History Indicates The Wii U Will Be Impressive Graphically

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#51 ChubbyGuy40
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WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

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Someone mad the Zelda tech demo smashes everything the PS3 has done, and that was a rushed job for unfinished hardware,

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#52 gamecubepad
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I'm going with 50% more powerful than current systems. Probably a 4830 in a happy meal.

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#53 jonathant5
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

ChubbyGuy40

Someone mad the Zelda tech demo smashes everything the PS3 has done, and that was a rushed job for unfinished hardware,

It would be sad if a console that is coming out 5-6 years after the X360/PS3 did not manage to look better than the games that came out on the older system... That being said, yeah atarikid is one big and biased fanboy but what can you do when some people hate a system blindly cuz they either cant afford more than one system or are so loyal to a company for absolutely no reason.

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#54 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

ChubbyGuy40

Someone mad the Zelda tech demo smashes everything the PS3 has done, and that was a rushed job for unfinished hardware,

Except it doesn't. It doesn't look any better than stuff like Uncharted 3

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#55 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

AdrianWerner

Someone mad the Zelda tech demo smashes everything the PS3 has done, and that was a rushed job for unfinished hardware,

Except it doesn't. It doesn't look any better than stuff like Uncharted 3

It doesn't look any better than all the PS3&XBOX exclusive and not exclusive games.

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#56 anshul89
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Impressive by what standards ? Sheep standards ? :lol:

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#57 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]After this....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0 ......i am not very sure for that.charizard1605
Er... that has nothing to do with Nintendo. It is a fanmade video :|

But the Wii U Wii U Wii U Wii U games on that video has to do with Nintendo.:?

Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89jRBoFU68

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#58 Crysis3Soldier
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Impressive by what standards ? Sheep standards ? :lol:

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Most sheep don't even know what HD is lol.

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#59 themagicbum9720
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

History also indicats WiiU games will look like crap next to PS4/Xbox 3 ones though

AtariKidX

WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

you realize that's fake right?
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#60 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

History also indicats WiiU games will look like crap next to PS4/Xbox 3 ones though

themagicbum9720

WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

you realize that's fake right?

Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniBUtc4Uws

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#61 Blade8Aus
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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

AtariKidX

you realize that's fake right?

Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89jRBoFU68

The one with the Arthur song isn't official.

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[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games.Did you have see the new WiiU trailer...??:|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FN5vlxzQ0

AtariKidX

you realize that's fake right?

Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniBUtc4Uws

he's not talking about the video, just that ridiclous song. :roll:

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#63 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="themagicbum9720"] you realize that's fake right?Blade8Aus

Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89jRBoFU68

The one with the Arthur song isn't official.

But the WiiU games on the video are very official.
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#64 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"] you realize that's fake right?sherlock99

Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniBUtc4Uws

he's not talking about the video, just that ridiclous song. :roll:

I was talk about the "WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games".

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#65 sherlock99
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[QUOTE="Blade8Aus"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89jRBoFU68AtariKidX

The one with the Arthur song isn't official.

But the WiiU games on the video are very official.

– You do realize it's just tech demos and not actual games :P

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#66 93BlackHawk93
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

Impressive by what standards ? Sheep standards ? :lol:

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Most sheep don't even know what HD is lol.

Yeah, let's forget how the SNES, N64 and GC were stronger than their competitors. :roll:

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#67 loosingENDS
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Will be stronger than current consoles, but not by much

PS4 and xbox 720 will be the real deal for visuals, especially since they come much later

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#68 sherlock99
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[QUOTE="sherlock99"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

Nintendo Wii U E3 2011 Official Trailer..:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniBUtc4Uws

AtariKidX

he's not talking about the video, just that ridiclous song. :roll:

I was talk about the "WiiU games they will not look better even than XBOX360/PS3 games".

so how powerful is the wii u since you know the specs?
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#69 ChubbyGuy40
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Except it doesn't. It doesn't look any better than stuff like Uncharted 3

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Except that it does, and Uncharted 3 looks liked blurred ass on my screen.

