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#1 navyguy21
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Hey guys, just sharing info as usual, so sorry if old. I came across this, and it makes alot of sense, people flock to halo like they did to star wars back in the day. This is an interview with the writer and producer of the "Pirates of the Carribbean" movies, who thinks Halo is like our generations "Star Wars" Now i know you might not like the game, but this article, and thread is not about that. Do you think Halo is as popular in our generation, as Star Wars was in the 70s and 80s?? If not, what would you consider the "star wars of our gen"?? (PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE FIRST, THAT WAY YOU DONT EMBARASS YOURSELF :P )

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"To anyone who hasn't logged onto Xbox Live to fight multiplayer battles as Master Chief, Beattie explained his obsession with the source material. "It's massive," he said. "It's like our generation's Star Wars. The whole Halo nation that's out there, and a 100,000-year history of the Halo universe, it's just breathtaking and so much fun to play in that sandbox. I've read every book, played every game, every graphic novel. It's just a fun world to be in."

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#2 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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We need a Halo movie, damn it.
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mmm if he's tryin to get a Halo movie done, he should look at Halo Wars' cinematics as how to do it properly; No live action or it will be terrible and cheesy. CGI or leave it alone.
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People skip mass effect so easily. But don't you think he is just saying this to hype the movie?

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Star Wars was a cultural phenomenon that came out of nowhere and left an indelible mark on society. I don't think Halo is at that point now and I don't think a Halo movie is going to propel it anywhere near the mythical level Star Wars reached.
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We need a Halo movie, damn it.Stevo_the_gamer
Yeah they should so they can butcher it like every other game to movie. Halo doesnt have the impact the Star Wars had in its time. Star Wars Visuals still astound me today and the movie is from the 70's -80's. Halo is just Trash wrap.
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Saying Halo is on the same level as Star Wars is the same thing as saying Hannah Montana is as big as The Beatles.

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he said 'Of our generation", as in the closest thing we have to a sci-fi epic saga, and i kinda agree. No one is saying its bigger than, or on the same level as star wars, so chill out. And like i stated in the topic, if you disagree, what do you think is worthy of that praise??
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Yeah they should so they can butcher it like every other game to movie. Halo doesnt have the impact the Star Wars had in its time. Star Wars Visuals still astound me today and the movie is from the 70's -80's. Halo is just Trash wrap.Rza_rectah
Butcher it. :| You obviously didn't follow the process of the Halo movie when it was in the process of going to development. Bungie had to approve the script, and would look over it. Peter Jackson and Neil would be in control, both of which are big Halo fans. Butcher it? What a joke. The Halo movie was in great hands, it fell through because it was too expensive for Fox and Universal. The dumbasses. I thought Halo 3's launch (making 300 million in a day?) would spur interest in the movie, sadly, it did not.
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Blasphemy!!! Comparing Halo to Star Wars.... SW was a success because it was an awesome saga. Halo is a success because of extreme Hype and the fact that the original Halo was the only decent game on the Xbox at that time. Halo takes components from previous FPS to form an average FPS with a weak story and generic main character, it's not revolutionary in any regard.
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I think that should go to Mass Effect. That is a sci-fi epic of this geniration. It actually has deep characters and deep story. Even a tiny bit of redemption depending on the path you went. Im talking about sarren(i think thats how you spell it) in case some of you didint know.

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We need a Halo movie, damn it.Stevo_the_gamer
video games movies are terrible, look at the list of crappy video games movis.

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]Yeah they should so they can butcher it like every other game to movie. Halo doesnt have the impact the Star Wars had in its time. Star Wars Visuals still astound me today and the movie is from the 70's -80's. Halo is just Trash wrap.Stevo_the_gamer
Butcher it. :| You obviously didn't follow the process of the Halo movie when it was in the process of going to development. Bungie had to approve the script, and would look over it. Peter Jackson and Neil would be in control, both of which are big Halo fans. Butcher it? What a joke. The Halo movie was in great hands, it fell through because it was too expensive for Fox and Universal. The dumbasses. I thought Halo 3's launch (making 300 million in a day?) would spur interest in the movie, sadly, it did not.

