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I just wanted to know how is 360 cheaper than the PS3? I am not a fanboy or trying to persuade people to convert or whatever. I just generally want to know how is it cheaper. I am not talking about the arcade version of 360. That version is barely anything at all.

Let's break things down. For 300 dollars you can get a system and it comes with a headset and HD cables with a controller that needs batteries and does not take rechargeable batteries. They system is known to fail somewhat often although not as bad as it was before. So you might want to buy the longest warranty which is probably around 50 to 100 dollars. To play games online with 360 you need to pay 50 dollars a year to play. Let's just say the console goes on another 3 to 4 years before the next one comes out. Right there is 200 dollars. If someone has wireless internet they need to buy an adaptor aat 100 dollars (maybe) the 360 can read flash drives butcannot copy things from flash drives, does not have an internet browser, has a weaker D-pad, has in game chat, you can play your own music in every game, everygame on the store has a demo.Achievements are in every game. It can stream from media server It has a good library of games in all genre's except platformers.

For 400 dollars you can get a system that comes with a chargable controller with the capability of playing blu ray movies.a headset costs 40 dollars and HD cables around 10 to 20 dollars. It has free online,and does not have cross game chat and every game in store does not have a demo. It has both wireless andwired setups. Controllers don't need batteries. Charge cables are10 dollars. It is backward compatible with PS1 games. It does have an internet browser, it can copy things from flash drives, itcanstream from media server. It cannot playcustom soundtrackfrom hardware and developer needs to add in the option to do so. Trophieshave been in most games startingin 09. It has a more suitable D-pad. You can use PC gamepads on the system. You can install another operating system if you wanted to, orupgrade the hard drive with out hassle for the most part. Game library is good except for a somewhat lack of RPG's which is improving. Other than the occassional yellow light of death or laser screw up, there isn't a need to buy a warranty that much, but you still could at50 to 100 dollars. It has functionality with it's handheldthe PSP.

PS3 400 +30+ 20+100(just in case)= 540

360 300+50(a year) +100(warranty preferable)+100(adaptor if needed) =550 depending on how many years yoiu buy Live, if you have the system for 3 more years than it will cost you 700.Once again how is 360 cheaper? I am not understanding people's logic. even if you deduct the adaptor the system still costs 600 in the long run. Isn't that the original price of the PS3?

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It does take rechargable batteries, research before you make bold claims. Why the hell would they make recharge kits then? The warranty is free, so i don't understand this. I'm sorry, i forgot that everybody played with a gold account, and even if most did, it's not an issue. 200 dollars in 4 years then paying 300 in a store. It's an optional, so you can't just count that, and i got my wireless for 20 bucks, smart people don't just buy anything. Why do i need an internetbrowser on my xbox, when my computer is 1 meter from my head?I don't need a blue ray, thanks but no thanks. Why should i dish out 40 dollars for something that should be mandatory for a damn system that costs 400 dollars? Again, ''Hd system of this gen'' won't even include HD cables. 360 also has wired and wireless setups. Nice it doesn't need batteries, but then i have to dish out 30 bucks for a new custom battery or a new controller. Elite is backwards too. 80 gigs is good enough for me. Nice, make me pay 150 because sony are cheap bastards. How don't you get this, it's always cheaper over a large amount of time.
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[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

according to old cnet article, ps3 consumes twice as much as 360

sikanderahmed

personally i remember the inquirer saying something similar

so overall if you add live expenses, its really not that much higher is it? tchbo

Wow, thanks for posting this graph. I had heard the PS3 raises your power bill, but i didn't realize it would cost me a whole dollar per year more to have a ps3 than an xbox. Or are you talking about the other bar, for people that leave their console on 24-7?

I walk into a shop and buy a PS3 to play games online with. 399.

My brother walks into a shop and buys a 360 to play games online with. Then pays for Live. Then goes back to the store, because the router is on the other side of the house so he has to have a wi-fi adaptor.

It's not rocket science. Yeah, you caould add the cost of the tv, but that would be the same cost for both. The only people that are going to get the 360 Arcade, and have no other expenses to add in are not gamers anyway. For a GAMER the ps3 is cheaper.

