How can anyone honestly say that the 360 is the better console?

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#301 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

Thank you, thank you very much.

I'm gonna go now and give my PC a gigantic hug LOL

rilpas


I have a gaming PC and not even PC can touch that exclusive lineup

keep telling yourself that, but then again, when you have no games to play I guess any old crap looks good



Old crap? LOL delusional fanboy.

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And no games? I have plenty of them, probably more so than you because i know i really have alot of games. Right now i'm playing Demon's Souls a great PS3 exclusive

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#302 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]i say we build a dam to keep all the lemming tears togetherjun_aka_pekto

And I say we build an asylum,to keep cows like you together :)

Gotta give credit though. The dam is a good one. I'll have to add it to my list. :lol:

Yeah,it made me chuckle.I'll admit :P

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#303 rilpas
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Old crap? LOL delusional fanboy.

Davekeeh

indeed, all you can do is laugh at the 360's games lists and yet you only list crap yourself, it's hilarious




And no games? I have plenty of them, probably more so than you because i know i really have alot of games. Right now i'm playing Demon's Souls a great PS3 exclusiveDavekeeh

I own close to a 1000 games, but I understand, when you're a PS3 fanboy you have to pretend crap games are good

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#304 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

indeed, all you can do is laugh at the 360's games lists and yet you only list crap yourself, it's hilarious




[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]And no games? I have plenty of them, probably more so than you because i know i really have alot of games. Right now i'm playing Demon's Souls a great PS3 exclusiverilpas

I own close to a 1000 games, but I understand, when you're a PS3 fanboy you have to pretend crap games are good

Yet you list games like Crackdown and Viva Pinataand try to pass them off as good games lmao, so i won't even bother trying to defend myself lol.
1000 games? LOL! You have a bunch of emulators for SEGA and N64 on your PC? lmao I would love to see some proof of that

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Is that your room by any chance?

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#305 rilpas
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Yet you list games like Crackdown and Viva Pinataand try to pass them off as good games lmao,Davekeeh

oh noes, I listed games which got good scores and are generally liked by the people who played them :cry:

and worse, games I actually liked! How dare I have an opinion:cry:

so i won't even bother trying to defend myself lol.Davekeeh
of course not, you got crap and you know it


1000 games? LOL!

Davekeeh

Yes indeedy, want to see my backloggery? :)

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#306 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]oh noes, I listed games which got good scores and are generally liked by the people who played them :cry:

and worse, games I actually liked! How dare I have an opinion:cry:

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]so i won't even bother trying to defend myself lol.rilpas

of course not, you got crap and you know it


1000 games? LOL!

Davekeeh

Yes indeedy, want to see my backloggery? :)

So wait a minute, you say I have to pretend crap games are good, eventhough I mentioned great games with great scores like Metal Gear Solid 4 which got a 10 from Gamespot, yet when I do the same to you, all of a sudden you act like a baby? LOL

I want to see pictures!

And I only buy good games, it is why i got a PS3 and a PC, not a 360

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#307 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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My 360 isn't even hooked up anymore. Tired of paying for Live, but l likely will buy Halo 4. I prefer the ps3 for the simple reasons that it still gets real support, and is a much better built machine. With games, blurays, and Netflix, I think this console might have seen more use than any other piece of electronic I have ever owned.
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#308 rilpas
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So wait a minute, you say I have to pretend crap games are good, eventhough I mentioned great games with great scores, yet when I do the same to you, all of a sudden you act like a baby? LOLDavekeeh

isn't that what you did? you loled at my 360 list even though most of the games there got scores equal or above 8, hell viva pinata has a score in the 80's in both gamespot and metacritic, but because it's a 360 game I guess it doesnt' count amirite?

Iwant to see pictures!

Davekeeh

give me one good reason why I should go to the trouble of taking pictures and uploading them to a blind fanboy such as yourself?

