Home is a rippoff (56k)

I fail to see how something can be a "rippoff" if its free and please...Virtual Laguna Beach? If I want to talk with a bunch of vain *****es I already know of plenty that live near where I do.

Regarding Second Life..have fun getting spammed with, "cyber?", "a/s/l", and watching all the flying *****es go by.

Runningflame570

Well actually There isnt virtual laguna beach but Mtv did use the same engine for there games as There used they actually asked the dev team of there if they could use there engine for the laguna beach game.  

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I could care less about Home. I'd rather be seeing full fledged GAMES.Vandalvideo

Listen here you PC gamer. Just because you have the internet on locked doesn't mean you can dish Home. You better start caring about it because Home will be just as great as your PC internet services.

So "Real Life" excludes 3d chat rooms? explain? 

I fail to see how something can be a "rippoff" if its free and please...Virtual Laguna Beach? If I want to talk with a bunch of vain *****es I already know of plenty that live near where I do.

Regarding Second Life..have fun getting spammed with, "cyber?", "a/s/l", and watching all the flying *****es go by.

Runningflame570

sigh, you still need the 600$ hardware.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I could care less about Home. I'd rather be seeing full fledged GAMES.shungokustasu

Listen here you PC gamer. Just because you have the internet on locked doesn't mean you can dish Home. You better start caring about it because Home will be just as great as your PC internet services.

So "Real Life" excludes 3d chat rooms? explain? 

And for god's sake, don't be so quick to use the word rip-off. If you go by that, everything's a rip-off these days. Even this very forum, cause I'm sure it's been done before elsewhere. :rolleyes:

Nightflash28

Yep, way back in ARPANET there was something similar to VoIP and the first system that you could probably call a message board was made back in 1973.

sigh, you still need the 600$ hardware.

demoralizer

You don't on PC for Second Life? Its a fairly demanding application and well..There, looks extremely primative and I'm sure it has limited membership.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I could care less about Home. I'd rather be seeing full fledged GAMES.Vandalvideo

Listen here you PC gamer. Just because you have the internet on locked doesn't mean you can dish Home. You better start caring about it because Home will be just as great as your PC internet services.

So "Real Life" excludes 3d chat rooms? explain?

ah...I see. Wanna go Sigmund Freud on me? Fine then, Why do you play video games?  

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I could care less about Home. I'd rather be seeing full fledged GAMES.Vandalvideo

Listen here you PC gamer. Just because you have the internet on locked doesn't mean you can dish Home. You better start caring about it because Home will be just as great as your PC internet services.

So "Real Life" excludes 3d chat rooms? explain?

thats true but these kind of games are part of the CyberPunk Movement 

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

.I see. Wanna go Sigmund Freud on me? Fine then, Why do you play video games?  shungokustasu

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

springz300

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"].I see. Wanna go Sigmund Freud on me? Fine then, Why do you play video games? Vandalvideo

Actually, I was gonna post that about you on video gaming, but it seem you in denial saying you only play them for fun. Being a PC gamer, I find that hard to believe. It's the niche gamers that are hardcore... 

Great job pointing out the obvious.  Yes Home is taking the idea of 3d chat, and expanding on it to make it better.  Guess what?! It's not the first time a good idea has been expanded on!  Everyone and everything is guilty of copying a good idea.  Automotive company's, Jeweler's, and Fast food chains, just as examples, have been copying each other for decades!  So, Suck it Up and DEAL!  Stop calling Home out on it's repeat of a good idea unless you start calling everyone and everything else out

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"].I see. Wanna go Sigmund Freud on me? Fine then, Why do you play video games? shungokustasu

[QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

ParadiddleFill

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc 

It's hard to be a rip-off when it's free......but yes, it's nothing huge. Well, it might be compared to the PS3's current library....MegaPigeon

Well it depends on if you buy the premium content like the pool tables and stuff for your house, if Im not mistaken those cost a bit of money. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Actually, I was gonna post that about you on video gaming, but it seem you in denial saying you only play them for fun. Being a PC gamer, I find that hard to believe. It's the niche gamers that are hardcore... Vandalvideo

lol, this is sig worthy. Man, you have no idea how deep are in it do you? 

Does this place give you or own "home", does it let you player arcade games, bowling, etc. Does it it let you form clans that you can play games with?(directly join mutliplayer from home) Can you share your own videos and music as easily as you can with home? Plus, (as you mentioned) home doesn't look like a ps1 game...