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[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

I just wanted to know how is 360 cheaper than the PS3? hy4k

you pay less money for it. when you pay less money for something it's cheaper

This is all that needs to be said.
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I just wanted to know how is 360 cheaper than the PS3? I am not a fanboy or trying to persuade people to convert or whatever. I just generally want to know how is it cheaper. I am not talking about the arcade version of 360. That version is barely anything at all.

Let's break things down. For 300 dollars you can get a system and it comes with a headset and HD cables with a controller that needs batteries and does not take rechargeable batteries. They system is known to fail somewhat often although not as bad as it was before. So you might want to buy the longest warranty which is probably around 50 to 100 dollars. To play games online with 360 you need to pay 50 dollars a year to play. Let's just say the console goes on another 3 to 4 years before the next one comes out. Right there is 200 dollars. If someone has wireless internet they need to buy an adaptor aat 100 dollars (maybe) the 360 can read flash drives butcannot copy things from flash drives, does not have an internet browser, has a weaker D-pad, has in game chat, you can play your own music in every game, everygame on the store has a demo.Achievements are in every game. It can stream from media server It has a good library of games in all genre's except platformers.

For 400 dollars you can get a system that comes with a chargable controller with the capability of playing blu ray movies.a headset costs 40 dollars and HD cables around 10 to 20 dollars. It has free online,and does not have cross game chat and every game in store does not have a demo. It has both wireless andwired setups. Controllers don't need batteries. Charge cables are10 dollars. It is backward compatible with PS1 games. It does have an internet browser, it can copy things from flash drives, itcanstream from media server. It cannot playcustom soundtrackfrom hardware and developer needs to add in the option to do so. Trophieshave been in most games startingin 09. It has a more suitable D-pad. You can use PC gamepads on the system. You can install another operating system if you wanted to, orupgrade the hard drive with out hassle for the most part. Game library is good except for a somewhat lack of RPG's which is improving. Other than the occassional yellow light of death or laser screw up, there isn't a need to buy a warranty that much, but you still could at50 to 100 dollars. It has functionality with it's handheldthe PSP.

PS3 400 +30+ 20+100(just in case)= 540

360 300+50(a year) +100(warranty preferable)+100(adaptor if needed) =550 depending on how many years yoiu buy Live, if you have the system for 3 more years than it will cost you 700.Once again how is 360 cheaper? I am not understanding people's logic. even if you deduct the adaptor the system still costs 600 in the long run. Isn't that the original price of the PS3?

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You say you're not a fanboy, yet you come up with all of the fanboyish reasons to inflate the 360's price. Might as well add the price of a high end PC to the PS3's price, since it's needed to play 360/PC exclusives. Why not add the price of the gas it takes to get to the store, and pick it up? Ot the shipping cost, if you order it online? Since you added the price of Live, let's add the price of all the games you'll buy. How's $3,000? I am not understanding your logic. The 360 Pro cost me $374, with tax, when I bought it about 2 years ago. Stop being a fanboy, and trying to add numbers where they don't belong.
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]

personally i remember the inquirer saying something similar

ianuilliam

so overall if you add live expenses, its really not that much higher is it? tchbo

Wow, thanks for posting this graph. I had heard the PS3 raises your power bill, but i didn't realize it would cost me a whole dollar per year more to have a ps3 than an xbox. Or are you talking about the other bar, for people that leave their console on 24-7?

I walk into a shop and buy a PS3 to play games online with. 399.

My brother walks into a shop and buys a 360 to play games online with. Then pays for Live. Then goes back to the store, because the router is on the other side of the house so he has to have a wi-fi adaptor.

It's not rocket science. Yeah, you caould add the cost of the tv, but that would be the same cost for both. The only people that are going to get the 360 Arcade, and have no other expenses to add in are not gamers anyway. For a GAMER the ps3 is cheaper.

yeah that graph assumes that you leave the ps3 on 24/7 just like PS fanboys assume people who buy a 360 have to get every accessory too. So in this case both are valid points since both arguments are based on assumptions. If i want to play GTAIV or Resident Evil 5 its 200.00 on the 360, and 400 on the ps3.

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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

This has been discussed many times... though opinions vary on this subject i find PS3 asa 'whole package' is the best value for money you can get when it comes to consoles...