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#309 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="slimjimbadboy"]I'd say I'd expected more from Hype, but I'd be lying.SolidTy

ahahahahahahaha lol

ahahahahaahaha lol

don't write a book! : P

Well said, Solid. Been reading this thread and you make a solid point, yes, pun intended. But more and more here the level of conversation drops. I prefer my 360 ever so slightly to my PS3, because I like the experiences it has given me. I regularly go back to them. But PS3 is an awesome machine. These threads are some of the funniest to me. It seems some people cant wrap their mind around the fact that this whole passion of ours is subjective to individual tastes. They want to prove, objectively, that others are wrong. And how can others be wrong in regards to their movie, book, gaming choices.
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#310 rilpas
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And I only buy good games, it is why i got a PS3 and a PC, not a 360

Davekeeh

"good" last time I checked is subjective

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#311 cainetao11
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Wait, why cant Crackdown be a good game when it has a good score, and is generally regarded by level headed gamers as a good game? Level headed means not in love with just PS3 or Wii, or 360. It is a fun game, imo. There are many stronger games, but that doesnt mean it sucks by any means.
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#312 rilpas
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Wait, why cant Crackdown be a good game when it has a good score, and is generally regarded by level headed gamers as a good game? Level headed means not in love with just PS3 or Wii, or 360. It is a fun game, imo. There are many stronger games, but that doesnt mean it sucks by any means.cainetao11

because it's a 360 exclusive obviously, same goes for Viva pinata, nevermind the fact it got scores even higher then Crackdown and many PS3 exclusives

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#313 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Wait, why cant Crackdown be a good game when it has a good score, and is generally regarded by level headed gamers as a good game? Level headed means not in love with just PS3 or Wii, or 360. It is a fun game, imo. There are many stronger games, but that doesnt mean it sucks by any means.rilpas

because it's a 360 exclusive obviously, same goes for Viva pinata, nevermind the fact it got scores even higher then Crackdown and many PS3 exclusives

Both excellent games and I had more fun & :lol: in Crackdown's co-op sandbox than probably any other sandbox. :)

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#314 rilpas
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1000 games? LOL! You have a bunch of emulators for SEGA and N64 on your PC? lmao I would love to see some proof of that

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Is that your room by any chance?

Davekeeh

1000 games isn't that hard to own, hell on steam alone I have more then 100 games

and I can tell you from experience there are WAY more then 1000 games in that picture

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#315 Bigboi500
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Different strokes for different folks.

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#316 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Wait, why cant Crackdown be a good game when it has a good score, and is generally regarded by level headed gamers as a good game? Level headed means not in love with just PS3 or Wii, or 360. It is a fun game, imo. There are many stronger games, but that doesnt mean it sucks by any means.SecretPolice

because it's a 360 exclusive obviously, same goes for Viva pinata, nevermind the fact it got scores even higher then Crackdown and many PS3 exclusives

Both excellent games and I had more fun & :lol: in Crackdown's co-op sandbox than probably any other sandbox. :)

Exactly. But I guess for some it has to be on their preferred console to be at least a good game. I Prefer Infamous 1&2 to Crackdown, but the prefer my 360 to my PS3 slightly. How can that be?
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#317 Rocker6
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Wait, why cant Crackdown be a good game when it has a good score, and is generally regarded by level headed gamers as a good game? Level headed means not in love with just PS3 or Wii, or 360. It is a fun game, imo. There are many stronger games, but that doesnt mean it sucks by any means.cainetao11

Did I just see some common sense in that post?

Sorry,common sense not allowed on SW.I'm going to have to ask you to leave this place immidiately.You're disturbing our local residents :P

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#318 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]of course not, you got crap and you know it


[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]1000 games? LOL!

Davekeeh

Yes indeedy, want to see my backloggery? :)

So wait a minute, you say I have to pretend crap games are good, eventhough I mentioned great games with great scores like Metal Gear Solid 4 which got a 10 from Gamespot, yet when I do the same to you, all of a sudden you act like a baby? LOL

I want to see pictures!

And I only buy good games, it is why i got a PS3 and a PC, not a 360

if you're going by gamespot, the 360 has only two fewer high scoring exclusives than the ps3.

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#320 ActicEdge
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Wait, why cant Crackdown be a good game when it has a good score, and is generally regarded by level headed gamers as a good game? Level headed means not in love with just PS3 or Wii, or 360. It is a fun game, imo. There are many stronger games, but that doesnt mean it sucks by any means.cainetao11

People have a hard on for graphics and scores. I personally don't get it, if something is fun its served its purpose. To me AAA, AA, A doesn't matter because my enjoyment can't ever be described by a score.

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#321 Riadon2
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I don't know, the only games I'd like from the 360 are also on the PC, which obviously has the far superior version. I'm not interested in very many PS3 exclusives either, but more-so than those of the 360. Their (Non-SW) community is also a lot better, though that isn't saying much.
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#322 delta3074
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]of course not, you got crap and you know it


[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]1000 games? LOL!

