How can anyone honestly say that the 360 is the better console?

[QUOTE="Strutten"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Exactly.

Post like this really does show how delusional and moronic the Lems are.

Davekeeh

Cows these days i mean seriously , how is kinect a failure if i may ask ? because its for casual gamers ? .. xbla fee - wouldnt say its a fail debatable , also pretty cheap these days .. no exclusives what are cows smoking .. isnt ps only in lead by 1-3 or something like that ? massive facepalm .. yet again xbox does still more games overall (xbox-pc only) yet cows are using the as ownage ? get educated please ..

and as for dvd's, you guys do realise games still are being made too fit dvd in mind, goes for pc also .. but i guess you cant argue with this astounding cow logic .. :lol:

Because its casual games mostly ? because they work pretty actually - for what it needs too accomplish - which is selling itself and appeal too youngster/soccer moms.. because it isnt hard"core", doesnt equal fail dude.

Its really not that big of an issue might for some , but there is constantly offers on live which costs next to nothing ..

In other fanboys eyes maybe, because there is quite a few worth mentioning , such as trials , viva , banjo(imo), lost odyssey and so .. and talking console exclusives quite a few there also .. but should really at least makes some effort into your trolling dude .. its pretty horrible

and again another lame excuse.. xbox does have more games overall but cows always pretends they dont exist somehow .. and now this by your logic bf3 is actually 2 games in one then ? but then i guess its settles its then .. but for the money .. for the price of one ..

dude you should get a grip,

Aside from the games (of which, for me at least, there aren't many in the exclusives department). you have to pay for Live, and now with things like Online passes people who play MP games on the Xbox are paying more than ever. Not only that, but it seems that Kinect is now the main focus, outside a few games like Halo 4. Why would anyone say they support the 360 as a system over other systems?

This is coming from someone who owns an Xbox 360 without Live and has no PS3.

turtlethetaffer

It's a fvcking games console. There is no "aside from the games". The games ARE the console.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Aside from the games (of which, for me at least, there aren't many in the exclusives department). you have to pay for Live, and now with things like Online passes people who play MP games on the Xbox are paying more than ever. Not only that, but it seems that Kinect is now the main focus, outside a few games like Halo 4. Why would anyone say they support the 360 as a system over other systems?

This is coming from someone who owns an Xbox 360 without Live and has no PS3.

locopatho

It's a fvcking games console. There is no "aside from the games". The games ARE the console.

You have to pay for Live aside from paying for games. What's the problem with that? Isn't it a fact?

Overall the PS3 is the better console:

1) It's exclusive line up alone justifies the purchase, the PS3 has, and keeps pumping out, more than enough exclusive games to justify getting it. Even if you already own a 360, the PS3 just offers more as far as exclusives go. On top of this the PS3 also get's the same multiplats as 360, (almost) all of which are identical to the 360 versions and often get exclusive content only on the PS3 version like Joker in Batman, extra mission gangs in RDR ect... Though better exclusives is a subjective term, but the fact remains PS3 offers far more with more genres than 360 exclusives do. There is something for everyone. Anyone who has not played Uncharted is missing out BIG time, there is no way around this, anyone that has played it goes out and buys a PS3 for it, that's how good the games are.

2) PSN is free and it does everything XBL does, aside from cross game chat. Is cross game chat worth paying for? No obviously not. So if you can live without it (which you can) then PSN will suit you just fine. There is zero difference between playing online on PSN and XBL, lag, stable connection ect....all of that depends on YOUR conneciton or the HOST connection. It has nothing to do with PSN or XBL it'self. With PSN, you get to fully experience all parts of your games without any strings attached.

3) If you choose to, you can get PS+ which is cheaper than a Gold subscription but saves you a TON of money, it pays it'self off within a month. The amount of content and money you save is insane, it totally destroys the value of a Gold membership completely. Sure you rent the "free" games, but isn't that what you do with XBL? You just "rent" your real life games and pay MS a fee to access a portion of your game that you aleady paid for, over the internet you already pay for. Plus PSN has no stupid dashboard ads. PS+ is an option that saves you money, XBL Gold is mandatory and takes your money and provides something that is free everywher else.

4) More reliable hard ware, while the 360 Slim fixed many issues, the fact remains that the PS3 is still the more reliable console on the market. It also uses Blu Ray discs which prevents scracthed discs, which the 360 still has reports of doing, it causes light scratches on the DVD.

