How does it feel knowing this.........is stronger than all your consoles?

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#51 Painballz
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With games like Uncharted and Gears, I think the console are plenty powerful.Wasdie

Gears ran at 30fps (lawlz)

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#52 gearsofhalogeek
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i go with the video card, controller statement earlier. its useless by itself.
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#53 skrat_01
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With games like Uncharted and Gears, I think the console are plenty powerful.Wasdie
Depends.

They actually arent that powerful at all, rather its the developers who have to be more resourceful.
By technical standards an xbox 360 is comparable to a low end gaming computer. Hell probably lower.

Not saying developers cant pull off some impressive feats, even Army of Two looks great.

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#54 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]With games like Uncharted and Gears, I think the console are plenty powerful.skrat_01

Depends.

They actually arent that powerful at all, rather its the developers who have to be more resourceful.
By technical standards an xbox 360 is comparable to a low end gaming computer. Hell probably lower.

I completely agree

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#55 linkin_guy109
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how does it feel that everyone knows this and no one cares?
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#56 Head_of_games
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How do i feel? I don't care in the least because i own a Wii and consider great graphics to be a nice addition to a game. Have fun playing WOW for the next twelve hours.

Painballz

Wii!!?! Anyone who thinks WIi has great graphics is most likely blind, all I see in the Wii is a redesigned GC with wrist flicking controls

I never said Wii had the best graphics. It has the worst, and frankly that doesn't matter to me. I play games because they're fun, not because they have the best graphics. True, PC does have quite a few amazing games, and i'm fine with that too. It all depends on your preferences, I'm a hardcore Nintendo fan for instance, and the only place i'm going to find Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin, F-Zero, Pokemon, ect is on Wii and DS, so naturally they are the systems i own. I also think that the innovative controls have great potential to be unlocked, even if many developers don't use it currently, it believe they will eventually take a hint. Also, i like being able to play online without everyone cussing at me. Finaly, i like having games that anyone can jump into and play with me. Now, if i really liked the games they offered, enjoyed online communication, and considered great graphics to be a major bonus in a game, i would own a PC, 360, or PS3. Which of those three i would get (If not more than one) would again depend on my preferences, like how much i like playing with all of my Friends at once when they come to my house, of course the games i like, ect.

But if you ask me you should have a console because if you have three Friends over it's going to get tedious taking turns playing on your PC.

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#57 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]With games like Uncharted and Gears, I think the console are plenty powerful.skrat_01

Depends.

They actually arent that powerful at all, rather its the developers who have to be more resourceful.
By technical standards an xbox 360 is comparable to a low end gaming computer. Hell probably lower.

Not saying developers cant pull off some impressive feats, even Army of Two looks great.

Yeah but again, with graphics like Uncharted and Gears, who cares about how powerful the console is? The games are that pretty and they are holding up quite well agianst PC games even on a high end system.

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#58 Painballz
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]With games like Uncharted and Gears, I think the console are plenty powerful.Wasdie

Depends.

They actually arent that powerful at all, rather its the developers who have to be more resourceful.
By technical standards an xbox 360 is comparable to a low end gaming computer. Hell probably lower.

Not saying developers cant pull off some impressive feats, even Army of Two looks great.

Yeah but again, with graphics like Uncharted and Gears, who cares about how powerful the console is? The games are that pretty and they are holding up quite well agianst PC games even on a high end system.

Wasdie, you serious?

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I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.
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#60 MrKittle
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While the entry cost for a gaming PC is much higher than a console, it will eventually cost less. But its alot less hassle to buy a new console every five to six years that plays good looking games at a much cheaper entry price.
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[QUOTE="Amit_Raj"]how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast Painballz

Really? Thats why people with 8800 from 06 still runs games high-maxed in REAL HD right?

Out dated in the computer world is: When something new comes out, not how long people use it. It can be 1% better, which makes it out dated So Basically, it could be out dated next week.

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#62 Wasdie  Moderator
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Wasdie, you serious?