Davekeeh

Yes indeedy, want to see my backloggery? :)

So wait a minute, you say I have to pretend crap games are good, eventhough I mentioned great games with great scores like Metal Gear Solid 4 which got a 10 from Gamespot, yet when I do the same to you, all of a sudden you act like a baby? LOL

I want to see pictures!

And I only buy good games, it is why i got a PS3 and a PC, not a 360

you also mentioned games that have not even been released and Folps like GT5 in your list, a game that scored around the same as crackdown, you can't have it both ways,lol
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#323 casharmy
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

It is the best console if you're a Halo fanatic, I guess.

Depends on the games you like really.

waltefmoney

Or if you like western RPG's(the good kind).

...then a gaming PC would be the system of choice which would leave the 360 obsolete because it's library of games consists of mostly inferior PC ports.

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#324 casharmy
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oh noes, I listed games which got good scores and are generally liked by the people who played them:cry:

and worse, games I actually liked! How dare I have an opinion:cry:

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]so i won't even bother trying to defend myself lol.rilpas

of course not, you got crap and you know it


1000 games? LOL!

Davekeeh

Yes indeedy, want to see my backloggery? :)

And yet you said the games he listed were "crap" and they haven't even released or had reviews yet.

You also criticized the list of games he posted that are generally liked by the people who played those games and received BETTER SCORES than the games you listed...so stop being a hypocite moron.

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#325 mynamesdenvrmax
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

how can any one be trying to justify a 6-7 year old purchase?

Davekeeh


Because Beyond: Two Souls comes out on PS3 and it's the best looking game on any platform including PC, i'd even put Heavy Rain up there as well.

There you go. Lost any and all credibility you had. You're now looked at as an insane Sony fanboy. Like the rest. Better looking than any PC game?

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#326 mynamesdenvrmax
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Because Beyond: Two Souls comes out on PS3 and it's the best looking game on any platform including PC, i'd even put Heavy Rain up there as well.

Davekeeh

Heavy Rain looks mediocre now, too inconsistent.


LOL !!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah you are so right this looks so mediocre:

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360 can't even run the game LOL

Sure it could. Its called a Movie, pop in the movie and have a few QTEs that could be performed with a regular remote. The occasional limited sections of "free roam" that give you the illusion of freedom when its really just a good looking, very small sand box.

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#327 o0squishy0o
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Surely after all these years people have had the chance to save up the money to own all consoles? I can understand arguing about new consoles but this is just sad. The playstation 3 has failed in keeping the PS2s audience. They have come in third place. The 360 is lead main console but honestly lacks the decent exclusives in comparrison. Both main consoles lost to the Wii MASSIVELY in sales to a console with what is reguarded to have the worst games.

Honestly if we all stuck with PC the world would be a better place... :P

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#328 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Heavy Rain looks mediocre now, too inconsistent. mynamesdenvrmax


LOL !!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah you are so right this looks so mediocre:


360 can't even run the game LOL

Sure it could. Its called a Movie, pop in the movie and have a few QTEs that could be performed with a regular remote. The occasional limited sections of "free roam" that give you the illusion of freedom when its really just a good looking, very small sand box.


Poor Lems, if the Xbox 360 tried to run a game like Heavy Rain the insane graphics would cause this this to happen:

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#329 clone01
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[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
LOL !!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah you are so right this looks so mediocre:


360 can't even run the game LOL

Davekeeh

Sure it could. Its called a Movie, pop in the movie and have a few QTEs that could be performed with a regular remote. The occasional limited sections of "free roam" that give you the illusion of freedom when its really just a good looking, very small sand box.


Poor Lems, if the Xbox 360 tried to run a game like Heavy Rain the insane graphics would cause this this to happen:

broken-360.jpg

Are you actually proud to be a fanboy, or are you just trolling?
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#330 rilpas
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And yet you said the games he listed were "crap" and they haven't even released or had reviews yet.

You also criticized the list of games he posted that are generally liked by the people who played those games and received BETTER SCORES than the games you listed...so stop being a hypocite moron.

casharmy

which is exactly what he did to me in this thread before I did to him

maybe the next time you should actually read the discussions instead of being a hypocrite moron?