Game to Movie Adaptations are usually bad. I can count the good ones on one hand. FF 7 Advent children, Mortal Kombat 1, Hitman, Street Fighter: Alpha thats all i can think of. Everything else is not worth mention. But with names you mentioned it does sound like it would have made a good blockbuster movie. Peter alone would have made it a good movie. Another thing even if the movie turned out bad the fans would not admit to that and thats a fact.
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I think that should go to Mass Effect. That is a sci-fi epic of this geniration. It actually has deep characters and deep story.

finalfantasy94
Yeah, when comparing the games -- comparing the Universes as a whole. And the Halo Universe greatly outshines Mass Effect. ;)
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Saying Halo is on the same level as Star Wars is the same thing as saying Hannah Montana is as big as The Beatles.

navyguy21
he said 'Of our generation", as in the closest thing we have to a sci-fi epic saga, and i kinda agree. No one is saying its bigger than, or on the same level as star wars, so chill out. And like i stated in the topic, if you disagree, what do you think is worthy of that praise??

I'm not sure if there's anything on the same level as Star Wars from the current generation, but there are certainly sci fi sagas more recognizable and influential than Halo. I guess something comparable would be The Matrix.
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I think that should go to Mass Effect. That is a sci-fi epic of this geniration. It actually has deep characters and deep story. Even a tiny bit of redemption depending on the path you went. Im talking about sarren(i think thats how you spell it) in case some of you didint know.

finalfantasy94
that would make much more sense but he is talking about icons, success, cult followings. Halo is just overratted. I'd say Harry potter or LOTR would be comparions to Star Wars NOT halo. Those movies may not be Sci fi but they are huge blockbusters like star wars.
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Saying Halo is on the same level as Star Wars is the same thing as saying Hannah Montana is as big as The Beatles.

supercubedude64

he said 'Of our generation", as in the closest thing we have to a sci-fi epic saga, and i kinda agree. No one is saying its bigger than, or on the same level as star wars, so chill out. And like i stated in the topic, if you disagree, what do you think is worthy of that praise??

I'm not sure if there's anything on the same level as Star Wars from the current generation, but there are certainly sci fi sagas more recognizable and influential than Halo. I guess something comparable would be The Matrix.

I'm not sure about that either, but hey!! he's entitled to his own opinion as much as those who don't agree with that guy.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I think that should go to Mass Effect. That is a sci-fi epic of this geniration. It actually has deep characters and deep story.

Stevo_the_gamer

Yeah, when comparing the games -- comparing the Universes as a whole. And the Halo Universe greatly outshines Mass Effect. ;)

Meh when I compare stories and characters in a game thats what I use for my source of judgement.THe game world.If you cant grip me with the main source of the material then when should I bother reading novels. Thats like if star wars 4-6 was crap movies,but they were like "wait wait wait read this novel about what happens afterwards" I wouldn't bother. If you cant give me the deep story or even deep characters from the source material and expect me to read a novel to get that then you fail. Unless the novel is where it all started then thats a different story.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I think that should go to Mass Effect. That is a sci-fi epic of this geniration. It actually has deep characters and deep story. Even a tiny bit of redemption depending on the path you went. Im talking about sarren(i think thats how you spell it) in case some of you didint know.

Rza_rectah
that would make much more sense but he is talking about icons, success, cult followings. Halo is just overratted. I'd say Harry potter or LOTR would be comparions to Star Wars NOT halo. Those movies may not be Sci fi but they are huge blockbusters like star wars.