Apparently when someone shares his opinion that PS3 is a better deal (price wise) than 360 he gets shut down by the many fanboys in here.. Seems like none of them in SW play online, so they dont pay for XBL.. None of them download DLC or XBL games, so they only need the Arcade model.. None of them use WIFI, so wired connection is enough.. None of them spend money on batteries / rechargeable batteries or battery units, the ones they got with the system never end.. also none of them consider the fact that PS3 offers so many multimedia functions and is a Blu-ray player, that doesnt count... however the same people were happy discussing that Twitter & Facebook will be available on 360, 2 things which were accessible since 2006 on PS3via webbrowser..:)

360 is cheaper compared to PS3, but unfortunately its Hardware Failure percentage/rate showed that too... still though i enjoy gaming on both consoles since bothhave great exclusives :)

DAZZER7

TC was talking about which is cheaper wich refers to price!

Value for money is a different discussion!

ok i do understand the difference between price factor (which is cheaper)& value for money you get for what you pay..

in that case PS3 & 360 cannot be compared.. unless sony release an Arcade model for PS3 (without HDD, WIFI, web browser, multimedia functions & slams in controllers which require batteries, somehow manages to make PS3 not able to play Blu-ray movies (onlyplays blu-ray games)and start charging extra for PSN) we cannot compare Arcade 360 model with PS3, pricewise..

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why not buy a pc for $100 more than a ps3, more powerful, more games and more possibilities?

when i walk into a store i see 360 £129 for 60gb 360 and £299 for ps3. just because the ps3 has more features and is worth it's price it's still more expensive.

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[QUOTE="hy4k"]

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

I just wanted to know how is 360 cheaper than the PS3? The_Game21x

you pay less money for it. when you pay less money for something it's cheaper

This is all that needs to be said.

Unfortunately it's not that simple if you want to think about getting the most of what the Xbox 360 can do long term...
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#59 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

Ask your mother how money works. You'll figure it out.

End of the day the PS3 is more expensive. I've got to buy a car to get into town, I've got to buy petrol, buy a PS3, buy a tv, buy a house to actually play it in, buy internet and then somehow I've got to find the money to buy over priced movies on the thing. Not to meantion video games! Nightmare, way to pricey.

Mckenna1845

this, why does everyone not buy a ferrari? it goes much faster than a ford focus, and it's only £50,000. despite it being worth 50,000 i would buy a ford focus, unless i had the money (of course), while this example is overexaggerated massively it's sort of the same concept.

a better example why not buy a pc for $100 more than a ps3, more powerful, more games and more possibilities?

i'll give you $499 and you build me a PC which plays all current games on High settings and the ones coming out within the next 2 yrs.. deal ?

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[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

I just wanted to know how is 360 cheaper than the PS3? I am not a fanboy or trying to persuade people to convert or whatever. I just generally want to know how is it cheaper. I am not talking about the arcade version of 360. That version is barely anything at all.

Let's break things down. For 300 dollars you can get a system and it comes with a headset and HD cables with a controller that needs batteries and does not take rechargeable batteries. They system is known to fail somewhat often although not as bad as it was before. So you might want to buy the longest warranty which is probably around 50 to 100 dollars. To play games online with 360 you need to pay 50 dollars a year to play. Let's just say the console goes on another 3 to 4 years before the next one comes out. Right there is 200 dollars. If someone has wireless internet they need to buy an adaptor aat 100 dollars (maybe) the 360 can read flash drives butcannot copy things from flash drives, does not have an internet browser, has a weaker D-pad, has in game chat, you can play your own music in every game, everygame on the store has a demo.Achievements are in every game. It can stream from media server It has a good library of games in all genre's except platformers.

For 400 dollars you can get a system that comes with a chargable controller with the capability of playing blu ray movies.a headset costs 40 dollars and HD cables around 10 to 20 dollars. It has free online,and does not have cross game chat and every game in store does not have a demo. It has both wireless andwired setups. Controllers don't need batteries. Charge cables are10 dollars. It is backward compatible with PS1 games. It does have an internet browser, it can copy things from flash drives, itcanstream from media server. It cannot playcustom soundtrackfrom hardware and developer needs to add in the option to do so. Trophieshave been in most games startingin 09. It has a more suitable D-pad. You can use PC gamepads on the system. You can install another operating system if you wanted to, orupgrade the hard drive with out hassle for the most part. Game library is good except for a somewhat lack of RPG's which is improving. Other than the occassional yellow light of death or laser screw up, there isn't a need to buy a warranty that much, but you still could at50 to 100 dollars. It has functionality with it's handheldthe PSP.

