Hermits have no worthy exclusives so they hide behind the MAC

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

lets say that the MAC isn't a PC, what exactly does that prove? Starcraft still isn't on consoles so it's not a reason to get a console, it's a reason to get a Mac (Although i still wouldn't recommend one, just stick with Windows)

Davekeeh

I guess that settles it. Pretty sad seeing as the PC has been out for such a long time yet it still gets beaten by consoles when it comes to exclusives.

So if you don't wanna miss out on all the great exclusives out there, you really need to go buy a console because you ain't getting any on the PC.

Davekeeh

So **** sad that you guys come here to debate about which platform is the best, instead of just being happy with your system of choice and playing the games on it.

Even sadder that people create threads like this. Most likely people that create threads like this are insecure in their own system of choice..

Look at this picture, it's still Gamespot.

/endofthread.

it's not piracy :|

you can buy a wii game and play it on PC legally :|

rilpas

AFAIK that depends on where you are, BUT even if your local laws allow that, you still need to own both the game and the console.

Why? Well, part of the software required to run games on a console is located in the console itself, and to legally make or use a backup of that you must own the console.

Now, what's herms' next claim? They DO own the consoles and the games but run emulators because they just love 1080p :lol:

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

That is NOTtrue. You can only run OSX legally without an Apple motherboard, which Apple does not sell. In every other context, Windows PCs, Linux PCs, and Mac PCs are different. Fact of life, end of story.

StormyJoe

Don't think it's illegal...

But I do know it's possible.

In any case,MAC is a PC,and this whole argument is useless.

Yes it is. The EULA for OSX clearly states that you are only allowed to run it on Apple hardware. Mac PCs and Windows PCs are different in every context outside of SW. So, why should SW be different?

Fine,didn't know that,and I honestly find it suprising since the "Hackintosh" community is fairly large,and I never heard of any large legal battles.

In any case,MAC is ultimately a PC,so games availible on the Windows and MAC OS are PC exclusive...

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Incorrect...

All of the listed OS can work on the same hardware...

No matter what OS you use,the platform remains a "PC",so nothing wrong with using the term.

Then there is also dual boot,where you run more than one OS on a single PC...

rilpas

That is NOTtrue. You can only run OSX legally without an Apple motherboard, which Apple does not sell. In every other context, Windows PCs, Linux PCs, and Mac PCs are different. Fact of life, end of story.

how are they different if I can install linux and and mac on PCs?

how are they different if I can install all three OS' on macs?

are you saying MACs are not personal computers?

BTW I don't use the hackintosh for gaming its mainly for design stuff.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Don't think it's illegal...

But I do know it's possible.

In any case,MAC is a PC,and this whole argument is useless.

Rocker6

Yes it is. The EULA for OSX clearly states that you are only allowed to run it on Apple hardware. Mac PCs and Windows PCs are different in every context outside of SW. So, why should SW be different?

Fine,didn't know that,and I honestly find it suprising since the "Hackintosh" community is fairly large,and I never heard of any large legal battles.

In any case,MAC is ultimately a PC,so games availible on the Windows and MAC OS are PC exclusive...

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Don't think it's illegal...

But I do know it's possible.

In any case,MAC is a PC,and this whole argument is useless.

Rocker6

Yes it is. The EULA for OSX clearly states that you are only allowed to run it on Apple hardware. Mac PCs and Windows PCs are different in every context outside of SW. So, why should SW be different?

Fine,didn't know that,and I honestly find it suprising since the "Hackintosh" community is fairly large,and I never heard of any large legal battles.

In any case,MAC is ultimately a PC,so games availible on the Windows and MAC OS are PC exclusive...

then why do devs port games from PC to mac or vice versa? is it because the devs are too dumb to realize its the same platform and no port is needed?

or is a port needed because they are different platforms?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

Yes it is. The EULA for OSX clearly states that you are only allowed to run it on Apple hardware. Mac PCs and Windows PCs are different in every context outside of SW. So, why should SW be different?

BeardMaster

Fine,didn't know that,and I honestly find it suprising since the "Hackintosh" community is fairly large,and I never heard of any large legal battles.

