Old but still relatively applicable, Digital Foundry:

While Kojima's demonstration of a pared-back Metal Gear Solid 4 (still operating with many PS3-level assets) puts paid to the notion that NGP offers the same level of processing power as the PlayStation 3, it does at least suggest that with careful nipping and tucking, an equivalent mobile experience can be created.

It also demonstrates in spectacular style that NGP is significantly more powerful than the Nintendo 3DS. Even factoring in the stereoscopic resolution of 800x240, NGP is still operating with over 2.5 times as many pixels, plus the Lost Planet 2 demonstration was a strong indication that support for the full OpenGL 2.0 ES feature-set presents visual capabilities that the 3DS struggles to match. What we saw here was a considerably richer visual experience than what has been seen in Capcom's equivalent work on Resident Evil: Revelations. Behind the magical stereoscopic effect and some of the GPU effects, there's still a sense that 3DS feels like a Dreamcast or PS2-level of hardware while NGP reaches - and almost seems to reach - the next generation.

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The difference in power, however, may be less apparent, due to diminishing returns.

shinrabanshou

All the tech speak (which I'm not doubting at all, nor am I saying 3DS is better than the Vita) and Revelations looks far and above better than anything on Wii or Cube (including RE4)

Honestly, Revelations looks like its a bit between Wii and 360 IMO (not fact, just my opinion) but closer to Wii, with the lower resolution and smaller screen generating home console like visuals on the 3DS I can't say I'm disappointed and I appreciate the ability to mimick higher level hardware without actually putting pricey hardware in it

I would say that it is similar to the 360 vs Ps3 gap

LastRambo341

More like the difference between the Wii and 360/PS3 gap.

I'd say similar to DS and PSP, maybe a slightly smaller gap, but compare launch titles for both systems and the difference is huge.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

I would say that it is similar to the 360 vs Ps3 gap

SRTtoZ

More like the difference between the Wii and 360/PS3 gap.

The gap is pretty big, Vita is problably twice as powerful if not more.

However, power is arguably the least important factor in a handheld.

Wii vs PS3 difference sounds about right

I'm thinking DCvs Xbox big...

It is a shame that Vita is going to flop. I like the 3DS, but I just don't understand why Nintendo can't ever get a nicely designed unit out. As for visuals? Neither supply xbox/ps3 level visuals--the level of fidelity we're used to--so what is the point? Both are going to look dated, regardless.

Wii vs PS3 difference sounds about right

nitekids2004

The PS3 is without a doubt much more powerful than Vita. However, if you take into consideration what the PPI of the screen is as well as it's resolution output, then a case could be made that the graphic fidelity may not be far off from each other. I think the thread has a rather disengenuous premise that disregards the technical considerations. Vita is not rendering to a television screen and if it was designed to, then it would be far too power hungry to be a fitting handheld console.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Wii vs PS3 difference sounds about right

LastRambo341

I'll change my opinion once I see it.

As it stands at the moment, RE:Revelations looks like a Wii game. Uncharted:GA / Wipeout / Virtua Tennislooks like an earlyPS3 game.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Wii vs PS3 difference sounds about right

nitekids2004

I'll change my opinion once I see it.

As it stands at the moment, RE:Revelations looks like a Wii game. Uncharted:GA / Wipeout / Virtua Tennislooks like an earlyPS3 game.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Wii vs PS3 difference sounds about right

Desmonic

So what? Do you know if it looks as good? Do you know if the Vita could handle it better? Do you know what sort of sacrificies they had to make to be able to run it on the 3DS?

For all we know they are just referring to the game engine RE5 used, not the game itself. Heck, for all we know RE5 on 3DS could look like piss poor port of the original game. So stop saying the same thing over and over, whithout knowing whether or not it runs well/looks decent on the 3DS.

Even Crysis runs on both PS3 ad Xbox 360, however it looks like crap compared to PC.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

So what? Do you know if it looks as good? Do you know if the Vita could handle it better? Do you know what sort of sacrificies they had to make to be able to run it on the 3DS?

For all we know they are just referring to the game engine RE5 used, not the game itself. Heck, for all we know RE5 on 3DS could look like piss poor port of the original game. So stop saying the same thing over and over, whithout knowing whether or not it runs well/looks decent on the 3DS.

Even Crysis runs on both PS3 ad Xbox 360, however it looks like crap compared to PC.

Desmonic

SP =/= MP in terms of graphics. It was obvious Revelations was going to be the better looking one of the 2.

And please don't use Revelations or Mercenaries as some sort "proof" that RE5 on 3DS runs well. RE5 still looks leaps and bounds better than anyhting on the 3DS and Vita. The only proof of RE5 running well on the 3DS would be a video, gameplay of some kind. If not that some images would still be welcome.

Smaller than Sony fanboys think.

Larger than Nintendo fanboys think.

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] According to http://www.computerandvideogames.com/287515/resident-evil-5-runs-on-nintendo-3ds/ Yes, Vita would handle it better. Judging from Mercenaries and that the 3DS could pull a game running better than it with better graphics, its safe to assume that it played wellLastRambo341

SP =/= MP in terms of graphics. It was obvious Revelations was going to be the better looking one of the 2.

