honestly...SSBB. explain it to me!

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Here's a vid of two top North American players

But I think you're a bit too close minded to the possibility of it being a deep fighter at this point sooooo :roll:

If you really don't understand how their play is different than normal play, I could explain it to you.....

Bread_or_Decide

Yup. Did I call it or what.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Here's a vid of two top North American players

But I think you're a bit too close minded to the possibility of it being a deep fighter at this point sooooo :roll:

If you really don't understand how their play is different than normal play, I could explain it to you.....

Bread_or_Decide

Yup. Did I call it or what.

What of other fighters? all you do is blovk/sidestep/ combo mash :S

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Calling Smash Bros. incredibly deep, the best fighter, or the best game ever makes you a fanboy. Enjoying a game moderatly without such nonsense makes you a gamer.Bread_or_Decide

Some game has to be the best ever for some people, and it will be different for each.

I enjoy each and every game equally = someone who doesn't play games.

Yeah but it can't be coincidence that Smash Bros. fans think their game is the best ever. Cause it's the only fighting game they probably have ever played. Cause its the only one Nintendo has ever made.

That's just absurd. You think just because someone thinks SSBB is one of the greatest games ever you assume a) they're a nintendo fanboy and/or b) it's the only fighting game they've ever played? I mean, I can understand everyone has an opinion and not every game is going to be liked by everyone, but you seem to just be saying "I don't get it. Therefore, the game is crap and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong."

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"]

top quality? made for casuals? the production values may be high (the music excluded going by most nintendo games) but gameplay? its not complicated at all. it is easy to learn. that is the problem. i admit i only had melee for a little more then a month but it was played. all my friends, guys and girls, would just jump around like flys, laugh a little, then after 20 min. put in something else. this is one of those games that i think people hype and pretend they love cause they feel they supposed to. like the lems with halo and cows with killzone.

but this game shouldnt be compared with games like VF. soul calibur, or dead or alive, or even capcoms 2D fighters. it doesnt have the depth, technology, or skill to back it up.

Bread_or_Decide

Be warned you will now be flamed for daring to say SSBB is not deep. I mean we all know its not. But teh fans....they'll show you videos of people jumping around...then hitting people off screen. And they'll be shocked your not impressed.

Tis the Smash Bros. cycle.

So you are saying that SSBB is for Nintendo fans

What Halo is for Xbox fans?

Calling Smash Bros. incredibly deep, the best fighter, or the best game ever makes you a fanboy. Enjoying a game moderatly without such nonsense makes you a gamer.

I quess then in your view I am a fanboy...Because I have never had more fun with a fighter than playing SB

I do own and enjoy all KI, every MK besides the last 2 and I can't tell you how many capcom fighting games I own. But I can't stand Tekken, VF and have not played Dead or Alive games. I think the 4 player battles is what sold me. Being able to battle 4 friends at a time is a blast. Maybe it not the deepest fighter but IMO it is the funnest.

I will explain it to you. Basically its a paradise for nintenerds. The type of people that still get a hard-on for Mario. I will never understand their state of mind...its a sickness!

OMG...Mario...wow!!!

OMG....Link....wow!!!

OMG....Bowser....wow!!

Me:

OMG....WHO CARES?!

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Here's a vid of two top North American players

But I think you're a bit too close minded to the possibility of it being a deep fighter at this point sooooo :roll:

If you really don't understand how their play is different than normal play, I could explain it to you.....

Bread_or_Decide

Yup. Did I call it or what.

not like it was a surprise. if someone said the world was flat. chances are other would post images to disprove it.

Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
prodiqy32

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
prodiqy32

:roll: go watch the videoes. you'll see a lot of great strategies, and many things you've mentioned. i think the main issue is that you want brawl to be just another fighter that you're comparing it to.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
prodiqy32

It doesn't fit your definition of a fighter then. There's FPS games where one hit kills you, and there's FPS games like Halo where you can take tons of damage before dying. It's just a different styIe. It's not a "sim" fighter like Virtua Fighter. It's a freaking nuts fighter. And I find it a hell of a lot more fun then any other fighter.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Here's a vid of two top North American players

But I think you're a bit too close minded to the possibility of it being a deep fighter at this point sooooo :roll:

If you really don't understand how their play is different than normal play, I could explain it to you.....