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#70 Crysis3Soldier
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[QUOTE="Crysis3Soldier"]

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

Impressive by what standards ? Sheep standards ? :lol:

93BlackHawk93

Most sheep don't even know what HD is lol.

Yeah, let's forget how the SNES, N64 and GC were stronger than their competitors. :roll:

That has nothing to do with my post. All I said was most sheep haven't experienced HD gaming. So naturally they will be hyped to get some nice looking games because they haven't seen any outside YouTube videos.

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#71 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Except it doesn't. It doesn't look any better than stuff like Uncharted 3

ChubbyGuy40

Except that it does, and Uncharted 3 looks liked blurred ass on my screen.

On your old SDTV you mean..??
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#72 sailor232
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I'm getting UC3 asap but after playing pc games maxxed I'm afraid it might look a little dated. Though as always its nice to be wrong, epsecially since I'll be paying $99 New Zealand dollars for it.

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#73 trugs26
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[QUOTE="93BlackHawk93"]

[QUOTE="Crysis3Soldier"]Most sheep don't even know what HD is lol.

Crysis3Soldier

Yeah, let's forget how the SNES, N64 and GC were stronger than their competitors. :roll:

That has nothing to do with my post. All I said was most sheep haven't experienced HD gaming. So naturally they will be hyped to get some nice looking games because they haven't seen any outside YouTube videos.



Your post was a reply to another post about standards. We can derive from your post that it has something to do with standards. Therefore what BlackHawk said does has something to do with your post.

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#74 ChubbyGuy40
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On your old SDTV you mean..??AtariKidX

Nope. On my monitor that will put your crappy 720p TV to shame.

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#75 ChubbyGuy40
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That has nothing to do with my post. All I said was most sheep haven't experienced HD gaming. So naturally they will be hyped to get some nice looking games because they haven't seen any outside YouTube videos.

Crysis3Soldier

Most cows/lems haven't either with their exclusives and multiplats being rendered under 720p resolution because they can't handle it.

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#76 Inconsistancy
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I'm going with 50% more powerful than current systems. Probably a 4830 in a happy meal.

gamecubepad
Being very generous to the current consoles and using benchmarks of a 7800gtx(which alone is a bit more powerful than what the consoles have), the 4830 is ~200% more powerful, 4850 230%, 4890 340%.. I'm assuming you meant 150%, since 50% is less powerful.
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Silly peoples everywhere. the next xbox and PS4 won't have "far superior and advanced graphics" that would leave the Wii U in the dust. You guys do know that the PS2 was the best selling console of all time right? Well, the PS3 isn't doing to well as a successor to the "best selling console of all time" in regards to sales. Hmmm... What changed? Lets see:

PS1 - Weakest console compared to competitors. Sold most units compared to competitiors.

PS2 - Weakest console compared to competitors. Sold most units compared to competitiors.

PS3 - Strongest console compared to competitiors. Sold least units compared to competitiors.

Well damn.

Now don't you think it would make more sense for a revenue based company to desire sales which would turn into profit, then to sell a system at a loss?
So wouldn't it make more sense for Sony to emulate the success of there older consoles, by not aiming for the most technologically advanced unit, which they could sell for profit?

So in essence, the biggest gap between the Wii U and PS4/ the next Xbox would be similar to the gap between the PS2 and gamecube / 360.

Oh, but i forgot, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are all people, not money loving companies, so they would do what we want, as gamers, even if that means losing money, droping stock, and going into the red. They're our friends remember!

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#78 loosingENDS
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Silly peoples everywhere. the next xbox and PS4 won't have "far superior and advanced graphics" that would leave the Wii U in the dust. You guys do know that the PS2 was the best selling console of all time right? Well, the PS3 isn't doing to well as a successor to the "best selling console of all time" in regards to sales. Hmmm... What changed? Lets see:

PS1 - Weakest console compared to competitors. Sold most units compared to competitiors.

PS2 - Weakest console compared to competitors. Sold most units compared to competitiors.

PS3 - Strongest console compared to competitiors. Sold least units compared to competitiors.

Well damn.

