Heavy Rain = new crowned Graphic King

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#151 Planeforger
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We're talking common sense here. There is nothing, not a single game, on PS3 that comes anywhere near to that. It is an obvious bullshot and anyone who believes that is how in game characters are going to look must also believe in the tooth fairy.

AnnoyedDragon

I don't think you can really compare Heavy Rain to other games on the PS3, since other games on the PS3 have to devote part of their processing power to things like AI, physics, rapid on-screen actions, multiple character models on sceen at a time, and so on.

Heavy Rain is an adventure game, so very little of that^ applies to it, for the same reason that the Myst series still looks better than most of the games out there.

*edit* Calling it an adventure game might've been a bit too generous. :P

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#152 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]How does what is essentially a movie impress you?tirralirra
How does predicting what a game is like before release constructive in anyway! Besides, he's talking about graphics, and from those screens, the game looks very appetising.

We know what the game is like. It is not a big deal since it is aiming to a story crowd. Why do people keep getting jarated over my comment, it is true
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#153 AnnoyedDragon
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I don't think you can really compare Heavy Rain to other games on the PS3, since other games on the PS3 have to devote part of their processing power to things like AI, physics, rapid on-screen actions, multiple character models on sceen at a time, and so on.

Heavy Rain is an adventure game, so very little of that^ applies to it, for the same reason that the Myst series still looks better than most of the games out there.

Planeforger

I realize that, but it has already been pointed out that the images they were pushing as being real time in game were in fact just artistic renders.

People seriously overestimate the PS3 and think anything is possible if the developers simply worked at it, even if what is being shown contradicts well known system resources.

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#154 aero250
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It does look great, but why does every PS3 exclusive get hyped up as the greatest thing ever? Demon's Souls is the greatest RPG ever. Uncharted was the best looking game ever. Gran Turismo is still the best sim racer, even though it hasn't been AAA since 2001. Everything sucks and Uncharted 2 is the greatest gaming masterpiece to ever be released. Etc. Etc. It's truly astounding, no offense to all the fans who dig hyping everything up like its never been done before. I wonder when some started gaming. It seems many started on the PS3, which makes sense.

Anyways, I can't wait for Heavy Rain, but let's tone it down a bit, k?

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I agree, Hyping ever PS3 exclusive is just over the top.
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#155 ManicAce
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Why did they build a table around the tree? Anyway, the screenshots are too tiny to really say anything about them, could be shots from PS Home for all I know. The character models look impressive, but the ones seen in the gameplay video weren't anywhere near them, nor were the graphics overall that great.
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#156 Hanass
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[QUOTE="ForceFreeze"]

People should stop crowning unrealesed games as graphics king :?

navyguy21

cows will continue to do so, just like they crowned Uncharted 2 as the next graphics king, and KZ2 as the current king................why does system wars let them bully the system like that?? Im sure im not the only person who thinks RE5/Gears 2 looks on par with it, and i actually PLAY the game quite a bit, i actually think RE5 should be leader, although graphics are subjective

IT's cow elitism, nothing you can do about it.

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#157 AnnoyedDragon
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="ForceFreeze"]

People should stop crowning unrealesed games as graphics king :?

Hanass

cows will continue to do so, just like they crowned Uncharted 2 as the next graphics king, and KZ2 as the current king................why does system wars let them bully the system like that?? Im sure im not the only person who thinks RE5/Gears 2 looks on par with it, and i actually PLAY the game quite a bit, i actually think RE5 should be leader, although graphics are subjective

IT's cow elitism, nothing you can do about it.

What else do people expect when you look at the sort of marketing they were fed? If you take Sony's flop figures literally RSX is nearly as powerful as a GF GTX 295, yeah that dual GPU one. Sony pushed the PS3 as being on par with a super computer and the fanboys believed them.

Now we get X PS3 game Vs Crysis every new game, they call the most prestige developers lazy and seem to think PS3 performance potential is practically infinite.

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#158 CTR360
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Looks pretty average to me.

2-10-08
are you serious one of the best looking game next year with god of war3
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#159 JetB1ackNewYear
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[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

Looks pretty average to me.

CTR360

are you serious one of the best looking game next year with god of war3

god of war 3 is no way near graphics king. i played the demo and its not the best looking game. dont get me wrong its looks alright. but IMO heavy rain has been downgraded horribly since weve seen it a year ago. every screen i see of gameplay keeps getting worse

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#160 The__Havoc
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It is my opinion that anyone who claims a console game is graphics king against Crysis should be penalized. Killzone 2, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, God of War, GT5 every exclusive that comes out for PS3 is apparently going to have better graphics then Crysis. When will people realize that its impossible for the PS3 to do so?

