Hermits setting themselves up for ownage? (Crysis)

Crysis allows the player to use their own intelligence to tackle each situation and each time its played over and over the SP will offer new gameplay.

I guess some FPS fans are either overwhelmed or fear the CRYSIS style of absolute freedom to play the game however you want. They want to run through small hallways blast enemies that CANT TRACE YOUR FOOT STEPS IN THE SAND or THINK for themselves. They want the enemies to run straight at you.

Yes it has to be because everyone that is hyping the game has read all the interviews knows how awesome this game is gonna be and are hyping the NEW gameplay elements from which we read about.

So either the people bashing the game didn't read anything about the game or just hates the new freedom extreme open ended gameplay that Crysis is gonna offer.

PDark_Prodigy

I highly doubt gamers bash a game on the developers' promises. Gamers bash a game based on the promises they feel they can't deliver on. A lot of games have advertised open-endedness: Stalker, Might and Magic: Dark Messiah, and even Halo (originally intended to be free-roaming).

A.I is also another promise that is easy to throw around. As Frozen Liquid stated, even HL2's A.I wasn't up to par to Valve's original intentions. FEAR, I felt, was on to something, but still felt lacking (so they flank and communicate, but still walk into live fire).

But since Crysis' graphics / physics is what we see, then that's what we believe. We can't make judgements on free roaming, A.I just yet. This isn't to say that Crytek won't deliver. It'd be phenomenal if they did. But there's something called public relations & marketing.

I might of said that once before, but I certainly don't remember it, and for sure don't agree with it currently. I could of been really excited from some new media, or just really high. Either way, I don't think Crysis will pull a 1993 Doom. Neither do I think it will pull a 2004 Doom.

One thing I can say is, that it will be shooter GOTY. I'm not excited about the graphics anymore, I've grown used to them in the past year and a half. It's that other stuff which is really feeding my expectations. I'm not going to explain why, because I've done it enough - a beta is just around the corner so I'll let that do the talking.

The story IMO, sucked.

If you want a good story, play Halo. If you want good story telling, play Half Life.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah, and since Crysis' is following in the spiritual footsteps of Far Cry, I hope the aliens during the winter stages don't turn the plot into some B-Movie ham. I think the single player will definitely play a big role in defining where Crysis stands with both critics and gamers.

I definitely agree on your comment on Halo and Half-Life. Good to see there are still people that can differentiate story and storytelling.

Let my guess, my 6800 can barely run this game?

I also predict some people will lower score, cause of steep hardware requirments.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]So? It did not need awesome multiplayer to be consider revolutionary whats your point? Counterstrike source was fine anyway.trix5817

Because GeoW had such an amazing MP........yet it got a 9.6.

Are you trying to argue that PC games don't have standards? It's a fact. Go look at GS's page about it.

*Bashes face into brick wall repeatedly*

A) Gears MP is far better than HL2s, says me and 95% of all acclaimed critics.

B) How you came to yet another assumption that I think "PC games don't have standards" is simply beyond me. I have said not one word to imply this.

Let my guess, my 6800 can barely run this game?

I also predict some people will lower score, cause of steep hardware requirments.

TheTerribleFish

[QUOTE="trix5817"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]So? It did not need awesome multiplayer to be consider revolutionary whats your point? Counterstrike source was fine anyway.Spartan070

Because GeoW had such an amazing MP........yet it got a 9.6.

Are you trying to argue that PC games don't have standards? It's a fact. Go look at GS's page about it.

*Bashes face into brick wall repeatedly*

A) Gears MP is far better than HL2s, says me and 95% of all acclaimed critics.

B) How you came to yet another(*:roll:*) assumption that I think "PC games don't have standards" is simply beyond me. I have said not one word to imply this. Please quote me if I did.

This is my opinion but i absolutely hated Gears of War online. I dont find it fun. Its to slow for me. I need something that is fasted paced.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

The story IMO, sucked.

If you want a good story, play Halo. If you want good story telling, play Half Life.

x_boyfriend

Yeah, and since Crysis' is following in the spiritual footsteps of Far Cry, I hope the aliens during the winter stages don't turn the plot into some B-Movie ham. I think the single player will definitely play a big role in defining where Crysis stands with both critics and gamers.

I definitely agree on your comment on Halo and Half-Life. Good to see there are still people that can differentiate story and storytelling.