In any case,MAC is ultimately a PC,so games availible on the Windows and MAC OS are PC exclusive...

then why do devs port games from PC to mac or vice versa? is it because the devs are too dumb to realize its the same platform and no port is needed?

or is a port needed because they are different platforms?

MAC is a PC (personal computer).

"The Macintosh or Mac, is a series of personal computers (PCs) designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc."

Source: Wiki

A game availible on both Windows OS and OSX is a PC exclusive,end of story.

I tire of this debate...

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

That is NOTtrue. You can only run OSX legally without an Apple motherboard, which Apple does not sell. In every other context, Windows PCs, Linux PCs, and Mac PCs are different. Fact of life, end of story.

inb4uall

how are they different if I can install linux and and mac on PCs?

how are they different if I can install all three OS' on macs?

are you saying MACs are not personal computers?

BTW I don't use the hackintosh for gaming its mainly for design stuff.

so run windows on a mac

problem solved

now explain to me again how is it that macs are not PCs

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Fine,didn't know that,and I honestly find it suprising since the "Hackintosh" community is fairly large,and I never heard of any large legal battles.

In any case,MAC is ultimately a PC,so games availible on the Windows and MAC OS are PC exclusive...

Rocker6

then why do devs port games from PC to mac or vice versa? is it because the devs are too dumb to realize its the same platform and no port is needed?

or is a port needed because they are different platforms?

MAC is a PC (personal computer).

"The Macintosh or Mac, is a series of personal computers (PCs) designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc."

Source: Wiki

A game availible on both Windows OS and OSX is a PC exclusive,end of story.

I tire of this debate...

so money and resources are spent on the port... why? why port a PC game to a PC? you didnt explain that part.

AFAIK that depends on where you are, BUT even if your local laws allow that, you still need to own both the game and the console.

Why? Well, part of the software required to run games on a console is located in the console itself, and to legally make or use a backup of that you must own the console.

Now, what's herms' next claim? They DO own the consoles and the games but run emulators because they just love 1080p :lol:

KiZZo1

The grey area that makes most people confused about emulation, is if it's legal to make a backup copy of your purchased game on your PC (a ROM or a ISO disk), and playing that backup copy. That's were in some contries it's illegal, wile in others it is legal. And obviously pirating the game off the net is illegal everywere.

Now purchasing the game, and playing that very game disk or cartrige trough a emulator is fully legal, i don't know what kind of bat sh*t crazy law wouldn't allow that. As far as i know, that's legal everywere.

Some emulators don't require the software (BIOS) to run. And the ones that do, it's legal in most countries to dump your own bios from your purchased console.

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

how are they different if I can install linux and and mac on PCs?

how are they different if I can install all three OS' on macs?

are you saying MACs are not personal computers?

rilpas

BTW I don't use the hackintosh for gaming its mainly for design stuff.

so run windows on a mac

problem solved

now explain to me again how is it that macs are not PCs

ever heard of a company port a game from PC to PC? ever heard of a company port a game from PC to mac?

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

That is NOTtrue. You can only run OSX legally without an Apple motherboard, which Apple does not sell. In every other context, Windows PCs, Linux PCs, and Mac PCs are different. Fact of life, end of story.

BeardMaster

how are they different if I can install linux and and mac on PCs?

how are they different if I can install all three OS' on macs?

are you saying MACs are not personal computers?

you can also emulate wii games on PC

what im saying is, a developer never decided to port a game to mac... because its the same as PC and they already have a PC version

they port the game to mac, because its a different platform.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"] Number one Not all PC's WILL run MAC os the ones that do are called hackintoshes. I wasn't aware that it was illegal but my uncle works at apple in CA and he help me set mine up. So ether he knew about it and didn't think it was a big deal (that could easily be the case) or its not illegal to run on something besides a Apple mother board. Also you CAN get a hold of Apple mother boards. I went into a apple genius store and order one because the one in our faily computer (a mac) wasn't working correctly.

BTW I don't use the hackintosh for gaming its mainly for design stuff.

BeardMaster

so run windows on a mac

problem solved

now explain to me again how is it that macs are not PCs

ever heard of a company port a game from PC to PC? ever heard of a company port a game from PC to mac?

so you're saying an operating system is a computer?

that's new

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

how are they different if I can install linux and and mac on PCs?

how are they different if I can install all three OS' on macs?

are you saying MACs are not personal computers?

