Heavy Rain - The BEST Story this Gen

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#51 AD216
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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="mythrol"] [QUOTE="MJPK"]

It has a good story but Mass Effect, The Darkness and Bioshock have better storys imo.

MJPK

wow. the darkness? weak

What was wrong with the darkness?

it aint terrible. just not nothin memorable
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="mythrol"]

So I just beat Heavy Rain on my second playthrough and all I can say is WOW. This game has the best story I've seen this entire gen so far. (I'm not going to argue about what future not released titles might or might not be better - I'm talking current shipped games)

I'm highly shocked after playing it that it's not a AAA game. The way that the story is handled and everything unfolds is truly a masterpiece. And even replaying the game I got an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT story. I also found the controls to even further ENHANCE the story, making you feel more a part of the action then I've felt before. The entire branding system seems to allow for almost unlimited playthrough because you make so many choices that have an effect on different scenes.

Having played a ton of RPGs this gen, which are suppose to be story driven, Heavy Rain blows them all out of the water. Beliable characters, grounded in real life, and plenty of TWISTS. Simply a stellar, amazing game.

9.5 for me (only problem was the sixaxis controls sometimes didn't register right).

my biggest issue with the game were the controls. i know its a different experience than most titles, but is it that much to ask developers to not use a modifier (in this case the l2 button) to move? i think the left analog stick would have handled it nicely. on topic, i liked the story, but i still preferred ME2.

That's the main reason I can't seem to get into this game I believe, the controls. I keep trying to play the game, but quit after half an hour or so because the controls really put me off. I'll probably finish it some day, when I feel I have nothing else to play at that moment but for now it's sitting on the shelf.
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#53 tryagainlater
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Heavy Rain has a great story. I'll admit that there is a couple of problems with the plot but I think some people are way too critical of the plot holes.

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#54 MangaJ
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I didn't find Heavy Rain's story to be very good. It was too convoluted, WAY too slow-paced at parts, predictable, and didn't leave me thinking about it afterwards. If it were a book, I wouldn't have finished it. If it were a movie, I wouldn't have liked it.

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#55 88mphSlayer
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So I just beat Heavy Rain on my second playthrough and all I can say is WOW. This game has the best story I've seen this entire gen so far. (I'm not going to argue about what future not released titles might or might not be better - I'm talking current shipped games)

I'm highly shocked after playing it that it's not a AAA game. The way that the story is handled and everything unfolds is truly a masterpiece. And even replaying the game I got an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT story. I also found the controls to even further ENHANCE the story, making you feel more a part of the action then I've felt before. The entire branding system seems to allow for almost unlimited playthrough because you make so many choices that have an effect on different scenes.

Having played a ton of RPGs this gen, which are suppose to be story driven, Heavy Rain blows them all out of the water. Beliable characters, grounded in real life, and plenty of TWISTS. Simply a stellar, amazing game.

9.5 for me (only problem was the sixaxis controls sometimes didn't register right).

mythrol

funny i thought it was the worst story this gen

even in 2010, imo Bioshock 2 and Mass Effect 2 blow HR away, and what i've played of Metro 2033 is great too

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#56 reanimatedchamp
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Thank you for sharing but in my personal gaming experience, reality of things, and educated opinion, Heavy Rain's story is forgettable. And if you really pay attention to the story you will find out there are loop holes that make the forgettable story even more forgettable. If I remember correctly the developers stated that they will not make a sequel of any kind for Heavy Rain. So I will give credit where credit is due and thank the developers for stating that. So I disagree, Heavy Rain's story is not even close to being the best this gaming generation, in my personal educated reality of opinions.
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#57 Pices
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The game is outstanding, if any Ps3 exclusive deserves GOTY, its Heavy Rain
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#58 rickatick
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Ummmm, no. I can see these kind of stories on lifetime movie channel everyday....
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#59 MangaJ
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Ummmm, no. I can see these kind of stories on lifetime movie channel everyday....rickatick

Win thread.