5) PS3 is the cheaper system, its true. Xbox 360 ends up costing more money, things like XBL subscription (which is basically required, without it you miss out on your games) add up over the years. With a 360 you have to pay $60 for XBL, some people will try to downplay it to "only 5 bucks a year herp derp" but it really ends up being more than that, 3 years of XBL Gold adds up to $180, a 360 slim is around $300, that's $480. You pay all that just to play your games online over your own internet for cross game chat. PS3 you buy it for $300, no questions asked. Even the origional 360 ended up being more expensive than the origional PS3.

6) It's graphics are better, it's true. Games like UC, KZ3, GOW3 ect....are all amazing and there is NOTHING on 360 that even comes close. 360 has some great looking games too like Gears or Witcher or Halo 4, but PS3 games are in a leauge of their own. Many PS3 exclusives look right up there along with several high end PC games, upcoming games like TLOU look just like high end PC games, if it was never announced for PS3 people would assume it would be a PC only game, that's how good it looks. 36 has nothing to counter this, 360 cannot say the same thing because it cannot do it.

7) Blu Ray is great, not only is it the best way to watch movies, but it also works great for games too. If you want the ultimate HD resolution and sound, Blu Ray is the way to g. It's extra data (holds up to 50 GB) is part of the reason why many PS3 games are impossible on the 360. Uncharted, Heavy Rain (not a Sony owned dev btw), MGS4 (not a Sony owned IP btw), God of War 3 ect...are all impossible on the 360. It could never handle these games. This is due in part to the lack of Blu Ray. As a consumer you get the best movie and HD experience with PS3.

Only downside of the PS3 are the updates which can be slow sometimes, and the PS Store has an outdated layout and it's not as expansive as XBL Marketplace. It also on very rare occassions will get a bad port, but those are very rare exceptions as all other multiplats are identical to the 360 versions.

But otherwise it is the superior system. I recommend getting one, even if you already have a 360, because the PS3 gives you more than enough great exclusives alone to justify getting one.

Sony and my PS3 have given me a far better gaming experience than I ever have had with my 360. I haven't even bothered replacing my old 360 because there is no reason to do for only a few games I'm interested in. Witcher 2, Gears, and Halo Reach/4. I also will not pay for XBL so the latter 2 are worthless without MP.

ShadowMoses900

Well it can be said...just not honestly. :cool:ispeakfact

Well it can be said...just not honestly. :cool:ispeakfact

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Well it can be said...just not honestly. :cool:delta3074

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Well it can be said...just not honestly. :cool:speedfreak48t5p

I much prefer it for a number of reasons, but there's no sense listing them because some people have their minds made up and will just insult my choices.

[QUOTE="speedfreak48t5p"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Well it can be said...just not honestly. :cool:ispeakfact

Xbox is a dead console. Halo 4 is the last game. Support has been dropped. Graphics barely on par with psp now in comparison to wiiu and ps3. Ps: has anybody brought up those nonsense spreadsheets?Heirren

Oh boy :lol:

Just like the original Xbox the 360 will die as well, it's already banned in Germany and soon everywhere else.

Just like the original Xbox the 360 will die as well, it's already banned in Germany and soon everywhere else.

Davekeeh

why would it be banned everywhere else?

Just like the original Xbox the 360 will die as well, it's already banned in Germany and soon everywhere else.

Davekeeh

What did i miss now, why is 360 banned in Germany?

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Just like the original Xbox the 360 will die as well, it's already banned in Germany and soon everywhere else.

CaseyWegner

why would it be banned everywhere else?

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Just like the original Xbox the 360 will die as well, it's already banned in Germany and soon everywhere else.

aroxx_ab

What did i miss now, why is 360 banned in Germany?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Just like the original Xbox the 360 will die as well, it's already banned in Germany and soon everywhere else.

ispeakfact

why would it be banned everywhere else?

i know why it was banned in germany even though it's still being sold there while the decision is being appealled. i'm asking about the "everywhere else" part. different countries have different patent laws.

"How can anyone honestly say that the 360 is the better console?"

It's easy, I'll show you: The 360 is the better console. It's a matter of opinion, you can't prove me wrong.

Blueresident87

This. Man, that was easy.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]

More games, stable online, better controller. I prefer PS3 exclusives but the 360 would be a better stand alone system.

