It was horribly unfocused and didn't have a distinctive plot. It seemed way more dependent on other games compared to MGS3 and the others. I also thought the environments were far more bland and the pacing started to get pretty ridiculous after Act 2. The gameplay definitely topped past entries though.

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#136 hrt_rulz01
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Not sure if it's the best but definitely one of the better single player experiences this gen... If you love a great story in a game, then HR is a must buy!

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#137 nick35
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It was an amazing game but no
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#138 loco145
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Shattered Memories is a better experience and story telling than Heavy Rain.
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#139 ShuichiChamp24
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Haven't played it but I doubt it.

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#140 Jynxzor
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Personally? It's in my top 10, but #1? No. I respect the game alot for going places few games dare tread, having an intruiging plot, good twist ext. But some parts of it felt me wanting more than what I was offered, it felt like it was short, or missing something. as a single playthrough experience it ranks up in some of my best moments of being a gamer, but at the same time makes me wonder what else could be done with the series besides copy/paste the formula into a new story.
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#141 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]In short, your opinion couldn't be further off the mark.gandaf007

How can an opinion be off the mark? If you enjoy a game, it doesn't matter much what critics or the general public thinks of a game. As long as you like it or love it, it doesn't matter.

Oh true I don't disagree however proclemation that it is a 'better game' based on 'x' merits against 'y' titles; then i'd have to disagree.

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#142 thepoop7
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I like how its either you hate it or really really love this game..
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#143 a_simple_gamer
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I like how its either you hate it or really really love this game..thepoop7

I liked it, but not that much, so i am in the middle

I may be the only one though, i dont know that

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#144 ultraking
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i can see alot of scenes being really fun using the move.. example: what do you use to cut your finger off ,and just imagine having to do the motion too:?

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#145 ForceFreeze
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Heavy Rain was definitely an engrossing experience the first time through, however it has to be stated that the writing is absolutely sloppy at times, not to mention an inconsistent narrative plagued some scenes.

Nevertheless, Heavy Rain has innovated on the use of QTEs in this game. The lack of any "game over" made the player feel much more emotionally connected to the action in every QTE fight, as blunders can prove costly.

Heavy Rain could had been a masterpiece, unfortuanately the inconsistent writing and narrative bogs it down. I would really wish to see more developers step up and follow what Quantic Dream has put to the table with Heavy Rain.

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#146 Elian2530
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This year so far maybe, but this generation? Heck no.

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#147 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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I'm sorry, but not even. It wasn't that great for me, maybe borderline good.

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#148 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Best game of this generation? Gotta go to Mass Effect 2 :)

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#149 Crimsader
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One of the best - ok, but the best... You can't define it as the best. It has it's flaws...
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#150 SilverChimera
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I haven't played it yet. It looks interesting but also looks like something that I'd play once and never touch again.