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#51 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="naval"]I am a hermit, but I too think crysis is being way overhyped ... whenever new crysis pics comes out there would be 3-4 new threads detailing how great it looks and so on. for me, the problem is not the if it flop then there would be massive ownage but its just that other games like witcher are not getting their share of hype. x_boyfriend

When we post something about other games besides Crysis, they die quickly or have people say "OMG WHAT GAME IS THAT IT LOOKZ LIKE CRAP." The only PC game the people in SW will comment on is Crysis.

Exactly.

Hmm.

So according to that logic... Crysis is getting all this hype because... that's the only game console fanboys acknowledge? That's almost frightening.

But yeah...

Imagine posting an SC2 pic for screenshots. Damn. We'd be mobbed. And for no logical reason other than "teh graphix".

According to Console fanboys we have no games coming this year bar Crysis ... its quite sad really, that they need mass marketing and commercials to discover great games.

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#52 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="naval"]I am a hermit, but I too think crysis is being way overhyped ... whenever new crysis pics comes out there would be 3-4 new threads detailing how great it looks and so on. for me, the problem is not the if it flop then there would be massive ownage but its just that other games like witcher are not getting their share of hype. x_boyfriend

When we post something about other games besides Crysis, they die quickly or have people say "OMG WHAT GAME IS THAT IT LOOKZ LIKE CRAP." The only PC game the people in SW will comment on is Crysis.

Exactly.

Hmm.

So according to that logic... Crysis is getting all this hype because... that's the only game console fanboys acknowledge? That's almost frightening.

But yeah...

Imagine posting an SC2 pic for screenshots. Damn. We'd be mobbed. And for no logical reason other than "teh graphix".

I would not say that it is the only reason for the hype, but I do consider it to be the main reason that it is the most talked about PC game here in System Wars.
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#53 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="naval"]I am a hermit, but I too think crysis is being way overhyped ... whenever new crysis pics comes out there would be 3-4 new threads detailing how great it looks and so on. for me, the problem is not the if it flop then there would be massive ownage but its just that other games like witcher are not getting their share of hype. x_boyfriend

When we post something about other games besides Crysis, they die quickly or have people say "OMG WHAT GAME IS THAT IT LOOKZ LIKE CRAP." The only PC game the people in SW will comment on is Crysis.

LOL thats true ... even after so many crysis threads are there, new ones still reach so many pages

Yeah. I never thought gamers were so fond of foliage. I mean, how many screenshots can you have of foliage?

its about the same as the number of foliage threads for uncharted. LOOK TREES! OMG.

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#54 StephenHu
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People are hyping it 9.5, I love the game to death and was extremely anxious for the release of the game, but quite honestly, the PC has huge expectations and standards so I think the game will realistically get a 9.0
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#55 Meu2k7
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People are hyping it 9.5, I love the game to death and was extremely anxious for the release of the game, but quite honestly, the PC has huge expectations and standards so I think the game will realistically get a 9.0StephenHu

Agreed.

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Im dont know now. With the rating system it may get 9.5 but im hyping it 9.0 which is good enough for me.
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#57 Spartan070
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People are hyping it 9.5, I love the game to death and was extremely anxious for the release of the game, but quite honestly, the PC has huge expectations and standards so I think the game will realistically get a 9.0StephenHu

I thought Crysis was supposed to be "reinventing" the standards? If any game can overcome such high standards, I thought Crysis could.

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#58 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="StephenHu"]People are hyping it 9.5, I love the game to death and was extremely anxious for the release of the game, but quite honestly, the PC has huge expectations and standards so I think the game will realistically get a 9.0Spartan070

I thought Crysis was supposed to be "reinventing" the standards? If any game can overcome such high standards, I thought Crysis could.

We've arleady gone over this: Me: Spartan, do you think that Unreal Tournament is the greatest PC game ever? Spartan: No. Me: Then why do you think its the highest scoring game, despite the other games pushing the standards? *Silence*
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#59 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="StephenHu"]People are hyping it 9.5, I love the game to death and was extremely anxious for the release of the game, but quite honestly, the PC has huge expectations and standards so I think the game will realistically get a 9.0Vandalvideo

I thought Crysis was supposed to be "reinventing" the standards? If any game can overcome such high standards, I thought Crysis could.