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#161 sexy_robot_man
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I have been looking at some new pictures and am in awe these look like something on PC in high settings.

I think we may have found a new graphic king in the graphics console PS3

simslifer

The phail you have put forth today will forever discredit you here in System Wars.

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#162 mitu123
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It is my opinion that anyone who claims a console game is graphics king against Crysis should be penalized. Killzone 2, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, God of War, GT5 every exclusive that comes out for PS3 is apparently going to have better graphics then Crysis. When will people realize that its impossible for the PS3 to do so?

The__Havoc

LOL, those are exactly the games that cows will use against Crysis, and if I predict right, The Last Guardian hopefully.:lol:

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#163 Hanass
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It saddens me that overdone bloom can trick cows into thinking that their zomg exclusive is the new graphics king.

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#164 sexy_robot_man
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No consoles can come near modded Crysis that thing is beautiful, why does this still have to be discussed. The PC guys just sit around waiting for these mindless threads to be created. The fact that Crysis is boring and played by no one is completetly besides the point.

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#165 Hanass
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No consoles can come near modded Crysis that thing is beautiful, why does this still have to be discussed. The PC guys just sit around waiting for these mindless threads to be created. The fact that Crysis is boring and played by no one is completetly besides the point.

sexy_robot_man

I sure enjoyed Crysis a lot more than those other "graphics kings" (Killzone 2). I had to force myself to play through the damn campaign a second time.

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#166 Floppy_Jim
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Nothing that couldn't have been done on the PS2. The graphics don't really look that special anymore.
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#167 colosion
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[QUOTE="CTR360"][QUOTE="2-10-08"]

Looks pretty average to me.

JetB1ackNewYear

are you serious one of the best looking game next year with god of war3

god of war 3 is no way near graphics king. i played the demo and its not the best looking game. dont get me wrong its looks alright. but IMO heavy rain has been downgraded horribly since weve seen it a year ago. every screen i see of gameplay keeps getting worse

I think that's because there is no polish in those videos. They have terrible VA and animations (and the dialogue is just awfull, Uncharted tops it by far). In the first video (the one that was shown one year ago), was really polished and it was amazing... these new videos... bah.

David Cage confirmed that scenario is not in-game and isn't even in the game. She is in the game, but not that part...BioshockOwnz
WHAT? It is not in the game, but is in-game, it was demoed in front of a audience.

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#168 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

No consoles can come near modded Crysis that thing is beautiful, why does this still have to be discussed. The PC guys just sit around waiting for these mindless threads to be created. The fact that Crysis is boring and played by no one is completetly besides the point.

Hanass

I sure enjoyed Crysis a lot more than those other "graphics kings" (Killzone 2). I had to force myself to play through the damn campaign a second time.

Yeah, I have to agree here. Crysis was a very fun game, I've played through the campaign no less than 5 times xD
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#169 simslifer
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Nothing that couldn't have been done on the PS2. The graphics don't really look that special anymore.Floppy_Jim

lol I think someones delusional this is PS2 graphics ??????????

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#170 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Nothing that couldn't have been done on the PS2. The graphics don't really look that special anymore.simslifer

lol I think someones delusional this is PS2 graphics ??????????

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He is talking about gameplay.

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#171 simslifer
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

No consoles can come near modded Crysis that thing is beautiful, why does this still have to be discussed. The PC guys just sit around waiting for these mindless threads to be created. The fact that Crysis is boring and played by no one is completetly besides the point.

kieranb2000

I sure enjoyed Crysis a lot more than those other "graphics kings" (Killzone 2). I had to force myself to play through the damn campaign a second time.

Yeah, I have to agree here. Crysis was a very fun game, I've played through the campaign no less than 5 times xD

I have crysis it was ok but too repetitive sneak up on enemies like predator.

I found Killzone 2 to be more action packed btw I got sick of the jungle in crysis.

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#172 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"][QUOTE="Hanass"]

I sure enjoyed Crysis a lot more than those other "graphics kings" (Killzone 2). I had to force myself to play through the damn campaign a second time.

simslifer

Yeah, I have to agree here. Crysis was a very fun game, I've played through the campaign no less than 5 times xD

I have crysis it was ok but too repetitive sneak up on enemies like predator.

I found Killzone 2 to be more action packed btw I got sick of the jungle in crysis.