PS3 400 +30+ 20+100(just in case)= 540

360 300+50(a year) +100(warranty preferable)+100(adaptor if needed) =550 depending on how many years yoiu buy Live, if you have the system for 3 more years than it will cost you 700.Once again how is 360 cheaper? I am not understanding people's logic. even if you deduct the adaptor the system still costs 600 in the long run. Isn't that the original price of the PS3?

MortalDecay
You say you're not a fanboy, yet you come up with all of the fanboyish reasons to inflate the 360's price. Might as well add the price of a high end PC to the PS3's price, since it's needed to play 360/PC exclusives. Why not add the price of the gas it takes to get to the store, and pick it up? Ot the shipping cost, if you order it online? Since you added the price of Live, let's add the price of all the games you'll buy. How's $3,000? I am not understanding your logic. The 360 Pro cost me $374, with tax, when I bought it about 2 years ago. Stop being a fanboy, and trying to add numbers where they don't belong.

The TC over exaggerated the costs for the Xbox 360, but your just exaggerating everything too out of your annoyance with him by saying things, "I am not understanding your logic." You clearly DO understand his logic, but you're angry since he exaggerated the costs.
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[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

This has been discussed many times... though opinions vary on this subject i find PS3 asa 'whole package' is the best value for money you can get when it comes to consoles...

Apparently when someone shares his opinion that PS3 is a better deal (price wise) than 360 he gets shut down by the many fanboys in here.. Seems like none of them in SW play online, so they dont pay for XBL.. None of them download DLC or XBL games, so they only need the Arcade model.. None of them use WIFI, so wired connection is enough.. None of them spend money on batteries / rechargeable batteries or battery units, the ones they got with the system never end.. also none of them consider the fact that PS3 offers so many multimedia functions and is a Blu-ray player, that doesnt count... however the same people were happy discussing that Twitter & Facebook will be available on 360, 2 things which were accessible since 2006 on PS3via webbrowser..:)

360 is cheaper compared to PS3, but unfortunately its Hardware Failure percentage/rate showed that too... still though i enjoy gaming on both consoles since bothhave great exclusives :)

Malta_1980

TC was talking about which is cheaper wich refers to price!

Value for money is a different discussion!

ok i do understand the difference between price factor (which is cheaper)& value for money you get for what you pay..

in that case PS3 & 360 cannot be compared.. unless sony release an Arcade model for PS3 (without HDD, WIFI, web browser, multimedia functions & slams in controllers which require batteries, somehow manages to make PS3 not able to play Blu-ray movies (onlyplays blu-ray games)and start charging extra for PSN) we cannot compare Arcade 360 model with PS3, pricewise..

Well you can compare really. Like I said before, 2 people walk into the store and get theapest version of each console. Each console comes in a box, just like a Wii would just like a PS2, Xbox or PS1 would.

A guy who walks out with a 360 in a box will have paid less than someone walking out with a PS3 in a box. Someone walking out with a PS2 will have paid even less. Thats essentially what I was getting at. I personally hate the arcade version.

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[QUOTE="hy4k"]

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

I just wanted to know how is 360 cheaper than the PS3? BoloTheGreat

you pay less money for it. when you pay less money for something it's cheaper

Why are the cows so unable to do this simple arithmetic? It IS cheaper, there are no two ways about it. £250 (elite + 3 games + extra controller) is less than £300 (Ps3+1 game)

Because when your the TC (already bought a ps3) then you want to buy a 360 that has similar or Exact features you can't and the 360 is more expensive.

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Well you can compare really. Like I said before, 2 people walk into the store and get theapest version of each console. Each console comes in a box, just like a Wii would just like a PS2, Xbox or PS1 would.

A guy who walks out with a 360 in a box will have paid less than someone walking out with a PS3 in a box. Someone walking out with a PS2 will have paid even less. Thats essentially what I was getting at. I personally hate the arcade version.