MBirdy88

you can also emulate wii games on PC

what im saying is, a developer never decided to port a game to mac... because its the same as PC and they already have a PC version

they port the game to mac, because its a different platform.

so in other words, macs are personal computers? cool I guess that means they stay exclusive

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

then why do devs port games from PC to mac or vice versa? is it because the devs are too dumb to realize its the same platform and no port is needed?

or is a port needed because they are different platforms?

BeardMaster

MAC is a PC (personal computer).

"The Macintosh or Mac, is a series of personal computers (PCs) designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc."

Source: Wiki

A game availible on both Windows OS and OSX is a PC exclusive,end of story.

I tire of this debate...

so money and resources are spent on the port... why? why port a PC game to a PC? you didnt explain that part.

Because there are differences in the OS...

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

how are they different if I can install linux and and mac on PCs?

how are they different if I can install all three OS' on macs?

are you saying MACs are not personal computers?

MBirdy88

you can also emulate wii games on PC

what im saying is, a developer never decided to port a game to mac... because its the same as PC and they already have a PC version

they port the game to mac, because its a different platform.

a system is software.

how many times have devs ported a ps3 game to ps3?

or a 360 game to 360?

seems like PC is the only platform that devs will invest money in, to make a port... for the same platform. Which if i dint know any better, would make me think devs believe mac and PC arent the same platform.

..so you guys are doing this again? "sigh"

..so you guys are doing this again? "sigh"

Chris_Williams

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

how are they different if I can install linux and and mac on PCs?

how are they different if I can install all three OS' on macs?

are you saying MACs are not personal computers?

rilpas

BTW I don't use the hackintosh for gaming its mainly for design stuff.

so run windows on a mac

problem solved

now explain to me again how is it that macs are not PCs

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

you can also emulate wii games on PC

what im saying is, a developer never decided to port a game to mac... because its the same as PC and they already have a PC version

they port the game to mac, because its a different platform.

BeardMaster

a system is software.

how many times have devs ported a ps3 game to ps3?

or a 360 game to 360?

seems like PC is the only platform that devs will invest money in, to make a port... for the same platform.

a system is software.

how many times have devs ported a ps3 game to ps3?

or a 360 game to 360?

seems like PC is the only platform that devs will invest money in, to make a port... for the same platform. Which if i dint know any better, would make me think devs believe mac and PC arent the same platform.

BeardMaster

That's because a PC is a open-ended platform with a multitude of OSs to choose from, it's the same platform, devs believe that aswell because it's common sense, you crazy fool.

The 360 is completely different hardware wise from a PS3.

Also I'm pretty sure that haskintoshes aren't illegal simply because the university of Illinois runs parrallels on both their windows based PCs and Their MAC based PCs:|

Well, it's likely because there is no room to hide behind the PC because of the herd of cows that already hide there. :twisted:

If the MAC and PC are one then explain this:

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
If the MAC and PC are one then explain this:

AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] No, its a different operating system on the same platform. its a simple case of compatibility as is any other part of a computers specs. A platform is both hardware and software combined to make the finished product.MBirdy88

a system is software.

how many times have devs ported a ps3 game to ps3?

or a 360 game to 360?

seems like PC is the only platform that devs will invest money in, to make a port... for the same platform.

look i dont want to insult you, but you are completely wrong.

who do you thin designed console hardware? hint: its PC manufacturers.

consoles are perfectly capable of running a windows or mac OS.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

..so you guys are doing this again? "sigh"

rilpas

or a 360 game to 360

BeardMaster

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

a system is software.

how many times have devs ported a ps3 game to ps3?

or a 360 game to 360?

seems like PC is the only platform that devs will invest money in, to make a port... for the same platform.

BeardMaster

look i dont want to insult you, but you are completely wrong.

who do you thin designed console hardware? hint: its PC manufacturers.

consoles are perfectly capable of running a windows or mac OS.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

or a 360 game to 360

AdrianWerner

ive heard hermits speak of you in kind regard.

and you think putting a region lock on software is the same as porting?

if this is the cream of the crop, i think the system war is over.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

a system is software.

how many times have devs ported a ps3 game to ps3?

or a 360 game to 360?

seems like PC is the only platform that devs will invest money in, to make a port... for the same platform.