Now don't you think it would make more sense for a revenue based company to desire sales which would turn into profit, then to sell a system at a loss?
So wouldn't it make more sense for Sony to emulate the success of there older consoles, by not aiming for the most technologically advanced unit, which they could sell for profit?

So in essence, the biggest gap between the Wii U and PS4/ the next Xbox would be similar to the gap between the PS2 and gamecube / 360.

Oh, but i forgot, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are all people, not money loving companies, so they would do what we want, as gamers, even if that means losing money, droping stock, and going into the red. They're our friends remember!

D4W1L4H

Yes, that was the case with PS3

Though xbox 360 is a huge success and packs hardware as advanced as PS3, in fact runs games like Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 looking stunning

And is profitable for years now too

So, what reason does MS have for going underpowered ? I think they will just use the very best PC hardware at the time of release, like they did with 360 and was a huge success

And that would be far ahead of WiiU in specs

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I think they will just use the very best PC hardware at the time of release, like they did with 360 and was a huge success

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Yes because MS cares so much about their consumers they want to use brand new hardware that's in $1000 self-made PCs just so they can have another RRoD fiasco and sell the console at a loss for years, as well as paying a few billion for repairs and warranties.

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#80 Lucianu
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Okay, so we have no specs for the Wii U, we only have vague statements about its power from third parties that often contradict one another and are all over the place (the Wii U is extremely powerful; the Wii U is powerful enough to support our framework; the Wii U can do anything the Xbox 360 and the PS3 can; the Wii U is a stopgap console). Making the matter worse is the fact that first party statements themselves are contradictory (the Wii U will be competitive with next generation consoles; the Wii U will not be incredibly more powerful than the Xbox 360). This leads to unsibstantiated arguments regarding the system's power, and hence its future, and by extension, Nintendo's future.

We don't have any concrete numbers or facts to back any arguments up. What we do have, however, is precedence, which I will now use to demonstrate that the Wii U will in fact be a supremely powerful console graphically, and that even if it is the weakest system next generation, it shall be competitive (sort of like the PS2 was last gen).

How do I propose to do this? By using tech demoes of course. The fallacy that many point out in such an argument is that tech demoes are never representative of a console's power, and they often exaggerate the visual prowess of the system. Such arguments would be right, except Nintendo tech demoes never exaggerate. In fact, the tech demoes almost always look several degrees worse than the final game ever does.

The Legend of Zelda has often been used to create tech demoes that incite excitement towards the new system, and show off the prowess of the console as well.

Nintendo 64

Here is the tech demo for The Legend of Zelda 64.This is what the final game, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, really looked like. See how much better it looks than the tech demo? The demo makes my eyes bleed, it makes me want to hurl. The final game looked beautiful for its time, and still holds up today, thirteen years after its original release.

Gamecube

The Gamecube debuted with footage from a Zelda tech demo, which has become infamous for the cries of outrage and allegations of bait and switch that it incited when the actual Zelda game turned out to be The Wind Waker.Regardless, the actual demo is linked above. The final game on the Gamecube, the realistic Zelda game which can really be held to be representative of the system's power, was The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Here is what it looked like. Once again, the difference in how the original demo looks (like a highly upgraded N64 game) and how the final game looks (it managed to hold its own against HD console games in 2006) is substantial, and the tech demo again was not indicative of the system's actual power.

Wii U

To launch the Wii U, Nintendo had no games, but only vague promises of third party support and future first party games. They did, however, have loads of tech demoes.One of them stood out more than others: the Zelda tech demo. The demo looks incredible- it already grapicaly seems to be doing that would be very hard, if not outright impossible to achieve on the Xbox 360 or PS3. The fact that this entire portion of the game is rendered in engine is even more impressive. Going by the remarkable difference in the tech demoes and the final products in the past, can you even imagine what the final game will look like? And by extension, how impressive the Wii U actually has to be?

Again, it might be the weakest of the three systems next gen, but the difference will be more like the difference between the PS2 and the Xbox/Gamecube rather than the difference between the Wii and Xbox 360/PS3.