To young to remember the Halo 2 hype and launch? Halo 3 Couldn't even touch it, If Halo 2 had of been amazing then their is no doubt in my mind it would be just as big as Harry Potter or LOTR.
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Nah, WiiFit is the Star Wars of gaming.
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Star Wars was a cultural phenomenon that came out of nowhere and left an indelible mark on society. I don't think Halo is at that point now and I don't think a Halo movie is going to propel it anywhere near the mythical level Star Wars reached.supercubedude64
When Star Wars came out, sure there had been sci fi films before it. But nothing grabbed people's imaginations like it before it. Sure there were FPS games before Halo, some argue better games, doesn't matter. None seem to have grabbed the imagination of the general audience like Halo has. Writers were inspired to create from the source material, and it has expanded incredibly. I've read Star Wars books, and Halo books, and loved them. A Halo film could end the love affair or turn into a pop culture phenom. I believe those involved would like to make sure it's not just a cash in, but possibly a good film.
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mmm if he's tryin to get a Halo movie done, he should look at Halo Wars' cinematics as how to do it properly; No live action or it will be terrible and cheesy. CGI or leave it alone.DeadMagazines
these are exactly my thoughts... the cutscenes in HW were incredible...
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Would love to see a Halo movie on a separate note, i would love to see a squad of spartans take down a scarab:D
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I don't see Halo being anywhere near the worldwide popularity of Star Wars.
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I think that should go to Mass Effect. That is a sci-fi epic of this geniration. It actually has deep characters and deep story. Even a tiny bit of redemption depending on the path you went. Im talking about sarren(i think thats how you spell it) in case some of you didint know.

walkingdream

that would make much more sense but he is talking about icons, success, cult followings. Halo is just overratted. I'd say Harry potter or LOTR would be comparions to Star Wars NOT halo. Those movies may not be Sci fi but they are huge blockbusters like star wars.

To young to remember the Halo 2 hype and launch? Halo 3 Couldn't even touch it, If Halo 2 had of been amazing then their is no doubt in my mind it would be just as big as Harry Potter or LOTR.

I dont really get what you are trying to say. Im 22 i remember halo 2 like it was yesterday back in 04. GTA:SA out shined that game heavily.

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No, just no.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]We need a Halo movie, damn it.Pandajerk29

video games movies are terrible, look at the list of crappy video games movis.

I am sorry but the Mario Bros movie was awesome. The other two not so much, but did think Silent Hill did good.
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Nah, WiiFit is the Star Wars of gaming.IronBass
he doesn't mean in terms of sales. he means in terms of rich lore/sci fi adventure feel etc. Wii-fit is the Total Gym of gaming, not Star Wars.
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#31 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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he means in terms of rich lore/sci fi adventure feel etc. jg4xchamp

That's exactly why WiiFit is the Star wars of gaming :P

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] he means in terms of rich lore/sci fi adventure feel etc. IronBass
Exactly! WiiFit is the Star Wars of gaming.

that better have been sarcasm :|
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Halo is def. the popular sci-fi universe of this generation. I'm not sure about its influence or quality besting Star Wars though.
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] that would make much more sense but he is talking about icons, success, cult followings. Halo is just overratted. I'd say Harry potter or LOTR would be comparions to Star Wars NOT halo. Those movies may not be Sci fi but they are huge blockbusters like star wars.Rza_rectah

To young to remember the Halo 2 hype and launch? Halo 3 Couldn't even touch it, If Halo 2 had of been amazing then their is no doubt in my mind it would be just as big as Harry Potter or LOTR.

I dont really get what you are trying to say. Im 22 i remember halo 2 like it was yesterday back in 04. GTA:SA out shined that game heavily.

Yet it held the Record for the most copies sold in 24 hours and biggest pre orders ever in the industry of entertainment.......that is till Halo 3 came along, and made more money but sold less in the 24 hour period.

Your joking right? The only reason GTA sold more is due to it being on many more platforms......Stop Hating on Halo just because you can! I'm a PC Gamer to but it just flicks my switch when people decide to Randomly yell HALO IS OVERRATED for no apparent reason other than hoping to dull it's popularity. Sigh....so sick of Halo Haters....

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that better have been sarcasm :|jg4xchamp
Yes, yes it was.
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[QUOTE="Pandajerk29"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]We need a Halo movie, damn it.ArisShadows

video games movies are terrible, look at the list of crappy video games movis.

I am sorry but the Mario Bros movie was awesome. The other two not so much, but did think Silent Hill did good.