Painballz

Yeah. I don't know about you but Gears of war on a 42" 720p TV looks pretty damn good, Uncharted even looks better. Games like GT5P also look stunning on a HDTV. The only game that really looks better on a PC is Crysis, and that requires a ton of money (at least 1000+) to run it smoothly on high settings.

If you ask me, i think the consoles are holding up quite well. Sure PCs may be exponentially more powerful by factors of 100s, but when you look at a game like Uncharted or Gears on a HDTV in real life, the graphics look damn fine.

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#63 Painballz
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I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.Cedmln

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

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#64 Painballz
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Wasdie, you serious?

Wasdie

Yeah. I don't know about you but Gears of war on a 42" 720p TV looks pretty damn good, Uncharted even looks better. Games like GT5P also look stunning on a HDTV. The only game that really looks better on a PC is Crysis, and that requires a ton of money (at least 1000+) to run it smoothly on high settings.

If you ask me, i think the consoles are holding up quite well. Sure PCs may be exponentially more powerful by factors of 100s, but when you look at a game like Uncharted or Gears on a HDTV in real life, the graphics look damn fine.

PC Gears has better graphics than 360 version

Remove your fake rig specs in sig

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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.Painballz

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

Sure, but have you seen it on a HDTV? It looks nearly as good as a $1000 PC. I will take that for $400.

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#66 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.Wasdie

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

Sure, but have you seen it on a HDTV? It looks nearly as good as a $1000 PC. I will take that for $400.

Since when has 600p been HD?

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.Painballz

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

Sure, but have you seen it on a HDTV? It looks nearly as good as a $1000 PC. I will take that for $400.

Since when has 600p been HD?


Since when have only a graphic card been ably to run a game?
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#68 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]With games like Uncharted and Gears, I think the console are plenty powerful.Wasdie

Depends.

They actually arent that powerful at all, rather its the developers who have to be more resourceful.
By technical standards an xbox 360 is comparable to a low end gaming computer. Hell probably lower.

Not saying developers cant pull off some impressive feats, even Army of Two looks great.

Yeah but again, with graphics like Uncharted and Gears, who cares about how powerful the console is? The games are that pretty and they are holding up quite well agianst PC games even on a high end system.

Well to be honest they no longer hold up well to high end systems, thanks to games like Crysis and World in Conflict - by technical standards, but visually, as I said, yup games can still look a treat, just in a different way to PC games.
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why don't you mention the other parts' costs, or is that video card alone supposed to play my games?
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#70 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.Painballz

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

Sure, but have you seen it on a HDTV? It looks nearly as good as a $1000 PC. I will take that for $400.

Since when has 600p been HD?

Again. I am just throwing technical specs aside. I am not saying that the 360 is more powerful blah blah blah. Im saying when I compared CoD 4 on a HDTV to CoD 4 on my PC, I say CoD 4 looked damn good. Who cares about how powerful the console is compared to the PC. All that matters is the final output on the screen.

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#71 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.Wasdie

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

Sure, but have you seen it on a HDTV? It looks nearly as good as a $1000 PC. I will take that for $400.

Since when has 600p been HD?

Again. I am just throwing technical specs aside. I am not saying that the 360 is more powerful blah blah blah. Im saying when I compared CoD 4 on a HDTV to CoD 4 on my PC, I say CoD 4 looked damn good. Who cares about how powerful the console is compared to the PC. All that matters is the final output on the screen.

Yea, and 360's output is 600p SCALED.

I doubt you turned on AA/AF if you even had a PC that could play COD 4

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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

doobie1975

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

but what if your stuck with AGP.....

Then you are doing it wrong.

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#73 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.Wasdie

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

Sure, but have you seen it on a HDTV? It looks nearly as good as a $1000 PC. I will take that for $400.

Well I did play through half of COD4 on 360, on my 32" HD TV, and seriously.... It doesent look anywhere near as good as it does on my PC.