DAZZER7

i know what you mean, dont get me wrong i like my 360 but i got the Arcade and trust me i had to pay for the extra stuff like HDD, battery unit and Wifi cause my set up is based on wireless... I know i dont need all this stuff from the get go but you cant say you dont need HDD.. you'll miss on the Xbl games, downloading demos for testing, DLC for many many games etc.. You're not forced to pay for xbl but why bother buying games like Halo3, Geow2, COD4 etc which rely heavily on online?

Its like we both get in a car showroom, you get aX car& i get a Y car.. both are amazing sports cars but yours is $50000 and mine is $60000... the difference is mine has all the extras like airconditioning, cool alloy wheels, a sound system & more.. yours is basic... sure you still drive the car but if you eventually try to upgrade to all those extras from $50000 it will end up costing $65000 which is more than i bought mine in the first place..

i think for $200 more (compared to the arcade) Ps3 has Blu-ray, multimedia functions, 7.1 sound capabilities, Free online, HDD, controller which dont require batteries & may i add also a much more reliable hardware.. not that bad..

I hope you get my point..

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Because $199 is less than $399. Math is strange that way.
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i'll give you $499 and you build me a PC which plays all current games on High settings and the ones coming out within the next 2 yrs.. deal ?

Malta_1980

i don't live in america so getting prices is difficult. i did find this from 2007 though, so it will be cheaper now, and you could get better parts, but the 8800gt is an awesome card, i have it and it maxes out most games.

e2140 overclocked to 3.2 ghz on stock hsf costs $68 at ewiz.com.

ip35-e for $66.

200 gb sata hdd for $42.

dvr-111dbk for $13 great dual layer burner.

bfg oc 8800gt for 249.99 after coupon about $220 only lasts a few more days.

Then get on newegg and get yourself an x-dreamer 2 pc case with 420 psu for $60.

While there grab 2gb of adata ddr2667 ram for $40.

well under $600 that can run crysis max and scores 12500 in 3dmark 06. It really has been a wonderful week putting this thing together.

nmaharg

thats just under $500. price is from 2007 too, so you could probably get an os now.

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[QUOTE="mD-"] Unfortunately it's not that simple if you want to think about getting the most of what the Xbox 360 can do long term...

the question was how is the 360 cheaper than the PS3? the answer is that it costs less money the issue of unnecessary add-ons and additional fees doesn't enter into it. it is a very simple question
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Entry price for PS3 is more expensive, but the 360 catches up you just don't notice it as much because M$ cleverly spreads each purchase out.

HDD (if arcade)

Wifi

XBL ($50/year)

HDMI (if arcade)

The biggest kicker is the yearly fee of XBL, but you don't have to play online....right? ;)

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[QUOTE="mD-"] Unfortunately it's not that simple if you want to think about getting the most of what the Xbox 360 can do long term...hy4k
the question was how is the 360 cheaper than the PS3? the answer is that it costs less money the issue of unnecessary add-ons and additional fees doesn't enter into it. it is a very simple question

Everyone knows the word cheaper means less money. (You are not supposed to give a definition with the word you are supposed to difine) Yours Cheaper / less money... The simple answer would be: the 360 has less features.

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Instant price: 360 Long term/if you need add ons: PS3 End of...
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What these threads fail to consider is, your needs for gaming aren't everyone's needs for gaming. My buddy has an Arcade and that's enough for him. He did take advantage of the offer MS had with20 gig HDD for 25 bucks in Nov. 08. That is all. It works for him. And that is beautiful. Freedom of choice.
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[QUOTE="hy4k"][QUOTE="mD-"] Unfortunately it's not that simple if you want to think about getting the most of what the Xbox 360 can do long term...

the question was how is the 360 cheaper than the PS3? the answer is that it costs less money the issue of unnecessary add-ons and additional fees doesn't enter into it. it is a very simple question

Yes, I know the question. I already answered in one of my post a while back: the arcade version is $199 and the 80gig PS3 is $400. Based on the TC's first post, I think that the question he really meant to ask is: "how is the xbox 360 cheaper than the ps3 to a hardcore gamer over time?" The people who are responding to this question saying "it costs less money" are correct, but they are playing dumb, because they know that the TC is aware of the arcade model and everyone knows that the arcade model is the cheapest SKU. We all know what the TC is trying to get at, but then everyone plays dumb about it saying the samething. That's the thing about GameSpot. If you aren't specific on the name of your topics, you'll have people discussing things you don't want to discuss. It's kind of like one topic I saw that was titled: who is the graphics king? He showed all screenshots of games with best looking graphics on the consoles only so it was just implied that he's ONLY referring to the graphics king on the consoles. Yet, people decided to play dumb and they kept saying Crysis while posting the same old Crysis screenshots. Someone later replied, "well he should have said graphics king of consoles".
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