We've arleady gone over this: Me: Spartan, do you think that Unreal Tournament is the greatest PC game ever? Spartan: No. Me: Then why do you think its the highest scoring game, despite the other games pushing the standards? *Silence*

lol...I was not silenced. You just rejected my proposal. I recall this:

Me: Crysis is the biggest FPS leap since Half-Life 2, therefore it should push some standards. If Crysis isn't capable of overcoming high standards, then what's all the big whoop about?

You: *compromise*

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#60 Vandalvideo
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Me: Crysis is the biggest FPS leap since Half-Life 2, therefore it should push some standards. If Crysis isn't capable of overcoming high standards, then what's all the big whoop about?You: *compromise*Spartan070
Thats not how I remember it. Look, I illustrated that games that are better than their ancestors are consistantly scoring less, despite pushing the standards. Why? Because thats how the PC works. Even if Crysis pushed the standards, by history it won't score that high.
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[QUOTE="StephenHu"]People are hyping it 9.5, I love the game to death and was extremely anxious for the release of the game, but quite honestly, the PC has huge expectations and standards so I think the game will realistically get a 9.0Spartan070

I thought Crysis was supposed to be "reinventing" the standards? If any game can overcome such high standards, I thought Crysis could.

Well according to a lot of console people the gameplay is mediocre. How can it set high standards if it is mediocre? The fact that console players think that it is mediocre only proves that their standards are set way too high.
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No. The game is revolutionizing FPSs as we know it.
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#63 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="StephenHu"]People are hyping it 9.5, I love the game to death and was extremely anxious for the release of the game, but quite honestly, the PC has huge expectations and standards so I think the game will realistically get a 9.0smokeydabear076

I thought Crysis was supposed to be "reinventing" the standards? If any game can overcome such high standards, I thought Crysis could.

Well according to a lot of console people the gameplay is mediocre. How can it set high standards if it is mediocre? The fact that console players think that it is mediocre only proves that their standards are set way too high.

Yes many console players feel that way but in the literal terms of GS scoring this game, I don't see how any past or current PC standards can't be smashed by the maelstrom we know as Crysis. Good attempted diversion though.:P
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#64 Spartan070
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To add to my last post, just look at the post above that one.
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#65 smokeydabear076
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To add to my last post, just look at the post above that one.Spartan070
Half-life 2 was said to be revolutionary yet look what it got. Plenty of games here on GS are revolutionary yet do not receive particularly high scores.
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Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game.
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Crysis wont raise the standards of all FPS games because there are too many different type of FPS games.

Halo 1 mixed UT & Tribes, making a solid game, so it got a ridiculous score ok thats fine.

Halo 2? I dont see what this did , but It boosted the existance of Console FPS games and its multiplayer so it got 9.4.

Halo 3... does nothing major but return to its roots of Halo 1, and adds some over-hyped "look at me I can take pictures of myself or record a battle" features ... if it was by the old system it would be 9.0-9.2 more than likely.

Crysis, like Halo 1 just merges loads of elements togther (Multiplayer = Counter-strike meets Battlefield meets Matrix? :P).

Expanded on every inch of AI and how we play Vehichles (Gas tank has limited fuel) Air Vehicles dont automatically blow up when you crash, but is determined by other things ect ect.

Sims-like AI.

Could score high, or will more likely be stuck at 9.0.

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For anyone that thinks that the PC doesn't have high standards, go read GS's "About Our Rating System" page. It's a fact.
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#69 smokeydabear076
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Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. Gnr_Helsing
Omg they made the box!
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Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. Gnr_Helsing

If I recall all EA has done is the Publishing and the Music/sound (which is all very good).

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Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. Gnr_Helsing

They are only publishing it.....

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Yeah. I never thought gamers were so fond of foliage. I mean, how many screenshots can you have of foliage?

marklarmer

its about the same as the number of foliage threads for uncharted. LOOK TREES! OMG.

Haha, touche. But I hardly think the hype around Uncharted even comes within a league of the hype around Crysis.

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]To add to my last post, just look at the post above that one.smokeydabear076
Half-life 2 was said to be revolutionary yet look what it got. Plenty of games here on GS are revolutionary yet do not receive particularly high scores.

It also had paltry MP at best.
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[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. trix5817

They are only publishing it.....

Hey their still apart in making the game. EA is known to bring good companies down with them...

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#75 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. Gnr_Helsing

They are only publishing it.....

Hey their still apart in making the game. EA is known to bring good companies down with them...

