Hey, DA2 haters.....

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"][QUOTE="jjccjj92"]

Is it true the whole game takes place in one city? That'd be a huge bummer if so...

That's extremely disappointing. One of the great things about Origins was its environmental variety. Spending 40 plus hours in one area doesn't sound very appealing to me.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

[QUOTE="110million"]

Yes.

[QUOTE="rolo107"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

It still doesn't look interesting to me, and I was a huge fan of the first title.

jasonharris48

[QUOTE="rolo107"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

It still doesn't look interesting to me, and I was a huge fan of the first title.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="rolo107"] Clearly not... "I loved the first! But I'm passing up the chance to get my first real chance to look at the game." That just doesn't jive. rolo107

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] definitely not a JRPG. one of the best games this gen, but not a JRPG by any regard.

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] definitely not a JRPG. one of the best games this gen, but not a JRPG by any regard.

texasgoldrush

So Planescape Torment and Anachronox are JRPGs because they have Jrpg influences?..

.Are Dragon Quest 8 and White Knight Chronicles WRPGs because both take place in a Medieval Fantasy world with Knights/Swords/Sorcery/Dragons?

How about giving credit where it's due.

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="jjccjj92"]Maybe I played a different game than everyone else but basic enemies in Origins never required any sort of tactics to bring down. Only when you were up against Elites or whatever they were called did strategy come into play.

dreman999

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]It's made by a Japanese dev therefor it's a JRPG.

dreman999

Wow Dreman...you and me actually agree on something...

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="rolo107"] Clearly not... "I loved the first! But I'm passing up the chance to get my first real chance to look at the game." That just doesn't jive. dreman999

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]It's made by a Japanese dev therefor it's a JRPG.

dreman999

True dat.. JRPGs started (and still do) use mechanics created in the west, I don't see how that changes anything.

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Yangire

Dont bother...

People dont wanna call King's Field and Demon's Souls JRPGs because it shatters the "Anime girly boy with amnesia" stereotypes they like to toss at the genre.

[QUOTE="rolo107"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Like you know what I'm thinking. I'm not going to jump on the sequel I learned my lession this gen (being a huge FF fan and being very disapointed with FFXIII). BTW if you read my other post I did state I would give the game a chance but I wasn't going to buy it when it first comes out. Selective reading is really a bad habbit to have, rolo.

jasonharris48

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] definitely not a JRPG. one of the best games this gen, but not a JRPG by any regard.

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]It's made by a Japanese dev therefor it's a JRPG.

spookykid143

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

The dialog wheel is pathetic. You have three answers which you can see the result of your choice before you choose what you want to answer.

You can pause during the combat and so what? It's nothing like Dragon Age: Origins. Enemies are weak and don't require any strategy and positioning of your party. The mage was in front line "tanking" the enemies with no problem. Also, no friendly fire means no need for tactics. The combat basically resumes to shoot everything you have at the enemies. That was the "tactic" used in all the fights showedduring the presentation.

Ugly interface.

Streamlined companion inventory.

One good thing about the game: night & day cycle. ;)

110million

Yes, its made by a Japanese dev....but it has Western RPG mechanics and artstyle. Its a Japanese WRPGtexasgoldrush

Still has the familiar Bioware Robo-animations that really bug me about RPG's these days.

Why aren't npcs ever doing something while they talk? They alway seem to turn around, stand rigidly tall, and use 3 recycled gestures to talk to you."

Edit: Also the blood all over the body thing is really stupid. Maybe not during combat, but during a conversation they should at least wipe their faces off or something. As it stands it's still pretty hard to take anyone seriously while blood is turned on.

"I can't believe it's over, all the horrible things he did are over."

"You know his innards are all over your face right?"

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"][QUOTE="jjccjj92"]

Is it true the whole game takes place in one city? That'd be a huge bummer if so...

jjccjj92

That's extremely disappointing. One of the great things about Origins was its environmental variety. Spending 40 plus hours in one area doesn't sound very appealing to me.

Still on my ignore list.

Complete removal of weapon armor customisation , horrible VA for the male character, approval ratting change, paraphrasing , stuck with one sibling in one city-class dependent, running around based on some comments during the exaggerated parts with default Hawke's ugly head...

People should have information before provoking others, and assuming that everyone has the same approach to a genre that depends so much player's idea's about flexibility, impact and customisation is plain wrong.

Never cared about the combat for example, but combat looks repetitive just flashy, and town and characters look boring and bland. Unexpected from Bioware.

So assuming that everyone is willing to deal with recycled mage robes from DAO, and king Caillan's armor recolor again from DAO, when the marketing babble was all about visual identity is wrong too.

To each his own, but thinking that hype, review's and preview's will change everyone's opinion is arrogant. The video just confirmed everything that I already knew about the game. Talking just about my self of course.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]It's made by a Japanese dev therefor it's a JRPG.

Kandlegoat

So Planescape Torment and Anachronox are JRPGs because they have Jrpg influences?..