[QUOTE="hy4k"]

you pay less money for it. when you pay less money for something it's cheaper

LOXO7

Why are the cows so unable to do this simple arithmetic? It IS cheaper, there are no two ways about it. £250 (elite + 3 games + extra controller) is less than £300 (Ps3+1 game)

Because when your the TC (already bought a ps3) then you want to buy a 360 that has similar or Exact features you can't and the 360 is more expensive.

Exact features BS is fanboyism at it's worst, the 360 is not MEANT to have exact features. Why try and make the 360into a PS3? If you want to play games then a standard 360 will be enough.
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#75 BioShockOwnz
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Clearly, $200-$300 is cheaper than $400-$500.

Whatever the value is to the consumer is all subjective, because it depends what each consumer wants.

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Why are the cows so unable to do this simple arithmetic? It IS cheaper, there are no two ways about it. £250 (elite + 3 games + extra controller) is less than £300 (Ps3+1 game)

BoloTheGreat

Because when your the TC (already bought a ps3) then you want to buy a 360 that has similar or Exact features you can't and the 360 is more expensive.

Exact features BS is fanboyism at it's worst, the 360 is not MEANT to have exact features. Why try and make the 360into a PS3? If you want to play games then a standard 360 will be enough.

Why call it fanboyism...lol. I agree with you that the Xbox 360 is the cheapest alternative to play games. If I wanted to play single player call of duty right now, and went straight to a store. Buying an Xbox 360 arcade would be the cheapest way to straight up play that game. But, do you agree with me that for a typical hardcore gamer who plays online every year, that the PS3 is cheaper alternative over time and has more bang for buck?
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[QUOTE="mD-"] Yes, I know the question. I already answered in one of my post a while back: the arcade version is $199 and the 80gig PS3 is $400. Based on the TC's first post, I think that the question he really meant to ask is: "how is the xbox 360 cheaper than the ps3 to a hardcore gamer over time?"

then he should have asked that and even if he did i'm sure cows would have been falling over themselves to point out the addition of wifi and a blu-ray drive. because apparently hardcore gamers dont know how to plug a cable into the back of a box and want to watch HD movies
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Why are the cows so unable to do this simple arithmetic? It IS cheaper, there are no two ways about it. £250 (elite + 3 games + extra controller) is less than £300 (Ps3+1 game)

BoloTheGreat

Because when your the TC (already bought a ps3) then you want to buy a 360 that has similar or Exact features you can't and the 360 is more expensive.

Exact features BS is fanboyism at it's worst, the 360 is not MEANT to have exact features. Why try and make the 360into a PS3? If you want to play games then a standard 360 will be enough.

Wow you talk about BS yourself! You come on sw to say 360 is cheaper because you dont have to play games online. "you" im asuming thats a casual and thats not really you because you are on SW(hardcore). So really you are talking about someone else and not yourself. ...:evil: ... Your 360 is an arcade? The TC is a gamer that wants to buy an arcade? no < what im curently talking about

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#79 mD-
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[QUOTE="hy4k"][QUOTE="mD-"] Yes, I know the question. I already answered in one of my post a while back: the arcade version is $199 and the 80gig PS3 is $400. Based on the TC's first post, I think that the question he really meant to ask is: "how is the xbox 360 cheaper than the ps3 to a hardcore gamer over time?"

then he should have asked that and even if he did i'm sure cows would have been falling over themselves to point out the addition of wifi and a blu-ray drive. because apparently hardcore gamers dont know how to plug a cable into the back of a box and want to watch HD movies

Well actually, it has nothing to do with the features like that. It would be something that cows just use to strengthen their argument even more, lol. My point is, even if you were to remove blu-ray, bluetooth, and wifi from the PS3, you could easily STILL debate the question: "how is the xbox 360 cheaper than the ps3 to a hardcore gamer over time?" The main factor here is the cost of Live every year ($30-$40).
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#80 Will2Live
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Ps3 is too expensive to me, I mean, the average cost of a house in Toronto is $739,000 *credit: TREBnet Toronto Real Estate Board

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$739,000!? Holy crap, my house is only $200,000 and you can get a house in downtown Detroit for $7,000. Toronto is expensive. . .