Yea but somehow I very much doubt Microsoft/Nvidia/Intel would allow that to happen.

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#76 trix5817
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[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. Gnr_Helsing

They are only publishing it.....

Hey their still apart in making the game. EA is known to bring good companies down with them...

They're going to bring Crytek down because they are helping with the sound/music? Yeahhhhhhh.....

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#77 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]To add to my last post, just look at the post above that one.Spartan070
Half-life 2 was said to be revolutionary yet look what it got. Plenty of games here on GS are revolutionary yet do not receive particularly high scores.

It also had paltry MP at best.

So? It did not need awesome multiplayer to be considered revolutionary whats your point? Counterstrike source was fine anyway.
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[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. trix5817

They are only publishing it.....

Hey their still apart in making the game. EA is known to bring good companies down with them...

They're going to bring Crytek down because they are helping with the sound/music? Yeahhhhhhh.....

If I even hear a shred of hiphop on the soundtrack, i'm pressing charges.

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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. x_boyfriend

They are only publishing it.....

Hey their still apart in making the game. EA is known to bring good companies down with them...

They're going to bring Crytek down because they are helping with the sound/music? Yeahhhhhhh.....

If I even hear a shred of a hiphop on the soundtrack, i'm pressing charges.

Aint that the truth.

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]To add to my last post, just look at the post above that one.smokeydabear076
Half-life 2 was said to be revolutionary yet look what it got. Plenty of games here on GS are revolutionary yet do not receive particularly high scores.

It also had paltry MP at best.

So? It did not need awesome multiplayer to be consider revolutionary whats your point? Counterstrike source was fine anyway.

I'm not talking revolutionary or multiplayer mods that are not reviewed as a part of the game, I'm talking about a big part of the reason it got the score it did: paltry MP.
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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]Don't forget EA is apart in the making of this game. x_boyfriend

They are only publishing it.....

Hey their still apart in making the game. EA is known to bring good companies down with them...

They're going to bring Crytek down because they are helping with the sound/music? Yeahhhhhhh.....

If I even hear a shred of a hiphop on the soundtrack, i'm pressing charges.

hahaha

Even if they did want to, Crytek wouldn't let them.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]To add to my last post, just look at the post above that one.Spartan070
Half-life 2 was said to be revolutionary yet look what it got. Plenty of games here on GS are revolutionary yet do not receive particularly high scores.

It also had paltry MP at best.

So? It did not need awesome multiplayer to be consider revolutionary whats your point? Counterstrike source was fine anyway.

I'm not talking revolutionary or multiplayer mods that are not reviewed as a part of the game, I'm talking about a big part of the reason it got the score it did: paltry MP.

Because GeoW had such an amazing MP........yet it got a 9.6.

Are you trying to argue that PC games don't have standards? It's a fact. Go look at GS's page about it.

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What we've seen of Doom 3's single-player, so far, seems extremely impressive. Its graphics are nothing short of amazing, and the game sounds fantastic as well. What's more, while Doom 3 might have previously seemed like a rather straightforward shooter, it actually seems to have a number of interesting additional gameplay elements that directly affect the game. We earnestly hope that the rest of the single-player game can be as consistently atmospheric, good-looking, and as exciting as what we've seen so far.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/news.html?sid=6075567&page=2

If you read the preview of Doom 3 here, it sounds a lot like how people describe Crysis in excitement. GameSpot are trying to be objective in the preview whilst describing what they saw, but you can tell they were very impressed by it. And hermits would quote certain bits of information and laugh at console boys faces when they couldn't answer. They would also just laugh at Halo 2 because all there was, was an "unimpressive 8 minute demonstration of no in-game gameplay (E3 2004)"

For me, this feels like the Doom 3 of 2007. Graphics first, everything second. This hype is not like Half Life 2's. In fact, Half Life 2's graphics hype started coming after with the flexibility of the Source Engine and stuff. Half Life 2's hype solely came from game play (single player)and A.I. It delivered the former, but failed the latter.

I was watching the new Crysis video with hermits drooling over the gun play. Over what? Graphics? Gentlemen, I didn't see anything that I haven't seen before in that video. That real time modding stuff -- that's just one gun instead of having to carry 5. That's not going to change FPSs forever. It's more of a gimmick to me. Someone was talking about how the missile launcher was extremely cool. I thought it would be an interesting take on it but, I was wrong. He was talking about how sweet looking it was.

