How did Harry Potter get a higher score than Duke Nukem Forever?

just goes to show how bad the game is if its worse than a harry potter gamer

GTSaiyanjin2

Or that it was unfairly judged. Just sayin'.

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just goes to show how bad the game is if its worse than a harry potter gamer

ChubbyGuy40

Or that it was unfairly judged. Just sayin'.

TC, I think it might have something to do with Harry Potter being a better game, but I'm not sure.

Of course the reviewers do have something called an "opinion" and the point of their reviews is to express that alongside their interpretation of a game's failings and successes. In that regard, there are a whole lot of reviewers that would like Harry Potter more then Duke Nukem.

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just goes to show how bad the game is if its worse than a harry potter gamer

ChubbyGuy40

Or that it was unfairly judged. Just sayin'.

Unfairly judged by 44 people? No...I don't think so.

From reading the reviews, Kevin clearly believes HP: DH Part II is a better game, so I don't see why an explanation is needed.

TC, I think it might have something to do with Harry Potter being a better game, but I'm not sure.

Of course the reviewers do have something called an "opinion" and the point of their reviews is to express that alongside their interpretation of a game's failings and successes. In that regard, there are a whole lot of reviewers that would like Harry Potter more then Duke Nukem.

SPYDER0416

From what I can see, Kevin V did think a few segments in the HP game worked quite well while he seemed to think all of Duke Nukem Forever was **** except for stomping on some shruken aliens.

I haven't played DNF, but, at the risk of appearing that I have too much time on my hands, I watched the entire Duke Nukem quick look on Giant Bomb and every section they showed looked quite awful, especially the alien hive parts.

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[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

just goes to show how bad the game is if its worse than a harry potter gamer

15strong

Or that it was unfairly judged. Just sayin'.

Unfairly judged by 44 people? No...I don't think so.

The gamespot review on DNF went too far. The game do not deserve a 3.0 (at least on the PC version).

I would give it a 6.0.

The IGN review on DNF was fair to me, overall.

The reviewe pointed that the shooting on the game is fun (it is), but everything else sucks, and it indeed does. If the duke were a straightfoward shooter without shrunk duke parts, driving and stupid turret sections, would be a way better experience. And the barrel puzzles were totaly unnecesary.

The RC part of the DNF campaign was the most stupid thing I've ever seen in a first person shooter. They abused this shrunk duke thing. That was major let down for me.

Altought I liked the shoot mechanics and weapons of the game. I wish it was only about that, not stupid shrunk duke, puzzles, barrels, dull driving and turret sections.

This is why we need to get rid of scores. Everytime a review comes out people make a thread whining about "How did this game score higher than this game!?! Reviewer is teh fail!" instead of actually, you know, reading the actual review.

Phoenix534

This x 2 billion.

Because in the Reviewer's opinion HP is better than DNF. Not that hard to explain

The gamespot review on DNF went too far. The game do not deserve a 3.0 (at least on the PC version).

I would give it a 6.0.

The IGN review on DNF was fair to me, overall.

The reviewe pointed that the shooting on the game is fun (it is), but everything else sucks, and it indeed does. If the duke were a straightfoward shooter without shrunk duke parts, driving and stupid turret sections, would be a way better experience. And the barrel puzzles were totaly unnecesary.

markko84

The gamespot review on DNF went too far. The game do not deserve a 3.0 (at least on the PC version).

I would give it a 6.0.

The IGN review on DNF was fair to me, overall.

The reviewe pointed that the shooting on the game is fun (it is), but everything else sucks, and it indeed does. If the duke were a straightfoward shooter without shrunk duke parts, driving and stupid turret sections, would be a way better experience. And the barrel puzzles were totaly unnecesary.

markko84

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The gamespot review on DNF went too far. The game do not deserve a 3.0 (at least on the PC version).

I would give it a 6.0.

The IGN review on DNF was fair to me, overall.