On topic, I never quite understood how people think that a basic 360 at $299.99 and assuming you're going wireless, another $99.99 is cheaper than a $399.99 PS3 with built in wireless. They're essentially worth the same amount.

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#81 The_saint1976
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I want to play this game also.

Xbox 360

$300.00 = console

$50.00 XBOXLIVE X 10 YEAR LIFE SPAN = $500.00

XBOX 360 = $800.00

PS3

$400.00 = console

$0.00 PSN X 10YEAR LIFE SPAN = $0.00

PS3 = $400.00

Yeah Ps3 is a alot cheaper, of corse xbox people are gonna say, "you don't need Xboxlive to play games." Then why the hell are you paying full price on games when you can't play all the content that comes with game. your paying $60.00 for Halo3 but can only play 1/2 of whats on the disk. seems like someone is getting screwed, and it isn't me.

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Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?
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Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?Stevo_the_gamer
Asking an obviously useless question are we? It's not a better experience when you get more out of the game playing on the $350 system.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?LOXO7

Asking an obviously useless question are we? It's not a better experience when you get more out of the game playing on the $350 system.

Huh? $350 system? Which system is $350? I think you might be referring to the PS3? If so, it's 400 or 500 -- not 350. You'd get more out of the game? Only if you're playing Ninja Gaiden Sigma where the game comes with exclusive content. I can't think of any other PS3 multiplats which do that though.
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Its not people just think it is but dont realize that after the extras you need it the same price if not more.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="LOXO7"]

Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?Stevo_the_gamer
Asking an obviously useless question are we? It's not a better experience when you get more out of the game playing on the $350 system.

Huh? $350 system? Which system is $350? I think you might be referring to the PS3? If so, it's 400 or 500 -- not 350. You'd get more out of the game? Only if you're playing Ninja Gaiden Sigma where the game comes with exclusive content. I can't think of any other PS3 multiplats which do that though.

Amazon 80gb, $350 they're clearing em out
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Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?Stevo_the_gamer
360 arcade 199.00 60 GB hard drive(which isnt nearly enough space) 129.00. PS3 399.00 with a 80GB hard drive WiFi and Internet browser= Better consloe in almost everyway for 40.00 more. PWNED. Oh almost forgot about rip off Live so there you go the price is equal. Anyway you spin it the PS3 gives you more bang for your buck.
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#88 mD-
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] Asking an obviously useless question are we? It's not a better experience when you get more out of the game playing on the $350 system.

hoosier7

Huh? $350 system? Which system is $350? I think you might be referring to the PS3? If so, it's 400 or 500 -- not 350. You'd get more out of the game? Only if you're playing Ninja Gaiden Sigma where the game comes with exclusive content. I can't think of any other PS3 multiplats which do that though.

Amazon 80gb, $350 they're clearing em out

Wow, I didn't notice this... why is this on slickdeals.net?

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?djsifer01
360 arcade 199.00 60 GB hard drive(which isnt nearly enough space) 129.00. PS3 399.00 with a 80GB hard drive WiFi and Internet browser= Better consloe in almost everyway for 40.00 more. PWNED.

Whatever floats your boat, I thought I was talking about games and not features that are shoved down the consumers throat. :)

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It's cheaper by logically comparing the price points of purchasing either units at a store.
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#91 walter429
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[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

Ask your mother how money works. You'll figure it out.

End of the day the PS3 is more expensive. I've got to buy a car to get into town, I've got to buy petrol, buy a PS3, buy a tv, buy a house to actually play it in, buy internet and then somehow I've got to find the money to buy over priced movies on the thing. Not to meantion video games! Nightmare, way to pricey.

I bought the internet once... lost it all to twitter :(. Sure you can play them, but you can't save the games you play for 199 though... or play them online... or even go online... or use your controller for more than 7 hours... Or watch a movie in 1080p... which is extremely important.
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?Stevo_the_gamer

Asking an obviously useless question are we? It's not a better experience when you get more out of the game playing on the $350 system.