The only thing I'm hyped for is the zero G environment since I love sci fi stuff, but even then the story seems a little iffy. So yeah, personally, I think this game is getting too much hype.

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Are the lemmings going to far with Halo hype? are Cows going to far with Killzone 2? Sheep going to far with Mario?
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What we've seen of Doom 3's single-player, so far, seems extremely impressive. Its graphics are nothing short of amazing, and the game sounds fantastic as well. What's more, while Doom 3 might have previously seemed like a rather straightforward shooter, it actually seems to have a number of interesting additional gameplay elements that directly affect the game. We earnestly hope that the rest of the single-player game can be as consistently atmospheric, good-looking, and as exciting as what we've seen so far.FrozenLiquid

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/news.html?sid=6075567&page=2

If you read the preview of Doom 3 here, it sounds a lot like how people describe Crysis in excitement. GameSpot are trying to be objective in the preview whilst describing what they saw, but you can tell they were very impressed by it. And hermits would quote certain bits of information and laugh at console boys faces when they couldn't answer. They would also just laugh at Halo 2 because all there was, was an "unimpressive 8 minute demonstration of no in-game gameplay (E3 2004)"

For me, this feels like the Doom 3 of 2007. Graphics first, everything second. This hype is not like Half Life 2's. In fact, Half Life 2's graphics hype started coming after with the flexibility of the Source Engine and stuff. Half Life 2's hype solely came from game play (single player)and A.I. It delivered the former, but failed the latter.

I was watching the new Crysis video with hermits drooling over the gun play. Over what? Graphics? Gentlemen, I didn't see anything that I haven't seen before in that video. That real time modding stuff -- that's just one gun instead of having to carry 5. That's not going to change FPSs forever. It's more of a gimmick to me. Someone was talking about how the missile launcher was extremely cool. I thought it would be an interesting take on it but, I was wrong. He was talking about how sweet looking it was.

The only thing I'm hyped for is the zero G environment since I love sci fi stuff, but even then the story seems a little iffy. So yeah, personally, I think this game is getting too much hype.

GS tries to describe every preview of a game in a positive manner. Hell, they even said good things about Hour of Victory in the previews, which ended up getting a 2.0. How anyone can think Crysis is going to anything like Doom3 was at the time is beyond me. Id never stated that they wanted to push FPS's forward and create something revolutionary, they just wanted to remake Doom. Simple as that. What is Halo3 doing that's ground breaking? What's Bioshock doing that's groundbreaking? What's MGS4 doing that's ground breaking? What's Uncharted doing that's ground breaking? What about Mass Effect? What about any game coming out? What about GeoW? None seem to be "ground breaking". Yet they most likley will be pretty damn good games.

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People really love to knock EA but quite honestly their entire business model allows for certain divisions to focus on delivering the highest possible quality in their titles. You have to ignore those yearly updates on a lot of their games and look for the good stuff.

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What we've seen of Doom 3's single-player, so far, seems extremely impressive. Its graphics are nothing short of amazing, and the game sounds fantastic as well. What's more, while Doom 3 might have previously seemed like a rather straightforward shooter, it actually seems to have a number of interesting additional gameplay elements that directly affect the game. We earnestly hope that the rest of the single-player game can be as consistently atmospheric, good-looking, and as exciting as what we've seen so far.trix5817

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/news.html?sid=6075567&page=2

If you read the preview of Doom 3 here, it sounds a lot like how people describe Crysis in excitement. GameSpot are trying to be objective in the preview whilst describing what they saw, but you can tell they were very impressed by it. And hermits would quote certain bits of information and laugh at console boys faces when they couldn't answer. They would also just laugh at Halo 2 because all there was, was an "unimpressive 8 minute demonstration of no in-game gameplay (E3 2004)"

For me, this feels like the Doom 3 of 2007. Graphics first, everything second. This hype is not like Half Life 2's. In fact, Half Life 2's graphics hype started coming after with the flexibility of the Source Engine and stuff. Half Life 2's hype solely came from game play (single player)and A.I. It delivered the former, but failed the latter.

I was watching the new Crysis video with hermits drooling over the gun play. Over what? Graphics? Gentlemen, I didn't see anything that I haven't seen before in that video. That real time modding stuff -- that's just one gun instead of having to carry 5. That's not going to change FPSs forever. It's more of a gimmick to me. Someone was talking about how the missile launcher was extremely cool. I thought it would be an interesting take on it but, I was wrong. He was talking about how sweet looking it was.