:o

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Game based movies that were good (IMO):

Mortal Kombat (pt 1)

Street Fighter... (the animated movie lol)

Silent Hill

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I think that should go to Mass Effect. That is a sci-fi epic of this geniration. It actually has deep characters and deep story. Even a tiny bit of redemption depending on the path you went. Im talking about sarren(i think thats how you spell it) in case some of you didint know.

finalfantasy94
As far as quality and lore, hell yeah. But the popularity of Halo is unmatched.
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

To young to remember the Halo 2 hype and launch? Halo 3 Couldn't even touch it, If Halo 2 had of been amazing then their is no doubt in my mind it would be just as big as Harry Potter or LOTR.walkingdream
I dont really get what you are trying to say. Im 22 i remember halo 2 like it was yesterday back in 04. GTA:SA out shined that game heavily.

Yet it held the Record for the most copies sold in 24 hours and biggest pre orders ever in the industry entertainment.......that is till Halo 3 came along, and made more money but sold less in the 24 hour period. Your joking right? The only reason GTA sold more is due to it being on many more platforms......Stop Hating on Halo just because you can! I'm a PC Gamer to but it just flicks my switch when people decide to Randomly yell HALO IS OVERRATED for no apparent reason other than hoping to dull it's popularity. Sigh....so sick of Halo Haters....

My reasons are apparent since i played the game and I think there are far better games out there. GTA: was released on the ps 2 as a timed exclusive. much more people anticipated that game at launch than Halo 2. I can Hate any game i choose if i dont like but some one else screams its the best thing ever i have a right to voice my opinion and you cant silence it.
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#40 Episode_Eve
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Game based movies that were good (IMO):

Mortal Kombat (pt 1)

Street Fighter... (the animated movie lol)

Silent Hill

GreenGoblin2099
SH was pretty good and I actually like MK a lot! I thought you were referring to Legend of Chun-Li LMAO, that movie is horrendously awesome. The animated SF movies don't count since they're not Hollywood attempts at cash-ins. They're good though.
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Saying Halo is on the same level as Star Wars is the same thing as saying Hannah Montana is as big as The Beatles.

supercubedude64

he said 'Of our generation", as in the closest thing we have to a sci-fi epic saga, and i kinda agree. No one is saying its bigger than, or on the same level as star wars, so chill out. And like i stated in the topic, if you disagree, what do you think is worthy of that praise??

I'm not sure if there's anything on the same level as Star Wars from the current generation, but there are certainly sci fi sagas more recognizable and influential than Halo. I guess something comparable would be The Matrix.

I don't consider the Matrix really the same as Star Wars. Sure, they're both Sci-fi, but one's a straight up space opera, and the other's a science fiction adventure film with some philosphical elements. They're like apples and oranges.

But in terms of the overall context of its respective subgenre, I feel this person is right to some degree. I mean, has there been something as big and prominent as Halo (that is to say in the space faring Star Trek-esque genre of sci-fi this generation?

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#42 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Game based movies that were good (IMO):

Mortal Kombat (pt 1)

Street Fighter... (the animated movie lol)

Silent Hill

SH was pretty good and I actually like MK a lot! I thought you were referring to Legend of Chun-Li LMAO, that movie is horrendously awesome. The animated SF movies don't count since they're not Hollywood attempts at cash-ins. They're good though.

oh yeah i forgot i had Silent hill thats a sick movie.
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] I dont really get what you are trying to say. Im 22 i remember halo 2 like it was yesterday back in 04. GTA:SA out shined that game heavily.

Rza_rectah

Yet it held the Record for the most copies sold in 24 hours and biggest pre orders ever in the industry entertainment.......that is till Halo 3 came along, and made more money but sold less in the 24 hour period. Your joking right? The only reason GTA sold more is due to it being on many more platforms......Stop Hating on Halo just because you can! I'm a PC Gamer to but it just flicks my switch when people decide to Randomly yell HALO IS OVERRATED for no apparent reason other than hoping to dull it's popularity. Sigh....so sick of Halo Haters....

My reasons are apparent since i played the game and I think there are far better games out there. GTA: was released on the ps 2 as a timed exclusive. much more people anticipated that game at launch than Halo 2. I can Hate any game i choose if i dont like but some one else screams its the best thing ever i have a right to voice my opinion and you cant silence it.