If you found sneaking too repetitive then why did you keep doing it? :S The great thing about Crysis is the gameplay choices it gives you, I've played through the campaign only killing when I absolutely need to, and being stealthy. But I've also played it just guns blazing, slaughtering everyone without using the stealth mode once.
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#173 AnnoyedDragon
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I have crysis it was ok but too repetitive sneak up on enemies like predator.

I found Killzone 2 to be more action packed btw I got sick of the jungle in crysis.

simslifer

You think an open approach game like Crysis is repetitive but a game like KZ2 is not?

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#174 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Why are we still arguing over pics when we have teh video :shock:

That's why I hate arguing over pics.

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#175 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Why are we still arguing over pics when we have teh video :shock:

That's why I hate arguing over pics.

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Exactly. The video proves the mediocrity of the graphics, we don't need the screenshots to do it.
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#176 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Exactly. The video proves the mediocrity of the graphics, we don't need the screenshots to do it.kieranb2000
Actually I think it looks great. Not as the screens showed here, but it is still a beautiful game.
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#177 Furzjodler
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heres the first picture

simslifer

The tree is growing through the table :shock:

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#178 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]How does what is essentially a movie impress you?SparkyProtocol
How does predicting what a game is like before release constructive in anyway! Besides, he's talking about graphics, and from those screens, the game looks very appetising.

We know what the game is like. It is not a big deal since it is aiming to a story crowd. Why do people keep getting jarated over my comment, it is true

well you cant exactly change the storyline of a movie based on how quick your reflexes are or what ever option is promted onscreen

its one big quick-time-event game but as you said its aimed at the story driven crowd, but its still a game just with less gameplay as other games

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#179 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="kieranb2000"]Exactly. The video proves the mediocrity of the graphics, we don't need the screenshots to do it.IronBass
Actually I think it looks great. Not as the screens showed here, but it is still a beautiful game.

I would say mediocre over all. I mean, if we just look at the models and textures and filters and what not, then yes, it is great. But the animation in that trailer ranges from great to downright awful, and the interaction between models and objects/other models is absolutely terrible. So it balances out.
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#180 Nonstop-Madness  Online
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Heavy Rain might look really good but the only reason is because the whole damn game is a cutscene. That aside, I'll be surprised if this game got more than a 7.
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#181 stvee101
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Why are we still arguing over pics when we have teh video :shock:

That's why I hate arguing over pics.

IronBass

That looks great.Seriously great. :D

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#182 Hanass
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Why are we still arguing over pics when we have teh video :shock:

That's why I hate arguing over pics.

stvee101

That looks great.Seriously great. :D

You have a GTX 295 and you think it looks great? I don't believe it.

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#183 X_CAPCOM_X
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]WOW look at that :D

those pictures are amazing

wolverine4262

its barely interactive...

- ^^^Coming from someone who's played Indigo Prophecy . . . oh wait.

I have to point out how funny it is that people try to bash the game with things like "interactive movie" or "you don't even play." Have you people ever played Indigo Prophecy? My guess is no. The gameplay style does not automtically make it a horrible game. (See indigo prophecy)

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#184 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]

[QUOTE="simslifer"]WOW look at that :D

those pictures are amazing

X_CAPCOM_X

its barely interactive...

- ^^^Coming from someone who's played Indigo Prophecy . . . oh wait.

I have to point out how funny it is that people try to bash the game with things like "interactive movie" or "you don't even play." Have you people ever played Indigo Prophecy? My guess is no. The gameplay style does not automtically make it a horrible game. (See indigo prophecy)

They aren't bashing the type of gameplay. They're simply pointing out that great graphics in a game like this are almost a given, and aren't a major technical feat at all since so little is going on.
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#185 stvee101
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[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Why are we still arguing over pics when we have teh video :shock:

That's why I hate arguing over pics.

Hanass

That looks great.Seriously great. :D

You have a GTX 295 and you think it looks great? I don't believe it.

To my eyes it looks great,just because it isn't crysis doesn't mean it can't.

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#186 Snagal123
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I have crysis it was ok but too repetitive sneak up on enemies like predator.

I found Killzone 2 to be more action packed btw I got sick of the jungle in crysis.

simslifer

I got sick of the lack of any colour but grey in KZ2.

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#187 Vandalvideo
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lol I think someones delusional this is PS2 graphics ??????????simslifer
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#188 simslifer
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

heres the first picture

Furzjodler

The tree is growing through the table :shock:

i'm thinking it's a design the table has a hole so the tree can pass through.