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#60 felipebo
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FF13 says hi.

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#61 Chemical_Viking
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FF13 says hi.

felipebo

It does? How does an inanimate object manage that?

Final Fantasy was a bunch of whiny, miserable characters walking along a straight road for no apparent reason in the first 20 hours. That is exceptionally poor storytelling.

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#62 Anjunaddict
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The story is pretty meh actually, definitely disappointing for a game that boasts story so much. There are times you just have to facepalm , check out this link for loads of plot holes in the game.
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#63 PAL360
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Mass Effect has the best story this gen imo

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#64 felipebo
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[QUOTE="felipebo"]

FF13 says hi.

Chemical_Viking

It does? How does an inanimate object manage that?

Final Fantasy was a bunch of whiny, miserable characters walking along a straight road for no apparent reason in the first 20 hours. That is exceptionally poor storytelling.

It's completely subjective, but I'm loving the story so far. HR's story, on the other hand, had me questioning if video games will ever deliver a story on par with movies or books (which I thought they one day would).

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#65 rzepak
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To me there are so many holes and the characters half the time act like such idiots that I cant really say the story is better than something like Bioshock, The Witcher or Mass Effect. If I were to include some fairly new point and clicks they would also be imo higher than Heavy Rain.

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#66 MangaJ
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FF13 says hi. Stands awkwardly by the door while everybody else pretends it's not there. Wonders why none of the other Final Fantasies return its calls. Goes to the bathroom and sobs quietly in a stall.

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#67 Pices
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FF13 says hi. Stands awkwardly by the door while everybody else pretends it's not there. Wonders why none of the other Final Fantasies return its calls. Goes to the bathroom and sobs quietly in a stall.

MangaJ
I heard the game is a drama show
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#68 Bread_or_Decide
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This thread makes me wanna play the game so I can know the story. I have a feeling Deadly Premonition has a far better story though but I won't know for sure until I finish both games.
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#69 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

just don't think about the story to hard otherwise it all falls apartmythrol

Like every story ever written.

That is a ridiculous statement.

How many stories have you read/seen/experienced? Because if the answer is "less than all of them" then you have no idea what you are on about.

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#70 Mr_Cumberdale
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It's definitely an enjoyable story. I wish more games had better stories. There are a couple of plotholes in the game though.
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#71 moose_knuckler
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Eh.....well I certainly disagree. I'd also place what you're stating on the gameplay to be honest which I found truly great. It's also kind of funny 'cause you can play the story out to something that actually makes more sense by playing less of the game. You'll probably be more satisfied with that then the jumbled charade by having all 4 characters survive.

Edit: By playing less of the game, I mean certain characters being killed throughout it.

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#72 Masculus
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Don't know about Heavy Rain, but i've heard it has plot holes the size of the Grand Canyon. I mean, if you can hear the thoughts of your characters and one of them is the killer, how long can they not show the character that is the killer thinking about killing?

Btw, best story this gen is Cryostasis.

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#73 88mphSlayer
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Don't know about Heavy Rain, but i've heard it has plot holes the size of the Grand Canyon. I mean, if you can hear the thoughts of your characters and one of them is the killer, how long can they not show the character that is the killer thinking about killing?

Btw, best story this gen is Cryostasis.

Masculus

+1 for mentioning Cryostasis

imagine how much better Heavy Rain would've been if they had told the player from the very beginning who the killer was and then went from there with the story? it would've been a lot more exciting if you got to play as the killer, instead of setting up some lame M. Night "it's a tweeeeest!" for 5-6 hours

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#74 Pices
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[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

Don't know about Heavy Rain, but i've heard it has plot holes the size of the Grand Canyon. I mean, if you can hear the thoughts of your characters and one of them is the killer, how long can they not show the character that is the killer thinking about killing?

Btw, best story this gen is Cryostasis.

