How Far Would PC Be Right Now If It Weren't Held Back By Consoles?

And another padded room has been built. At this rate, we'll be a full-blown asylum in less than a month! :(

And another padded room has been built. At this rate, we'll be a full-blown asylum in less than a month! :(

Rocker6

Did I ever tell you the definiton of insanity?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

And another padded room has been built. At this rate, we'll be a full-blown asylum in less than a month! :(

Goyoshi12

Did I ever tell you the definiton of insanity?

Consoles do not hold back PC gaming.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

And another padded room has been built. At this rate, we'll be a full-blown asylum in less than a month! :(

Goyoshi12

Did I ever tell you the definiton of insanity?

You didn't need to, I figured it out by myself. It goes like this:

heeeeeeeeweeeeee / ripmetalrip / ucasuals / everythingtrash / everythingcasua / etc, etc, etc...

Consoles do not hold back PC gaming.

SUD123456

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

And another padded room has been built. At this rate, we'll be a full-blown asylum in less than a month! :(

Rocker6

Did I ever tell you the definiton of insanity?

You didn't need to, I figured it out by myself. It goes like this:

heeeeeeeeweeeeee / ripmetalrip / ucasuals / everythingtrash / everythingcasua / etc, etc, etc...

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Consoles do not hold back PC gaming.

everythingcasua

No they don't and you need to accept this fact of business.

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Consoles do not hold back PC gaming.

SUD123456

No they don't and you need to accept this fact of business.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"] Yes they do and you need to accept it's a fact of life.everythingcasua

No they don't and you need to accept this fact of business.

Grow up.

Largest number of exclusives = PC.

How exactly does the existence of consoles hold back the development of these exclusive games?

Think carefully before answering.

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

No they don't and you need to accept this fact of business.

SUD123456

Grow up.

Largest number of exclusives = PC.

How exactly does the existence of consoles hold back the development of these exclusive games?

Think carefully before answering.

Uuummm... isn't PC an OPEN PLATFORM? There's nothing to hold PC gaming back but the developers. Maybe if PC gamers would actually PAY FOR THE GAMES and stop trying to get them for FREE or dirt cheap, more developers would be making more quality games for that platform. I think many developers got tired of making all these GREAT PC games and then not getting much payment in return for all their hard work.

Uuummm... isn't PC an OPEN PLATFORM? There's nothing to hold PC back but the developers. Maybe if PC gamers would actually PAY FOR THE GAMES and stop trying to get them for FREE or dirt cheap, more developers would be making more quality games for that platform. I think many developers got tired of making all these GREAT PC games and then not getting much payment in return for all their hard work. blackace

meh

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"] Yes they do and you need to accept it's a fact of life.04dcarraher

No they don't and you need to accept this fact of business.

Incorrect.

The answer to business questions can always be deduced by following the money: specifically, who is buying what?

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

No they don't and you need to accept this fact of business.

SUD123456

Incorrect.

The answer to business questions can always be deduced by following the money: specifically, who is buying what?

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"] hhahahah they couldnt do direct port to console had to remove levels and half the foliage. BECAUSE CONSOLE HOLDS BACK PC. lol if the game was designed for console originally they shouldnt of had to remove the stuff. NOW ACCEPT CONSOLE HOLDS BACK PC U DUMBASS KIDeverythingcasua

Grow up.

Largest number of exclusives = PC.

How exactly does the existence of consoles hold back the development of these exclusive games?

Think carefully before answering.

Try again.

The state of PC gaming is driven entirely by what PC gamers are willing to buy.

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Grow up.

Largest number of exclusives = PC.

How exactly does the existence of consoles hold back the development of these exclusive games?

Think carefully before answering.

SUD123456

Try again.

The state of PC gaming is driven entirely by what PC gamers are willing to buy.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"] pc exclusives are low budget pieces of crap now because of consoles.everythingcasua

Try again.

The state of PC gaming is driven entirely by what PC gamers are willing to buy.

If you are getting crap games then that is the fault of you and other PC gamers and has nothing whatsoever to do with consoles.

[QUOTE="everythingcasua"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Try again.

The state of PC gaming is driven entirely by what PC gamers are willing to buy.

SUD123456

If you are getting crap games then that is the fault of you and other PC gamers and has nothing whatsoever to do with consoles.