Hell even I was really shocked when I bought the PC version, with how much sharper, and how much more detail there was.

It doesent look bad on consoles, far from it.... But it looks a world better on pc.

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#74 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I'm sorry but that card does not run Crysis on max everything. Post failed.skrat_01

COD 4 on 360 doesn't run at maxed. Post failed

Sure, but have you seen it on a HDTV? It looks nearly as good as a $1000 PC. I will take that for $400.

Well I did play through half of COD4 on 360, on my 32" HD TV, and seriously.... It doesent look anywhere near as good as it does on my PC.

Hell even I was really shocked when I bought the PC version, with how much sharper, and how much more detail there was.

Yea, COD 4 looks amazing on PC.

Wasdie, do you know what AA/AF and the native res on your monitor is?

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Well to be honest they no longer hold up well to high end systems, thanks to games like Crysis and World in Conflict - by technical standards, but visually, as I said, yup games can still look a treat, just in a different way to PC games.skrat_01

Well from my experiances with all of those games you have mentioned, yes the PC is more powerful and more technically advanced. Sure those games look stunning. But in all honesty they don't look that much better than the leading console games.

I used to compare games on more techincal levels, but now I just look at the final product.

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Well I did play through half of COD4 on 360, on my 32" HD TV, and seriously.... It doesent look anywhere near as good as it does on my PC.

Hell even I was really shocked when I bought the PC version, with how much sharper, and how much more detail there was.

It doesent look bad on consoles, far from it.... But it looks a world better on pc.

skrat_01

It does look better on a PC, but all things considered it looks damn good on a console and runs very well. Unless you own a high end gaming PC, you really aren't missing out on much if you are playing the multiplats.

I play on my medium high end system, and games like CoD 4 look amazing. I love my PC, but I just don't think consoles are given enough credit. They are already pulling off some amazing graphics with rather outdated hardware.

Sure Crysis look amazing but it kills my rig. Uncharted looks almost as damn good and it runs on how oudated hardware?

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Well to be honest they no longer hold up well to high end systems, thanks to games like Crysis and World in Conflict - by technical standards, but visually, as I said, yup games can still look a treat, just in a different way to PC games.Wasdie

Well from my experiances with all of those games you have mentioned, yes the PC is more powerful and more technically advanced. Sure those games look stunning. But in all honesty they don't look that much better than the leading console games.

I used to compare games on more techincal levels, but now I just look at the final product.

You serious?

World in Conflict and Crysis don't look much better?

Crysis

World in Conflict

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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Well I did play through half of COD4 on 360, on my 32" HD TV, and seriously.... It doesent look anywhere near as good as it does on my PC.

Hell even I was really shocked when I bought the PC version, with how much sharper, and how much more detail there was.

It doesent look bad on consoles, far from it.... But it looks a world better on pc.

Wasdie

It does look better on a PC, but all things considered it looks damn good on a console and runs very well. Unless you own a high end gaming PC, you really aren't missing out on much if you are playing the multiplats.

I play on my medium high end system, and games like CoD 4 look amazing. I love my PC, but I just don't think consoles are given enough credit. They are already pulling off some amazing graphics with rather outdated hardware.

Sure Crysis look amazing but it kills my rig. Uncharted looks almost as damn good and it runs on how oudated hardware?

Uncharted looks like this?

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#79 MrKittle
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Whatever TC! You cant play Smash Bros!!!
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Well to be honest they no longer hold up well to high end systems, thanks to games like Crysis and World in Conflict - by technical standards, but visually, as I said, yup games can still look a treat, just in a different way to PC games.Wasdie

Well from my experiances with all of those games you have mentioned, yes the PC is more powerful and more technically advanced. Sure those games look stunning. But in all honesty they don't look that much better than the leading console games.

I used to compare games on more techincal levels, but now I just look at the final product.

I look at the final product too....