Ontain

Yup. Did I call it or what.

not like it was a surprise. if someone said the world was flat. chances are other would post images to disprove it.

oh yeah? will i thing the world is flat :P

Mortal Kombat?

Ok, lets get these facts out of the way, SSB may just be my favorite non tradional fighting series (since I usually don't relate the two) and anyone that says that the series are bereft of any and all necessary skill or complexity are quite frankly fooling themselves to the extreme.

The only thing I have to say really, is that untill such people participate in a friendly tournament against people that are considered some of the best in some respective countries, should quite frankly shut their traps :) .

PROVE ME WRONG!

prodiqy32

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
prodiqy32

It doesn't have to have many combos, counters, throws, punches and kicks to be fun. It is really fun, and is probably more fun then most fighters.

im starting to think it gets hyped because there isnt anything else to hype. and this isnt a fanboy thread on my end. mt fav fighters are snk vs capcom, tekken, virtua fighter, samurai showdown, and anything with the words street fighter in it. my point being that you can get these games on any system. i love powerstone, i wouldnt say its deep. i love capcom and street fighter. i wont claim them to be the best just because its capcom. and after reading some of these threads, you all say its because its got link or kirby.prodiqy32

Stop right there. That game is horrible I can't believe you would play such garbage. But if you like it I guess thats fine.

im starting to think it gets hyped because there isnt anything else to hype. and this isnt a fanboy thread on my end. mt fav fighters are snk vs capcom, tekken, virtua fighter, samurai showdown, and anything with the words street fighter in it. my point being that you can get these games on any system. i love powerstone, i wouldnt say its deep. i love capcom and street fighter. i wont claim them to be the best just because its capcom. and after reading some of these threads, you all say its because its got link or kirby.prodiqy32

That like saying the same thing to SCIV. It seems that quite a few people want it because it has Star Wars characters.:roll:

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Here's a vid of two top North American players

But I think you're a bit too close minded to the possibility of it being a deep fighter at this point sooooo :roll:

If you really don't understand how their play is different than normal play, I could explain it to you.....

stika

Yup. Did I call it or what.

not like it was a surprise. if someone said the world was flat. chances are other would post images to disprove it.

oh yeah? will i thing the world is flat :P

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae535.cfm :P

[QUOTE="stika"][QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Here's a vid of two top North American players

But I think you're a bit too close minded to the possibility of it being a deep fighter at this point sooooo :roll:

If you really don't understand how their play is different than normal play, I could explain it to you.....

Ontain

Yup. Did I call it or what.

not like it was a surprise. if someone said the world was flat. chances are other would post images to disprove it.

oh yeah? will i thing the world is flat :P

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae535.cfm :P

OH MY GOD!! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
prodiqy32

i hate fighters like tekken, SC, virtua fighter etc but LOVE smash bros :)

melee was prob the game i played the most last gen

dude you havent played a smash bros game so you wont understand

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
prodiqy32

SSBB does not have 30 or 40 punches and kicks.It doesn't have a dozen different throws. It doesn't have a lot of things that fighters like Tekken and MK have.

And this proves what? That the game is boring? That it's stupid? That it lacks in depth?

Call it what you want. Doesn't change the fact that it's a very fun game.

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"]PROVE ME WRONG!

Blackbond

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
Haziqonfire

I don't tend to like the games where they pull every licence they can to make an enjoyable game........that said i'm gonna buy Soul Caliber 4 when it comes out because it's got Yoda this time around so I'm being hypocritical by not getting Brawl.

It is I suppose a good way of ending the arguments with your mates such has Mario Vs Luigi who would win and stuff like that

im starting to think it gets hyped because there isnt anything else to hype. and this isnt a fanboy thread on my end. mt fav fighters are snk vs capcom, tekken, virtua fighter, samurai showdown, and anything with the words street fighter in it. my point being that you can get these games on any system. i love powerstone, i wouldnt say its deep. i love capcom and street fighter. i wont claim them to be the best just because its capcom. and after reading some of these threads, you all say its because its got link or kirby.prodiqy32

yeah, because those 5000+ posts on the dojo update thread just appeared this month right :roll:

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"]PROVE ME WRONG!

prodiqy32

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

There you go. You just answered your own question: it's not your type of game. Just like Halo, Bioshock, Resistance, Tekken, Super Mario Galaxy, and Zelda isn't other ppls type of game.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"]PROVE ME WRONG!

prodiqy32

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

theres 2 smash bros games out not 3

ooohhhhhhhhhhhhh. 1 throw in any direction. you CAN combo. like 2 punches instead of 1. and even though most fighters have several different counters and counter types, im SSB, you CAN counter with a sheild on some fighters. i c said the blind man. prodiqy32

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"]PROVE ME WRONG!

prodiqy32

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

along with following videos.

