How exactly can you tell when a console is dying?

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#1 outworld222
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Just curious. Is there an exact science behind guestimating? For instance, a console gets negative feelings amongst publishers and fewer and fewer games get released for it.

Or....there isn't a strong market for games. I don't know, these are just examples, but someone with any thought or input may share as to what happens when things like that happen. And why.

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#2 Jankarcop
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look at xbox's games list and u will know

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#3 outworld222
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look at xbox's games list and u will know

Jankarcop
X-Box was followed by the 360. I'm talking about some event that would make it hard for a company (Say Sony) to continue with the Playstation.
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#4 ShadowDeathX
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

look at xbox's games list and u will know

outworld222
X-Box was followed by the 360. I'm talking about some event that would make it hard for a company (Say Sony) to continue with the Playstation.

Xbox 360 is DEAD
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#5 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

look at xbox's games list and u will know

outworld222

X-Box was followed by the 360. I'm talking about some event that would make it hard for a company (Say Sony) to continue with the Playstation.

okay then look at xbox360's recent "games".

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#6 locopatho
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When it stops getting regular good games. Wii is dead, 360 and PS3 are still going.
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#7 parkurtommo
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When it's called the 360, you automatically know it's a fail.

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#8 bbkkristian
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Lack of first party support. Wii's last first party game is Kirby Anniversary Collection, I'm pretty sure.
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#9 GreySeal9
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  1. Massive decline in game releases, especially first party.
  2. Massive decline in sales.
  3. Being the PlayStation Vita.
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#10 gensigns
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When it looks like this...

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#11 KC_Hokie
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When it looks like this...

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gensigns
lol!
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#12 santoron
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When SW can't even be bothered to declare it's DOOOOOMED anymore.
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#13 Tessellation
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when is last place.
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#14 razgriz_101
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i dunno when it stops reading disks, gets YLOD or RROD *shrugs* that usually shows its dying.

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#15 locopatho
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When SW can't even be bothered to declare it's DOOOOOMED anymore. santoron
Yeah, if system wars is calling it doomed its usually succesful!
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INB4 butt hurt lems

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#18 parkurtommo
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i dunno when it stops reading disks, gets YLOD or RROD *shrugs* that usually shows its dying.

razgriz_101
I c wut u did ther
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#19 GreySeal9
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INB4 butt hurt lems

inb4uall

Lems are not the ones who have to damage control the doomed Vita.

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When it's *********** so hard.slowpokebro
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#21 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

INB4 butt hurt lems

GreySeal9

Lems are not the ones who have to damage control the doomed Vita.

vita is already dead whats to damage control?

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#22 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

INB4 butt hurt lems

inb4uall

Lems are not the ones who have to damage control the doomed Vita.

vita is already dead whats to damage control?

Believe me, there's plenty.
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#23 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Lems are not the ones who have to damage control the doomed Vita.

parkurtommo

vita is already dead whats to damage control?

Believe me, there's plenty.

if it isn't dead it will at least be the last handhled sony ever makes, and what little life left in it will be obliterated by the invetiable pokemon 3DS and SSB 3DS.

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#24 Cheleman
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when the list of upcoming games looks like the one on the 360:lol:

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#25 GreenGoblin2099
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When the only game left you have is Halol

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#26 mems_1224
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When it looks like this...

vita.jpg%3Fw%3D620

gensigns
:lol: win
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#27 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="gensigns"]

When it looks like this...

vita.jpg%3Fw%3D620

mems_1224

:lol: win

wrong vita is already dead.

this is a picture of a dying system

new-xbox-20100614.jpg

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#28 Miketheman83
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When the company that makes it is practically bankrupt.
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#29 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="gensigns"]

When it looks like this...

vita.jpg%3Fw%3D620

inb4uall

:lol: win

wrong vita is already dead.

this is a picture of a dying system

new-xbox-20100614.jpg

a dying system is having their biggest game ever releasing this year? makes sense :roll:
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#30 psymon100
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They only truly die when their successor comes out, or when their controller looks like this:

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#31 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] :lol: winmems_1224

wrong vita is already dead.

this is a picture of a dying system

new-xbox-20100614.jpg

a dying system is having their biggest game ever releasing this year? makes sense :roll:

lol halo4 isn't their biggest game ever. Thats kinect adventures which sold 18 million :lol::lol::lol: the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively. Halo 4 won't sell more then halo 3 you are a fool.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

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#32 locopatho
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="gensigns"]

When it looks like this...

vita.jpg%3Fw%3D620

inb4uall

:lol: win

wrong vita is already dead.

this is a picture of a dying system

new-xbox-20100614.jpg

It's still getting constant good games.
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#33 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="inb4uall"] wrong vita is already dead.

this is a picture of a dying system

new-xbox-20100614.jpg

inb4uall

a dying system is having their biggest game ever releasing this year? makes sense :roll:

lol halo4 isn't their biggest game ever. Thats kinect adventures which sold 18 million :lol::lol::lol: the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively. Halo 4 won't sell more then halo 3 you are a fool.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

halo is easily the most important MS franchise, halo 4 is a real sequel. it will sell more than halo 3
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#34 GamerwillzPS
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It's easy to see a dying console right now; it's the Xbox 360.