I say bring on E3 to shut up all haters. We havent seen anything yet. Weve barely scratched the surface of what we can do. Even with what they have shown how can you not be excited. Im also ready to see it in DX10 for the first time.Killfox

Heck, I'm not! I'm still saving up money for a DX10 card. And vista scares me.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]I say bring on E3 to shut up all haters. We havent seen anything yet. Weve barely scratched the surface of what we can do. Even with what they have shown how can you not be excited. Im also ready to see it in DX10 for the first time.x_boyfriend

Heck, I'm not! I'm still saving up money for a DX10 card. And vista scares me.

Vista isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Yes it has its flaws but its a pretty decent OS. It just needs some more time. What GPU you thinking about getting???

[QUOTE="x_boyfriend"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

The story IMO, sucked.

If you want a good story, play Halo. If you want good story telling, play Half Life.

baddog121390

Yeah, and since Crysis' is following in the spiritual footsteps of Far Cry, I hope the aliens during the winter stages don't turn the plot into some B-Movie ham. I think the single player will definitely play a big role in defining where Crysis stands with both critics and gamers.

I definitely agree on your comment on Halo and Half-Life. Good to see there are still people that can differentiate story and storytelling.

You know all this, can you shred any light on your squad mates that were mentioned a long time back? The black dude, that White guy with gruthage and that female character, all looked pretty unfinished at the time.

damn glitchspot.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]I say bring on E3 to shut up all haters. We havent seen anything yet. Weve barely scratched the surface of what we can do. Even with what they have shown how can you not be excited. Im also ready to see it in DX10 for the first time.x_boyfriend

Heck, I'm not! I'm still saving up money for a DX10 card. And vista scares me.

Dont be afraid of vista :P its a great OS, ofcourse for Crysis im going 3GB instead of 2 to be on the safe side, it does use 500ish as standard. (OS).

But I love Vista, dont want to go back to XP ever.

I'm a hermit. I admit it.

But are we going too far with the Crysis hype? So far that even console fanboys can't argue with the fact that Crysis looks - dare i say it - frickin' amazing? Despite the fact that Crysis is only a few waits away, the hype is growing at an undeniably alarming rate. Are we digging our own graves here?

Not to say that Crysis won't be a good game. Heck, I bought a new rig just to prepare for it (Just so you know,my last rig lasted me five years. So screw that upgrade every six months bull). But with all the buzz around it (and mostly about visuals), I can't help but worry about the fact that the game might NEVER meet expectations.

Granted, Crytek has proven their worth. But so has ID Software. I fear for another DOOM 3 in our hands. And quite frankly, that game was hyped in much the same way (graphics, screen shots, tech demos and videos). But then again, Half-Life 2 was hyped like a monster. And I'd like to think that Valve delivered.

Don't get me wrong. I fell off my seat when I saw the first footage of Crysis. But then again, I might just fall off my seat when I realize that footage might be all we have.

x_boyfriend

Relax, the game will do fine, if there is one thing I dislike about hermits, that they are worry-warts, you sure didn't get this hand-wringing with the sheep over Twilight Princess despite the fact that they had hyped the thing much, much more than we have with Crysis, and even when it did flop, rather that accept that it's a rehash, they blamed the reviewer.

I say bring on E3 to shut up all haters. We havent seen anything yet. Weve barely scratched the surface of what we can do. Even with what they have shown how can you not be excited. Im also ready to see it in DX10 for the first time.Killfox

Heck, I'm not! I'm still saving up money for a DX10 card. And vista scares me.

I don't get why people are still scared ****less about Vista, it's a perfectly fine, stable os that provides DX10 capability to games. nearly all the kinks have been worked out by now, service pack or not.

[QUOTE="x_boyfriend"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]I say bring on E3 to shut up all haters. We havent seen anything yet. Weve barely scratched the surface of what we can do. Even with what they have shown how can you not be excited. Im also ready to see it in DX10 for the first time.Meu2k7

Heck, I'm not! I'm still saving up money for a DX10 card. And vista scares me.

Dont be afraid of vista :P its a great OS, ofcourse for Crysis im going 3GB instead of 2 to be on the safe side, it does use 500ish as standard. (OS).

But I love Vista, dont want to go back to XP ever.

Was hoping to get Nvidia's entry level 8 series, but totally gawked at the new benchmarks GS released. No way in hell am I running with frames that low. Are you on a DX10 card?

Yeah, I'm definitely going to 4GB when I switch to Vista (I'm really just waiting for the DX10 games to make it worth the switch), I work in graphic design and video production so the extra memory ain't just for gaming. hehe.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="x_boyfriend"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]I say bring on E3 to shut up all haters. We havent seen anything yet. Weve barely scratched the surface of what we can do. Even with what they have shown how can you not be excited. Im also ready to see it in DX10 for the first time.x_boyfriend

Heck, I'm not! I'm still saving up money for a DX10 card. And vista scares me.