Believe me, look up "wavedashing" It's a key tactic to perfect but for most people it's very difficult to even pull off.

ooohhhhhhhhhhhhh. 1 throw in any direction. you CAN combo. like 2 punches instead of 1. and even though most fighters have several different counters and counter types, im SSB, you CAN counter with a sheild on some fighters. i c said the blind man. prodiqy32

like I mentioned before. your comparison to other fighting games is silly. one can flip things around and say do other fighters have as much variety in characters and attacks? no. Do they make much use of multiple altitudes? nope. etc.

does that make them any less deep? no. they have competely different play styles.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Brawl is as much of a fighting game as mortal kombat.

See you'd think theres 3 level of jumps/2 attack buttons.. but really.

You can do 6 levels of A attacks (Tap the stick slightly, tap stick towards direction hard), 3 B move attacks, air dodges, side dodges, recovering, ledge hogging, wave dashing and more

its actually a simple, yet deep, fighter.

once you get good, its really fun.
prodiqy32

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"]PROVE ME WRONG!

prodiqy32

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

Fleas jumping around? Heh, do I even take this comment seriously from someone who plays SNK vs Capcom lol. Anyways this just isn't your type of game. Don't bother buying, playing or trying it. There is no point trying to convince someone that a game which will score well across the board and sell amazing is going to appeal to them. If you don't like it you don't like it. That is that and there is nothing else to it. I don't understand why people should even feel justified into explaining it to you.

People don't even bother just direct him to the Huge Mario's Dad thread. This game willl score well and sell well and nobody needs to justify SSBB to him. Let him miss out while the rest of the world is going to buy this game buy the boatload. He'll still be asking while everyone is still playing.Blackbond

Off topic... but why don't ya like Capcom vs. Snk?

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"]PROVE ME WRONG!

Blackbond

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

Fleas jumping around? Heh, do I even take this comment seriously from someone who plays SNK vs Capcom lol. Anyways this just isn't your type of game. Don't bother buying, playing or trying it. There is no point trying to convince someone that a game which will score well across the board and sell amazing is going to appeal to them. If you don't like it you don't like it. That is that and there is nothing else to it. I don't understand why people should even feel justified into explaining it to you.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]People don't even bother just direct him to the Huge Mario's Dad thread. This game willl score well and sell well and nobody needs to justify SSBB to him. Let him miss out while the rest of the world is going to buy this game buy the boatload. He'll still be asking while everyone is still playing.locopatho

Off topic... but why don't ya like Capcom vs. Snk?

Capcom vs SNK is amazing. SNK vs Capcom is garbage. I play Capcom vs SNK 2 with Forza_2. SNK vs Capcom the game he was talking about is a different game.

SNK vs Capcom

That games sucks.

if your gonna rag street fighter and capcom fighters then you are clearly a fanboy. if it wasnt for that series we may not even have the systems we have now. its like mario on the nes. few games can keep a hobby like videogames going. the SNES was strugling against the genesis when street fighter 2 came out. that game kept arcades open for a year. now go give your fleas some practice.prodiqy32

Be quiet you have no idea what you are talkinga about. SNK vs Capcom is garbage. Capcom vs SNK is where it is at. You are the fanboy. You are not using logic. I never ragged on SF and Capcom fighters I own my own customized Arcade stick.

Next time you call someone a fanboy. Make sure their user name isn't BlackBond. I own more fighters then you ever will. This is is only a fragment of my collection.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]People don't even bother just direct him to the Huge Mario's Dad thread. This game willl score well and sell well and nobody needs to justify SSBB to him. Let him miss out while the rest of the world is going to buy this game buy the boatload. He'll still be asking while everyone is still playing.Blackbond

Off topic... but why don't ya like Capcom vs. Snk?

Capcom vs SNK is amazing. SNK vs Capcom is garbage. I play Capcom vs SNK 2 with Forza_2. SNK vs Capcom the game he was talking about is a different game.