+1 for mentioning Cryostasis

imagine how much better Heavy Rain would've been if they had told the player from the very beginning who the killer was and then went from there with the story? it would've been a lot more exciting if you got to play as the killer, instead of setting up some lame M. Night "it's a tweeeeest!" for 5-6 hours

The future DLC will have you play as the killer
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#75 Yandere
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[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

Don't know about Heavy Rain, but i've heard it has plot holes the size of the Grand Canyon. I mean, if you can hear the thoughts of your characters and one of them is the killer, how long can they not show the character that is the killer thinking about killing?

Btw, best story this gen is Cryostasis.

Pices

+1 for mentioning Cryostasis

imagine how much better Heavy Rain would've been if they had told the player from the very beginning who the killer was and then went from there with the story? it would've been a lot more exciting if you got to play as the killer, instead of setting up some lame M. Night "it's a tweeeeest!" for 5-6 hours

The future DLC will have you play as the killer

That's funny, because[spoiler] you already have [/spoiler]

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#76 dommeus
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[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="mythrol"]

TBH I was talking on consoles. As I don't have a gaming PC and can't access games like The Witcher - though I have heard that they're really good.

clone01

If they release the sequel on consoles then I highly recommend it, if you like RPG's that is.

weren't they talking about releasing the original title on the 360? what happened with that?

I believe it was canceled, but CD Projekt Red weren't developing it, it was outsourced to another developer. They did say recently that the tech for the sequel can be ported to 360/PS3, so it may be that they bring console versions out after the PC release.

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#77 FeedOnATreeFrog
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the story isn't necessarily the greatest, but what makes Heavy Rain the best story-driven game is how it lets the player interact with it.

Actions have consequence. When you fail, the characters die for good. It's the most intense videogame experience i've ever played.

Not because of its story, but of its 'game mechanics'.

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#78 alextherussian
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I would not classify it as best story ever. But I dont think I could honestly make that distinction about any game. To me it is definitely up there with Bioshock, Mass Effect and Braid. I thought the twist ranks right up there with would you kindly. . On a complete side note, the Witcher is outdone from story and atmosphere by Vampires the Masquerade.
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I heard there were holes.
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#80 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="alextherussian"]I would not classify it as best story ever. But I dont think I could honestly make that distinction about any game. To me it is definitely up there with Bioshock, Mass Effect and Braid. I thought the twist ranks right up there with would you kindly. . On a complete side note, the Witcher is outdone from story and atmosphere by Vampires the Masquerade.

Mass Effect at the top? That's funny. I think Mass Effect is cliched and dumb. Vampire: Bloodlines is very good though.
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I thoroughly agree with you , would of been one hell of a movie also.But the best part of it is what I consider to be an psychological horror factor , really , no game this gen , except for siren , made me feel kinda scared like this one , the taxidermist DLC also take this 'horror' I call to another level , it's truly a masterpiece IMO. :)

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#82 alextherussian
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Mass Effect at the top? That's funny. I think Mass Effect is cliched and dumb. Vampire: Bloodlines is very good though.

To each his own. Choosing between which characters live or die, doing loyalty missions and just some of the more epic scenes that bookend the games really make it an amazing experience to me. Vampires is just a diamond in the rough that people trampled all over because it was not polished out the gate. A real shame because the actual world, characters and events that you partake in are just awesome.
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I thoroughly agree with you , would of been one hell of a movie also.But the best part of it is what I consider to be an psychological horror factor , really , no game this gen , except for siren , made me feel kinda scared like this one , the taxidermist DLC also take this 'horror' I call to another level , it's truly a masterpiece IMO. :)

RoOodriGowW
How could it have been a movie? It would be destroyed by critics. It's lame by movie standards. It's poorly written. A lot of plotholes and cheap writing. Seriously guys video games are not about storylines.
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"Heavy Rain" isn't Odin Sphere.

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It was probably the most thriling and intense game I've ever played, plotholes and all. I loved Heavy Rain. The story was great, and that's even having the game spoiled for me before I even got a chance to play it.