And please don't use Revelations or Mercenaries as some sort "proof" that RE5 on 3DS runs well. RE5 still looks leaps and bounds better than anyhting on the 3DS and Vita. The only proof of RE5 running well on the 3DS would be a video, gameplay of some kind. If not that some images would still be welcome.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

I would say that it is similar to the 360 vs Ps3 gap

LastRambo341

They also managed to make Dead Rising run on the Wii. It didn't turn out good though.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] :lol:LastRambo341

Ooooh, they "managed". Well, excuse me princess.

Must have been a really great version of the game if Revelaitons is what they developed instead.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] :lol:Cherokee_Jack

Ooooh, they "managed". Well, excuse me princess.

Must have been a really great version of the game if Revelaitons is what they developed instead.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] :lol:JLF1MarkII

They also managed to make Dead Rising run on the Wii. It didn't turn out good though.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

SP =/= MP in terms of graphics. It was obvious Revelations was going to be the better looking one of the 2.

And please don't use Revelations or Mercenaries as some sort "proof" that RE5 on 3DS runs well. RE5 still looks leaps and bounds better than anyhting on the 3DS and Vita. The only proof of RE5 running well on the 3DS would be a video, gameplay of some kind. If not that some images would still be welcome.

MFDOOM1983

Demo =/= not full game And please don't compare RE5 to Revelations, because Re5 is more of a shoot-em up than Revelations (which is a throwback to the classic)

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

SP =/= MP in terms of graphics. It was obvious Revelations was going to be the better looking one of the 2.

And please don't use Revelations or Mercenaries as some sort "proof" that RE5 on 3DS runs well. RE5 still looks leaps and bounds better than anyhting on the 3DS and Vita. The only proof of RE5 running well on the 3DS would be a video, gameplay of some kind. If not that some images would still be welcome.

Desmonic

Can you read? Allow me to quote your article:

Resident Evil 5 runs on Nintendo 3DS

Capcom's Ono has seen it in action...Capcom's Yoshinoro Ono has revealed that the first thing he saw running on Nintendo 3DS was a 3D version of Resident Evil 5.

"The first time I had any kind of contact with the 3DS was shortly before E3 of last year," the Street Fighter mastermind toldGames Radar.

"A couple of weeks before the show I got a call from [Capcom producer] Takeuchi-san, and he said he had something he wanted me to see. So I travelled to Osaka, and he whipped out a 3DS, and it was running a version of Resident Evil 5!"

Ono also admitted to being taken aback by the console's power. "I was surprised we could get this kind of power in the palm of your hand, and 3D to boot," he said.

Yet Capcom chose not to release Resident Evil 5 for 3DS. Instead of porting the Xbox 360 and PS3 game over to the new 3D handheld, Capcom has created two all-new Resident Evil games for the handheld;Resident Evil: RevelationsandResident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D.

Want to know if it would be good to see Resident Evil 5 running on 3DS? Here's ourResident Evil 5 review.

computer and videogames

So, let me start by saying that I never said the RE5 wasn't running on the 3DS. I just questioned "how" it wold be running, how well, whether or not it's even comparable to the original. And your article does indeed say that RE5 was running on the 3DS. It doesn't however asnwer my questions and neither do you.

And do notice the person who claims to have seen it run on the 3DS is a CAPCOM worker. It could be, for all WE know just a stunt by Capcom, or even an exageration of what he actually saw. Until WE see it running on 3DS, I very much doubt it runs well, even with scaled down graphics. Wanna prove me wrong? Show me RE5 running WELL on the 3DS. Don't present me the same article I've read many times before.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Harpedy harp harp :lol: Did you know that Capcom managed to get RE5 running on the 3DS?

LastRambo341

Ooooh, they "managed". Well, excuse me princess.

Must have been a really great version of the game if Revelaitons is what they developed instead.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Ooooh, they "managed". Well, excuse me princess.

Must have been a really great version of the game if Revelaitons is what they developed instead.

Cherokee_Jack

Oh the mindless assumptions by Trolly JAck :lol:

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] That doesn't make sense. Maybe because they want to make an exclusive built for the 3DS, instead of a port?LastRambo341

Oh the mindless assumptions by Trolly JAck :lol:

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Obviously, the graphics will be scaled down, but other than that, the game can still be running. The link is my proof, wanna deny it? Be my guest. You're not credible.LastRambo341

Demo =/= not full game And please don't compare RE5 to Revelations, because Re5 is more of a shoot-em up than Revelations (which is a throwback to the classic)

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Or maybe because they had to strip down RE5 so much to get it running on 3DS that they decided not to bother?Cherokee_Jack

Oh the mindless assumptions by Trolly JAck :lol:

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

Oh the mindless assumptions by Trolly JAck :lol:

LastRambo341

Yeah, see, that's generally how assumptions work: when you're stuck with incomplete knowledge of something, you use other knowledge and logic to fill in the blanks.