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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I'm looking very forward to PS all stars battle royale actually, and Sly Cooper and the already released Twisted Metal and Starhawk. But besides that we have enough exclusives as it is, in 2013 the 360 will be dead. Either by the exclusives the PS3 brings to the table or the fact that the console will get banned worldwide (it already is banned in Germany)
No platform will be able to beat: Beyond: Two Souls, The Last of Us, God of War: Ascension, Ni No Kuni: The Wrath of the White Witch and more great games that are bound to come out that year

Davekeeh

Thank you, thank you very much.

I'm gonna go now and give my PC a gigantic hug LOL


I have a gaming PC and not even PC can touch that exclusive lineup

What are your specs?

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#332 Riadon2
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

Thank you, thank you very much.

I'm gonna go now and give my PC a gigantic hug LOL

mitu123


I have a gaming PC and not even PC can touch that exclusive lineup

What are your specs?

Why bother asking him when he is so obviously trolling you?
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#333 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I have a gaming PC and not even PC can touch that exclusive lineup

Riadon2

What are your specs?

Why bother asking him when he is so obviously trolling you?

For the lulz.

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#334 withe1982
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I personally think threads like these should be reserved for people who own both consoles. How on earth can you compare the two unless you have played extensively on both.

I've owned a PS3 since launch and an XBOX 360 for around 2 years. My thoughts are:

Games
At the moment it really is a straight tie. Both consoles have some great exclusives. My favorite are Alan Wake, GOW, Heavy Rain and Uncharted. Gameplay is completely relative so it's a dead heat. TIE

Graphics
I've got to say that it's so close on this one but I have to go with the PS3. Not really had enough WOW moments whilst playing on XBOX compared to PS3. GOW3 and Uncharted 2 (and 3 in 3D) are jaw dropping. Still a very close race though. PS3

Controller
360 hands down. more comfortable over extended periods of time and the anologue stick placement is perfect. Build quality is about the same. Prefer the PS3 for charging but with a £10 battery pack then the XBOX is just as good. XBOX 360

Online
Truth is that i've not used XBOX live at all so far so cannot compare. PSN is great though and free. Never had a single problem whilst playing online. Fast and reliable (if you can forgive the hiccups which eventually gave me 6 free games afterwards). N/A

Disk format
short and sweet PS3 bluray wins. LA Noire etc on 3 disks is just ridiculous.PS3

Future
As mentioned countless times the 360 is just about reaching it's full potential after enjoyed a long, happy run. You may not see much more from Microsofts flagship console and I expect the PS3 to exceed what the XBOX is capable of before long (If games like Last Guardian ever see the light of day). However I think the timing of the 720 is perfect compared to Sony's PS4(?) which if released next year comes far to early. XBOX 360

Overall Result
I think it's great we have these two giants of the gaming world pushing each other to produce some of the best games ever made. It would be a sad day when either is layed to rest so the winner of the system wars for 2012 is... THE GAMING PUBLIC

Not so Special mention
Sorry but the WII is **** and the WIIU looks ****ter.;)

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#335 rjdofu
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I personally think threads like these should be reserved for people who own both consoles. How on earth can you compare the two unless you have played extensively on both.

I've owned a PS3 since launch and an XBOX 360 for around 2 years. My thoughts are:

Games
At the moment it really is a straight tie. Both consoles have some great exclusives. My favorite are Alan Wake, GOW, Heavy Rain and Uncharted. Gameplay is completely relative so it's a dead heat. TIE

Graphics
I've got to say that it's so close on this one but I have to go with the PS3. Not really had enough WOW moments whilst playing on XBOX compared to PS3. GOW3 and Uncharted 2 (and 3 in 3D) are jaw dropping. Still a very close race though. PS3

Controller
360 hands down. more comfortable over extended periods of time and the anologue stick placement is perfect. Build quality is about the same. Prefer the PS3 for charging but with a £10 battery pack then the XBOX is just as good. XBOX 360

Online
Truth is that i've not used XBOX live at all so far so cannot compare. PSN is great though and free. Never had a single problem whilst playing online. Fast and reliable (if you can forgive the hiccups which eventually gave me 6 free games afterwards). N/A

Disk format
short and sweet PS3 bluray wins. LA Noire etc on 3 disks is just ridiculous.PS3

Future
As mentioned countless times the 360 is just about reaching it's full potential after enjoyed a long, happy run. You may not see much more from Microsofts flagship console and I expect the PS3 to exceed what the XBOX is capable of before long (If games like Last Guardian ever see the light of day). However I think the timing of the 720 is perfect compared to Sony's PS4(?) which if released next year comes far to early. XBOX 360

