How does it feel knowing this.........is stronger than all your consoles?

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#1 Painballz
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Price $199 (ATI 4850) Would easily run MGS4 the way Kojima invisioned it in real HD 60+ FPS with ease (The way Kojima invisioned it :))

Will run any game maxed in REAL HD

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Xbox 360 runs an X1900 2 years old and incredibly weak by today's standards

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PS3 runs a 7800 GTX also 2 years old and incredibly weak by today's standards

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I'll play the devils advocate here.... "It doesn't feel too bad as only having a video card doesn't do much good. It's like owning a console controller without the console."
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#4 Amit_Raj
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how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast
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#5 Painballz
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how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast Amit_Raj

Really? Thats why people with 8800 from 06 still runs games high-maxed in REAL HD right?

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#6 skrat_01
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Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

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#7 Painballz
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Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

skrat_01

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

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Where do i put the game disc???? :?
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#10 The_Dan_K
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Helps me none. Like a lot of households, my main HDTV is in the family room while my main PC is in the office.
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How come PS3 can run Assasin's Creed with that Geforce and I cant with the same one (Well I can't max it nor medium only low)... And the Ps3 has what 512 ram, and on Pc I need like 6X that... I really don't get it.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

Painballz

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

but what if your stuck with AGP.....

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#14 Painballz
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How come PS3 can run Assasin's Creed with that Geforce and I cant with the same one (Well I can't max it nor medium only low)... And the Ps3 has what 512 ram, and on Pc I need like 6X that... I really don't get it.haris12121212

Ubisoft sucks at porting console games to PC.

This has been known for a while, Splinter Cell and RSV were both badly optimized for PC

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#15 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

doobie1975

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

but what if your stuck with AGP.....

If your using AGP, there is a 8800 GS available for $180 which is a AGP 8 series card

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#16 prodiqy32
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it feels good because i didnt have to spen $1000 to go with the video card.
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#17 JLF1
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Totally indifferent, because i can play Alan Wake, Fallout 3, Project Offset on my 360

and PC does not have Fable 2, Too Human, Ninja Gadien 2, Lost odyssey, Cry On, infinite Undisocovery

With 360 i have all the best looking games, with PC half

So why would i care if PC gets a card 1000x faster, when PC gamers get the power, and i get ALL the best looking games ????

Painballz

Project Offset isn't coming to 360 since Intel bought the company.

Also will any of those sub par titles run in HD? Or just 600p? (lawlz)

Alan Wake and Fallout 3 will look way better on PC.

A X1900 can only get you so far, consoles don't magically get stronger


You must hate Fallout, baldurs gate, starcraft, half life and warcraft then as none of these games have any great graphics anymore.


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#18 Painballz
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it feels good because i didnt have to spen $1000 to go with the video card.prodiqy32

This cost $1000?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133205

Learn how to count

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I can play games on my graphics card?
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

doobie1975

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

but what if your stuck with AGP.....

Or you have an old CPU that bottlenecks the video cards performance, and you are stuck on a socket that isnt supported anymore.
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#21 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Totally indifferent, because i can play Alan Wake, Fallout 3, Project Offset on my 360

and PC does not have Fable 2, Too Human, Ninja Gadien 2, Lost odyssey, Cry On, infinite Undisocovery

With 360 i have all the best looking games, with PC half

So why would i care if PC gets a card 1000x faster, when PC gamers get the power, and i get ALL the best looking games ????

JLF1

Project Offset isn't coming to 360 since Intel bought the company.

Also will any of those sub par titles run in HD? Or just 600p? (lawlz)

Alan Wake and Fallout 3 will look way better on PC.

A X1900 can only get you so far, consoles don't magically get stronger


You must hate Fallout, baldurs gate, starcraft, half life and warcraft then as none of these games have any great graphics anymore.


I'm not a graphics *****, just saying that this little card is capable of providing real HD with higher frames than 360

Example: ME on 360 bad frames, PC 8800 GT 60 FPS locked in HD

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You must hate Fallout, baldurs gate, starcraft, half life and warcraft then as none of these games have any great graphics anymore.


JLF1
I thought it was the console fanboys who screamed gameplay > graphics ever since Crysis was announced.

edit*

Oh wait I see your point

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#23 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Totally indifferent, because i can play Alan Wake, Fallout 3, Project Offset on my 360

and PC does not have Fable 2, Too Human, Ninja Gadien 2, Lost odyssey, Cry On, infinite Undisocovery

With 360 i have all the best looking games, with PC half

So why would i care if PC gets a card 1000x faster, when PC gamers get the power, and i get ALL the best looking games ????

