How exactly can you tell when a console is dying?

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]mems_1224

They're consoles. Dying is what they do.

lundy86_4

But a PC dies(outdated) every other year. Consoles live a long and prosperous life.

I liked to wikipedia so no I'm not talking out my ass. Also who cares kinect is M$'s best selling box game. just because it comes with kinect means nothing.

inb4uall

Halo 3 sold 8.1 million as of January 2008 :?

Link.

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

I liked to wikipedia so no I'm not talking out my ass. Also who cares kinect is M$'s best selling box game. just because it comes with kinect means nothing.

lundy86_4

Halo 3 sold 8.1 million as of January 2008 :?

Link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

The only answer is when you see a layer of dust on it.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They're consoles. Dying is what they do.

15strong

But a PC dies(outdated) every other year. Consoles live a long and prosperous life.

Nuh, uh. Mere consolites have spoken of the death of PC gaming for 20 years, and yet it lives a long life.

Consoles are in a perpetual state of decay :o

and kinect adventures sold 18 mil which is more then 8.1 if i'm not mistaken. I'm not seeing the problem here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

inb4uall

You said Halo 3 sold 3 million.

the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively.inb4uall

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

and kinect adventures sold 18 mil which is more then 8.1 if i'm not mistaken. I'm not seeing the problem here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

lundy86_4

You said Halo 3 sold 3 million.

the second highest selling 360 exclusive was halo 3 and odst and reach only sold 3 mil and 3.3 mil respectively.inb4uall

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

I liked to wikipedia so no I'm not talking out my ass. Also who cares kinect is M$'s best selling box game. just because it comes with kinect means nothing.

inb4uall

Halo 3 sold 8.1 million as of January 2008 :?

Link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

Halo 3 is around 12 mil and Reach over 10.

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Halo 3 sold 8.1 million as of January 2008 :?

Link.

RR360DD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

Halo 3 is around 12 mil and Reach over 10.

no it was poor grammer on my part. I actually didn't say how many halo 3 sold only how many kinect advemtures halo ODST and halo reach sold. All I said was that Halo came in second as a exclusive. there shouldn't have been an and after halo 3

inb4uall

I see. Still, Reach attained 4.7 million sales as of Nov 2011, in the US alone. Link.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"] and kinect adventures sold 18 mil which is more then 8.1 if i'm not mistaken. I'm not seeing the problem here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

inb4uall

Halo 3 is around 12 mil and Reach over 10.

You actually believe its 3 million!?

It topped 3 million in its LAUNCH MONTH only in the US

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2010/10/14/halo-reach-tops-3-million-in-sales

You can tell when it's dying when it gets a red ring or yellow light.

Non upgradeable hard driveGamerwillzPS

Instead, why not say something true like '360 users have to buy a proprietary hard disc to increase storage capacity, PS3 users can buy a standard SATA hard disc and avoid the price premium'.

I have no problem with people saying negative things about any system as long as what they are saying is either true - or, it is their opinion and they understand that their opinion carries about the same weight as the opinion of any other user.

[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Halo 3 is around 12 mil and Reach over 10.

RR360DD

You actually believe its 3 million!?

It topped 3 million in its LAUNCH MONTH only in the US

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2010/10/14/halo-reach-tops-3-million-in-sales

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="inb4uall"] and where are you pulling those numbers from because wikipedia disagrees with you.

inb4uall

You actually believe its 3 million!?

It topped 3 million in its LAUNCH MONTH only in the US

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2010/10/14/halo-reach-tops-3-million-in-sales

Selling only 2 million less is actually quite close. Considering ODST was originally an expansion pack, and that neither was a numbered sequel, I don't think anyone expected them to outsell 3. Certainly not ODST anyway.

And like I said before, Adventures is bundled with every kinect. If you want to play by that stupid logic, then actually hexic would be the best selling 360 game to date as its preinstalled on every HDD.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They're consoles. Dying is what they do.

lundy86_4

But a PC dies(outdated) every other year. Consoles live a long and prosperous life.

