How did MS manage to screw up their 2009 so badly?

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#1 teh_cell
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So let me get this straight, the 360 has nothing coming on the exclusive front for months and what it does have isn't looking like AA/AAA material. It's pretty arrogant of them to just sit back and rely on multiplats given that a PS3 price cut could kill that strategy.

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#2 dthach614
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So let me get this straight, the 360 has nothing coming on the exclusive front for months and what it does have isn't looking like AA/AAA material. It's pretty arrogant of them to just sit back and rely on multiplats given that a PS3 price cut could kill that strategy.

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wait after e3 and gdc
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#3 lundy86_4
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Wait for E3, if it gets to that point, with nothing, then we can worry. I do believe they have some games coming in 2009, I just can't remember, as I don't follow it closely

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#4 Floppy_Jim
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It's only March.
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#5 Giancar
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we are in the third month of the year :|
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#6 MrSlippery39
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Just Wait

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#7 mitu123
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There's something called E3, lems just have to wait for it.

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#8 def_mode
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this is where Sony's strategy comes into effect, their long term plan.

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#9 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Why don't we wait 'til the end of the year to start asking suchquestions? :? (and, btw, the 360's year looks amazing).
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#10 teh_cell
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Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

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#11 VanHelsingBoA64
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Just wait.
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#12 lawlessx
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we are 3 months into the new year and already cows think it's over for the 360 in 2009 :|
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#13 yoyo462001
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we are in the third month of the year :|Giancar
i know thats what i find astonishing people are already saying '360 09 = dead'.
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#14 DarkGamer007
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Wait for E3, if it gets to that point, with nothing, then we can worry. I do believe they have some games coming in 2009, I just can't remember, as I don't follow it closely

lundy86_4

Well some games are deffinatley coming from Rare as they are working on four unnanounced projects currently. One of which I'm 90% sure is Perfect Dark 2.

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#15 CYB3R_N1GHTMARE
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this is where Sony's strategy comes into effect, their long term plan.

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Yeah it's working after all i mean there in last place and all.
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#16 lawlessx
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Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

teh_cell
worked for gears of war 2 :wink:
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#17 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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I bet you'd get up and leave a baseball game in the 2nd inning if it was 2-0 because the other team was getting "blown out".

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#18 thinicer
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Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

teh_cell
Blizzard kept Starcraft 2 under wraps for years.
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#19 teh_cell
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Wait for E3, if it gets to that point, with nothing, then we can worry. I do believe they have some games coming in 2009, I just can't remember, as I don't follow it closely

DarkGamer007

Well some games are deffinatley coming from Rare as they are working on four unnanounced projects currently. One of which I'm 90% sure is Perfect Dark 2.

None of which seems scheduled fora 2009 release.
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#20 ActicEdge
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Stupid thinking like this is what turned GDC from a developer conference into a mini fanboyE3 hype game. I'm so disgusted with the conference this year. As for MS, they are fine, its March.

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[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

lawlessx

worked for gears of war 2 :wink:

Onlive, too.

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#22 Floppy_Jim
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Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

teh_cell
Well, we already know about Forza 3 and 2 Rare games. They just haven't been shown yet.
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#23 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Wait for E3, if it gets to that point, with nothing, then we can worry. I do believe they have some games coming in 2009, I just can't remember, as I don't follow it closely

DarkGamer007

Well some games are deffinatley coming from Rare as they are working on four unnanounced projects currently. One of which I'm 90% sure is Perfect Dark 2.

If it's Prefect Dark 2... I may have a breakdown. I miss that game so much on N64

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#24 teh_cell
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[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

thinicer
Blizzard kept Starcraft 2 under wraps for years.

No they didn't.
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#25 teh_cell
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[QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

Floppy_Jim
Well, we already know about Forza 3 and 2 Rare games. They just haven't been shown yet.

Which means no 2009 release for these titles.
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#26 thinicer
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[QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

teh_cell
Blizzard kept Starcraft 2 under wraps for years.

No they didn't.

Ummm...actually, yeah they did. Development of the game began in 2003, shortly after the release of Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne.
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#27 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Which means no 2009 release for these titles.teh_cell
How do you know?
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#28 mitu123
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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Wait for E3, if it gets to that point, with nothing, then we can worry. I do believe they have some games coming in 2009, I just can't remember, as I don't follow it closely

lundy86_4

Well some games are deffinatley coming from Rare as they are working on four unnanounced projects currently. One of which I'm 90% sure is Perfect Dark 2.

If it's Prefect Dark 2... I may have a breakdown. I miss that game so much on N64

What's funny is that it's better than Perfect Dark Zero.
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#29 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

teh_cell

Well, we already know about Forza 3 and 2 Rare games. They just haven't been shown yet.

Which means no 2009 release for these titles.

Gears of War 2 was announced the same year it was released, and on a smaller note, Banjo-Kazooie for the Xbox Live Arcade was announced the same year it released as well.

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#30 subrosian
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Exclusivity doesn't matter - people who already own a system are concerned about what games are coming to it - it doesn't matter if those games are "exclusive". That said, has Halo Wars been completely forgotten? Generally positive reviews (8.2 Meta) and over one million units sold? Whatever - the whole "SW fight" takes precedence over what gamers are actually playing sometimes. It always bothers me when the fights in SW don't reflect reality in the gaming scene.
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#31 Giancar
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

this is where Sony's strategy comes into effect, their long term plan.

CYB3R_N1GHTMARE
Yeah it's working after all i mean there in last place and all.

mostly due price, which has nothing to do with quality software that the ps3 has
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#32 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

teh_cell
Well, we already know about Forza 3 and 2 Rare games. They just haven't been shown yet.