The reviewe pointed that the shooting on the game is fun (it is), but everything else sucks, and it indeed does. If the duke were a straightfoward shooter without shrunk duke parts, driving and stupid turret sections, would be a way better experience. And the barrel puzzles were totaly unnecesary.

skrat_01

The fun that I had shooting aliens in DNF (the only fun I had on the game was shooting) is enough to give a 6 on my conception. And the graphics on PC get the job done, they are a little dated and inconsistent (some levels looks great, others ok and others plain bad) but nothing game breaker. The problem for me was more gameplay related, as I stated before.

an 6.0 overall is fair.Its not about protecting an IP or anything, don't know where you get that from.

Because in the Reviewer's opinion HP is better than DNF. Not that hard to explain

EggHeadMan

And after playing a little bit of HP(didn't buy it, god no. There was a display up at the Gamestop I went to a couple of hours ago) I can say that I agree with Kevin on this. HP is a lackluster yet still totally playable third-person shooter. DNF was just bad. Like, really bad.

The fun that I had shooting aliens in DNF (the only fun I had on the game was shooting) is enough to give a 6 on my conception. And the graphics on PC get the job done, they are a little dated and inconsistent (some levels looks great, others ok and others plain bad) but nothing game breaker. The problem for me was more gameplay related, as I stated before.

an 6.0 overall is fair.Its not about protecting an IP or anything, don't know where you get that from.

markko84

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B1

It beat out Duke Nukem Forever. Goes to show GS score of Duke Nukem Forever was truly a JOKE!

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows BETTER than Duke Nukem Forever? Give me a break! :roll:

Xtasy26

[QUOTE="markko84"]

The fun that I had shooting aliens in DNF (the only fun I had on the game was shooting) is enough to give a 6 on my conception. And the graphics on PC get the job done, they are a little dated and inconsistent (some levels looks great, others ok and others plain bad) but nothing game breaker. The problem for me was more gameplay related, as I stated before.

an 6.0 overall is fair.Its not about protecting an IP or anything, don't know where you get that from.

skrat_01

But most people treated the game as poor shooter. DUke wasn't enough to save the game, even from duke fans itself. Of course there's fanboys, but every franchise has them.

And don't think its DNF a bad SHOOTER on the literally sense, but its bad on everything else. And I agree about the identity. The game don't have any. The developers tried to implement everything that happened on fps scene on the last 15 years on mix bag of confusion, bad design and overall lack of polish.

Kevin thinks HP is better. And from what I've seen, I'm inclined to agree.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B1

It beat out Duke Nukem Forever. Goes to show GS score of Duke Nukem Forever was truly a JOKE!

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows BETTER than Duke Nukem Forever? Give me a break! :roll:

Xtasy26

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B1

It beat out Duke Nukem Forever. Goes to show GS score of Duke Nukem Forever was truly a JOKE!

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows BETTER than Duke Nukem Forever? Give me a break! :roll:

Xtasy26

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just goes to show how bad the game is if its worse than a harry potter gamer

ChubbyGuy40

Or that it was unfairly judged. Just sayin'.

Let it rest.

But most people treated the game as poor shooter. DUke wasn't enough to save the game, even from duke fans itself. Of course there's fanboys, but every franchise has them.

And don't think its DNF a bad SHOOTER on the literally sense, but its bad on everything else. And I agree about the identity. The game don't have any. The developers tried to implement everything that happened on fps scene on the last 15 years on mix bag of confusion, bad design and overall lack of polish.

markko84

[QUOTE="markko84"]

But most people treated the game as poor shooter. DUke wasn't enough to save the game, even from duke fans itself. Of course there's fanboys, but every franchise has them.

And don't think its DNF a bad SHOOTER on the literally sense, but its bad on everything else. And I agree about the identity. The game don't have any. The developers tried to implement everything that happened on fps scene on the last 15 years on mix bag of confusion, bad design and overall lack of polish.

skrat_01

I liked the gun fights in the game overall. The 1911 is fun to use, the shotgun has a lot of punch and the ripper is very fun. My fun on DNF drained eveyrtime duke got shrinked or I have to be on a turret.