BeardMaster

look i dont want to insult you, but you are completely wrong.

who do you thin designed console hardware? hint: its PC manufacturers.

consoles are perfectly capable of running a windows or mac OS.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Omg how dull can you get? a 360 and PS3 don't even run on similar architecture like a Mac/Wintel PC does.... both their hardware and software is completely different.... not just spec wise. You realise that all developers have to develope drivers and compatibility with both Intel and AMD? are we going to start calling that multiplatform aswell like the complete fool you are being? its easy to troll and lump this up similar to consoles, when in reality it quite clearly isn't. fact of the matter, at the end of the day I have ONE PC, that has 4 seperate OPERATING SYSTEMS on it. You have no comeback for that, because there isn't one. stop riding the troll bandwagon, its pathetic.inb4uall

look i dont want to insult you, but you are completely wrong.

who do you thin designed console hardware? hint: its PC manufacturers.

consoles are perfectly capable of running a windows or mac OS.

you think your console cant run windows xp? im pretty sure even the wii could pull that feat off.

[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

..so you guys are doing this again? "sigh"

Chris_Williams

and you think putting a region lock on software is the same as porting

BeardMaster

Fact is, OSX and Windows are just OS, both are used on computers. And you can install both OSes on same the PC.

Now, if somebody would claim a game to be "Windows exclusive"...that's a whole different thing. But PC exclusive? Both Windows computers, Linux computers and Mac computers are all PCs, so your logic is invalid. Systems are determined by hardware and what is inside Mac is the same thing there's in Dells and it ran run the same software.

Okay.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Fine,didn't know that,and I honestly find it suprising since the "Hackintosh" community is fairly large,and I never heard of any large legal battles.

In any case,MAC is ultimately a PC,so games availible on the Windows and MAC OS are PC exclusive...

Rocker6

then why do devs port games from PC to mac or vice versa? is it because the devs are too dumb to realize its the same platform and no port is needed?

or is a port needed because they are different platforms?

MAC is a PC (personal computer).

"The Macintosh or Mac, is a series of personal computers (PCs) designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc."

Source: Wiki

A game availible on both Windows OS and OSX is a PC exclusive,end of story.

I tire of this debate...

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="rilpas"] you should be happy, isn't system Wars the only exclusive the PS3 has for 2012?rilpas

Resistance 3

Ratchet and Clank HD Collection

Batman: Arkham City

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Playstation All Stars Battle Royale

Grand Theft Auto V

Portal 2

Saints Row the Third

Outland

Vanquish

Ratchet and Clank Frontal Assault

Journey

Little Big Planet Karting

Dark Souls

Call of Duty Black Ops 2

God of War ascension

Sly cooper Collection

Sly Copper 4

Demon Souls

Assassins Creed 3

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] good thing I have a capable pc and a 360 to get me through these hard timesinb4uall

Resistance 3

Ratchet and Clank HD Collection

Batman: Arkham City

Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Playstation All Stars Battle Royale

Grand Theft Auto V

Portal 2

Saints Row the Third

Outland

Vanquish

Ratchet and Clank Frontal Assault

Journey

Little Big Planet Karting

Portal 1

Dark Souls

Call of Duty Black Ops 2

God of War ascension

Sly cooper Collection

Sly Copper 4

Demon Souls

Assassins Creed 3

wow, so many multiplats

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

and you think putting a region lock on software is the same as porting

AdrianWerner

Fact is, OSX and Windows are just OS, both are used on computers. And you can install both OSes on same the PC.

Now, if somebody would claim a game to be "Windows exclusive"...that's a whole different thing. But PC exclusive? Both Windows computers, Linux computers and Mac computers are all PCs, so your logic is invalid. Systems are determined by hardware and what is inside Mac is the same thing there's in Dells and it ran run the same software.

so you typed all that with a straight face? commendable. because you obviously dont have a clue what yur talking about. So i have a gamebox in front of me that says PC CD, you think i can load this up on a mac then? since they are the same thing