Which means no 2009 release for these titles.

Forza 2 came out 2 years ago, so F 3 is guaranteed for 2009. And Rare release at least 1 game per year.
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#33 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="teh_cell"]

Yes it is March, but you are a fool if you think the development of a major title could be kept totally under wraps.

teh_cell
Well, we already know about Forza 3 and 2 Rare games. They just haven't been shown yet.

Which means no 2009 release for these titles.

again...gears of war 2 was announced at GDC last year :|
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[QUOTE="thinicer"][QUOTE="teh_cell"][QUOTE="thinicer"] Blizzard kept Starcraft 2 under wraps for years.

No they didn't.

Ummm...actually, yeah they did. Development of the game began in 2003, shortly after the release of Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne.

development is always kept under wrap, its common sense.
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#35 teh_cell
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[QUOTE="teh_cell"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] Well, we already know about Forza 3 and 2 Rare games. They just haven't been shown yet.lawlessx
Which means no 2009 release for these titles.

again...gears of war 2 was announced at GDC last year :|

Gears 2 was widely know about prior to that. The problem now is that there isn't a peep about coming titles.

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#36 Deathtransit
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I really don't like how games like Alan Wake and ME2 aren't considered exclusives. They are console exclusives and will only be out on Microsoft platforms. They should be considered exclusive if they don't come out on a Sony or Nin console, and vice versa (MLB the show) . I bought a PS3 near launch (60GB) and don't have a high end PC so I got a 360 to play games like ME and Gears.
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#37 immortality20
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Teh_Cell, every day I see you make such annoying threads I want to scream. You have nothing but a very horrible bias opinion and I feel sorry for you that this what you want to write about every day.

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#38 thinicer
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Why do Sony fanboys seem to be the ones who are most outraged and outspoken by the lack of announced exclusives for the 360 in 2009?

Just asking.

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#39 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="teh_cell"] Which means no 2009 release for these titles.teh_cell

again...gears of war 2 was announced at GDC last year :|

Gears 2 was widely know about prior to that. The problem now is that there isn't a peep about coming titles.

nobody knew a thing about gears of war 2 before it was officially announced GDC 08 :| and the point is it was announced last year and was released the same here..what makes you think that can't happen again this year?
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#40 BioShockOwnz
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It's March. If cows can wait 2 years to get a worthy game, then lems can wait 6 months to get worthy games on top of their already worthy games.

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#41 Giancar
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Why do Sony fanboys seem to be the ones who are most outraged and outspoken by the lack of announced exclusives for the 360 in 2009?

Just asking.

thinicer
fanboys will be always the same, despite the the faction they side with 07 and mid 08 were plagued with threads asking about the "lack of ps3 games"
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#42 mitu123
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Why do Sony fanboys seem to be the ones who are most outraged and outspoken by the lack of announced exclusives for the 360 in 2009?

Just asking.

thinicer
Yeah, I thought they don't care about exclusives on other systems.
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#43 lawlessx
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Why do Sony fanboys seem to be the ones who are most outraged and outspoken by the lack of announced exclusives for the 360 in 2009?

Just asking.

thinicer
lemmings know microsoft will start announcing games later this year to keep up the pattern they started last year. cows know deep down that microsoft will indeed start showing off they're 2009 lineup...they rather just pretend microsoft has nothing and have alittle fun with the lemmings.
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it doesnt make any sense to "wait until E3"...is microsoft against early publicity or something? the most i see as maybe a "surprise", will be at MOST, 1 game. if anything
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#45 lawlessx
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It's March. If cows can wait 2 years to get a worthy game, then lems can wait 6 months to get worthy games on top of their already worthy games.

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i agree 100%
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#46 Andrew_Xavier
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They all ready have a hot selling AA title (Halo Wars), if you are claiming they universally screwed up, at least use universal ratings like gamerankings or metacritic.

Keep in mind, if you only count AAe/AAAe as good titles, than both companies have only released one "good" game each this year.

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#47 PSdual_wielder
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Microsoft didn't screw up at all, Sony is just doing better. :)

And yea, wait till after GDC and then E3 to see what both sides REALLY have to offer.

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#48 GwannaSauna
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If that person buys a PS3, they'll have no money left for games. So, you're still incorrect.

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#49 lawlessx
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it doesnt make any sense to "wait until E3"...is microsoft against early publicity or something? the most i see as maybe a "surprise", will be at MOST, 1 game. if anythingPS3Fanaddict

yeah..microsoft will announce ONE game for the rest of 09. :roll:

http://720games.blogspot.com/2009/01/microsoft-we-have-lot-planned-for-2009.html

"Yes, it's a big year for Halo fans starting with Halo Wars and then Halo 3: ODST, but if you look back at January 2008 when we started the year you'll see that as a company, our philosophy is that we try to under promise and over deliver," Greenberg told G4.

"We tend to save things until they're much closer to being ready to be brought to market, and I think that that is a little different than traditionally how this industry has worked."

He added: "Take the NXE for example. We showed it at E3 and a few months later we launched. We announced a lot of games at E3 that came at holiday - Lips, You're in the Movies, Scene It. We have a lot planned for 2009, but we absolutely have not shared what our line-up looks like."

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[QUOTE="CYB3R_N1GHTMARE"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

this is where Sony's strategy comes into effect, their long term plan.

Yeah it's working after all i mean there in last place and all.

If Microsoft doesn't show anything interesting soon and the PS3 gets a price cut somehow, you will see how Sony's long term plan takes place, I can assure you. But whatever like I care for Sony's profits.