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]It's hard to be a rip-off when it's free......but yes, it's nothing huge. Well, it might be compared to the PS3's current library....justforlotr2004

Well it depends on if you buy the premium content like the pool tables and stuff for your house, if Im not mistaken those cost a bit of money. 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Actually, I was gonna post that about you on video gaming, but it seem you in denial saying you only play them for fun. Being a PC gamer, I find that hard to believe. It's the niche gamers that are hardcore... shungokustasu

lol, this is sig worthy. Man, you have no idea how deep are in it do you? 

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]It's hard to be a rip-off when it's free......but yes, it's nothing huge. Well, it might be compared to the PS3's current library....dmaximum

Well it depends on if you buy the premium content like the pool tables and stuff for your house, if Im not mistaken those cost a bit of money.

you also need to pay for extra clothes in second life you get it for free or you can create your own clothes and iteams for example you can buys guns and swords in second life  

[QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

ParadiddleFill

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

So you mean that hardcore PC gamers have to pay more than 1000 bucks for Second Life? ZOMG, TEH MILKAGE!

Seriously, poor reasoning. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Actually, I was gonna post that about you on video gaming, but it seem you in denial saying you only play them for fun. Being a PC gamer, I find that hard to believe. It's the niche gamers that are hardcore... Vandalvideo

lol, this is sig worthy. Man, you have no idea how deep are in it do you?

Your last two post prove to me that you just past that fine line between fun and addiction. 

[QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

ParadiddleFill

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life. 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Actually, I was gonna post that about you on video gaming, but it seem you in denial saying you only play them for fun. Being a PC gamer, I find that hard to believe. It's the niche gamers that are hardcore... shungokustasu

lol, this is sig worthy. Man, you have no idea how deep are in it do you?

Your last two post prove to me that you just past that fine line between fun and addiction. 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

purplemidgets

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life.

im pretty sure most people own pcs  

 

im pretty sure most people own pcs

ParadiddleFill

You still have to have bought a PC to play There and Second Life.

[QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

ParadiddleFill

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life.

im pretty sure most people own pcs  

Yes, but you can't play second life or there without a PC.  Same with Home, you can't use it without a PS3.  However you are not paying for second life or there by buying a PC and your not paying for Home by buying a PS3.  He was using simple point counter point logic, and it works since the original arguement is flawed

[QUOTE="Onizuka36"]Are you actually complaining about HOME? Of course it has been done before. so what? It's a coo, service and it's FREEParadiddleFill

There is free as well so is second life 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

 

im pretty sure most people own pcs

purplemidgets

You still have to have bought a PC to play There and Second Life.

yes but since most people have pcs they can already play better virtual worlds like There and Second Life without spending 600 to play home 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

chaos-SD

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life.

im pretty sure most people own pcs  

Yes, but you can't play second life or there without a PC.  Same with Home, you can't use it without a PS3.  However you are not paying for second life or there by buying a PC and your not paying for Home by buying a PS3.  He was using simple point counter point logic, and it works since the original arguement is flawed

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[QUOTE="Onizuka36"]Are you actually complaining about HOME? Of course it has been done before. so what? It's a coo, service and it's FREEBluestorm-Kalas

There is free as well so is second life

haha i dont blame you 

[QUOTE="chaos-SD"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

Bluestorm-Kalas

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life.

im pretty sure most people own pcs

Yes, but you can't play second life or there without a PC. Same with Home, you can't use it without a PS3. However you are not paying for second life or there by buying a PC and your not paying for Home by buying a PS3. He was using simple point counter point logic, and it works since the original arguement is flawed

not really my point was that since most people own pcs they dont need to spend 600 dollars to play home when they can play better virtual chatrooms for free without spending the extra money on a ps3 

[QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="chaos-SD"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

ParadiddleFill

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life.

im pretty sure most people own pcs

Yes, but you can't play second life or there without a PC. Same with Home, you can't use it without a PS3. However you are not paying for second life or there by buying a PC and your not paying for Home by buying a PS3. He was using simple point counter point logic, and it works since the original arguement is flawed

not really my point was that since most people own pcs they dont need to spend 600 dollars to play home when they can play better virtual chatrooms for free without spending the extra money on a ps3 

Wrong.  Consumers pay 600 dollars for the playstation game/entertainment console.  Home is an online service that comes with the PS3 that is free.  Just like Second life and There can be used if one owns a PC and one cannot use those without owning a PC.  It does not matter that most people own a PC.  Everyone has to purchase a PC to own a PC, everyone has to purchase a PS3 to own a PS3, there is no if's and's or but's.  Also there is nothing proving these chatroom's are better or worse.  Home is not even out yet, so there is nothing to compare. 

[QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

 

im pretty sure most people own pcs

ParadiddleFill

You still have to have bought a PC to play There and Second Life.

yes but since most people have pcs they can already play better virtual worlds like There and Second Life without spending 600 to play home

Calling it a "better" virtual worlds is pushing it. Home isn't trying to a virtual world, it's trying to be bring together a community of gamers. I've heard from people who were beta testing home that it's not that fun and realized that home isn't suppose to be "fun" in itself. It's like XBL, you actually need many other people that you can play actual games with before it get's "fun". And when you have these people (~1 million instead of ~15,000 that are in the home beat now) It could possibly even better than XBL  (you can't join multiplayer games just yet with the home beta) Plus, I don't have to spend $800+ to play second life :)

Are you actually complaining about HOME? Of course it has been done before. so what? It's a cool, service and it's FREEOnizuka36

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="chaos-SD"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

chaos-SD

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life.

im pretty sure most people own pcs

Yes, but you can't play second life or there without a PC. Same with Home, you can't use it without a PS3. However you are not paying for second life or there by buying a PC and your not paying for Home by buying a PS3. He was using simple point counter point logic, and it works since the original arguement is flawed

not really my point was that since most people own pcs they dont need to spend 600 dollars to play home when they can play better virtual chatrooms for free without spending the extra money on a ps3

Wrong. Consumers pay 600 dollars for the playstation game/entertainment console. Home is an online service that comes with the PS3 that is free. Just like Second life and There can be used if one owns a PC and one cannot use those without owning a PC. It does not matter that most people own a PC. Everyone has to purchase a PC to own a PC, everyone has to purchase a PS3 to own a PS3, there is no if's and's or but's. Also there is nothing proving these chatroom's are better or worse. Home is not even out yet, so there is nothing to compare.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="chaos-SD"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="springz300"]

If sony was charging for home i could understand your argument.

 

But since they aren't, go back into your hole

chaos-SD

well they are charging for it 600 dollars to play when you can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life for free on you pc

You have to buy a PC to play There and Second Life.

im pretty sure most people own pcs

Yes, but you can't play second life or there without a PC. Same with Home, you can't use it without a PS3. However you are not paying for second life or there by buying a PC and your not paying for Home by buying a PS3. He was using simple point counter point logic, and it works since the original arguement is flawed

not really my point was that since most people own pcs they dont need to spend 600 dollars to play home when they can play better virtual chatrooms for free without spending the extra money on a ps3

Wrong. Consumers pay 600 dollars for the playstation game/entertainment console. Home is an online service that comes with the PS3 that is free. Just like Second life and There can be used if one owns a PC and one cannot use those without owning a PC. It does not matter that most people own a PC. Everyone has to purchase a PC to own a PC, everyone has to purchase a PS3 to own a PS3, there is no if's and's or but's. Also there is nothing proving these chatroom's are better or worse. Home is not even out yet, so there is nothing to compare.

you still dont get what im trying to say who would pay an extra 600 dollars when they already have a pc that can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life and yes these worlds are better due to the fact that you can create your own lands and iteams without paying for premade iteams. Not to mention Second Life has its own economy and real estate and actual virtual colleges where you can go te hear lectures.  

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

 

im pretty sure most people own pcs

munu9

You still have to have bought a PC to play There and Second Life.

yes but since most people have pcs they can already play better virtual worlds like There and Second Life without spending 600 to play home

Calling it a "better" virtual worlds is pushing it. Home isn't trying to a virtual world, it's trying to be bring together a community of gamers. I've heard from people who were beta testing home that it's not that fun and realized that home isn't suppose to be "fun" in itself. It's like XBL, you actually need many other people that you can play actual games with before it get's "fun". And when you have these people (~1 million instead of ~15,000 that are in the home beat now) It could possibly even better than XBL (you can't join multiplayer games just yet with the home beta) Plus, I don't have to spend $800+ to play second life :)

you dont need 800 dollars cause im pretty sure you already own a pc 

you still dont get what im trying to say who would pay an extra 600 dollars when they already have a pc that can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life and yes these worlds are better due to the fact that you can create your own lands and iteams without paying for premade iteams. Not to mention Second Life has its own economy and real estate and actual virtual colleges where you can go te hear lectures.

ParadiddleFill

Oh for god's sake, please stop acting as if people only buy a PS3 and pay 600 dollars for it ONLY to log on to home.

And it's not just a chat room.

But it seems like you're oblivious to people that are trying to explain to you what Home at it's core actually is. There's no point in discussing with you any further.

bye. 