The RPG looks AWFUL designed, the Devastator is weird looking (feels like a halo wepon), the rail gun is stupid and the Icethrower/shrinker are not fun like they were in Duke 3D.

EDIT: And I couldn''t agree more with your last words. DNF didn't reminded D3D at all. D3D was a fun journey and never got you bored.

And I must point, the DNF is horribly linear.

Simple.

Harry Potter is better than Duke Nukem.

Deal with it.

Maybe be because it didn't take over 15 years to come out.

Its a better game?

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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B1

It beat out Duke Nukem Forever. Goes to show GS score of Duke Nukem Forever was truly a JOKE!

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows BETTER than Duke Nukem Forever? Give me a break! :roll:

sts106mat

Dule Burger? Shrunk duke jumping on the kitchen? I hated that.

Most DNF reviews were just troll reviews. The game is actually quite a lot of fun taken on its own merits.dzimm

Simple.

Harry Potter is better than Duke Nukem.

Deal with it.

EvanTheGamer

I feel sorry for people like you who let reviewers control your opinions and believe they're always definitively correct.

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"] yeah we have all been waiting for 12 years for the green lantern game. DNF was an industry joke, now its just sad. how they thought that it was a good idea to release it like that is beyond me. absolutely appalling, easily the biggest let-down ever. that level on the las vegas tower, wtf....sts106mat

Dule Burger? Shrunk duke jumping on the kitchen? I hated that.

I asked myself, "why am i bothering to play this" during the RC vehicle bit, the alien hive thing started out bad, went ok and then ended bad. the final straw was that stupid tower thing with the tree around it, that is just bad, unimaginative level design and will forever be in the game developers encyclopedia under "how not to do levels in FPS games" i used to think jumping in FPS games was bad, Halo somewhat altered my opinion. DNF didn't change my opinion, i just ejected the disc and got rid.

case in point my local gamestation has about 6 or 7 DNF Limited editions behind the counter, i am talking about the one with the "bust" of Duke, it was priced at £79.99. nobody bought them, they are still there today, priced at £39.99, still not moved any. the game is bad bad bad.

Imagine yourselves working on a game developer

suddenly, the creative deisgner comes to you and says : "Lets put our carachter shrunk out by a alien green thing, then he goes out on a toy RC Car around a cassino jumpig on posters and climbin on card tables and killing ratts on the way," ITs obvious that's gonna suck!

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Simple.

Harry Potter is better than Duke Nukem.

Deal with it.

EvanTheGamer

I feel sorry for people like you who let reviewers control your opinions and believe they're always definitively correct.

Thanks for the damage control but I've played DNF, it was awful.

What DC? I wasn't even hyping DNF. You were implying that since GS gives it a higher score than DNF, then it's better. Reviews are opinions. Usually close-minded, arrogant opinions at that.

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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

I feel sorry for people like you who let reviewers control your opinions and believe they're always definitively correct.

MobilechicaneX

Thanks for the damage control but I've played DNF, it was awful.

What DC? I wasn't even hyping DNF. You were implying that since GS gives it a higher score than DNF, then it's better. Reviews are opinions. Usually close-minded, arrogant opinions at that.

SOmeone is mad that Harry Potter outscored Duke Nukem :P

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Thanks for the damage control but I've played DNF, it was awful.

RyanShazam

What DC? I wasn't even hyping DNF. You were implying that since GS gives it a higher score than DNF, then it's better. Reviews are opinions. Usually close-minded, arrogant opinions at that.

SOmeone is mad that Harry Potter outscored Duke Nukem :P

I wasn't really interested in either. I'm not mad. I just feel sorry for those people who take reviews as fact.

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Thanks for the damage control but I've played DNF, it was awful.

RyanShazam

What DC? I wasn't even hyping DNF. You were implying that since GS gives it a higher score than DNF, then it's better. Reviews are opinions. Usually close-minded, arrogant opinions at that.

SOmeone is mad that Harry Potter is better than Duke Nukem :P

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