CaseyWegner

More games? The majority of the games on the system are shooters from what I've seen/ own. Not necassarily a bad thing but it could stand to use to variety.

Also, how do people justify spending money on online when all three other major systems offer online free? The systems being Wii (I know it sucks but you get my point), PS3 and PC.

actually, if you look at the spreadsheet you'll see that the 360 has just as much if not more variety (depending on how picky you are with defining genres) than the ps3 among it's high scoring (8.0+) exclusives. overall though, the ps3 has more total high scoring exclusives.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AriQpIFbPoEacGM1b0xxcGVucFQ3OFc4N3BNZmd2QkE&gid=1

Why were you disgraced?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

More games? The majority of the games on the system are shooters from what I've seen/ own. Not necassarily a bad thing but it could stand to use to variety.

Also, how do people justify spending money on online when all three other major systems offer online free? The systems being Wii (I know it sucks but you get my point), PS3 and PC.

Zero5000X

actually, if you look at the spreadsheet you'll see that the 360 has just as much if not more variety (depending on how picky you are with defining genres) than the ps3 among it's high scoring (8.0+) exclusives. overall though, the ps3 has more total high scoring exclusives.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AriQpIFbPoEacGM1b0xxcGVucFQ3OFc4N3BNZmd2QkE&gid=1

Why were you disgraced?

why did i lose my mod status? somebody mixed up who said what in a quote chain and i was the one who got blamed for it.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Just so SW is aware, the spreadsheet isn't made for comparing systems total games libraries. Many multiplatform games are reviewed on one platform despite the fact it's a multiplatform game. For instance, Rockband 3 is only listed as a 360 game in that list. That's one of many games. Another example is the PC library is full of DLC, but counted as single games. Some indie games like Braid are counted on the PC list, but DO NOT count for the 360/PS3 list. It's COMPLETELY broken for that type of comparison.

That's because that list was NEVER intended to be misused in an argument like this.

It's a great list FOR looking at EXCLUSIVES and comparing those if you wish, but for trying to prove more multiplat games or MORE TOTAL Games as you did above.

I'm not involved in the argument as the 360 does have more games. I bought two 360's back in 2005. It's obvious as the 360 was out on the market for a full year first. However, I'm here to tell you and those that don't understand, the SW spreadsheet list wasn't designed for a comparison of what has more games. You'll never get an accurate answer that way, ever.

SolidTy

That's depressing.:( I'll wager a guess they will risk ownage every time, with a nice side argument going simultaneously. :P If it's not caught by those involved in the debate, all the better for those misunsing the link I suppose.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Just like the original Xbox the 360 will die as well, it's already banned in Germany and soon everywhere else.

ispeakfact

What did i miss now, why is 360 banned in Germany?

Hahaha ok, guess that what happens when trying to hard be more than a gaming console:lol:

[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

"How can anyone honestly say that the 360 is the better console?"

It's easy, I'll show you: The 360 is the better console. It's a matter of opinion, you can't prove me wrong.

The_Game21x

This. Man, that was easy.

Don't really think one is that much better or worse than the other. From what I've seen and played, they seem pretty equal. The 360 has games I like, and I spend quite a bit more playing time on it than I do my PS3.

[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

"How can anyone honestly say that the 360 is the better console?"

It's easy, I'll show you: The 360 is the better console. It's a matter of opinion, you can't prove me wrong.

The_Game21x

This. Man, that was easy.

With 360 you are essentially buying a Leapfrog pc. With PS3 everything is custom--it is designed more in line with what a game console traditionally is. Then there's the part where ms is going nuts on everybody's behind,with Xbox live and all their ridiculous licensing fees.Heirren

Umm...what? If anything, the PS3 is more "PC like" than the 360, with its mandatory installs and updates/patches that take forever to install and sometimes don't work so one has to go through a convoluted process to get them to install correctly. The 360 has patches and updates as well but they're usually quick and painless for the user.

When you have been betrayed by your console maker, you have nothing left to grab on, but a glimmer of hope that someday MS will admit dropping core and going 99% was a bad idea. Heil68

You constantly rage about "MS dropping core and going 99% casual",yet you own a Kinect,which I saw in some other thread(Show your swag one,I think)...

Can you explain,why?

If you "hate" a product so much,why bother supporting it? :?

Also,your "material" is getting old,you should do something about that...