Your joking right? I just put out facts and figures and that's all you have? Halo 2 WAS FAR MORE ANTICPATED THEN GTA Midnight Launches all over the world and everything....... Seriously...your Joking right? Oh and does it matter if it's a timed exclusive? still had 2 more systems to sell on to effect overall sales.

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#44 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="walkingdream"] Yet it held the Record for the most copies sold in 24 hours and biggest pre orders ever in the industry entertainment.......that is till Halo 3 came along, and made more money but sold less in the 24 hour period. Your joking right? The only reason GTA sold more is due to it being on many more platforms......Stop Hating on Halo just because you can! I'm a PC Gamer to but it just flicks my switch when people decide to Randomly yell HALO IS OVERRATED for no apparent reason other than hoping to dull it's popularity. Sigh....so sick of Halo Haters....walkingdream

My reasons are apparent since i played the game and I think there are far better games out there. GTA: was released on the ps 2 as a timed exclusive. much more people anticipated that game at launch than Halo 2. I can Hate any game i choose if i dont like but some one else screams its the best thing ever i have a right to voice my opinion and you cant silence it.

Your joking right? I just put out facts and figures and that's all you have? Halo 2 WAS FAR MORE ANTICPATED THEN GTA Midnight Launches all over the world and everything....... Seriously...your Joking right? Oh and does it matter if it's a timed exclusive? still had 2 more systems to sell on to effect overall sales.

I justed checked and GTA sold more in its first week then Halo 2 did....

and 17 millionGTA: SA copies vs 8 million halo copies.....

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#45 darth-pyschosis
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No. The best bet for "Star Wars of this generation" is Harry Potter. Good series, good stories, same basic SW formula.

Infact, HP's plot is much better than the SW movies, and i love SW.

Halo is a big video game, but it no where near has the same cultural signifigance of SW, HP, or others. I mean Deathly Hallows sold like 11 million copies in 24 hours. At least Harry Potter also gets people reading. HP also has a much better plot than Halo, but they shouldn't even be compared really. HP is more epic, and drawn out than a 4hour single player campaign really can be.

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#46 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] My reasons are apparent since i played the game and I think there are far better games out there. GTA: was released on the ps 2 as a timed exclusive. much more people anticipated that game at launch than Halo 2. I can Hate any game i choose if i dont like but some one else screams its the best thing ever i have a right to voice my opinion and you cant silence it.Rza_rectah

Your joking right? I just put out facts and figures and that's all you have? Halo 2 WAS FAR MORE ANTICPATED THEN GTA Midnight Launches all over the world and everything....... Seriously...your Joking right? Oh and does it matter if it's a timed exclusive? still had 2 more systems to sell on to effect overall sales.

I justed checked and GTA sold more in its first week then Halo 2 did.... and 17GTA:SAcopies vs 8 million halo copies.....

IT HAD 2 More platforms!!! How hard is that to understand? plus the PS2 had a massive advantage in selling over time compare the Install base for eg 100 million Install base vs 20 Million install base...... Explain the 24 Hour Sales then which Anticipation is all about! GTA didn't come within 3 miles of Halo 2
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#47 Rza_rectah
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the figures i poseted were for the ps 2 alonenot combined.

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#48 nintendoman562
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]We need a Halo movie, damn it.Pandajerk29

video games movies are terrible, look at the list of crappy video games movis.

Unwritten rule: You never bring up the Super Mario Bros movie, it never existed.

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#49 CleanPlayer
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Halo lacks a proper story for it to be in the same league as Star Wars. Plus, we haven't had a cultural phenomenom videogame in ages.
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#50 Episode_Eve
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No. The best bet for "Star Wars of this generation" is Harry Potter. Good series, good stories, same basic SW formula.

Infact, HP's plot is much better than the SW movies, and i love SW.

Halo is a big video game, but it no where near has the same cultural signifigance of SW, HP, or others. I mean Deathly Hallows sold like 11 million copies in 24 hours. At least Harry Potter also gets people reading. HP also has a much better plot than Halo, but they shouldn't even be compared really. HP is more epic, and drawn out than a 4hour single player campaign really can be.

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That's a great point and makes sense. I was only looking at it as sci-fi and space. The cultural influence of HR as a property is huge.