SNK vs Capcom

That games sucks.

Ah, now that makes sense. Capcom vs Snk is one of my fave PS2 fighters don't like when people diss it :P

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="prodiqy32"]PROVE ME WRONG!

prodiqy32

How does someone prove this thread wrong when you have no playtime or experience with the game. Prove you wrong? You don't even have enough info to justify you to say such a thing in this thread. This is the 3rd game in the series. If you need explaining now go to Smash DOJO.

Fleas jumping around? Heh, do I even take this comment seriously from someone who plays SNK vs Capcom lol. Anyways this just isn't your type of game. Don't bother buying, playing or trying it. There is no point trying to convince someone that a game which will score well across the board and sell amazing is going to appeal to them. If you don't like it you don't like it. That is that and there is nothing else to it. I don't understand why people should even feel justified into explaining it to you.

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"]

top quality? made for casuals? the production values may be high (the music excluded going by most nintendo games) but gameplay? its not complicated at all. it is easy to learn. that is the problem. i admit i only had melee for a little more then a month but it was played. all my friends, guys and girls, would just jump around like flys, laugh a little, then after 20 min. put in something else. this is one of those games that i think people hype and pretend they love cause they feel they supposed to. like the lems with halo and cows with killzone.

but this game shouldnt be compared with games like VF. soul calibur, or dead or alive, or even capcoms 2D fighters. it doesnt have the depth, technology, or skill to back it up.

Bread_or_Decide

Be warned you will now be flamed for daring to say SSBB is not deep. I mean we all know its not. But teh fans....they'll show you videos of people jumping around...then hitting people off screen. And they'll be shocked your not impressed.

Tis the Smash Bros. cycle.

Because your opinion matters but not the millions of Smash fans? Oh wait its systems wars where plenty of people still believe the world revolves around them.

Realize that in this world people have different tastes and enjoy different things. Or just keep spouting your opinion as fact, whatever.

top quality? made for casuals? the production values may be high (the music excluded going by most nintendo games) but gameplay? its not complicated at all. it is easy to learn. that is the problem. i admit i only had melee for a little more then a month but it was played. all my friends, guys and girls, would just jump around like flys, laugh a little, then after 20 min. put in something else. this is one of those games that i think people hype and pretend they love cause they feel they supposed to. like the lems with halo and cows with killzone.

but this game shouldnt be compared with games like VF. soul calibur, or dead or alive, or even capcoms 2D fighters. it doesnt have the depth, technology, or skill to back it up.

prodiqy32

Why do you keep doing this to yourself? Seriously why? You know you're going to be proven wrong again, and again, and again. Just stop already.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"]if your gonna rag street fighter and capcom fighters then you are clearly a fanboy. if it wasnt for that series we may not even have the systems we have now. its like mario on the nes. few games can keep a hobby like videogames going. the SNES was strugling against the genesis when street fighter 2 came out. that game kept arcades open for a year. now go give your fleas some practice.prodiqy32

Be quiet you have no idea what you are talkinga about. SNK vs Capcom is garbage. Capcom vs SNK is where it is at. You are the fanboy. You are not using logic. I never ragged on SF and Capcom fighters I own my own customized Arcade stick.

Next time you call someone a fanboy. Make sure their user name isn't BlackBond. I own more fighters then you ever will. This is is only a fragment of my collection.

im sorry, dont cry. it will be ok puddin pop!prodiqy32

You have been owned.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"]if your gonna rag street fighter and capcom fighters then you are clearly a fanboy. if it wasnt for that series we may not even have the systems we have now. its like mario on the nes. few games can keep a hobby like videogames going. the SNES was strugling against the genesis when street fighter 2 came out. that game kept arcades open for a year. now go give your fleas some practice.prodiqy32

Be quiet you have no idea what you are talkinga about. SNK vs Capcom is garbage. Capcom vs SNK is where it is at. You are the fanboy. You are not using logic. I never ragged on SF and Capcom fighters I own my own customized Arcade stick.

Next time you call someone a fanboy. Make sure their user name isn't BlackBond. I own more fighters then you ever will. This is is only a fragment of my collection.

we're sorry, you were owned. :lol:

ooh look, and again with the tournament photo.

That's gotta sting.

"Graphics are bleh"?

You think the mother****ing graphics are bad?

Please destroy your Wii.