[QUOTE="Heil68"]When you have been betrayed by your console maker, you have nothing left to grab on, but a glimmer of hope that someday MS will admit dropping core and going 99% was a bad idea. Rocker6

You constantly rage about "MS dropping core and going 99% casual",yet you own a Kinect,which I saw in some other thread(Show your swag one,I think)...

Can you explain,why?

If you "hate" a product so much,why bother supporting it? :?

Also,your "material" is getting old,you should do something about that...

Well I can honestly say RIGHT NOW it is because I use mine way more than my PS3, or Wii. The 360 has the games I want to play, and it looks that way for the rest of this year!

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Good point, i agree. But people will just keep doing this regardless. They need some kind of "proof" for their statement, and this is the only "proof" they have.slimjimbadboy

That's depressing.:( I'll wager a guess they will risk ownage every time, with a nice side argument going simultaneously. :P If it's not caught by those involved in the debate, all the better for those misunsing the link I suppose.

I appreciate you trying, but a general rule of thumb is that wikipedia is not a good source at all as it changes and is edited almost daily. It's user edited by anyone and everyone that wants to edit. You may as well be quoting anyone of us from SW as a source.You mentioned a "larger amount of scoring games" which tells me you noticed a discrepancy between wiki and the Spreadsheet? Hey, I do honestly appreciate you even bothering to try and find something and linking it. That's pretty cool in my book. My main point was that the spreadsheet is crippled because it relies on a GS score, and many games are released and not reviewed by the all-too-small Gamespot.com staff as the game is considered too small, or multiplatform so the review is fine for one machine.

Perhaps Wikipedia as flawed as it is, is the best we can get on such short notice. Better than nothing, right? :P Thanks for tabulating/finding what you could. It's probably better than the GS spreadsheet at the very least.

[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

That's depressing.:( I'll wager a guess they will risk ownage every time, with a nice side argument going simultaneously. :P If it's not caught by those involved in the debate, all the better for those misunsing the link I suppose.

SolidTy

I appreciate you trying, but wikipedia is not a good source at all as it changes and is edited almost daily. It's user edited by anyone and everyone that wants too. You may as well be quoting anyone of us from SW as a source.You mentioned a "larger amount of scoring games" which tells me you noticed a discrepancy between wiki and the Spreadsheet. Hey, I do appreciate you even bothering to try and find something and linking it. That's pretty cool. My main point was that the spreadsheet is crippled because it relies on a GS score, and many games are released and not reviewed by the all-too-small Gamespot.com staff.

Perhaps Wikipedia as flawed as it is, is the best we can get on such short notice. Better than nothing, right? :P Thanks for tabulating/finding what you could. It's probably better than the GS spreadsheet at the very least.

THERE"S A GLITCH IN THE MATRIX! I'M HAVING DE'JAVU!

Really though i've seen threads like this a hundred times.

On topic.

Some people prefer it. Like me.

5$ monthly is what i pay

and life isn't free you bums get over it

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]Alrighty, 800 mutliplats and 127 exclusives vs 623 multiplats and 137 exclusives and even with discrepancies, a larger amount of scoring games from the spreadsheet.

slimjimbadboy

I appreciate you trying, but wikipedia is not a good source at all as it changes and is edited almost daily. It's user edited by anyone and everyone that wants too. You may as well be quoting anyone of us from SW as a source.You mentioned a "larger amount of scoring games" which tells me you noticed a discrepancy between wiki and the Spreadsheet. Hey, I do appreciate you even bothering to try and find something and linking it. That's pretty cool. My main point was that the spreadsheet is crippled because it relies on a GS score, and many games are released and not reviewed by the all-too-small Gamespot.com staff.

Perhaps Wikipedia as flawed as it is, is the best we can get on such short notice. Better than nothing, right? :P Thanks for tabulating/finding what you could. It's probably better than the GS spreadsheet at the very least.

I'm not arguing in this thread for or against any machine as I own both, if that's what you mean by contradicts. I just wanted to educate the use of the Spreadsheet, as it's a nice tool for looking at Exclusives reviewed by GS (AAAE, AAE, etc) and that's about it. :P Also, found in the wiki link, just so you know : "This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness" on both pages. Again, just a heads up, it's probably the best list so far in the thread although it's flawed. I saw some history of those pages, and some strange stuff happens. For instance, someone incorrectly inserted Xbox CIassic Fable 1 as a 360 game for instance, just strange happenings.