The only thing I'm hyped for is the zero G environment since I love sci fi stuff, but even then the story seems a little iffy. So yeah, personally, I think this game is getting too much hype.

GS tries to describe every preview of a game in a positive manner. Hell, they even said good things about Hour of Victory in the previews, which ended up getting a 2.0. How anyone can think Crysis is going to anything like Doom3 was at the time is beyond me. Id never stated that they wanted to push FPS's forward and create something revolutionary, they just wanted to remake Doom. Simple as that. What is Halo3 doing that's ground breaking? What's Bioshock doing that's groundbreaking? What's MGS4 doing that's ground breaking? What's Uncharted doing that's ground breaking? What about Mass Effect? What about any game coming out? What about GeoW? None seem to be "ground breaking". Yet they most likley will be pretty damn good games.

So now hermits are going back on saying Crysis will be revolutionary? That's a first....

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I'm excited about time of day lighting. How about you? Lightbeams? Hell yes. That does not make me a graphics whore.

Just imagine those types of effects in a MMORPG or sandbox adventure. Crysis is designed to showcase an engine that can do incredible things. The newest versions of Direct X and in a way, OpenGL are what take PC gaming into it's different eras.

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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

What we've seen of Doom 3's single-player, so far, seems extremely impressive. Its graphics are nothing short of amazing, and the game sounds fantastic as well. What's more, while Doom 3 might have previously seemed like a rather straightforward shooter, it actually seems to have a number of interesting additional gameplay elements that directly affect the game. We earnestly hope that the rest of the single-player game can be as consistently atmospheric, good-looking, and as exciting as what we've seen so far.FrozenLiquid

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/news.html?sid=6075567&page=2

If you read the preview of Doom 3 here, it sounds a lot like how people describe Crysis in excitement. GameSpot are trying to be objective in the preview whilst describing what they saw, but you can tell they were very impressed by it. And hermits would quote certain bits of information and laugh at console boys faces when they couldn't answer. They would also just laugh at Halo 2 because all there was, was an "unimpressive 8 minute demonstration of no in-game gameplay (E3 2004)"

For me, this feels like the Doom 3 of 2007. Graphics first, everything second. This hype is not like Half Life 2's. In fact, Half Life 2's graphics hype started coming after with the flexibility of the Source Engine and stuff. Half Life 2's hype solely came from game play (single player)and A.I. It delivered the former, but failed the latter.

I was watching the new Crysis video with hermits drooling over the gun play. Over what? Graphics? Gentlemen, I didn't see anything that I haven't seen before in that video. That real time modding stuff -- that's just one gun instead of having to carry 5. That's not going to change FPSs forever. It's more of a gimmick to me. Someone was talking about how the missile launcher was extremely cool. I thought it would be an interesting take on it but, I was wrong. He was talking about how sweet looking it was.

The only thing I'm hyped for is the zero G environment since I love sci fi stuff, but even then the story seems a little iffy. So yeah, personally, I think this game is getting too much hype.

GS tries to describe every preview of a game in a positive manner. Hell, they even said good things about Hour of Victory in the previews, which ended up getting a 2.0. How anyone can think Crysis is going to anything like Doom3 was at the time is beyond me. Id never stated that they wanted to push FPS's forward and create something revolutionary, they just wanted to remake Doom. Simple as that. What is Halo3 doing that's ground breaking? What's Bioshock doing that's groundbreaking? What's MGS4 doing that's ground breaking? What's Uncharted doing that's ground breaking? What about Mass Effect? What about any game coming out? What about GeoW? None seem to be "ground breaking". Yet they most likley will be pretty damn good games.

So now hermits are going back on saying Crysis will be revolutionary? That's a first....

I never said Crysis was revolutionary. It's hard to call a game revolutionary. But evolutionary? Definently. I think it's going to pushe FPS's forward.