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Yeah, i thought the same thing wen i saw the similarities in these tech demos, wen the Wii U Zelda was unveiled. It's a valid point supported by history, but you're forgetting something important, Iwata stated that the 'final format' of the Wii U will be unveiled in 2012, the hardware could have ben modified aswell, no one knows what these modifications are. So it would have ben a very believeble point, but at the moment it's not on a solid base.

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#81 ChubbyGuy40
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Yeah, i thought the same thing wen i saw the similarities in these tech demos, wen the Wii U Zelda was unveiled. It's a valid point supported by history, but you're forgetting something important, Iwata stated that the 'final format' of the Wii U will be unveiled in 2012, the hardware could have ben modified aswell, no one knows what these modifications are. So it would have ben a very believeble point, but at the moment it's not on a solid base.

Lucianu

This is SW and Nintendo haters are out in full force because they fear Nintendo will not only dominate the casual, but also core console next gen. Their afraid of how much their minds will be blown with Zelda Wii-U.

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#82 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I think they will just use the very best PC hardware at the time of release, like they did with 360 and was a huge success

ChubbyGuy40

Yes because MS cares so much about their consumers they want to use brand new hardware that's in $1000 self-made PCs just so they can have another RRoD fiasco and sell the console at a loss for years, as well as paying a few billion for repairs and warranties.

Actually they did it with xbox 360, so yes, they will do it again of course, they have zero reason not to

Xbox 360 had DX10 features and pipeline before DX10 cards and unified shaders even appeared on PC market, so that would be a 1500$ video card, one that did not even exist at the time of 360 release

In any case, new systems will come years after WiiU, so by default will haqve far stronger hardware

Add the fact that WiiU has the super expensive screen with the package, which means to get a good market price they will definatly not use cutting edge PC hardware, maybe not even mid range and i think PS4/720 will be vastly more powerfull than WiiU

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#83 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Except it doesn't. It doesn't look any better than stuff like Uncharted 3

ChubbyGuy40

Except that it does, and Uncharted 3 looks liked blurred ass on my screen.

I'm sorry, but no..Zelda tech demo looks slightly sharper than Uncharted 3 indeed, but also a lot less detailed.

I don' think anyone expects anything out of WiiU except PS3 level of graphcis in higher res and with slightly better textures.

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#84 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Except it doesn't. It doesn't look any better than stuff like Uncharted 3

AdrianWerner

Except that it does, and Uncharted 3 looks liked blurred ass on my screen.

I'm sorry, but no..Zelda tech demo looks slightly sharper than Uncharted 3 indeed, but also a lot less detailed.

I don' think anyone expects anything out of WiiU except PS3 level of graphcis in higher res and with slightly better textures.

The thing is that this was a tech demo, Game Cube zelda tech demo looked 100x better than the best GC game, so it is not something i could trust

Nintendo always cheats with its tech demos

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#85 ChubbyGuy40
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Actually they did it with xbox 360, so yes, they will do it again of course, they have zero reason not to

Xbox 360 had DX10 features and pipeline before DX10 cards and unified shaders even appeared on PC market, so that would be a 1500$ video card, one that did not even exist at the time of 360 release

loosingENDS

So? They're a business. Profits are the number one concern. They are not going to make the same mistake they did with the 360. Not to mention the thing would produce more heat than a nuclear reaction and would be larger than my computer just barely have enough cooling. They have every reason not to do another 360, especially with all the casual crap they're pulling with Kinect and abandoning their core fans.

Uh, so? Only proof MS can't manage money or hardware, not that a DX10 card cost $1500 anyway. Not to mention DX10 is a horrid API also.

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#86 Lucianu
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This is SW and Nintendo haters are out in full force because they fear Nintendo will not only dominate the casual, but also core console next gen. Their afraid of how much their minds will be blown with Zelda Wii-U.

ChubbyGuy40

I'm going on a limb here saying that history will repeat itself with these fanboys every time, their going to support doom and gloom predictions wen they see the not-so-impressive launch games Wii U will have, ignoring the fact that every console in existence with one exception (the Dreamcast) had mediocre to bad launch games that barely showed what those said console could be capable of. 2-3 years after the launch, then we can judge the system wen games which will show what the system is capable of appear.