  • No games
  • Xbox Live fees
  • Crap controller
  • Crap user interface
  • Hardware build is of low quality
  • DVD and stupid multiple discs
  • Non upgradeable hard drive
  • Kinect

The lack of 1st party games is really sinking the console heavily.

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#36 platniumgamer
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It's easy to see a dying console right now; it's the Xbox 360.

  • No games
  • Xbox Live fees
  • Crap controller
  • Crap user interface
  • Hardware build is of low quality
  • DVD and stupid multiple discs
  • Non upgradeable hard drive
  • Kinect

The lack of 1st party games is really sinking the console heavily.

GamerwillzPS

the xbox 360 will never die.

halo 4 will save it.

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#37 GreySeal9
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I also think the 360's lack of exclusives is a little embarrasing, but anybody who thinks the 360 is dying is smoking crack. Lots of crack.

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#38 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] a dying system is having their biggest game ever releasing this year? makes sense :roll:mems_1224

lol halo4 isn't their biggest game ever. Thats kinect adventures which sold 18 million :lol::lol::lol: the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively. Halo 4 won't sell more then halo 3 you are a fool.

link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

halo is easily the most important MS franchise, halo 4 is a real sequel. it will sell more than halo 3

but not 18 million! :lol:

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="inb4uall"] lol halo4 isn't their biggest game ever. Thats kinect adventures which sold 18 million :lol::lol::lol: the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively. Halo 4 won't sell more then halo 3 you are a fool.

link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

inb4uall

halo is easily the most important MS franchise, halo 4 is a real sequel. it will sell more than halo 3

but not 18 million! :lol:

still will sell more than any ps3 franchise
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#40 platniumgamer
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no console is dying.

but bacon is dying a slow and painful death.

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#41 Dj-Dampleaf
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I also think the 360's lack of exclusives is a little embarrasing, but anybody who thinks the 360 is dying is smoking crack. Lots of crack.

GreySeal9
I actually can see why MS is focusing FP on Kinect and H/G/F/FAB since it has the largest amount of exlucisve in number, by a lot, and so has a large backlog of games that people could still be playng. The Ps3 output is still trying to make up for 3 to 4 years of nothing and the Wii is the Wii.
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#42 Goyoshi12
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i dunno when it stops reading disks, gets YLOD or RROD *shrugs* that usually shows its dying.

razgriz_101

Second.

Also Red Ring of Death and whatever the hell the PS3 and Wii have. Unless the consoles have evolved and no longer have those problems or they do but they aren't leathal to its life.

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#43 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] halo is easily the most important MS franchise, halo 4 is a real sequel. it will sell more than halo 3mems_1224

but not 18 million! :lol:

still will sell more than any ps3 franchise

beacause lemming have nothing else :lol:

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#44 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] halo is easily the most important MS franchise, halo 4 is a real sequel. it will sell more than halo 3mems_1224

but not 18 million! :lol:

still will sell more than any ps3 franchise

D'oh, there it goes, the last f*ck I gave :cool:
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#45 Heil68
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[QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

look at xbox's games list and u will know

Jankarcop

X-Box was followed by the 360. I'm talking about some event that would make it hard for a company (Say Sony) to continue with the Playstation.

okay then look at xbox360's recent "games".

Yep, started back in 2009
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  • Xbox Live fees

GamerwillzPS

So basically it's been dying for a pretty long time then? Riiiiiiiiiiight.

  • Crap controller

GamerwillzPS

How does that make it dying? It's not like it's the Jaguar controller.

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#47 spiderluck
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You know a console is dying when it's fanboys claim that the console that has sold more than it is dying

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#48 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="inb4uall"] wrong vita is already dead.

this is a picture of a dying system

new-xbox-20100614.jpg

inb4uall

a dying system is having their biggest game ever releasing this year? makes sense :roll:

lol halo4 isn't their biggest game ever. Thats kinect adventures which sold 18 million :lol::lol::lol: the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively. Halo 4 won't sell more then halo 3 you are a fool.

link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

Kinect adventures is bundled with every kinect you idiot :lol:

3 and 3.3 million? You're talking out your ass, they sold a lot more than that. Halo 4, being a numbered sequel, has a better chance at outselling Halo 3 than Reach did, which still came close.

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#49 lundy86_4
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They're consoles. Dying is what they do.

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#50 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] a dying system is having their biggest game ever releasing this year? makes sense :roll:RR360DD

lol halo4 isn't their biggest game ever. Thats kinect adventures which sold 18 million :lol::lol::lol: the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively. Halo 4 won't sell more then halo 3 you are a fool.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

Kinect adventures is bundled with every kinect you idiot :lol:

3 and 3.3 million? You're talking out your ass, they sold a lot more than that. Halo 4, being a numbered sequel, has a better chance at outselling Halo 3 than Reach did, which still came close.

I liked to wikipedia so no I'm not talking out my ass. Also who cares kinect is M$'s best selling box game. just because it comes with kinect means nothing.