Nuh, uh. Mere consolites have spoken of the death of PC gaming for 20 years, and yet it lives a long life.

Consoles are in a perpetual state of decay :o

Consoles rose from the dead in the 80's, they are in some way, the jesus, of videogames.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

But a PC dies(outdated) every other year. Consoles live a long and prosperous life.

15strong

Nuh, uh. Mere consolites have spoken of the death of PC gaming for 20 years, and yet it lives a long life.

Consoles are in a perpetual state of decay :o

Consoles rose from the dead in the 80's, they are in some way, the jesus, of videogames.

Oh snap! Touché, my friend.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

But a PC dies(outdated) every other year. Consoles live a long and prosperous life.

15strong

Nuh, uh. Mere consolites have spoken of the death of PC gaming for 20 years, and yet it lives a long life.

Consoles are in a perpetual state of decay :o

Consoles rose from the dead in the 80's, they are in some way, the jesus, of videogames.

Didn't you know? Everybody on the internet is registered psychic. If you hear it here, you can pretty much take it to the bank ;)

Didn't you know? Everybody on the internet is registered psychic. If you hear it here, you can pretty much take it to the bank ;)

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

But a PC dies(outdated) every other year. Consoles live a long and prosperous life.

15strong

Nuh, uh. Mere consolites have spoken of the death of PC gaming for 20 years, and yet it lives a long life.

Consoles are in a perpetual state of decay :o

Consoles rose from the dead in the 80's, they are in some way, the jesus, of videogames.

Consoles didn't die during the 80's game crash. They were there the whole time. It's just that fewer people were buying. You want to see dead, look at the Amiga.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

But a PC dies(outdated) every other year. Consoles live a long and prosperous life.

15strong

Nuh, uh. Mere consolites have spoken of the death of PC gaming for 20 years, and yet it lives a long life.

Consoles are in a perpetual state of decay :o

Consoles rose from the dead in the 80's, they are in some way, the jesus, of videogames.

That only happened in North America. Consoles were alive and well in Japan during the crash.

When it's bleeding from its anus from being fcked so hard.slowpokebro

wut

When nintendo starts making consoles worse than the originals.

:lol: @ Cows & Lemmings go at it

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Nuh, uh. Mere consolites have spoken of the death of PC gaming for 20 years, and yet it lives a long life.

Consoles are in a perpetual state of decay :o

cheetahman91

Consoles rose from the dead in the 80's, they are in some way, the jesus, of videogames.

That only happened in North America. Consoles were alive and well in Japan during the crash.

Can people take a joke?

[QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

look at xbox's games list and u will know

Jankarcop

Do you mean Trials Evolution, Sine Mora, Hybrid, deadlight, Dust, Akai Katana and soon Halo 4, Forza Horizon, Happy Wars, etc; 360/PC games like Spelunky, The Witcher 2, Minecraft, Fez...; or even multiplats such as Mass Effect 3, Max Payne 3, Darksiders 2, Sleeping Dogs, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Transformers, etc?

When it's called the 360, you automatically know it's a fail.

parkurtommo

According to system wars, 360 is about to die since 2007. In reality we are in 2012 and its the console that gets the most games, and probably sales.

when its life force starts to fade

I'd say a quick indicator is shelf space at Walmart.

At EB/Gamestop, it seems to be the closer the games get to the back of the store, that is away from the entrance.

Another indicator might be how many items for that console are being listed at sites like Kijiji.

By comparing its sales to the Wii.

If it's worse - it's dead.

If it's a bit better - it's dying.

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

When it's called the 360, you automatically know it's a fail.

PAL360

According to system wars, 360 is about to die since 2007. In reality we are in 2012 and its the console that gets the most games, and probably sales.

It goes like this.

in 2005, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2006"
in 2006, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2007"
in 2007, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2008"
in 2008, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2009"
in 2009, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2010"
in 2010, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2011"
in 2011, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2012"

Can't wait to hear about that prediction for 360's "death" in 2013 In, 5... 4... 3... 2... ;)

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

When it's called the 360, you automatically know it's a fail.