[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I appreciate you trying, but wikipedia is not a good source at all as it changes and is edited almost daily. It's user edited by anyone and everyone that wants too. You may as well be quoting anyone of us from SW as a source.You mentioned a "larger amount of scoring games" which tells me you noticed a discrepancy between wiki and the Spreadsheet. Hey, I do appreciate you even bothering to try and find something and linking it. That's pretty cool. My main point was that the spreadsheet is crippled because it relies on a GS score, and many games are released and not reviewed by the all-too-small Gamespot.com staff.

Perhaps Wikipedia as flawed as it is, is the best we can get on such short notice. Better than nothing, right? :P Thanks for tabulating/finding what you could. It's probably better than the GS spreadsheet at the very least.

SolidTy

I'm not arguing in this thread for or against any machine as I own both, if that's what you mean by contradicts. I just wanted to educate the use of the Spreadsheet, as it's a nice tool for looking at Exclusives reviewed by GS (AAAE, AAE, etc) and that's about it. :P Also, found in the wiki link, just so you know : "This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness" on both pages. Again, just a heads up, it's probably the best list so far in the thread although it's flawed. I saw some history of those pages, and some strange stuff happens. For instance, someone incorrectly inserted Xbox CIassic Fable 1 as a 360 game for instance, just strange happenings.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I'm not arguing in this thread for or against any machine as I own both, if that's what you mean by contradicts. I just wanted to educate the use of the Spreadsheet, as it's a nice tool for looking at Exclusives reviewed by GS (AAAE, AAE, etc) and that's about it. :P Also, found in the wiki link, just so you know : "This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness" on both pages. Again, just a heads up, it's probably the best list so far in the thread although it's flawed. I saw some history of those pages, and some strange stuff happens. For instance, someone incorrectly inserted Xbox CIassic Fable 1 as a 360 game for instance, just strange happenings.

slimjimbadboy

We are not on the same page.

That "360-having-more-PS3-games-trend" you speak of, I told you a few times in this thread I'm fully aware the 360 has more games. The 360 released a full year before the PS3, and never has the PS3 passed the 360 in games, and never did I ever believe the PS3 would since 2005. So, that's not an argument I would side with or agree to since I already know that answer long ago. Considering how many 360 games I own, and considering what my job is in RL, this isn't a debate as I know the answer. In my first post I said as much. I clearly know of it first hand since 2005 my two 360 purchases and my long, long time here in SW. You must have me mistaken with another user who doesn't clearly know the facts. I merely came in to speak of the Spreadsheet being incorrectly utilized. I am on the Spreadsheet link at the top of the page, and I just wanted to inform about the spreadsheet, not engage in a PS360 console debate (one that quite frankly is old hashed out material so it bores me frankly).

The simple request about posting something PS3 vs 360 in some sort of bizarre world where the PS3 had more games than the 360 I am not going to comply as that doesn't exist in our universe.

I posted that my 360 experience and in my first post the 360 had more games. I was here to speak about the spreadsheet. I was merely pointing out the Spreadsheet was misused, that was it. You didn't read my first post in this thread, or you didn't understand my posts.

This post feels redundant to me, but I know something was lost in translation, so I'm making sure it gets through this time around. :P I know you were debating with someone else before I posted, perhaps you should quote that person again. I only inserted myself when I saw the spreadsheet link and I was making a sidenote for all of SW.

I dug up my first post, check it out :

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SolidTy : "Just so SW is aware, the spreadsheet isn't made for comparing systems total games libraries. Many multiplatform games are reviewed on one platform despite the fact it's a multiplatform game. For instance, Rockband 3 is only listed as a 360 game in that list. That's one of many games. Another example is the PC library is full of DLC, but counted as single games. Some indie games like Braid are counted on the PC list, but DO NOT count for the 360/PS3 list. It's COMPLETELY broken for that type of comparison.

That's because that list was NEVER intended to be misused in an argument like this.

It's a great list FOR looking at EXCLUSIVES and comparing those if you wish, but for trying to prove more multiplat games or MORE TOTAL Games as you did above.

I'm not involved in the argument as the 360 does have more games. I bought two 360's back in 2005. It's obvious as the 360 was out on the market for a full year first. However, I'm here to tell you and those that don't understand, the SW spreadsheet list wasn't designed for a comparison of what has more games. You'll never get an accurate answer that way, ever."