For example, neither of us know what the version of RE5 that ran on 3DS was like. I consider the comments developers have made about the relative power of the 3DS, and what 3DS games have achieved technically so far, and from that I assume that RE5 most likely could not be made to run on the 3DS without major downgrades and/or bad performance. You see that Capcom made a version of RE5 run on the 3DS and assume that it ran well, based on........pretty much nothing?

Anyway, point is that everyone has to make assumptions at some level because no one knows everything. The trick is not to forget the part where you use logic. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Harpedy harp harp :lol: Did you know that Capcom managed to get RE5 running on the 3DS?

LastRambo341

They also managed to make Dead Rising run on the Wii. It didn't turn out good though.

Engines doesn't say anything. Every engine can run on everything.

Mega Man Legends 3 used MT Framework - Version Mobile and that did not look like a powerhouse game. As did SSF43D and the recent RE:R and RE:M.

Oh the mindless assumptions by Trolly JAck :lol:

LastRambo341

Wouldn't it be easier to just wait and see if Capcom does anyhting with RE5 on the 3DS? Or even better, why not use RE:R which uses the same engine. It looks really good but far from Vita good.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] That's OK, you can evade the argument if it makes you uncomfortable. ;)Cherokee_Jack

Yeah, see, that's generally how assumptions work: when you're stuck with incomplete knowledge of something, you use other knowledge and logic to fill in the blanks.

For example, neither of us know what the version of RE5 that ran on 3DS was like. I consider the comments developers have made about the relative power of the 3DS, and what 3DS games have achieved technically so far, and from that I assume that RE5 most likely could not be made to run on the 3DS without major downgrades and/or bad performance. You see that Capcom made a version of RE5 run on the 3DS and assume that it ran well, based on........pretty much nothing?

Anyway, point is that everyone has to make assumptions at some level because no one knows everything. The trick is not to forget the part where you use logic. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Evading? You're the one making up those assumptions ;)LastRambo341

Yeah, see, that's generally how assumptions work: when you're stuck with incomplete knowledge of something, you use other knowledge and logic to fill in the blanks.

For example, neither of us know what the version of RE5 that ran on 3DS was like. I consider the comments developers have made about the relative power of the 3DS, and what 3DS games have achieved technically so far, and from that I assume that RE5 most likely could not be made to run on the 3DS without major downgrades and/or bad performance. You see that Capcom made a version of RE5 run on the 3DS and assume that it ran well, based on........pretty much nothing?

Anyway, point is that everyone has to make assumptions at some level because no one knows everything. The trick is not to forget the part where you use logic. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

The dreamcast/xbox comparison seems about right.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Evading? You're the one making up those assumptions ;)LastRambo341

Yeah, see, that's generally how assumptions work: when you're stuck with incomplete knowledge of something, you use other knowledge and logic to fill in the blanks.

For example, neither of us know what the version of RE5 that ran on 3DS was like. I consider the comments developers have made about the relative power of the 3DS, and what 3DS games have achieved technically so far, and from that I assume that RE5 most likely could not be made to run on the 3DS without major downgrades and/or bad performance. You see that Capcom made a version of RE5 run on the 3DS and assume that it ran well, based on........pretty much nothing?

Anyway, point is that everyone has to make assumptions at some level because no one knows everything. The trick is not to forget the part where you use logic. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

Just don't even bother.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Yeah, see, that's generally how assumptions work: when you're stuck with incomplete knowledge of something, you use other knowledge and logic to fill in the blanks.

For example, neither of us know what the version of RE5 that ran on 3DS was like. I consider the comments developers have made about the relative power of the 3DS, and what 3DS games have achieved technically so far, and from that I assume that RE5 most likely could not be made to run on the 3DS without major downgrades and/or bad performance. You see that Capcom made a version of RE5 run on the 3DS and assume that it ran well, based on........pretty much nothing?

Anyway, point is that everyone has to make assumptions at some level because no one knows everything. The trick is not to forget the part where you use logic. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

JLF1MarkII

Oh yes I do, since people keep on lecturing "bla bla bla"

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Yeah, see, that's generally how assumptions work: when you're stuck with incomplete knowledge of something, you use other knowledge and logic to fill in the blanks.

For example, neither of us know what the version of RE5 that ran on 3DS was like. I consider the comments developers have made about the relative power of the 3DS, and what 3DS games have achieved technically so far, and from that I assume that RE5 most likely could not be made to run on the 3DS without major downgrades and/or bad performance. You see that Capcom made a version of RE5 run on the 3DS and assume that it ran well, based on........pretty much nothing?

Anyway, point is that everyone has to make assumptions at some level because no one knows everything. The trick is not to forget the part where you use logic. But don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.

meetroid8

Just don't even bother.

:cool: Yes I am a badass, and you're a geeky nerd.

*punches meetroid and makes him cry*

I think people have problems understanding the philosophy behind these two products.

The Vita is a portable PS3 intended to re-create the home console experience on a handheld whereas the 3DS is more of an handheld in the traditional sense.

Both do their jobs well, that is Vita in re-creating the home console experience on the go and the 3DS in introducing 3D portable gaming with fast and colorful 3D graphics.