Painballz

Project Offset isn't coming to 360 since Intel bought the company.

Also will any of those sub par titles run in HD? Or just 600p? (lawlz)

Alan Wake and Fallout 3 will look way better on PC.

A X1900 can only get you so far, consoles don't magically get stronger


You must hate Fallout, baldurs gate, starcraft, half life and warcraft then as none of these games have any great graphics anymore.


I'm not a graphics *****, just saying that this little card is capable of providing real HD with higher frames than 360

Example: ME on 360 bad frames, PC 8800 GT 60 FPS locked in HD


Then can I ask you why you called all these 360 games sub par games because they didn't have 1080P?
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#24 Serbiam
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How does it feel to have games that look just as good come out on consoles first....(ports)

How does it feel to have to regulary update your PC system to keep up with games? MORE MONEY? YES OH YES!

how does it feel to have to optimizing settings for certain machines to better run the game?

How does it feel not to be able to pop in and play?

how does it feel not to get some of the best exclusives ONLY consoles have?

how does it feel knowing PC isn't soley built for games?

..???

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#25 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Totally indifferent, because i can play Alan Wake, Fallout 3, Project Offset on my 360

and PC does not have Fable 2, Too Human, Ninja Gadien 2, Lost odyssey, Cry On, infinite Undisocovery

With 360 i have all the best looking games, with PC half

So why would i care if PC gets a card 1000x faster, when PC gamers get the power, and i get ALL the best looking games ????

JLF1

Project Offset isn't coming to 360 since Intel bought the company.

Also will any of those sub par titles run in HD? Or just 600p? (lawlz)

Alan Wake and Fallout 3 will look way better on PC.

A X1900 can only get you so far, consoles don't magically get stronger


You must hate Fallout, baldurs gate, starcraft, half life and warcraft then as none of these games have any great graphics anymore.


I'm not a graphics *****, just saying that this little card is capable of providing real HD with higher frames than 360

Example: ME on 360 bad frames, PC 8800 GT 60 FPS locked in HD


Then can I ask you why you called all these 360 games sub par games because they didn't have 1080P?

The games are just rehashes and the same old same old, PC has way more than sensless hack and slash

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#26 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I still don't care about PC gaming. Sorry that you wasted your time.
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#27 osan0
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how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast Amit_Raj

that argument is as falwed as the TCs argument. ure saying that its outdated in 6 months and are probably insinuating that PC gamer will need to upgrade....which is absolute nonsense. and if thats outdated in 6 months then just think how far behind the ball the consoles are? they already are old hat from a technical standpoint, cutting edge in absolutely no area what so ever. yes consoles last 3-4 years but there already out of date from a technical standpoint.

and TC, a gpu is not going to single handedly beat a console....it doesnet run the entire game on its own. u still need therest of the PC. so im not sure what ure trying to prove here. also the 360 does not run an x1900 anything...its basically a HD 2400. still a rubbish card by PC standards granted...but thats basically what it is. also both the x1900 and the 7800 are very respectable cards that put out some pretty good performance. there not going to max crysis but theyll put on a good show none the less.

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#28 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]
You must hate Fallout, baldurs gate, starcraft, half life and warcraft then as none of these games have any great graphics anymore.


skrat_01
I thought it was the console fanboys who screamed gameplay > graphics ever since Crysis was announced.


Then why was Crysis the most hyped PC game by the hermits last year?
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#29 Painballz
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How does it feel to have games that look just as good come out on consoles first....(ports)

How does it feel to have to regulary update your PC system to keep up with games? MORE MONEY? YES OH YES!

how does it feel to have to optimizing settings for certain machines to better run the game?

How does it feel not to be able to pop in and play?

how does it feel not to get some of the best exclusives ONLY consoles have?

how does it feel knowing PC isn't soley built for games?

..???

Serbiam

Regularly Update? I havent upgraded my PC in 1.5 years and it runs every game maxed 4xaa 8af at 1680x1050 60 fps +

Having to optimize settings? You just choose high which most PC gamers will (8800 and 9600 gt selling like hotcakes)

I'm glad that we don't have to pop in and play, because we get free maps and mods for installing games. (example: we have like 50+ COD 4 maps and hundreds in development while you have to tilll sometime in Spring for 3 maps!!!)

PC is soley built for games? A console is a watered down PC with restrictions and p2p online play. enjoy that

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#30 DireToad
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Video cards are such cool looking little devices.