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I only spoke in this thread for the main purpose of talking about the Spreadsheet. I'm not here to debate against my 360 or PS3 consoles.

[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I'm not arguing in this thread for or against any machine as I own both, if that's what you mean by contradicts. I just wanted to educate the use of the Spreadsheet, as it's a nice tool for looking at Exclusives reviewed by GS (AAAE, AAE, etc) and that's about it. :P Also, found in the wiki link, just so you know : "This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness" on both pages. Again, just a heads up, it's probably the best list so far in the thread although it's flawed. I saw some history of those pages, and some strange stuff happens. For instance, someone incorrectly inserted Xbox CIassic Fable 1 as a 360 game for instance, just strange happenings.

SolidTy

We are not on the same page.

That "360-having-more-PS3-games-trend" you speak of, I told you a few times in this thread I'm fully aware the 360 has more games. In my first post I said as much. I clearly know of it first hand since 2005 and my long, long time here in SW. You must have me mistaken with another user who doesn't clearly know the facts. I merely came in to speak of the Spreadsheet being incorrectly utilized.

The simple request about posting something PS3 vs 360 in some sort of bizarre world where the PS3 had more games than the 360 I am not going to comply as that doesn't exist.

I told you the 360 has more games in my first post in this thread, I was merely pointing out the Spreadsheet was misused, that was it. You didn't read my first post in this thread, or you didn't understand my posts.

I dug up my first post, check it out :

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SolidTy : "Just so SW is aware, the spreadsheet isn't made for comparing systems total games libraries. Many multiplatform games are reviewed on one platform despite the fact it's a multiplatform game. For instance, Rockband 3 is only listed as a 360 game in that list. That's one of many games. Another example is the PC library is full of DLC, but counted as single games. Some indie games like Braid are counted on the PC list, but DO NOT count for the 360/PS3 list. It's COMPLETELY broken for that type of comparison.

That's because that list was NEVER intended to be misused in an argument like this.

It's a great list FOR looking at EXCLUSIVES and comparing those if you wish, but for trying to prove more multiplat games or MORE TOTAL Games as you did above.

I'm not involved in the argument as the 360 does have more games. I bought two 360's back in 2005. It's obvious as the 360 was out on the market for a full year first. However, I'm here to tell you and those that don't understand, the SW spreadsheet list wasn't designed for a comparison of what has more games. You'll never get an accurate answer that way, ever."

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I only spoke in this thread for the main purpose of talking about the Spreadsheet. I'm not here to debate against my 360 or PS3 consoles.

I'm not trying to get you to argue over which system is better, I am trying to get you to show me a source that contradicts the overall data found in what I provided seeing is that you believe the sources are, from what I can understand, incorrect.

*edit* I should state that my original post linking to the spread sheet was a response to someones shortsighted argument in regards to the 360 having more games by saying 'lol, no'. I provided evidence that indicated the 360 had more games which was more than what the one liner provided. I believe you unintentionally bit the bait lol.

[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I'm not arguing in this thread for or against any machine as I own both, if that's what you mean by contradicts. I just wanted to educate the use of the Spreadsheet, as it's a nice tool for looking at Exclusives reviewed by GS (AAAE, AAE, etc) and that's about it. :P Also, found in the wiki link, just so you know : "This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness" on both pages. Again, just a heads up, it's probably the best list so far in the thread although it's flawed. I saw some history of those pages, and some strange stuff happens. For instance, someone incorrectly inserted Xbox CIassic Fable 1 as a 360 game for instance, just strange happenings.

SolidTy

We are not on the same page.

That "360-having-more-PS3-games-trend" you speak of, I told you a few times in this thread I'm fully aware the 360 has more games. The 360 released a full year before the PS3, and never has the PS3 passed the 360 in games, and never did I ever believe the PS3 would since 2005. So, that's not an argument I would side with or agree to since I already know that answer long ago. Considering how many 360 games I own, and considering what my job is in RL, this isn't a debate as I know the answer. In my first post I said as much. I clearly know of it first hand since 2005 my two 360 purchases and my long, long time here in SW. You must have me mistaken with another user who doesn't clearly know the facts. I merely came in to speak of the Spreadsheet being incorrectly utilized. I am on the Spreadsheet link at the top of the page, and I just wanted to inform about the spreadsheet, not engage in a PS360 console debate (one that quite frankly is old hashed out material so it bores me frankly).