Overall Result
I think it's great we have these two giants of the gaming world pushing each other to produce some of the best games ever made. It would be a sad day when either is layed to rest so the winner of the system wars for 2012 is... THE GAMING PUBLIC

Not so Special mention
Sorry but the WII is **** and the WIIU looks ****ter.;)

withe1982
Game: Tie => the LOL Bringing disc format => the LOL, why not put mandatory install also? Future: xbox360 => the LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
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#336 BeardMaster
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360 was much cheaper from the getgo, and had much better online service. So people bought it. thats why sony lost such a massive market share this gen. thats the objective answer, assuming TC wanted an objective answer.
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#337 withe1982
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Game: Tie => the LOL Bringing disc format => the LOL, why not put mandatory install also? Future: xbox360 => the LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.rjdofu

Like ar*eholes everyone has an opinion and I thank you for yours (opinion that is).

Do you also own both consoles?

Games: I can't separate them. what is your opinion. As you just seem to have types LOL a lot.

Disc Format: I tend to install all 360 games anyway so save my consoles motor/laser so I don't see a difference.

Future: maybe should have said XBOX or Microsoft instead of 360 but I stand by that.

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#338 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts
[QUOTE="rjdofu"] Game: Tie => the LOL Bringing disc format => the LOL, why not put mandatory install also? Future: xbox360 => the LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

The xbox 360 started strong,but now is in a weak Halo,Forza Gears recycle mode,2010 Halo Reach,2011 Gears 3,2012 Halo again,and 2 Forza since 2010 as well,next year another Gears. The PS3 meanwhile keeps getting new IP's non stop. Mandatory installs isn't that what you have to do,to be able to play Rage decently on 360.? Because without the install the games has many problems,talking of rage is 3 DVD you know a FPS in 3 DVD,wow...
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#339 Riadon2
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I personally think threads like these should be reserved for people who own both consoles. How on earth can you compare the two unless you have played extensively on both.

I've owned a PS3 since launch and an XBOX 360 for around 2 years. My thoughts are:

Games
At the moment it really is a straight tie. Both consoles have some great exclusives. My favorite are Alan Wake, GOW, Heavy Rain and Uncharted. Gameplay is completely relative so it's a dead heat. TIE

Graphics
I've got to say that it's so close on this one but I have to go with the PS3. Not really had enough WOW moments whilst playing on XBOX compared to PS3. GOW3 and Uncharted 2 (and 3 in 3D) are jaw dropping. Still a very close race though. PS3

Controller
360 hands down. more comfortable over extended periods of time and the anologue stick placement is perfect. Build quality is about the same. Prefer the PS3 for charging but with a £10 battery pack then the XBOX is just as good. XBOX 360

Online
Truth is that i've not used XBOX live at all so far so cannot compare. PSN is great though and free. Never had a single problem whilst playing online. Fast and reliable (if you can forgive the hiccups which eventually gave me 6 free games afterwards). N/A

Disk format
short and sweet PS3 bluray wins. LA Noire etc on 3 disks is just ridiculous.PS3

Future
As mentioned countless times the 360 is just about reaching it's full potential after enjoyed a long, happy run. You may not see much more from Microsofts flagship console and I expect the PS3 to exceed what the XBOX is capable of before long (If games like Last Guardian ever see the light of day). However I think the timing of the 720 is perfect compared to Sony's PS4(?) which if released next year comes far to early. XBOX 360

Overall Result
I think it's great we have these two giants of the gaming world pushing each other to produce some of the best games ever made. It would be a sad day when either is layed to rest so the winner of the system wars for 2012 is... THE GAMING PUBLIC

Not so Special mention
Sorry but the WII is **** and the WIIU looks ****ter.;)

withe1982
Alan Wake isn't an XBOX exclusive anymore, it is also on PC.
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#340 StatusShuffle
Member since 2012 • 1908 Posts

Aside from the games (of which, for me at least, there aren't many in the exclusives department). you have to pay for Live, and now with things like Online passes people who play MP games on the Xbox are paying more than ever. Not only that, but it seems that Kinect is now the main focus, outside a few games like Halo 4. Why would anyone say they support the 360 as a system over other systems?

This is coming from someone who owns an Xbox 360 without Live and has no PS3.

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You don't have to use XBL. Not all games require XBl PS3 introduced online passes. Kinect support since 2011 is beyond awful. A bit late there.