Dont be afraid of vista :P its a great OS, ofcourse for Crysis im going 3GB instead of 2 to be on the safe side, it does use 500ish as standard. (OS).

But I love Vista, dont want to go back to XP ever.

Was hoping to get Nvidia's entry level 8 series, but totally gawked at the new benchmarks GS released. No way in hell am I running with frames that low. Are you on a DX10 card?

Yeah, I'm definitely going to 4GB when I switch to Vista (I'm really just waiting for the DX10 games to make it worth the switch), I work in graphic design and video production so the extra memory ain't just for gaming. hehe.

I'm using Nvidia 8800 GTS 640 MB , the frame difference ins STALKER wasnt much at least to my awareness, I did have to google sound drivers when I switched to vista however.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]To add to my last post, just look at the post above that one.Spartan070

I don't get why people are still scared ****less about Vista, it's a perfectly fine, stable os that provides DX10 capability to games. nearly all the kinks have been worked out by now, service pack or not.

mikemil828

I think it's more on the reviews I've been reading that it's a resource hog. Since I work in video production, editing and rendering takes a wicked amount of resources as it is. And as you can safely presume, I'm not an early adopter. And none of my peers in the same field have switched to Vista to see just how editing / graphics software work in high-stress situations with Vista.

We're all way waiting for one of us to cave when Crysis comes out.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]I'm not talking revolutionary or multiplayer mods that are not reviewed as a part of the game, I'm talking about a big part of the reason it got the score it did: paltry MP.
smokeydabear076

Well let's put it this way.

Games that are hyped get noticed. They then prepare the consumer and the media's minds for a good game, which results in more enjoyment and better reviews.

Games which are overly hyped actually damage the game, because while it moves a certain ampount of units, the actual game can't live up to the hype involved. The game is perceived as being worse than it is, the reviewers pan it, and the consumers dn't get as much fun out of it as they would have otherwise. The game ends up being an anticliimax to the excessive buildup.

So hype your games a little but, don't hype them to the moon.

Crysis has been hyped to the moon, but only for graphics. It might deliver, but only for overpowered Pcs that no one has. The gameplay looks good but not way better than anything. I feel that peope may be disappointed who were lookiing forward to the game as the messiah.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]I'm not talking revolutionary or multiplayer mods that are not reviewed as a part of the game, I'm talking about a big part of the reason it got the score it did: paltry MP.
Spartan070

Anyway since MP is such a vital component what makes people think that a game like Bioshock will score very high?smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]I'm not talking revolutionary or multiplayer mods that are not reviewed as a part of the game, I'm talking about a big part of the reason it got the score it did: paltry MP.
Spartan070

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"] Anyway since MP is such a vital component what makes people think that a game like Bioshock will score very high?Spartan070

[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="x_boyfriend"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

The story IMO, sucked.

If you want a good story, play Halo. If you want good story telling, play Half Life.

Meu2k7

Yeah, and since Crysis' is following in the spiritual footsteps of Far Cry, I hope the aliens during the winter stages don't turn the plot into some B-Movie ham. I think the single player will definitely play a big role in defining where Crysis stands with both critics and gamers.

I definitely agree on your comment on Halo and Half-Life. Good to see there are still people that can differentiate story and storytelling.

You know all this, can you shred any light on your squad mates that were mentioned a long time back? The black dude, that White guy with gruthage and that female character, all looked pretty unfinished at the time.

damn glitchspot.

If Crysis delivers on what it promises the standards should be set a lot higher, if it does not then it scoring lower will not be a surprise to me.smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

I don't get why people are still scared ****less about Vista, it's a perfectly fine, stable os that provides DX10 capability to games. nearly all the kinks have been worked out by now, service pack or not.

x_boyfriend

I think it's more on the reviews I've been reading that it's a resource hog. Since I work in video production, editing and rendering takes a wicked amount of resources as it is. And as you can safely presume, I'm not an early adopter. And none of my peers in the same field have switched to Vista to see just how editing / graphics software work in high-stress situations with Vista.

We're all way waiting for one of us to cave when Crysis comes out.

Vista isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Yes it has its flaws but its a pretty decent OS. It just needs some more time. What GPU you thinking about getting???