The simple request about posting something PS3 vs 360 in some sort of bizarre world where the PS3 had more games than the 360 I am not going to comply as that doesn't exist in our universe.

I posted that my 360 experience and in my first post the 360 had more games. I was here to speak about the spreadsheet. I was merely pointing out the Spreadsheet was misused, that was it. You didn't read my first post in this thread, or you didn't understand my posts.

This post feels redundant to me, but I know something was lost in translation, so I'm making sure it gets through this time around. :P I know you were debating with someone else before I posted, perhaps you should quote that person again. I only inserted myself when I saw the spreadsheet link and I was making a sidenote for all of SW.

I dug up my first post, check it out :

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SolidTy : "Just so SW is aware, the spreadsheet isn't made for comparing systems total games libraries. Many multiplatform games are reviewed on one platform despite the fact it's a multiplatform game. For instance, Rockband 3 is only listed as a 360 game in that list. That's one of many games. Another example is the PC library is full of DLC, but counted as single games. Some indie games like Braid are counted on the PC list, but DO NOT count for the 360/PS3 list. It's COMPLETELY broken for that type of comparison.

That's because that list was NEVER intended to be misused in an argument like this.

It's a great list FOR looking at EXCLUSIVES and comparing those if you wish, but for trying to prove more multiplat games or MORE TOTAL Games as you did above.

I'm not involved in the argument as the 360 does have more games. I bought two 360's back in 2005. It's obvious as the 360 was out on the market for a full year first. However, I'm here to tell you and those that don't understand, the SW spreadsheet list wasn't designed for a comparison of what has more games. You'll never get an accurate answer that way, ever."

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I only spoke in this thread for the main purpose of talking about the Spreadsheet. I'm not here to debate against my 360 or PS3 consoles.

Dude no one wants to read your essays.

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[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]Regardless of the flaws, there is definitely a trend in the info provided. I post above is just a simple request to post something that states the PS3 has more games than the 360 is all.

slimjimbadboy

We are not on the same page.

That "360-having-more-PS3-games-trend" you speak of, I told you a few times in this thread I'm fully aware the 360 has more games. In my first post I said as much. I clearly know of it first hand since 2005 and my long, long time here in SW. You must have me mistaken with another user who doesn't clearly know the facts. I merely came in to speak of the Spreadsheet being incorrectly utilized.

The simple request about posting something PS3 vs 360 in some sort of bizarre world where the PS3 had more games than the 360 I am not going to comply as that doesn't exist.

I told you the 360 has more games in my first post in this thread, I was merely pointing out the Spreadsheet was misused, that was it. You didn't read my first post in this thread, or you didn't understand my posts.

I dug up my first post, check it out :

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SolidTy : "Just so SW is aware, the spreadsheet isn't made for comparing systems total games libraries. Many multiplatform games are reviewed on one platform despite the fact it's a multiplatform game. For instance, Rockband 3 is only listed as a 360 game in that list. That's one of many games. Another example is the PC library is full of DLC, but counted as single games. Some indie games like Braid are counted on the PC list, but DO NOT count for the 360/PS3 list. It's COMPLETELY broken for that type of comparison.

That's because that list was NEVER intended to be misused in an argument like this.

It's a great list FOR looking at EXCLUSIVES and comparing those if you wish, but for trying to prove more multiplat games or MORE TOTAL Games as you did above.

I'm not involved in the argument as the 360 does have more games. I bought two 360's back in 2005. It's obvious as the 360 was out on the market for a full year first. However, I'm here to tell you and those that don't understand, the SW spreadsheet list wasn't designed for a comparison of what has more games. You'll never get an accurate answer that way, ever."

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I only spoke in this thread for the main purpose of talking about the Spreadsheet. I'm not here to debate against my 360 or PS3 consoles.

I'm not trying to get you to argue over which system is better, I am trying to get you to show me a source that contradicts the overall data found in what I provided seeing is that you believe the sources are, from what I can understand, incorrect.

I'm one of the compilers you speak of with regard to the GS spreadsheet. Check the sheet, check the sheet you will see my name at the top. ;) That was my purpose, to instruct the proper use of the spreadsheet as I saw it incorrectly linked in a thread in SW. Your purpose was fine, the misuse of the spreadsheet was my Raison d'être in this thread.