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#86 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="MJPK"]

[QUOTE="AD216"] wow. the darkness? weakAD216

What was wrong with the darkness?

it aint terrible. just not nothin memorable

ಠ_ಠ

Seriously if you didn't find

[spoiler] the part where they shoot jenny right in front of you [/spoiler]

memorable, you have no soul.

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#87 RoOodriGowW
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[QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

I thoroughly agree with you , would of been one hell of a movie also.But the best part of it is what I consider to be an psychological horror factor , really , no game this gen , except for siren , made me feel kinda scared like this one , the taxidermist DLC also take this 'horror' I call to another level , it's truly a masterpiece IMO. :)

GeneralShowzer

How could it have been a movie? It would be destroyed by critics. It's lame by movie standards. It's poorly written. A lot of plotholes and cheap writing. Seriously guys video games are not about storylines.

As for the critics I really don't care it doesn't have to be a blockbuster , the story certainly isn't the best by movie standards , but then again I'm yet to see a suspense thriller involving serial killers getting anything higher than average (if you know please show me , I'd really like to know).The plotholes you are most likely talking about will be filled via DLC.

As for videogames and storylines some have pretty good ones, like uncharted.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

I thoroughly agree with you , would of been one hell of a movie also.But the best part of it is what I consider to be an psychological horror factor , really , no game this gen , except for siren , made me feel kinda scared like this one , the taxidermist DLC also take this 'horror' I call to another level , it's truly a masterpiece IMO. :)

RoOodriGowW

How could it have been a movie? It would be destroyed by critics. It's lame by movie standards. It's poorly written. A lot of plotholes and cheap writing. Seriously guys video games are not about storylines.

As for the critics I really don't care it doesn't have to be a blockbuster , the story certainly isn't the best by movie standards , but then again I'm yet to see a suspense thriller involving serial killers getting anything higher than average (if you know please show me , I'd really like to know).The plotholes you are most likely talking about will be filled via DLC.

As for videogames and storylines some have pretty good ones, like uncharted.

I can name you about 5-6 excelent serial killer movies at the top of my head, but i guess they are before your time so you wouldn't know about it.

And Uncharted as an example of good Storytelling? Try harder.

And do yo even know what a blockbuster is?

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[QUOTE="alextherussian"]I would not classify it as best story ever. But I dont think I could honestly make that distinction about any game. To me it is definitely up there with Bioshock, Mass Effect and Braid. I thought the twist ranks right up there with would you kindly. . On a complete side note, the Witcher is outdone from story and atmosphere by Vampires the Masquerade.

Deus Ex, Planescape Torment, KOTOR and The Witcher are probably my favourite stories in gaming so far (that I have played at least)
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It was a good game, but the story is basically every murder mystery cliche ever written all rolled up into one nice package. While I thoroughly enjoyed my first play through of the game, I am finding it really hard to play back through it for a second time. It could just be the lousy control system that makes me not want to do it, or it could just be the wealth of other games to play this year.

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[QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] How could it have been a movie? It would be destroyed by critics. It's lame by movie standards. It's poorly written. A lot of plotholes and cheap writing. Seriously guys video games are not about storylines.GeneralShowzer

As for the critics I really don't care it doesn't have to be a blockbuster , the story certainly isn't the best by movie standards , but then again I'm yet to see a suspense thriller involving serial killers getting anything higher than average (if you know please show me , I'd really like to know).The plotholes you are most likely talking about will be filled via DLC.

As for videogames and storylines some have pretty good ones, like uncharted.

I can name you about 5-6 excelent serial killer movies at the top of my head, but i guess they are before your time so you wouldn't know about it.

And Uncharted as an example of good Storytelling? Try harder.

And do yo even know what a blockbuster is?