I wonder how much design actually goes into their visual presentation.
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#31 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Amit_Raj"]how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast osan0

that argument is as falwed as the TCs argument. ure saying that its outdated in 6 months and are probably insinuating that PC gamer will need to upgrade....which is absolute nonsense. and if thats outdated in 6 months then just think how far behind the ball the consoles are? they already are old hat from a technical standpoint, cutting edge in absolutely no area what so ever. yes consoles last 3-4 years but there already out of date from a technical standpoint.

and TC, a gpu is not going to single handedly beat a console....it doesnet run the entire game on its own. u still need therest of the PC. so im not sure what ure trying to prove here. also the 360 does not run an x1900 anything...its basically a HD 2400. still a rubbish card by PC standards granted...but thats basically what it is. also both the x1900 and the 7800 are very respectable cards that put out some pretty good performance. there not going to max crysis but theyll put on a good show none the less.

Core 2 series range from $120-200+ you happy?

Ram is cheap

Mobo's are cheap

Cases are cheap

There ya go

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#32 JPOBS
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I'll play the devils advocate here.... "It doesn't feel too bad as only having a video card doesn't do much good. It's like owning a console controller without the console."Ibacai
This thread is mother****in' over.
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How does it feel to have games that look just as good come out on consoles first....(ports)

How does it feel to have to regulary update your PC system to keep up with games? MORE MONEY? YES OH YES!

how does it feel to have to optimizing settings for certain machines to better run the game?

How does it feel not to be able to pop in and play?

how does it feel not to get some of the best exclusives ONLY consoles have?

how does it feel knowing PC isn't soley built for games?

..???

Serbiam

As much as I dislike TCs topic your post is just as bad.....

1. The PC 'ports' of certain console games look much better on PC. Hate to burst your bubble. Same with multiplat titles.

2. Reularly update your PC? You dont HAVE to, and you dont need to, especially with the grossly overpowered hardware that dishes out amazing performance for a low price - like the 8800GT, and cheap Core 2 Duos (and DDR2 ram). Personally I hardly ever upgrade. No point, everything runs on my system, only upgrade when its really lacking.

3. 'optimise settings' for each game? Uh setting the native res, then just turning all options to high? Oooook. At least you can scale performance per visuals how you please, rather than being stuck with an appaling framrare (ala Mass Effect on 360).

4. Console exclusives, PC exclusives. Big deal. The PC has the most AAAEs and AAEs (let alone AEs), so its the single most strong system when it comes to titles. If you rather different games fine.

5. Not soley build for games?..... It feels just fine because it plays games better than the PS3 and 360 - with all its control options, hardware, usermade content and online capabilities.....

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#34 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]


Then can I ask you why you called all these 360 games sub par games because they didn't have 1080P? Painballz

The games are just rehashes and the same old same old, PC has way more than sensless hack and slash



So Starcraft 2,Red Alert 3, Fallout 3, Half Life 2: Episode 3 aren't rehashing?

Please, do you really think games that are not sequels are rehashes:lol:
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Then why was Crysis the most hyped PC game by the hermits last year?JLF1
Aside from its visuals / tech the hermits kept stressing how good the gameplay would be.

They were right.

9.5 and FPSGOTY does speek volumes.

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#36 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="JLF1"]


Then can I ask you why you called all these 360 games sub par games because they didn't have 1080P? JLF1

The games are just rehashes and the same old same old, PC has way more than sensless hack and slash



So Starcraft 2,Red Alert 3, Fallout 3, Half Life 2: Episode 3 aren't rehashing?

Please, do you really think games that are not sequels are rehashes:lol:

Sequels of these games don't come out every year or two unlike the ones you listed

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[QUOTE="JLF1"]
Then why was Crysis the most hyped PC game by the hermits last year?skrat_01

Aside from its visuals / tech the hermits kept stressing how good the gameplay would be.

They were right.

9.5 and FPSGOTY does speek volumes.

agreed

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[QUOTE="Amit_Raj"]how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast Painballz

Really? Thats why people with 8800 from 06 still runs games high-maxed in REAL HD right?

Just curious, how much was that card then?

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How do i feel? I don't care in the least because i own a Wii and consider great graphics to be a nice addition to a game. Have fun playing WOW for the next twelve hours.

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#40 Painballz
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How do i feel? I don't care in the least because i own a Wii and consider great graphics to be a nice addition to a game. Have fun playing WOW for the next twelve hours.

Head_of_games

Wii!!?! Anyone who thinks WIi has great graphics is most likely blind, all I see in the Wii is a redesigned GC with wrist flicking controls

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#41 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]
Then why was Crysis the most hyped PC game by the hermits last year?skrat_01

Aside from its visuals / tech the hermits kept stressing how good the gameplay would be.

