How can a console with highest failure rate in history considered success ?

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[QUOTE="Foliage-King"] Yeah it does. It proves alot. RROD is much worse then dre ever was and trying to ignore facts just harms your credibility. 2mrw

It proves that the 360 is newer and more talked about recently, yay ! >_>

I'm really not the one ignoring facts here buddy.

Complaining is a form of vocal interaction yes. Doesnt change my post in anyway whatsoever. One is current and there's more people to complain about it now, and one is old and the complaints are infinitely less frequent now as its long passed.

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Spreadsheet

A game with a good score is more often than not going to be a good game.

Silverbond

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="2mrw"] :? .... That's all??, a law suit against Sony for an error, you know, every company has couple of those ........ if everyone sued MS for its faulty hardware, then it would go bankrupt long time ago, free fixing and long warranty solved this problem, but it also shows how serious and common it is.slvrraven9

its a failure because MS did the right thing in repairing the broken consoles for free and extending the warrenty AND refunding the money people had already paid on console repairs while last gen sony did NOTHING to rectify the situation aside from letting owners buy a new system. the xbox fails because MS did the right thing with it in being a responsible company...

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[QUOTE="Foliage-King"] Yeah it does. It proves alot. RROD is much worse then dre ever was and trying to ignore facts just harms your credibility. Foliage-King

It proves that the 360 is newer and more talked about recently, yay ! >_>

I'm really not the one ignoring facts here buddy.

A google search today to compare a problem back in 2000 to a problem nowadays isnt accurate, at all. The fact that you're trying to argue that it is speaks volumes... :roll:

Btw, what was your old account name ?

i went through 2 ps 1s and 3 ps2s over the course of their respective gens. were they successful or not?

Riverwolf007

Because it hardly happens anymore+ it's got great games

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'm still failing to see how you can call the 360 a failure though, because of some hardware problems (which we're unaware of how widespread they were), and after MS offered free speedy repair and warranty.2mrw

its a failure because MS did the right thing in repairing the broken consoles for free and extending the warrenty AND refunding the money people had already paid on console repairs while last gen sony did NOTHING to rectify the situation aside from letting owners buy a new system. the xbox fails because MS did the right thing with it in being a responsible company...

its not pure luck that the slim PS2 were plagues be overheating issues just like the 360 was. MS, at least publiclyadmitted fault and fixes the problem why is that sony who ALSO had crappy hardware and was plagued by issues seemingly goes unjugded while you point out all the flaws the 360 at least fessed up to and took care of. your examples are a matter of extreme bias. if youre gonna call it like you see it, call it on BOTH companies. whether or not you give them credit isnt important as its pretty obvious youve ignored some facts brought up in this thread so you ignoring a company for being responsible doesnt suprise me at all. i do however find it utterly rediculous how you can totally disregard ms's attempt to redeem some credibility but totally ignore the Sonys response to the PS2's hardware issues when they in fact had to do the exact same thing with the PS2and that article doesnt even include the issue the ps2 had with overheating on the slim line models of the ps2.

wait......ps2's.....OVERHEATING?????? hmmm.....sounds like a similar case for the current gen doesnt it?

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1.It has great games

2.It sells

3.It has the best online multiplayer service ever

Ravensmash

the Xbox was ahead of the Gamecube.

And eventually the PS3 will surpass the 360 in sales..

Cross game chat and Halo. /thread.

I'm pretty sure the NES had a much higher failure rate, I didn't know one person who owned a NES that didn't have4 to blow in a cart to try and get it to start.

The 360 is selling well, it's profitable and has a terrific library of games.

So it's a successful console, despite its (not 50%) rate of failure (which btw was handled quite well by MS).

The same reason the PS2 dominated the 6th generation despite the dreaded DRE...great games and reducing the failure rates to acceptable levels along the road.

Unless I missed something, the Wii is the one that is winning this gen :question:.IronBass

I'm sure the OP did not say "winning the generation", he just said "successful", as in making alot of profit.

I had two PS1's

two PS2's

one PS3

one wii

one Gamecube

one Megadrive

one SNES

five Xbox 360's

It's making MS money, is it not? That's all it has to do.

Mogotoo

agree

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225,000 results in google for dre ps2

5,110,000 results in google for rrod 360

Foliage-King

Haha "teh proofs" !!

You do realise that prooves absolutely nothing right ?

the internet wasn't as big back in 2001-2004 like it is now. I've seen people who think Youtube search results make a point, but this might have them beat:?

Im sure no one thinks RRoD is a good thing :|

Ppl like it because it has a massive lineup. One of the most complete ever.

because instead of beating thier chest nonstop about how they ARE gaming like that other company, Microsoft delivered great games AND GREAT ONLINE, instead of HOT AIR and '' Potential.

Because instead of being arrogant jerks who tell the world they will buy their system even if it didnt have any games like that other company did, BASICALLY BREEDING Hatred and contempt with each arrogant boast, MS was humble and admited to the RROD and went above and beyond reason to fix the problem and correct it.

because instead of feeling that gamers dollars and loyalty was an '' Entitlement '' like that other company, Microsoft pushed on tirelessly to make a fun experience thru integration of software and online.

does that answer your query TC?

technically the most failure-ridden console in history is the Atari Jaguar CD add-on

Due to the fact that, even with the failure rate, it has managed to garner a lot of 3rd party interest, generate the 2nd highest console sales, and earn a boat load of money for MS.

In terms of hardware it is a failure, in terms of impact on the gaming market, it is a success.

The success of the great overall library, software sales, hardware sales, and online community overshadows the hardware problems.

i was commenting about the overall value of consoles lately , and someone told me you can't depend on hardware or software alone to determine value as they are both subjective, i wasn't that convinced , i thought games and software are subjective but hardware value isn't.So that Q came into my mind, How can a console with 50%+ failure rate considered a success or a real value,even if we really are taking all the factors in consideration, this horrible hardware should be removed immediately from any contest over top 100 best gaming consoles .... another word to describe it " a potentially peice of garbage"

There is no excuse, free repair or wutever, i just can't sit on edge waiting for my console to break any minute. i really dunthink supporters of this kind of hardware can bash any other consoles for any reason, i think hardware failures are the absolute thing that's not subjectives unlike games.

2mrw

I though it was 100% failure rate, actuallyh i read news that noone on the planet actually plays xbox 360, all have failed

That is why all multipltform games sell zero on 360 and sell so huge on PS3

And that is why Halo 3 did not even sell 15 million too !!! Probably the zero working 360 is the reason for Fable 2 selling only 4 million too, while PS3 that works for everyone has more than a billion Uncharted 2 and GOW3sales

The PS2 continues to do fine TC.:P

The PS2 continues to do fine TC.:P

vaderhater

I don't think it will matter in the end anyway, both consoles will be remembered for failing to a tiny console with hardware closer to the gen before than either of its competitors hardware. History remembers the winners.

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The PS2 continues to do fine TC.:P

TintedEyes

it was the worst of last generation, by far.

and it still did the best. only proves success doesn't have to be literal in every aspect. doesn't it?