AdobeArtist

According to system wars, 360 is about to die since 2007. In reality we are in 2012 and its the console that gets the most games, and probably sales.

It goes like this.

in 2005, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2006"
in 2006, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2007"
in 2007, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2008"
in 2008, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2009"
in 2009, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2010"
in 2010, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2011"
in 2011, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2012"

Can't wait to hear about that prediction for 360's "death" in 2013 In, 5... 4... 3... 2... ;)

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

When it's called the 360, you automatically know it's a fail.

AdobeArtist

According to system wars, 360 is about to die since 2007. In reality we are in 2012 and its the console that gets the most games, and probably sales.

It goes like this.

in 2005, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2006"
in 2006, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2007"
in 2007, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2008"
in 2008, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2009"
in 2009, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2010"
in 2010, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2011"
in 2011, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2012"

Can't wait to hear about that prediction for 360's "death" in 2013 In, 5... 4... 3... 2... ;)

2013 would probably be the only right answer...or will it be 2014??

At least im hoping next gen consoles to come next year :)

The foolproof answer is...

When your Zelda game gets scored 7.5 or your console lingers in last place all gen. :twisted:

Anyhoo, this gens about over so ya know, they're all ether dead or dying soon. :P

"Dying" is about sales.

See the PC ecosystem.

When it's called the 360, you automatically know it's a fail.

parkurtommo

Really? The 360 is a far bigger success story than the PS3.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

According to system wars, 360 is about to die since 2007. In reality we are in 2012 and its the console that gets the most games, and probably sales.

PAL360

It goes like this.

in 2005, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2006"
in 2006, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2007"
in 2007, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2008"
in 2008, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2009"
in 2009, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2010"
in 2010, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2011"
in 2011, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2012"

Can't wait to hear about that prediction for 360's "death" in 2013 In, 5... 4... 3... 2... ;)

2013 would probably be the only right answer...or will it be 2014??

At least im hoping next gen consoles to come next year :)

Come to think of it, maybe 2012 will be the death of not only Xbox 360 but... everything else as well. :o Could it be? Could it be that X360 is the cause of the end of the world that the Mayans prophesised for 2012??? :shock::shock:

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

When it's called the 360, you automatically know it's a fail.

AdobeArtist

According to system wars, 360 is about to die since 2007. In reality we are in 2012 and its the console that gets the most games, and probably sales.

It goes like this.

in 2005, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2006"
in 2006, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2007"
in 2007, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2008"
in 2008, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2009"
in 2009, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2010"
in 2010, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2011"
in 2011, "Xbox 360 will be dead in 2012"

Can't wait to hear about that prediction for 360's "death" in 2013 In, 5... 4... 3... 2... ;)

That's just taking it to the extreme, when we all know that in 2009 MS dropped core to go 99% casual and that gave them a burst of sales and a piece of the Wii's market that they set out after. Heil68

Nothing extreme about my example at all. It's a completely accurate outline of how system wars has been this entire generation. Literally, not one year has gone by we didn't have some death rant from at least a handful of people. That's 7 years of "predictions" all unrealized.

And if Xbox "completely dropped the core" (since 2009) as you keep persisting, then how was I able to play Mass Effect 3, Batman Arkham City, Deus Ex HR, Skyrim, Forza 3, Gears 3, Halo Reach, Assassin's Creed Revelations,Mortal Kombat, Portal 2, and the Witcher 2 (among others)?

Oh but you'll dismiss the multiplats, because apparently third party support doesn't count when it's on the system you don't like, but totally legit on your machine, right... right? ;)

And I'm not denying the prevailent precense of Kinect either, just the idea that it completely substituted core games, going by the systems total library, not a selective approach.

When the systems fanboys try to pass of Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers knockoffs as 'domination' to cover up a poor year for gaming on the system.....

> Oh but you'll dismiss the multiplats,...And I'm not denying the prevailent precense of Kinect either,AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]> Oh but you'll dismiss the multiplats,...And I'm not denying the prevailent precense of Kinect either,Heil68