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#189 DPhunkT
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Looks good. But I wonder how the gameplay will pan out.
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#190 simslifer
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Heavy Rain might look really good but the only reason is because the whole damn game is a cutscene. That aside, I'll be surprised if this game got more than a 7. Nonstop-Madness

are you aware that Indigo Prophecy got an 8.4 ?

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#191 h575309
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Meh, looks good but their are plenty of better looking games.

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#192 simslifer
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"] its barely interactive...

pyromaniac223

- ^^^Coming from someone who's played Indigo Prophecy . . . oh wait.

I have to point out how funny it is that people try to bash the game with things like "interactive movie" or "you don't even play." Have you people ever played Indigo Prophecy? My guess is no. The gameplay style does not automtically make it a horrible game. (See indigo prophecy)

They aren't bashing the type of gameplay. They're simply pointing out that great graphics in a game like this are almost a given, and aren't a major technical feat at all since so little is going on.

that's not true Indigo Prophecy did not have amazing visual it was mediocre and it was a game like this.

so that excuse doesn't work the game is just a masterpiece.

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#193 simslifer
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Looks good. But I wonder how the gameplay will pan out.DPhunkT

it will play like Indigo Prophecy I am sure Heavy Rain will have an exciting and intense story.

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#194 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

- ^^^Coming from someone who's played Indigo Prophecy . . . oh wait.

I have to point out how funny it is that people try to bash the game with things like "interactive movie" or "you don't even play." Have you people ever played Indigo Prophecy? My guess is no. The gameplay style does not automtically make it a horrible game. (See indigo prophecy)

simslifer

They aren't bashing the type of gameplay. They're simply pointing out that great graphics in a game like this are almost a given, and aren't a major technical feat at all since so little is going on.

that's not true Indigo Prophecy did not have amazing visual it was mediocre and it was a game like this.

so that excuse doesn't work the game is just a masterpiece.

Sigh. I'm not saying that it's going to be in every game like this. I'm saying that it is much, much, much , MUCH less difficult. There's just not much stuff going on, so it's easy to make what's there look fantastic. But your credibility is already gone anyway.
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#195 simslifer
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why is every1 bashing it because it plays like Indigo Prophecy and Farrenheit those games are awesome what do you wnat it to play like another FPS ?

I like diversity in my games I get tired of the same old shoot everything that moves, that's why I like The Sims 3, Little Big Planet, Street Fighter, MGS4 along with my Killzone 2, and Call of Duty games and I will like my Heavy Rain.

Repeat after me diversity is good, diversity is good....

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#196 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

why is every1 bashing it because it plays like Indigo Prophecy and Farrenheit those games are awesome what do you wnat it to play like FPS I like diversity in my games I GET TIRED OF THE SAME OLD SHOOT EVERTHING THAT MOVES, THAT'S WHY I LIKE The Sims 3, Little Big Planet, Street Fighter, MGS4 along with my Killzone 2, and CALL OF DUTY games.

Repeat after me diversity is good, diversity is good....

What?
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#197 pyromaniac223
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why is every1 bashing it because it plays like Indigo Prophecy and Farrenheit those games are awesome what do you wnat it to play like FPS I like diversity in my games I get tired of the same old shoot everything that moves, that's why I like The Sims 3, Little Big Planet, Street Fighter, MGS4 along with my Killzone 2, and Call of Duty games.

Repeat after me diversity is good, diversity is good....

simslifer
Again, you have your head stuck in the sand and are refusing to see the actual argument. Of course, that argument is completely valid and annihilates your asinine assertions (lol alliteration) so I can't really blame you.
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#198 mitu123
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why is every1 bashing it because it plays like Indigo Prophecy and Farrenheit those games are awesome what do you wnat it to play like another FPS ?

I like diversity in my games I get tired of the same old shoot everything that moves, that's why I like The Sims 3, Little Big Planet, Street Fighter, MGS4 along with my Killzone 2, and Call of Duty games and I will like my Heavy Rain.

Repeat after me diversity is good, diversity is good....

simslifer
I'm glad we have people like you who to play more than just shooters, Indigo Prophecy was an amazing experience and I cant wait for this game.
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#199 colosion
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@pyromaniac223

how do you know? Have you played it? In fact, the game has AI, scenes where there are very large groups of people (mall, subway), and it has no loading. Each one with a animation.

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#200 SparkyProtocol
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I do not see anyone bashing the game. It is easy to pull off good graphics when the gameplay is QTEs with a little walking around. Or is the gameplay videos and demos on G4 that I saw not the game?