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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

What we've seen of Doom 3's single-player, so far, seems extremely impressive. Its graphics are nothing short of amazing, and the game sounds fantastic as well. What's more, while Doom 3 might have previously seemed like a rather straightforward shooter, it actually seems to have a number of interesting additional gameplay elements that directly affect the game. We earnestly hope that the rest of the single-player game can be as consistently atmospheric, good-looking, and as exciting as what we've seen so far.FrozenLiquid

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/news.html?sid=6075567&page=2

If you read the preview of Doom 3 here, it sounds a lot like how people describe Crysis in excitement. GameSpot are trying to be objective in the preview whilst describing what they saw, but you can tell they were very impressed by it. And hermits would quote certain bits of information and laugh at console boys faces when they couldn't answer. They would also just laugh at Halo 2 because all there was, was an "unimpressive 8 minute demonstration of no in-game gameplay (E3 2004)"

For me, this feels like the Doom 3 of 2007. Graphics first, everything second. This hype is not like Half Life 2's. In fact, Half Life 2's graphics hype started coming after with the flexibility of the Source Engine and stuff. Half Life 2's hype solely came from game play (single player)and A.I. It delivered the former, but failed the latter.

I was watching the new Crysis video with hermits drooling over the gun play. Over what? Graphics? Gentlemen, I didn't see anything that I haven't seen before in that video. That real time modding stuff -- that's just one gun instead of having to carry 5. That's not going to change FPSs forever. It's more of a gimmick to me. Someone was talking about how the missile launcher was extremely cool. I thought it would be an interesting take on it but, I was wrong. He was talking about how sweet looking it was.

The only thing I'm hyped for is the zero G environment since I love sci fi stuff, but even then the story seems a little iffy. So yeah, personally, I think this game is getting too much hype.

GS tries to describe every preview of a game in a positive manner. Hell, they even said good things about Hour of Victory in the previews, which ended up getting a 2.0. How anyone can think Crysis is going to anything like Doom3 was at the time is beyond me. Id never stated that they wanted to push FPS's forward and create something revolutionary, they just wanted to remake Doom. Simple as that. What is Halo3 doing that's ground breaking? What's Bioshock doing that's groundbreaking? What's MGS4 doing that's ground breaking? What's Uncharted doing that's ground breaking? What about Mass Effect? What about any game coming out? What about GeoW? None seem to be "ground breaking". Yet they most likley will be pretty damn good games.

So now hermits are going back on saying Crysis will be revolutionary? That's a first....

Halo wasnt a revolution neither is Crysis, Crysis is just doing what Halo did back in 2001 , Merging thigns together into a complete Package.

Why does Halo 3 deserve all its hype? theyre going as far now as to say it looks better than Gears and UT3 based on one silly little picture ... yet when we complain about that its blasphemous.

The gameplay? While alot fo people liek Halo's gameplaya alot of people dont aswell, but theyre yelled at for their opinion.

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People are bashing Crysis because they don't want their cookie cutter fps gameplay to vanish! Crysis will allow the player to persue their own path, tackle situations in a variety of manners by utilizing the realistic physics and interacte environments. They don't want to play a FPS that allows you to have a different style of play then other people (method of suit and combined tactics.) People want to be able to hide in a small hut and know that the tank can't run over the bambo!

People bash Crysis because Crysis destroys almost every notion of the old school FPS even my beloved HALF LIFE 2 gone will be the same old play style same old scripted paths and events.

Crysis allows the player to use their own intelligence to tackle each situation and each time its played over and over the SP will offer new gameplay.

I guess some FPS fans are either overwhelmed or fear the CRYSIS style of absolute freedom to play the game however you want. They want to run through small hallways blast enemies that CANT TRACE YOUR FOOT STEPS IN THE SAND or THINK for themselves. They want the enemies to run straight at you.

Yes it has to be because everyone that is hyping the game has read all the interviews knows how awesome this game is gonna be and are hyping the NEW gameplay elements from which we read about.

So either the people bashing the game didn't read anything about the game or just hates the new freedom extreme open ended gameplay that Crysis is gonna offer.

rant/

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I never said Crysis was revolutionary. It's hard to call a game revolutionary. But evolutionary? Definently. I think it's going to pushe FPS's forward.

trix5817

Ok. Baddog and a few others were calling it revolutionary though.

And not necessarily all FPSs forward, but it will open new paths. Because not all FPSs will be sandbox. At least I think it won't.

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Doom 3 was hyped because of graphics. Crysis is being hyped because of everything in the game. Not only that but most are hyping it what they actually think it will get, and most are probably going to be right. No FPS on the PC has scored over 9.4 so the maximum hype that true hermits are applying to Crysis is around 9.0. A very respectable score. Not to mention, the reason hermits left after Doom 3 flopping was because of a giant bet.
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For me, this feels like the Doom 3 of 2007. Graphics first, everything second.