Killfox

I was originally thinking of getting the entry / mid level 8 series. They haven't released 'em yet in my country. But the prices look okay when I browse online. But after seeing the new DX10 benchmarks of GS - well, let's just say I am rethinking my purchase.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

Vista isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Yes it has its flaws but its a pretty decent OS. It just needs some more time. What GPU you thinking about getting???

x_boyfriend

I was originally thinking of getting the entry / mid level 8 series. They haven't released 'em yet in my country. But the prices look okay when I browse online. But after seeing the new DX10 benchmarks of GS - well, let's just say I am rethinking my purchase.

Mid levels are terrible. But if your looking for a pretty cheap one. Get the 8800GTS 320mb. Ive seen them for $250 on some websites. For me though. Ive got to get eh best. So im gunna be getting a GTX. What resolution do you play on???

Resource Hog? What, you scared about the fact that Vista utilizes all your ram all the time as if it was cache? What's the point of buying all that memory if it is not always being used constantly to make your computer run faster? It's not like Vista will ever really stall out due to an overuse of memory, I can run pretty much anything I want on just 2 gigs of memory and you are planning to get 4 gigs. Relax. Anyway I'm pretty sure I know why you guys aren't switching to vista, it costs MONEY to upgrade, and seeing how expensive graphics software is (Especially Adobe stuff) you rather not spend more than you really have to, especially if XP does a perfectly fine job.
mikemil828

Yeah, if you're not already on a Mac, we're pretty much happy with our XP setups (I still find Macs, as great as they are, overpriced buggers). I'm currently on 2 gigs of ram.

Though I've heard Vista needs at least a gig to run smooth. The 4gigs I'm planning is really for the switch to Vista, which we all know is inevitable. When that's going to be is the question. But the mass migration for the design and media fields will begin once companies like Adobe start integrating perks with Vista (just like how programs like Premiere Pro 2 utilize multi-core processing). Or of course, when games like Crysis, Quake Wars and Hellgate roll out.

We think it's going to be the latter. hehe.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]If Crysis delivers on what it promises the standards should be set a lot higher, if it does not then it scoring lower will not be a surprise to me.Spartan070

Edit: I do not really see Crysis effect Gears of War that much because they are in different genres then again it would probably be FPS players that buy this game on the PC so it might effect the score. If it does I would be guess 7.0-8.0 just because of the other problems that traditionally come with Console to PC ports.

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More first level gameplay impressions (from WSVG):
http://forums.livingwith****com/showthread.php?p=3859134643

Ok so I played the first level of crysis so far. The game is heavily emphasized with HDR and detail. I really like the whole blurred vision when turning quickly. It's exactly what I had hoped it to be.

However, the AI isn't the greatest. Well from what I have seen at least.

* I am playing the Beta.

I'm at the WSVG, it is sponsored by intel.
Here is some info you guys may be interested in. It was posted by me at a different forum.

Rig specs from what I can tell:
8800GTS
Core 2 extreme
and some corsair ram sticks with light up heatsinks.

The game runs fairly smooth, but tends to studder in VERY extensive fights.
Although the game looks MAGICALLY SEXY, i can tell that it may be on the lowest/medium settings.

If they're are any overclockers out there with a rig that can be a stock 8800gts, core 2 extreme, and whatever the ram was then you are good to go.

And finally, to obtain the beta you would have to be at this event like I am.
The wsvg, which is sponsored by intel.

The greatest thing so far is the extreme detail in the game, if you shoot a box the box actually falls apart, somewhat like HL2 except WAAAAY more detailed. And the blood looks OUTSTANDING. Yes, the splinters shoot from the tree. And yes, you can pick up objects. I used a garbage bag before for cover :]

didnt work out too well =/

remember this is a beta, and there are ALOT of bugs still.
but nothing a little testing wont cure"

enjoy

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..... medium/low? .... that dont sound good.

[QUOTE="x_boyfriend"][QUOTE="Killfox"]

Vista isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Yes it has its flaws but its a pretty decent OS. It just needs some more time. What GPU you thinking about getting???

Killfox

I was originally thinking of getting the entry / mid level 8 series. They haven't released 'em yet in my country. But the prices look okay when I browse online. But after seeing the new DX10 benchmarks of GS - well, let's just say I am rethinking my purchase.

Mid levels are terrible. But if your looking for a pretty cheap one. Get the 8800GTS 320mb. Ive seen them for $250 on some websites. For me though. Ive got to get eh best. So im gunna be getting a GTX. What resolution do you play on???