Well I'm twenty , but if it is indeed before my time it just shows how the genre is lacking and how it shouldn't be much of a prbolem to try to contribute.Well it's subjective but I really find it's story very good a la indiana jones which is a critically acclaimed franchise.Not saying it should be a movie but since you asked me to try harder , Bioshock maybe?

Yes of course I do , it's an entertainment media rental store , lol joking , it is a very successful film I belive?

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#92 shinrabanshou
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The story doesn't hold a candle to those from movies, but for a game it's pretty good. Yes it has plot holes, most games have plot holes.

Few games have managed to make me as emotionally invested in the characters, as Heavy Rain did though, which I would consider an achievement.

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#93 Deathtransit
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Great thread to bring out the haters and nitpickers. This game, GTA4, ME, and maybe AC2 and MGS4 are the best for story IMO, though Kojima needs an editor. Oh, and Brutal Legend!
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#94 Deathtransit
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It was probably the most thriling and intense game I've ever played, plotholes and all. I loved Heavy Rain. The story was great, and that's even having the game spoiled for me before I even got a chance to play it.

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Haha, yeah some parts were so intense (partly due to the awesome control scheme), I had to laugh in amazement.
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#95 GeneralShowzer
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A blockbuster is simply a movie that makes a lot of money, it has nothing to do with critical acclaim. As for serial killer movies well, here are some newer ones i thought off Seven Zodiac Silence of the Lambs Red Dragon Memento Insomnia Dirty Harry (lol) They are all above average, not as you claimed. As a poster mentioned above Heavy Rain is one big cliche. A poorly written one at that. As for Bioshock i mean the setting is cool, big daddies, little sisters, Andrew Ryan, but i don't try to think about it real hard, it doesn't make much sense. Everyone talks about that twist in the middle, but the story wasn't that well. Yeah clubbing Andrew Ryan was probably one of the best moments but that's all it has. So it's decent. I'm just saying that games aren't about storylines they are about GAMEplay.
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A blockbuster is simply a movie that makes a lot of money, it has nothing to do with critical acclaim. As for serial killer movies well, here are some newer ones i thought off Seven Zodiac Silence of the Lambs Red Dragon Memento Insomnia Dirty Harry (lol) They are all above average, not as you claimed. As a poster mentioned above Heavy Rain is one big cliche. A poorly written one at that. As for Bioshock i mean the setting is cool, big daddies, little sisters, Andrew Ryan, but i don't try to think about it real hard, it doesn't make much sense. Everyone talks about that twist in the middle, but the story wasn't that well. Yeah clubbing Andrew Ryan was probably one of the best moments but that's all it has. So it's decent. I'm just saying that games aren't about storylines they are about GAMEplay.GeneralShowzer

Lol my memory is failing on me how could I forget those , I've watched seven , zodiac , silence of the lambs and red dragon indeed awesome movies, gotta check the other three ones out though.And yeah I agree with you games are about gameplay , and I , too , don't spend much time thinking about their stories, it happened with heavy rain cause, you know, it's a game you can play upside down without having any problem in succeeding ,it requires relatively little to no effort :?

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#97 Solid_Tango
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I agree with the TC, the story was epic and it got me engaged til the very last minute, loved it!
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i garantee you that heavyrain will sweep every best story awards. heavyrain has the best story not just this gen but of all times

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#99 GeneralShowzer
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i garantee you that heavyrain will sweep every best story awards. heavyrain has the best story not just this gen but of all times

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[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="alextherussian"]I would not classify it as best story ever. But I dont think I could honestly make that distinction about any game. To me it is definitely up there with Bioshock, Mass Effect and Braid. I thought the twist ranks right up there with would you kindly. . On a complete side note, the Witcher is outdone from story and atmosphere by Vampires the Masquerade.

Deus Ex, Planescape Torment, KOTOR and The Witcher are probably my favourite stories in gaming so far (that I have played at least)

I fully, 100% agree with your choices, I just thought the point was to keep it to this generation and on consoles as the TC previously mentioned. The Vampire stuff I just mentioned because the game gets absolutely no love.