They were right.

9.5 and FPSGOTY does speek volumes.


Oblivion got 9.3 on PC and an Editor's choice emblem. Think about that for a moment and what you said in a previous thread.

The only reason hermits hyped the games was because they wanted to smack the "PC is were the real graphics are" statement.
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#42 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="Amit_Raj"]how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast teufelherz

Really? Thats why people with 8800 from 06 still runs games high-maxed in REAL HD right?

Just curious, how much was that card then?

$299

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#43 pieatorium
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="JLF1"]


Then can I ask you why you called all these 360 games sub par games because they didn't have 1080P? JLF1

The games are just rehashes and the same old same old, PC has way more than sensless hack and slash



So Starcraft 2,Red Alert 3, Fallout 3, Half Life 2: Episode 3 aren't rehashing?

Please, do you really think games that are not sequels are rehashes:lol:

Technically Fallut 3 isnt a rehash since its by a completely different dev team in a different perspective, no longer turned based and alot of other changes to what the previous titles in the franchise were. You could say that now its just a shooter rehashing an old franchise but its not technically a shooter since your attributes affect hit chances etc.

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#44 DireToad
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How do i feel? I don't care in the least because i own a Wii and consider great graphics to be a nice addition to a game. Have fun playing WOW for the next twelve hours.

Head_of_games

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=5&mode=all&sort=score&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc

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#45 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="JLF1"]


Then can I ask you why you called all these 360 games sub par games because they didn't have 1080P? Painballz

The games are just rehashes and the same old same old, PC has way more than sensless hack and slash



So Starcraft 2,Red Alert 3, Fallout 3, Half Life 2: Episode 3 aren't rehashing?

Please, do you really think games that are not sequels are rehashes:lol:

Sequels of these games don't come out every year or two unlike the ones you listed



6 of 7 games are new games and not part of a franchise. What sequels are you talking about? Ninja Gaiden 2? a sequel to a AAA game:lol:
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="JLF1"]


Then can I ask you why you called all these 360 games sub par games because they didn't have 1080P? JLF1

The games are just rehashes and the same old same old, PC has way more than sensless hack and slash



So Starcraft 2,Red Alert 3, Fallout 3, Half Life 2: Episode 3 aren't rehashing?

Please, do you really think games that are not sequels are rehashes:lol:

You must be misinformed of what rehashes are. They are called sequels/expansions.

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#47 Painballz
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How do i feel? I don't care in the least because i own a Wii and consider great graphics to be a nice addition to a game. Have fun playing WOW for the next twelve hours.

DireToad

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=5&mode=all&sort=score&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc

Dude, sick ownage

Diretoad is the man!!!

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#48 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]
Then why was Crysis the most hyped PC game by the hermits last year?JLF1

Aside from its visuals / tech the hermits kept stressing how good the gameplay would be.

They were right.

9.5 and FPSGOTY does speek volumes.


Oblivion got 9.3 on PC and an Editor's choice emblem. Think about that for a moment and what you said in a previous thread.

The only reason hermits hyped the games was because they wanted to smack the "PC is were the real graphics are" statement.

And Oblivion was not a great RPG role playing game rather an action fantasy game. I still think its an AAA game :|

What were you expecting me to say :|

And the 'real graphics' - ala technical power will ALWAYS be dominant on PC. Consoles cannot compete in that department, everyone should know that.

hermits hyped Crysis because it was going to be a stellar shooter, console fanboys argued it was going to be all flash and no substance - like what happened to Doom 3. The Hermits were right.

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#49 Painballz
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]
Then why was Crysis the most hyped PC game by the hermits last year?skrat_01

Aside from its visuals / tech the hermits kept stressing how good the gameplay would be.

They were right.

9.5 and FPSGOTY does speek volumes.


Oblivion got 9.3 on PC and an Editor's choice emblem. Think about that for a moment and what you said in a previous thread.

The only reason hermits hyped the games was because they wanted to smack the "PC is were the real graphics are" statement.

And Oblivion was not a great RPG role playing game rather an action fantasy game. I still think its an AAA games :|

What were you expecting?

And the 'real graphics' - ala technical power will ALWAYS be dominant on PC. Consoles cannot compete in that department, everyone should know that.

hermits hyped Crysis because it was going to be a stellar shooter, console fanboys argued it was going to be all flash and no substance - like what happened to Doom 3. The Hermits were right.

Crysis is one of the best FPS ever, most people that hate it are console people who never played it

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With games like Uncharted and Gears, I think the console are plenty powerful.