Thanks for the tip. I'll keep my eye out on that card, see how it reacts to the market. Hopefully ATI comes out with some more cards soon to broaden up the options, start up the competition. I won't be buying 'til a few more months so hopefully I'll see a price drop by then.

Resolution? Depends on the game of course. Thing is, I'm playing GalCiv 2 right now. Hardly think a TBS is an adequate benchmark though. Haha. Other than that I'm playing Vegas on 1280 x 1024. Frame rate dips a bit, but I think it's more the lack of optimization than hardware bottlenecking.

Damn ubiport.

I'm on a 7600 GST btw.

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More first level gameplay impressions (from WSVG):
http://forums.livingwith****com/showthread.php?p=3859134643

Ok so I played the first level of crysis so far. The game is heavily emphasized with HDR and detail. I really like the whole blurred vision when turning quickly. It's exactly what I had hoped it to be.

However, the AI isn't the greatest. Well from what I have seen at least.

* I am playing the Beta.

I'm at the WSVG, it is sponsored by intel.
Here is some info you guys may be interested in. It was posted by me at a different forum.

Rig specs from what I can tell:
8800GTS
Core 2 extreme
and some corsair ram sticks with light up heatsinks.

The game runs fairly smooth, but tends to studder in VERY extensive fights.
Although the game looks MAGICALLY SEXY, i can tell that it may be on the lowest/medium settings.

Meu2k7

Nice post. Thanks man. But damn. That's some steep requirements. And how could've he have guessed it's on low / med settings if it looks fantastic?

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

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More first level gameplay impressions (from WSVG):
http://forums.livingwith****com/showthread.php?p=3859134643

Ok so I played the first level of crysis so far. The game is heavily emphasized with HDR and detail. I really like the whole blurred vision when turning quickly. It's exactly what I had hoped it to be.

However, the AI isn't the greatest. Well from what I have seen at least.

* I am playing the Beta.

I'm at the WSVG, it is sponsored by intel.
Here is some info you guys may be interested in. It was posted by me at a different forum.

Rig specs from what I can tell:
8800GTS
Core 2 extreme
and some corsair ram sticks with light up heatsinks.

The game runs fairly smooth, but tends to studder in VERY extensive fights.
Although the game looks MAGICALLY SEXY, i can tell that it may be on the lowest/medium settings.

x_boyfriend

Nice post. Thanks man. But damn. That's some steep requirements. And how could've he have guessed it's on low / med settings if it looks fantastic?

I have no idea, I'm waiting for Baddog or Cobrax or Trix to explain it, because its been said E6600 / GTS / 2 GB Ram plays it at ultra high.

I wonder if he was playing the DX9 or DX10 version. I dont thin kill have to worry about playing this game. Q6600, 2Gb XMS2 RAM, 8800GTX, and a P35 mobo. Im gunna OC the crap out of my new rig.Killfox

The hype has grown far beyond that of many other games, but from the gameplay videos I wouldn't be surprised if Crysis meets the hype. If it doesn't live up to the massive hype then it'll probably still be a superb game, it'll just be considered a "flop" here.

After hearing that a GTS/E6600/2GB Memory can run the game on Ultra High (supposedly), I'll be extremely happy with my new PC, which has exactly those components.Saturos3091

I wish more people were like you. You except that it looks awesome and seems to play very well. You know its not just graphics anymore. Recent gameplay videos have gotten me more excited about eh gameplay and the graphics. Enjoy crysis with your rig.

i dont think that guy was correct about it being so demanding even on low/medium, because i remember seeing something about how they plan to make it to where a7800 can max on dx9 mode, and i wouldnt expect dx10 to be so much more demanding.i wouldnt be suprised if they have been taking most of this past year just optimizing, because remember the main reason Supreme Commander (another game that"pushed"its genre forward)was scored so low was because it is very demanding.

i dont think that guy was correct about it being so demanding even on low/medium, because i remember seeing something about how they plan to make it to where a7800 can max on dx9 mode, and i wouldnt expect dx10 to be so much more demanding.i wouldnt be suprised if they have been taking most of this past year just optimizing, because remember the main reason Supreme Commander (another game that"pushed"its genre forward)was scored so low was because it is very demanding.

chronogamer27

DX10's primary advantages are in the area of improved efficiency, and therefore it's actually even less demanding than DX9 (when rendering identical scenes.) Not more demanding as you imply.

Dont worry the game will be good!!!!AAA i mean!!

but dont expect gears and Halo from it!!!

Dont worry the game will be good!!!!AAA i mean!!

but dont expect gears and Halo from it!!!

5th_element

Are you high?