[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

 

im pretty sure most people own pcs

ParadiddleFill

You still have to have bought a PC to play There and Second Life.

yes but since most people have pcs they can already play better virtual worlds like There and Second Life without spending 600 to play home

Calling it a "better" virtual worlds is pushing it. Home isn't trying to a virtual world, it's trying to be bring together a community of gamers. I've heard from people who were beta testing home that it's not that fun and realized that home isn't suppose to be "fun" in itself. It's like XBL, you actually need many other people that you can play actual games with before it get's "fun". And when you have these people (~1 million instead of ~15,000 that are in the home beat now) It could possibly even better than XBL (you can't join multiplayer games just yet with the home beta) Plus, I don't have to spend $800+ to play second life :)

you dont need 800 dollars cause im pretty sure you already own a pc

Yes, and I already own a ps3 :D 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

 

im pretty sure most people own pcs

munu9

You still have to have bought a PC to play There and Second Life.

yes but since most people have pcs they can already play better virtual worlds like There and Second Life without spending 600 to play home

Calling it a "better" virtual worlds is pushing it. Home isn't trying to a virtual world, it's trying to be bring together a community of gamers. I've heard from people who were beta testing home that it's not that fun and realized that home isn't suppose to be "fun" in itself. It's like XBL, you actually need many other people that you can play actual games with before it get's "fun". And when you have these people (~1 million instead of ~15,000 that are in the home beat now) It could possibly even better than XBL (you can't join multiplayer games just yet with the home beta) Plus, I don't have to spend $800+ to play second life :)

you dont need 800 dollars cause im pretty sure you already own a pc

Yes, and I already own a ps3 :D

well thats all well and good for you, but more people own pcs 

you still dont get what im trying to say who would pay an extra 600 dollars when they already have a pc that can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life and yes these worlds are better due to the fact that you can create your own lands and iteams without paying for premade iteams. Not to mention Second Life has its own economy and real estate and actual virtual colleges where you can go te hear lectures.  

ParadiddleFill

Your logic is flawed.  One is not paying an EXTRA six hundred dollars for anything, they are paying $600 for a PS3.  It DOES NOT matter if most people already own a PC.  That PC had to be purchased at some point.  PC's don't just come with houses, and they certainly don't appear out of thin air.  Maybe your parents own one and you use it, but they had to pay for it, and at some point you will have to purchase one.

LIVE is to enhance your gaming experience.

HOME is to distract you from having a gaming experience.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

you still dont get what im trying to say who would pay an extra 600 dollars when they already have a pc that can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life and yes these worlds are better due to the fact that you can create your own lands and iteams without paying for premade iteams. Not to mention Second Life has its own economy and real estate and actual virtual colleges where you can go te hear lectures.

chaos-SD

Your logic is flawed. One is not paying an EXTRA six hundred dollars for anything, they are paying $600 for a PS3. It DOES NOT matter if most people already own a PC. That PC had to be purchased at some point. PC's don't just come with houses, and they certainly don't appear out of thin air. Maybe your parents own one and you use it, but they had to pay for it, and at some point you will have to purchase one.

the point is why pay extra money for a feature thats on the pc which everyone already owns. Its like whats the point of buying a jaguar for the the FM player when your Rolls Royce already come with XM

LIVE is to enhance your gaming experience.

HOME is to distract you from having a gaming experience.

ReverseCycology

Both are to enhance your gaming experience, willful ignorance doesn't suite you. 

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]It's hard to be a rip-off when it's free......but yes, it's nothing huge. Well, it might be compared to the PS3's current library....dmaximum

Well it depends on if you buy the premium content like the pool tables and stuff for your house, if Im not mistaken those cost a bit of money.

Thats exactly what I said. 

You can play games and have your own apartment with trophies that you can win in games. For free. Wow it's a total rip off.It's awesome

[QUOTE="chaos-SD"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

you still dont get what im trying to say who would pay an extra 600 dollars when they already have a pc that can play better virtual chatrooms like There and Second Life and yes these worlds are better due to the fact that you can create your own lands and iteams without paying for premade iteams. Not to mention Second Life has its own economy and real estate and actual virtual colleges where you can go te hear lectures.

ParadiddleFill

Your logic is flawed. One is not paying an EXTRA six hundred dollars for anything, they are paying $600 for a PS3. It DOES NOT matter if most people already own a PC. That PC had to be purchased at some point. PC's don't just come with houses, and they certainly don't appear out of thin air. Maybe your parents own one and you use it, but they had to pay for it, and at some point you will have to purchase one.

the point is why pay extra money for a feature thats on the pc which everyone already owns. Its like whats the point of buying a jaguar for the the FM player when your Rolls Royce already come with XM