FrozenLiquid

That's my worry. I can't restate this enough. Although I'd be the first to admit that even Half-life 2 didn't up the standard on how FPS games are played, it did, however, raise the bar on how FPS stories are told.

So all in all, if Crysis doesn't revolutionize the genre - with its killer engine, its storyline should at least be up to scratch. But I've never finished Far Cry, but I hear the story is pretty weak. Anyone care to correct / affirm me on that?

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Halo wasnt a revolution neither is Crysis, Crysis is just doing what Halo did back in 2001 , Merging thigns together into a complete Package.

Why does Halo 3 deserve all its hype? theyre going as far now as to say it looks better than Gears and UT3 based on one silly little picture ... yet when we complain about that its blasphemous.

The gameplay? While alot fo people liek Halo's gameplaya alot of people dont aswell, but theyre yelled at for their opinion.

Meu2k7

I've never said Halo was a revolution, never will hear me say it.

Why does Halo 3 deserve the hype? That was just arguing for the sake of arguing. It has two critically acclaimed games before it, and the notion that it will buck up the single player that was poorly executed in Halo 2.

I'm missing out on these "Halo 3 looks better" threads, but if they are....... Well, at the very least, I think it looks better than Gears. UT3? Maybe not.

People are bashing Crysis because they don't want their cookie cutter fps gameplay to vanish! Crysis will allow the player to persue their own path, tackle situations in a variety of manners by utilizing the realistic physics and interacte environments. They don't want to play a FPS that allows you to have a different style of play then other people (method of suit and combined tactics.) People want to be able to hide in a small hut and know that the tank can't run over the bambo!

People bash Crysis because Crysis destroys almost every notion of the old school FPS even my beloved HALF LIFE 2 gone will be the same old play style same old scripted paths and events.

Crysis allows the player to use their own intelligence to tackle each situation and each time its played over and over the SP will offer new gameplay.

I guess some FPS fans are either overwhelmed or fear the CRYSIS style of absolute freedom to play the game however you want. They want to run through small hallways blast enemies that CANT TRACE YOUR FOOT STEPS IN THE SAND or THINK for themselves. They want the enemies to run straight at you.

Yes it has to be because everyone that is hyping the game has read all the interviews knows how awesome this game is gonna be and are hyping the NEW gameplay elements from which we read about.

So either the people bashing the game didn't read anything about the game or just hates the new freedom extreme open ended gameplay that Crysis is gonna offer.

rant/

PDark_Prodigy

See what I mean, trix?

I've heard the freeform game play in previous FPSs before. Forgot what it was called, it was lost into the element of time....

But anyway, this is a small strand of Half Life -- type hype. Careful what you say Prodigy, the A.I may not deliver like you expect it too. Lucky Half Life fans got engaging single player overall, but they were still disappointed.

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]Halo wasnt a revolution neither is Crysis, Crysis is just doing what Halo did back in 2001 , Merging thigns together into a complete Package.

Why does Halo 3 deserve all its hype? theyre going as far now as to say it looks better than Gears and UT3 based on one silly little picture ... yet when we complain about that its blasphemous.

The gameplay? While alot fo people liek Halo's gameplaya alot of people dont aswell, but theyre yelled at for their opinion.

FrozenLiquid

I've never said Halo was a revolution, never will hear me say it.

Why does Halo 3 deserve the hype? That was just arguing for the sake of arguing. It has two critically acclaimed games before it, and the notion that it will buck up the single player that was poorly executed in Halo 2.

I'm missing out on these "Halo 3 looks better" threads, but if they are....... Well, at the very least, I think it looks better than Gears. UT3? Maybe not.

People are bashing Crysis because they don't want their cookie cutter fps gameplay to vanish! Crysis will allow the player to persue their own path, tackle situations in a variety of manners by utilizing the realistic physics and interacte environments. They don't want to play a FPS that allows you to have a different style of play then other people (method of suit and combined tactics.) People want to be able to hide in a small hut and know that the tank can't run over the bambo!

People bash Crysis because Crysis destroys almost every notion of the old school FPS even my beloved HALF LIFE 2 gone will be the same old play style same old scripted paths and events.

Crysis allows the player to use their own intelligence to tackle each situation and each time its played over and over the SP will offer new gameplay.