I'm sad that i have to wait another year to see this system's final form, God damn.

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#87 SecretPolice
Member since 2007 • 45667 Posts

Until it's proved otherwise and I sincerely hope that's the case; I expect 2 Wii's duct taped together with HD visuals. :P

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#88 D4W1L4H
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Silly peoples everywhere. the next xbox and PS4 won't have "far superior and advanced graphics" that would leave the Wii U in the dust. You guys do know that the PS2 was the best selling console of all time right? Well, the PS3 isn't doing to well as a successor to the "best selling console of all time" in regards to sales. Hmmm... What changed? Lets see:

PS1 - Weakest console compared to competitors. Sold most units compared to competitiors.

PS2 - Weakest console compared to competitors. Sold most units compared to competitiors.

PS3 - Strongest console compared to competitiors. Sold least units compared to competitiors.

Well damn.

Now don't you think it would make more sense for a revenue based company to desire sales which would turn into profit, then to sell a system at a loss?
So wouldn't it make more sense for Sony to emulate the success of there older consoles, by not aiming for the most technologically advanced unit, which they could sell for profit?

So in essence, the biggest gap between the Wii U and PS4/ the next Xbox would be similar to the gap between the PS2 and gamecube / 360.

Oh, but i forgot, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are all people, not money loving companies, so they would do what we want, as gamers, even if that means losing money, droping stock, and going into the red. They're our friends remember!

loosingENDS

Yes, that was the case with PS3

Though xbox 360 is a huge success and packs hardware as advanced as PS3, in fact runs games like Withcer 2 and Crysis 1-2 looking stunning

And is profitable for years now too

So, what reason does MS have for going underpowered ? I think they will just use the very best PC hardware at the time of release, like they did with 360 and was a huge success

And that would be far ahead of WiiU in specs

Oh yeah definitely. Microsoft doesn't care about losing money. They only care about how happy we are. They'll no doubt give us expensive technology for cheap prices effectively loosing billions. That'll put a smile on everyone's faces.

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#89 ChubbyGuy40
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I'm sorry, but no..Zelda tech demo looks slightly sharper than Uncharted 3 indeed, but also a lot less detailed.

I don' think anyone expects anything out of WiiU except PS3 level of graphcis in higher res and with slightly better textures.

AdrianWerner

Looks a lot more impressive than a full game to me, especially since it's a rushed job.

People have very low expectations and will be blown away by the Wii-U, especially since we've seen practically nothing and it's being constantly updated. E3 2012 will belong to Wii-U once again.

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#90 Lucianu
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I'm sorry, but no..Zelda tech demo looks slightly sharper than Uncharted 3 indeed, but also a lot less detailed.

I don' think anyone expects anything out of WiiU except PS3 level of graphcis in higher res and with slightly better textures.

AdrianWerner

I'm predicting 2 gigs of RAM and a slightly more powerful CPU than what the 360 has, though wishful thinking makes me think a quad core.

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#91 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts

The thing is that this was a tech demo, Game Cube zelda tech demo looked 100x better than the best GC game, so it is not something i could trust

Nintendo always cheats with its tech demos

loosingENDS

It's not just Nintendo. Fable's tech demo also looked far better than the final product. Heck, it looked better than even the PC version.

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#92 loosingENDS
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Actually they did it with xbox 360, so yes, they will do it again of course, they have zero reason not to

Xbox 360 had DX10 features and pipeline before DX10 cards and unified shaders even appeared on PC market, so that would be a 1500$ video card, one that did not even exist at the time of 360 release

ChubbyGuy40

So? They're a business. Profits are the number one concern. They are not going to make the same mistake they did with the 360. Not to mention the thing would produce more heat than a nuclear reaction and would be larger than my computer just barely have enough cooling. They have every reason not to do another 360, especially with all the casual crap they're pulling with Kinect and abandoning their core fans.

Uh, so? Only proof MS can't manage money or hardware, not that a DX10 card cost $1500 anyway. Not to mention DX10 is a horrid API also.

But 360 was a huge success, surpassed xbox by 3 times and is still the best selling US system by miles

What mistake did they make ?