I mean I play Crysis and it looks a universe better than what is offered on consoles - visually..... Its just that good.... And World in Conflict let alone other games looks worlds better than what are on consoles..... visually.....

But that doesent stop console games from looking stunning, as I said even console exclusive titles like Army of Two really made am impression on me a couple of times, at how great it looked. But that still doesent stop a game like Crysis from looking worlds better than it.

Its just two very different types of visual standards really. Consoles and PCs really cant be categorised together in such visual comparisons in many instances.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Well I did play through half of COD4 on 360, on my 32" HD TV, and seriously.... It doesent look anywhere near as good as it does on my PC.

Hell even I was really shocked when I bought the PC version, with how much sharper, and how much more detail there was.

It doesent look bad on consoles, far from it.... But it looks a world better on pc.

Painballz

It does look better on a PC, but all things considered it looks damn good on a console and runs very well. Unless you own a high end gaming PC, you really aren't missing out on much if you are playing the multiplats.

I play on my medium high end system, and games like CoD 4 look amazing. I love my PC, but I just don't think consoles are given enough credit. They are already pulling off some amazing graphics with rather outdated hardware.

Sure Crysis look amazing but it kills my rig. Uncharted looks almost as damn good and it runs on how oudated hardware?

Uncharted looks like this?


It doesn't matter if crysis looks better than Uncharted whan stalker ownes them both in story and gameplay.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

Painballz

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

You still need a good CPU and alot of Ram to run the games at max in what some of you are calling real HD.

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#83 skrat_01
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Well I did play through half of COD4 on 360, on my 32" HD TV, and seriously.... It doesent look anywhere near as good as it does on my PC.

Hell even I was really shocked when I bought the PC version, with how much sharper, and how much more detail there was.

It doesent look bad on consoles, far from it.... But it looks a world better on pc.

Wasdie

It does look better on a PC, but all things considered it looks damn good on a console and runs very well. Unless you own a high end gaming PC, you really aren't missing out on much if you are playing the multiplats.

I play on my medium high end system, and games like CoD 4 look amazing. I love my PC, but I just don't think consoles are given enough credit. They are already pulling off some amazing graphics with rather outdated hardware.

Sure Crysis look amazing but it kills my rig. Uncharted looks almost as damn good and it runs on how oudated hardware?

Indeed consoles are pulling off some amazing visuals with outdated hardware, I coudlent agree more, problem is you get a PC with hardaware similar and the same games, it runs them exactly the same. You dont even need a medium end gaming PC to get similar visuals.

Though I cant say Uncharted looks as good as Crysis. Ive played Uncharted on a 36" HDTV (cousins), and even Crysis on my 32" HDTV does look much better, even though Uncharted looks wonderful. Big difference is Uncharted pulls off alot of visual tricks to manage hardware limitations, wheras a game like Crysis goes full boar without having hardware restrictions.

This is what I mean by a different visual standard, and how console games still look fantastic in their own right.

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Uncharted looks like this?

Painballz

How many PC gamers can play at those settings? Not me, and I blew $1500 on my computer. But for $400 you can get Uncharted. I know Crysis looks worlds better, but you make it out to be that consoles can't produce good graphcis at all.

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[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

sirk1264

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

You still need a good CPU and alot of Ram to run the games at max in what some of you are calling real HD.

Well not entirely.... HD visuals are delivered primarily by the GPU and video memory - it produces the visual you see- thus 'HD visuals'. THough yes you do need every other hardware component to run the game.
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How does it feel kowing...

I don't give a flying ****

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It doesn't matter if crysis looks better than Uncharted whan stalker ownes them both in story and gameplay.JLF1
Opinion and opinion.

While Crysis story is very standard its really well presented, correction beautifully presented, and gameplay wise it seems Crysis does have better gameplay.....

IF you rather Uncharted though, well thats your own personal opinion.

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#88 sirk1264
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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

skrat_01

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

You still need a good CPU and alot of Ram to run the games at max in what some of you are calling real HD.