.Are Dragon Quest 8 and White Knight Chronicles WRPGs because both take place in a Medieval Fantasy world with Knights/Swords/Sorcery/Dragons?

How about giving credit where it's due.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]Do you ever let up?

dreman999

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] definitely not a JRPG. one of the best games this gen, but not a JRPG by any regard.

110million

Also, no friendly fire means no need for tactics.

RyuRanVII

No friendly fire, not even on higher difficulties?!? Oh boy, this is gonna be an AoE fest, Positioning will now be useless. But then again, I did hear a lot of people whine about friendly fire on higher difficulties. Maroxad Disapproves (-20)

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]It's made by a Japanese dev therefor it's a JRPG.

dreman999

"I'm no fan of the genre westerners refer to as the JRPG," says Takeshi Kajii."I've always loved the dark fantasy genre, from Wizardry right through to King's Field. Yet games that assume that aesthetic these days are usually, at their heart, more like science-fiction. So my desire was to revisit this lost area of gaming, to rediscover a charismatic corner of the medium."
http://thesilentchief.com/2010/08/13/sony-computer-entertainment-producer-takeshi-kajii-is-no-fan-of-jrpgs/

If you grab the magazine, they talk briefly about how they were specifically trying to NOT make a JRPG.

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"] Also, no friendly fire means no need for tactics.

Maroxad

No friendly fire, not even on higher difficulties?!? Oh boy, this is gonna be an AoE fest, Positioning will now be useless. But then again, I did hear a lot of people whine about friendly fire on higher difficulties. Maroxad Disapproves (-20)

I think i'd rather suffer through FF XIII again than play another Dragon Age game.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"] Also, no friendly fire means no need for tactics.

svenus97

No friendly fire, not even on higher difficulties?!? Oh boy, this is gonna be an AoE fest, Positioning will now be useless. But then again, I did hear a lot of people whine about friendly fire on higher difficulties. Maroxad Disapproves (-20)

Ahh, good. Looks like I will be playing on Nightmare then. Thanks.

I think i'd rather suffer through FF XIII again than play another Dragon Age game.

demonic_85

I think i'd rather suffer through FF XIII again than play another Dragon Age game.

demonic_85

[QUOTE="demonic_85"]

I think i'd rather suffer through FF XIII again than play another Dragon Age game.

Jankarcop

What good did the multiple attack queue do you?Guppy507

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Yes, its made by a Japanese dev....but it has Western RPG mechanics and artstyle. Its a Japanese WRPGtexasgoldrush

So Planescape Torment and Anachronox are JRPGs because they have Jrpg influences?..

.Are Dragon Quest 8 and White Knight Chronicles WRPGs because both take place in a Medieval Fantasy world with Knights/Swords/Sorcery/Dragons?

How about giving credit where it's due.

So dark fantasy is exclusive to the west, and thus makes something a western RPG? That's a very shallow way of thinking, it's like saying La Maison en Pet1ts Cubes was made in France because it takes heavy inspiration from french animation.

[QUOTE="110million"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]It's made by a Japanese dev therefor it's a JRPG.

SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="110million"] You're correct! Japan = a country RPG = Role playing game. JRPG = Japanese role playing game. BAM. Basic math.

spookykid143

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"] Yes, its made by a Japanese dev....but it has Western RPG mechanics and artstyle. Its a Japanese WRPGtexasgoldrush

"I'm no fan of the genre westerners refer to as the JRPG," says Takeshi Kajii."I've always loved the dark fantasy genre, from Wizardry right through to King's Field. Yet games that assume that aesthetic these days are usually, at their heart, more like science-fiction. So my desire was to revisit this lost area of gaming, to rediscover a charismatic corner of the medium."If you grab the magazine, they talk briefly about how they were specifically trying to NOT make a JRPG.

That's not how it works, people are mistaken.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"] So what? It's still a jrpg. You can say the samething about Dragon quest.dreman999

"I'm no fan of the genre westerners refer to as the JRPG," says Takeshi Kajii."I've always loved the dark fantasy genre, from Wizardry right through to King's Field. Yet games that assume that aesthetic these days are usually, at their heart, more like science-fiction. So my desire was to revisit this lost area of gaming, to rediscover a charismatic corner of the medium."If you grab the magazine, they talk briefly about how they were specifically trying to NOT make a JRPG.

Question: why would a DA2 hater want to watch 55 minutes of it? :P

Teufelhuhn

I think I like you.... odd as that may sound, this is one of the most intelligent questions that has ever been asked on this forum. I am shocked. :P

JRPG is a genre not related to or determined by the region that the developers are from.. An American dev could make a JRPG and it would still be a JRPG. It refers to design mentalities and development decisions made in the creation of the game that have traditional resulted from the effect of Japanese culture on the interpretation of the RPG. However, just because an RPG is made by a Japanese developer does not mean that the game is automatically a JRPG. If the RPG is defined by western culture and western interpretation of the RPG(regardless of where the developer is from), then it is a WRPG not a JRPG...