Huh? $350 system? Which system is $350? I think you might be referring to the PS3? If so, it's 400 or 500 -- not 350. You'd get more out of the game? Only if you're playing Ninja Gaiden Sigma where the game comes with exclusive content. I can't think of any other PS3 multiplats which do that though.

You're refering the better experience to only on 360? Then you are clearly trolling lol. If we are talking about a Multiplat game = same game on all systems. The 350 dollar system is the cheapest system to play the truely better experience (online).

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#93 Silverbond
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Because $199< $399

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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?Stevo_the_gamer

360 arcade 199.00 60 GB hard drive(which isnt nearly enough space) 129.00. PS3 399.00 with a 80GB hard drive WiFi and Internet browser= Better consloe in almost everyway for 40.00 more. PWNED.

Whatever floats your boat, I thought I was talking about games and not features that are shoved down the consumers throat. :)

You can play all the multis on the PS3 for the same price on a better console how cant you see that? Sony dosent shuve extras down your throat thats MS department.
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The cows here at SW are delusional, it's like buying two sandwiches, one being about 2/3 the price of the other then arguming the more expensive one was ACTUALLY cheaper becuase it has a slightly higher verity of lettuce. It's just warping reality to the point of stupidity
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You're refering the better experience to only on 360? Then you are clearly trolling lol. If we are talking about a Multiplat game = same game on all systems. The 350 dollar system is the cheapest system to play the truely better experience (online).LOXO7

Huh? The vast majority of multiplatform games are indeed equal, if not, superior on the Xbox 360 then on the PS3. That's not "trolling" is any way shape or form. Where the heck did you pull that weird assumption out there? Again, the Playstation 3 is not $349.99 -- it's $399.99 or $499.99. I'm interested in Fallout 3, which system should I get? :)

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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Easy. If I need to play a mutiplatform game, why should I pay $400 to play that game when I can pay half that and receive the same, or better experience?Stevo_the_gamer

360 arcade 199.00 60 GB hard drive(which isnt nearly enough space) 129.00. PS3 399.00 with a 80GB hard drive WiFi and Internet browser= Better consloe in almost everyway for 40.00 more. PWNED.

Whatever floats your boat, I thought I was talking about games and not features that are shoved down the consumers throat. :)

Shoved down the consumers throat? These are different consoles with different capabilities. Just because the Xbox 360 is cheap up front gives you choice, doesn't make it an amazing value. Let me ask you something. Which version of the Xbox 360 do you have? (if you have a 20gb version or any other we will just say that's equivalent to the current 60gb version). Also, how many months/years have you played on xbox live? Lastly, is there any other accessory you own excluding controllers.
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The cows here at SW are delusional, it's like buying two sandwiches, one being about 2/3 the price of the other then arguming the more expensive one was ACTUALLY cheaper becuase it has a slightly higher verity of lettuce. It's just warping reality to the point of stupidity BoloTheGreat
Wow the logic of some people. What you said makes no sense and you analogy is super flawed. Who in there right mind plays games this gen without a hard drive? Dont you lems see what MS is doing ? Yah there giving you a striped down pinto and saying now go buy the tires and wheels you need to drive it.
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you can play all the multis on the PS3 for the same price on a better console how cant you see that? Sony dosent shuve extras down your throat thats MS department.djsifer01
The same price? 200 = 400? Now, mate ... Uh, well. I'm sorry to say... but, your math? yeah, it's a tad bit off. Microsoft forces things down consumers throats? Liek HD-DVD? Oh wait, optional. Wi-fi? Oh wait, optional. XBL? Oh wait, optional. Am I missing something here?

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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]The cows here at SW are delusional, it's like buying two sandwiches, one being about 2/3 the price of the other then arguming the more expensive one was ACTUALLY cheaper becuase it has a slightly higher verity of lettuce. It's just warping reality to the point of stupidity djsifer01
Wow the logic of some people. What you said makes no sense and you analogy is super flawed. Who in there right mind plays games this gen without a hard drive? Dont you lems see what MS is doing ? Yah there giving you a striped down pinto and saying now go buy the tires and wheels you need to drive it.

The elite is cheaper than any of the Ps3's.