Actually, we can't possibly know that the wiki pages are compiled in a non biased manner. As a matter of fact, they are constantly changing by random users all the time, which is why Wikipedia is not an allowed source to be cited in college or even High School papers. I also said the wiki list is better than the Spreadsheet because wiki isn't limited by GS faults. It of course has it's own problems though, which I wanted to educate you on. The spreadsheet which I'm a part of, is based on GS scores which is fine except that GS doesn't score all games, and for some mulitplat games, they aren't re-reviewed on other platforms.

As far as you seriously doubting the PS3 has 200 missing games, and the 360 has no missing, that's a good bet because the 360 has more games, and it always has since it's launch in 2005. As far as reiterating the 360 has more games, whoever it is doesn't know that, you should find them and let them know. That person exists in this thread I'm sure, and it's up to you to find them. :P

As far as getting a source that contradicts the overall data, I wouldn't dare do that since I don't believe the PS3 has more games and I am not sure why I would try to find such none existant intel. I never said or insinuated that. I just wanted to point out the GS spreadsheet isn't designed for such a list.

I've known for years since 2005 the 360 leads in overall games. It had a full year headstart and kept the momentum to stay ahead. You being rather newer to SW (or a fun going alt having some SolidTy time) are telling me a fact I've told others in SW over the years.

Here's the thing, I have to tell you this. The 360 has more games. Make sure to remember that, it's crucial. That fact hasn't changed in the entire 2005-2012 lifespan of the 360, so if you can find a link proving that the PS3 has more games, please post it. Because the world doesn't know, and it would be a shocking revelation. It would certainly surprise me. :P

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[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]Regardless of the flaws, there is definitely a trend in the info provided. I post above is just a simple request to post something that states the PS3 has more games than the 360 is all.

RR360DD

We are not on the same page.

That "360-having-more-PS3-games-trend" you speak of, I told you a few times in this thread I'm fully aware the 360 has more games. The 360 released a full year before the PS3, and never has the PS3 passed the 360 in games, and never did I ever believe the PS3 would since 2005. So, that's not an argument I would side with or agree to since I already know that answer long ago. Considering how many 360 games I own, and considering what my job is in RL, this isn't a debate as I know the answer. In my first post I said as much. I clearly know of it first hand since 2005 my two 360 purchases and my long, long time here in SW. You must have me mistaken with another user who doesn't clearly know the facts. I merely came in to speak of the Spreadsheet being incorrectly utilized. I am on the Spreadsheet link at the top of the page, and I just wanted to inform about the spreadsheet, not engage in a PS360 console debate (one that quite frankly is old hashed out material so it bores me frankly).

The simple request about posting something PS3 vs 360 in some sort of bizarre world where the PS3 had more games than the 360 I am not going to comply as that doesn't exist in our universe.

I posted that my 360 experience and in my first post the 360 had more games. I was here to speak about the spreadsheet. I was merely pointing out the Spreadsheet was misused, that was it. You didn't read my first post in this thread, or you didn't understand my posts.

This post feels redundant to me, but I know something was lost in translation, so I'm making sure it gets through this time around. :P I know you were debating with someone else before I posted, perhaps you should quote that person again. I only inserted myself when I saw the spreadsheet link and I was making a sidenote for all of SW.

I dug up my first post, check it out :

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SolidTy : "Just so SW is aware, the spreadsheet isn't made for comparing systems total games libraries. Many multiplatform games are reviewed on one platform despite the fact it's a multiplatform game. For instance, Rockband 3 is only listed as a 360 game in that list. That's one of many games. Another example is the PC library is full of DLC, but counted as single games. Some indie games like Braid are counted on the PC list, but DO NOT count for the 360/PS3 list. It's COMPLETELY broken for that type of comparison.

That's because that list was NEVER intended to be misused in an argument like this.

It's a great list FOR looking at EXCLUSIVES and comparing those if you wish, but for trying to prove more multiplat games or MORE TOTAL Games as you did above.

I'm not involved in the argument as the 360 does have more games. I bought two 360's back in 2005. It's obvious as the 360 was out on the market for a full year first. However, I'm here to tell you and those that don't understand, the SW spreadsheet list wasn't designed for a comparison of what has more games. You'll never get an accurate answer that way, ever."

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I only spoke in this thread for the main purpose of talking about the Spreadsheet. I'm not here to debate against my 360 or PS3 consoles.

Dude no one wants to read your essays.

Exactly just drop it.