Oh man...I'm scared...badass gamer from 1984 threathening to kill me.

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[QUOTE="everythingcasua"] All this money isnt getting me good pc games. im getting crap gameseverythingcasua

If you are getting crap games then that is the fault of you and other PC gamers and has nothing whatsoever to do with consoles.

Well I understand how capitalism works:D

1. The PC has the most exclusives...their quality has nothing to do with consoles. Buy these games.

2. The PC has many multiplats where development is done by platform and the PC version is not held back. You can also buy these games.

3. The PC has many multiplats where development is not done by platform. Don't buy these games and they will stop being made.

4. If you stop #3, there will be more of #1 and #2.

5. And the actual trends in gameplay, etc, or in your terms whether they are good or crap games, is driven by the sales figures for 1, 2, and 3. So good sales tend to be rewarded with sequels and copycats.

Ergo, PC gaming is succeeding, or not, solely based on the buying habits of PC gamers.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

No they don't and you need to accept this fact of business.

SUD123456

Incorrect.

The answer to business questions can always be deduced by following the money: specifically, who is buying what?

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Multiplatform games designed around consoles do hold pc's back. But in general not really, since companies target widest range of gamers as possible.04dcarraher

Incorrect.

The answer to business questions can always be deduced by following the money: specifically, who is buying what?

Don't buy multiplats.

Problem solved.

The point being that the supply side of the market responds entirely to the demand side...meaning that PC gamer buying habits determine what games they get, not anything else.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

Lol with out sconsoles Gaming would be much more of a niche. Kiss most of your big budget AAA multiplats good buy, because studios just plain wouldn't exist.

Ballroompirate

Pretty much this.

PC gaming was tiny and would have stayed tiny if it wasn't for the consoles and handhelds expanding the market. An expansion to the market brought more people into PC gaming, helping it grow.

I agree with Wasdie.

In the end PC helped console gaming and vice versa, without ether we wouldn't have the PC and console games we have today.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Incorrect.

The answer to business questions can always be deduced by following the money: specifically, who is buying what?

SUD123456

Don't buy multiplats.

Problem solved.

The point being that the supply side of the market responds entirely to the demand side...meaning that PC gamer buying habits determine what games they get, not anything else.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Sorry your incorrect, The sheer design and resource limits in console do affect what and how they create games and inturns affects what could have been if created on Pc.04dcarraher

Don't buy multiplats.

Problem solved.

The point being that the supply side of the market responds entirely to the demand side...meaning that PC gamer buying habits determine what games they get, not anything else.

Of course it is the answer...the point being that it is the buying habits of PC gamers that decide what is made for that market. Period. Full stop.

I am not disagreeing that the success of multiplats in PC sales breeds more multiplats, which is why there are so many multiplats. Instead I am saying that PC gamers should blame themselves as it has nothing to do with consoles.

PC gamers blaming consoles is the equivalent of obese Americans blaming McDonalds for selling them fatty foods.

There are a ton of PC exclusives. I suggest buying them. Or buy the multiplats if they interest you, but then don't whine about consoles (not directed at you personally).

Very far.

Sounds like PC isn't the master race if it's at the mercy of consoles lol

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Sorry your incorrect, The sheer design and resource limits in console do affect what and how they create games and inturns affects what could have been if created on Pc.04dcarraher

Don't buy multiplats.

Problem solved.

The point being that the supply side of the market responds entirely to the demand side...meaning that PC gamer buying habits determine what games they get, not anything else.

Nope

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Don't buy multiplats.

Problem solved.

The point being that the supply side of the market responds entirely to the demand side...meaning that PC gamer buying habits determine what games they get, not anything else.

SUD123456

Of course it is the answer...the point being that it is the buying habits of PC gamers that decide what is made for that market. Period. Full stop.

I am not disagreeing that the success of multiplats in PC sales breeds more multiplats, which is why there are so many multiplats. Instead I am saying that PC gamers should blame themselves as it has nothing to do with consoles.

PC gamers blaming consoles is the equivalent of obese Americans blaming McDonalds for selling them fatty foods.

There are a ton of PC exclusives. I suggest buying them. Or buy the multiplats if they interest you, but then don't whine about consoles (not directed at you personally).

Very far.

Sounds like PC isn't the master race if it's at the mercy of consoles lol

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