I guess some FPS fans are either overwhelmed or fear the CRYSIS style of absolute freedom to play the game however you want. They want to run through small hallways blast enemies that CANT TRACE YOUR FOOT STEPS IN THE SAND or THINK for themselves. They want the enemies to run straight at you.

Yes it has to be because everyone that is hyping the game has read all the interviews knows how awesome this game is gonna be and are hyping the NEW gameplay elements from which we read about.

So either the people bashing the game didn't read anything about the game or just hates the new freedom extreme open ended gameplay that Crysis is gonna offer.

rant/

PDark_Prodigy

See what I mean, trix?

I've heard the freeform game play in previous FPSs before. Forgot what it was called, it was lost into the element of time....

But anyway, this is a small strand of Half Life -- type hype. Careful what you say Prodigy, the A.I may not deliver like you expect it too. Lucky Half Life fans got engaging single player overall, but they were still disappointed.

You are very true, the A.I. may not deliver I mean there is even a possiblity that the a lot of the gameplay mechanics that make Crysis so exciting might not deliver, but for me and many others its those things not the graphics that create the hype and anticipation.

But yes like all games ... i.e. HL2 A.I. :( things can turn out not as they were hyped to be. (I still Love HL2 though)

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Doom 3 was hyped because of graphics. Crysis is being hyped because of everything in the game. Not only that but most are hyping it what they actually think it will get, and most are probably going to be right. No FPS on the PC has scored over 9.4 so the maximum hype that true hermits are applying to Crysis is around 9.0. A very respectable score. Not to mention, the reason hermits left after Doom 3 flopping was because of a giant bet.foxhound_fox

Don't know if you were here back in 2004, but hermits were quoting the frightening bits all gaming journalists played, extrapolating what the A.I will do (read that preview I posted, it talks about a monster finding its way past an unbreakable glass window), etc all with fantastic graphics and shocking sound. This is what Crysis sounds like. Although I admit Crysis has a stronger stand for game play.

Crysis may just get 9.5 with the new rating system. Let's see if they have anything more up their sleeves.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

For me, this feels like the Doom 3 of 2007. Graphics first, everything second.

x_boyfriend

That's my worry. I can't restate this enough. Although I'd be the first to admit that even Half-life 2 didn't up the standard on how FPS games are played, it did, however, raise the bar on how FPS stories are told.

So all in all, if Crysis doesn't revolutionize the genre - with its killer engine, its storyline should at least be up to scratch. But I've never finished Far Cry, but I hear the story is pretty weak. Anyone care to correct / affirm me on that?

The story IMO, sucked.

If you want a good story, play Halo. If you want good story telling, play Half Life.

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Team Fortress 2 > Crysis
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[QUOTE="trix5817"]

I never said Crysis was revolutionary. It's hard to call a game revolutionary. But evolutionary? Definently. I think it's going to pushe FPS's forward.

FrozenLiquid

Ok. Baddog and a few others were calling it revolutionary though.

And not necessarily all FPSs forward, but it will open new paths. Because not all FPSs will be sandbox. At least I think it won't.

Lol, I never called it revolutionary.
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="trix5817"]

I never said Crysis was revolutionary. It's hard to call a game revolutionary. But evolutionary? Definently. I think it's going to pushe FPS's forward.

baddog121390

Ok. Baddog and a few others were calling it revolutionary though.

And not necessarily all FPSs forward, but it will open new paths. Because not all FPSs will be sandbox. At least I think it won't.

Lol, I never called it revolutionary.

Lucky for you, I don't go searching through forums to find posts.

I swear with one of your Crysis advertisements there would be some feature saying "Crysis will revolutionize....."

Wish people would admit things y'know. Now I every damn hermit will say they never said Crysis will be revolutionary.

You are very true, the A.I. may not deliver I mean there is even a possiblity that the a lot of the gameplay mechanics that make Crysis so exciting might not deliver, but for me and many others its those things not the graphics that create the hype and anticipation.

But yes like all games ... i.e. HL2 A.I. :( things can turn out not as they were hyped to be. (I still Love HL2 though)

PDark_Prodigy

It's just really ambitious with the destructible environment. If A.I can really truly adapt I would be floored. That'd take the A.I leaps and bounds ahead of anything else.

But yeah, Half Life 2 rocks. Played it with the cinematic mods?