Well not entirely.... HD visuals are delivered primarily by the GPU and video memory - it produces the visual you see- thus 'HD visuals'. THough yes you do need every other hardware component to run the game.

Well my statement was half right then lol.

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#89 Painballz
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

Uncharted looks like this?

Wasdie

How many PC gamers can play at those settings? Not me, and I blew $1500 on my computer. But for $400 you can get Uncharted. I know Crysis looks worlds better, but you make it out to be that consoles can't produce good graphcis at all.

How did your PC cost $1500 2gb ram, e6600, and gts. Thats what you get for buying pre built or getting ripped off

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#90 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

sirk1264

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

You still need a good CPU and alot of Ram to run the games at max in what some of you are calling real HD.

Well not entirely.... HD visuals are delivered primarily by the GPU and video memory - it produces the visual you see- thus 'HD visuals'. THough yes you do need every other hardware component to run the game.

Well my statement was half right then lol.

lol yup indeed it was.
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#91 JLF1
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It doesn't matter if crysis looks better than Uncharted whan stalker ownes them both in story and gameplay.skrat_01

Opinion and opinion.

While Crysis story is very standard its really well presented, correction beautifully presented, and gameplay wise it seems Crysis does have better gameplay.....

IF you rather Uncharted though, well thats your own personal opinion.


I never said that I think Uncharted is better then Crysis. I said S.T.A.L.K.E.R is better then Crysis and of course it's my opinion.
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#92 heretrix
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Oh wow. another PC is better than consoles thread.

Thanks. we don't get enough of these here....And the last time I checked, a videocard by itself does NOTHING.

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#93 clone01
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[QUOTE="Amit_Raj"]how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast Painballz

Really? Thats why people with 8800 from 06 still runs games high-maxed in REAL HD right?

wow! i didn't know you could play PC games with just a graphics card.

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#94 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]
It doesn't matter if crysis looks better than Uncharted whan stalker ownes them both in story and gameplay.JLF1

Opinion and opinion.

While Crysis story is very standard its really well presented, correction beautifully presented, and gameplay wise it seems Crysis does have better gameplay.....

IF you rather Uncharted though, well thats your own personal opinion.


I never said that I think Uncharted is better then Crysis. I said S.T.A.L.K.E.R is better then Crysis and of course it's my opinion.

You are right, sorry about that, i misread your post.

Though ya your opinion is your own, though yes Stalker is a fantastic game no doubt.

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how do u feel knowing its gonna be outdated in 6 months ..whereas consoles arent for 3-4 yrs atleast Amit_Raj

They last on the cutting edge longer than that, real product cycles can be over a year. Even so does your video card suddenly stop running games at 120fps at 1080p when its successor comes out?

But its not really about that anyway, there are plenty of games console-only gamers will never be able to try and PC players will have the same problem not owning certain consoles.

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#96 l-_-l
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I'll play the devils advocate here.... "It doesn't feel too bad as only having a video card doesn't do much good. It's like owning a console controller without the console."Ibacai
Agreed. I :lol: at TC's post also, and I am a Hermit.
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#97 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

Painballz

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

Not everybody has a PCIE 16x slot.

/thread

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#98 l-_-l
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How come PS3 can run Assasin's Creed with that Geforce and I cant with the same one (Well I can't max it nor medium only low)... And the Ps3 has what 512 ram, and on Pc I need like 6X that... I really don't get it.haris12121212
Oh god, not this again. The reason is because the dev sucked at porting it. It is very poorly optimized. I mean just look at Crysis if you want proof.
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lol PC gaming is a joke
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#100 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Did we really need this thread?

Whats a video card on its own?................

skrat_01

Well every PC has a mobo, you just insert into PCIe 16x slot

but what if your stuck with AGP.....

Or you have an old CPU that bottlenecks the video cards performance, and you are stuck on a socket that isnt supported anymore.

And what if you only have 256MB of old crappy ram in it? Or what if it won't fit in your old tower because it is so huge?