For sure they will follow the same route with 720, best hardware possible at the time of release

Also their "casual crap" are actually hardcore games like Project Draco, Ryse and Fable JOurney

In fact for Fable Journey they are using a far better than Fable engine, Unreal engine

Ryse from Crytek could be the best looking game this generation too

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#93 ChubbyGuy40
Member since 2007 • 26442 Posts

I'm predicting 2 gigs of RAM and a slightly more powerful CPU than what the 360 has, though wishful thinking makes me think a quad core.

Lucianu

It'll be way more powerful. It may be a tri-core still, but remember that's a 2005 CPU compared to a 2011 CPU. That's like comparing a Pentium D to an i3-2100. :P

The thing is that this was a tech demo, Game Cube zelda tech demo looked 100x better than the best GC game, so it is not something i could trust

Nintendo always cheats with its tech demos

loosingENDS

Gamecube zelda tech demo is so overrated. Twilight princess put it to shame, and so did Resident Evil 4.

Nintendo always cheats? KILLZONE 2 CGI TRAILER. Nintendo never cheats with their tech demos :lol:

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#94 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts

especially since it's a rushed job.

ChubbyGuy40

Which usually means it will look worse in final game

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#95 shinrabanshou
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Again, while I'm sure the Wii U will be more technically powerful than the PS360, even if purely by virtue of being newer technology; the Zelda Wii U tech demo is not that technically impressive.

It was running at 30 fps, 720p native resolution, with no anti-aliasing. It's the art style and lovely assets that Nintendo has put to use in the demo that make it visually very pretty.

It is nothing that couldn't be replicated on the PS360.

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#96 loosingENDS
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Looks a lot more impressive than a full game to me, especially since it's a rushed job.

People have very low expectations and will be blown away by the Wii-U, especially since we've seen practically nothing and it's being constantly updated. E3 2012 will belong to Wii-U once again.

ChubbyGuy40

I would be blown away if they had a real WiiU Zelda at launch and not just a tech demo

Also having only 3 games for my Wii all those years, tells me that will take much to be blown away by WiiU game library as well

In general, WiiU seems like a no buy to me until it gets a new Zelda in 3-4 years

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#97 ChubbyGuy40
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But 360 was a huge success, surpassed xbox by 3 times and is still the best selling US system by miles

What mistake did they make ?

For sure they will follow the same route with 720, best hardware possible at the time of release

Also their "casual crap" are actually hardcore games like Project Draco, Ryse and Fable JOurney

In fact for Fable Journey they are using a far better than Fable engine, Unreal engine

Ryse from Crytek could be the best looking game this generation too

loosingENDS

Xbox only sold because of XBL and Halo. Wii sold more.

RRoD, selling at a loss, and multiple hardware revisions before finally getting it right.

That simply won't be possible, so no.

Those games are casual crap. Sorry, but your pitiful little camera will never provide core games.

That won't stop them from developing a *****y game.

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The fact that you think your puny little console can even match a game from 2007 makes me lol hard.

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#98 ChubbyGuy40
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It was running at 30 fps, 720p native resolution, with no anti-aliasing.

It is nothing that couldn't be replicated on the PS360.

shinrabanshou

Who's to say it couldn't be pushed higher than that? I still question how they figured that out from a compressed stream.

We don't know that for sure. Consoles seem to struggle with anything that isn't a corridor level.

Which usually means it will look worse in final game

AdrianWerner

Certainly wasn't true for the last 3 generations for Nintendo.

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#99 loosingENDS
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Again, while I'm sure the Wii U will be more technically powerful than the PS360, even if purely by virtue of being newer technology; the Zelda Wii U tech demo is not that technically impressive.

It was running at 30 fps, 720p native resolution, with no anti-aliasing.

It is nothing that couldn't be replicated on the PS360.

shinrabanshou

Indeed, especially since it was just a tech demo

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#100 ChubbyGuy40
Member since 2007 • 26442 Posts

Indeed, especially since it was just a tech demo

loosingENDS

At least we know it can't get worse than that, unlike tech demos from Sony or Microsoft.