How is Nintendo rehashing, and Sony and Microsoft not?

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#101 GD1551
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]They had a lot more but you might not consider them core titles.foxhound_fox
He probably wouldn't consider any Nintendo game a core title. It's all kiddie crap to him.

Yeah, I've called nintendo games kiddie before.. right? I've called them alot of things but kiddie is not one that I remember doing.

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#102 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="masterninja9"]

Because low IQ PlaySlaves and XBots think Mario Kart and Mario Tennis are the same franchise.

masterninja9

Because they are the same franchise. I think you should try to understand what the word franchise means.

Then allow me to rephrase it: Because low IQ PlaySlaves and XBots think Mario Kart and Mario Tennis are the same series.

 

But regardless, the point still stands.

QFT.
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#103 Bardock47
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Sorry, had to sleep and enjoy the day. Anyway back to topic at hand.

  1. WE ARE ONLY COMPARING THIS GEN, LAST GEN AND NEXT GEN THUS FAR BECAUSE M$ WASNT AROUND THAT LONG, THIS IS FOR FAIR COMPAIRSON.
  2. Mario Tennis, Party, Kart isnt the same has the main 2D/3D franchises. What do you not understand? Is it becasue he is on the box, or has Mario in the title? You do realize I can play Mario Kart and never touch Mario? The name of those games should be more like Mushroom Kingdom Kart.....featuring DK. The reason it has Mario in the title is to grab the attention of the masses, because avaerage joe doesnt know what Mushroom Kingdom is! It is a SPINOFF, i removed Halo Wars from the count due to gameplay differences, which leads me to my next two points.
  3. Seperating the Mario platformers is becasue they are very different games in term of desgin. Sure you still jummo and platform and each, but the way you go about it is different, it would be saying Halo and CoD are the same becasue you shoot guns.
  4. My question for you all, should I lump every game together becasue it is simply is the same Ip? This would lum radically different branches of the same fracnchise together. (all the MArio racers,parties, and rppgs would be lumped together, even though they all play complelty differently and are only comaprable int he sense they use the same Ip, this would also lump Halo Wars back with the other Halo games.
  5. Moving on from that, yes I missed a few, (not intentional mind you) it ruffles the jimmies that much I'll fix the numbers
  6. Do we really need to count Link's Crossbow Training as a full game? Thats a glorfied demo of the zapper, or whatver its called.
  7. THE POINT OF ALL THIS: To show you that everyone rehases, I have said it before in the thread. THIS IS NOT A YAY NINTENDO ROCKS THREAD. Im painting them just as bad if not worse. While we can argue about how many new Ips Nintendo does bring to the table compared to the other two, that is a topic for another discussion Id would like to start another time. I'd argue while not as good as say..Sony, they do a helluva better job then M$ and have the potential to do more.
  8. But again that isnt the point, point is everyone rehashes there stuff. Its a matter of opion whehther thats good or bad, persoanlly, I love Halo  and Zelda, so the fact they have made so many of them doesnt bug me...as long as they are good games of coruse, most often they are.  Im just pointing it all out
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#104 conkertheking1
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"Rehash" is just the dumbass's term for "sequel".

I could understand if somebody doesnt like the 2D Mario's being so similar, but hey, Ninty could have just made three ports of the original DS game, but they didn't.

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#105 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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I don't care how many games a franchise has as long as the games are innovative. Look at halo for example Halo 1: Redefined console shooters Halo 2: Perfected online multiplayer and added a 1 - 50 ranking system and nearly brought in theater Halo 3: Added theater mode and forge and generally improved on a lot but it wasn't as innovative as the previous halo games. Halo ODST: Firefight was really well done and the single player was completely different to past halo games. Halo Wars: A very underrated RTS game which worked extremely well on consoles Halo Reach: Added the armoury and armour abilities like jetpacks and generally just changed halo a lot (for the worse but still) Halo Anniversary: Proabably the best remake so far and it only cost me £25 on launch Halo 4: Added a few cool new features but it was the weakest halo game imo Not all of those things were done first in halo but most of them were pretty big deals at the time
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#106 VanDammFan
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I don't care how many games a franchise has as long as the games are innovative. Look at halo for example Halo 1: Redefined console shooters Halo 2: Perfected online multiplayer and added a 1 - 50 ranking system and nearly brought in theater Halo 3: Added theater mode and forge and generally improved on a lot but it wasn't as innovative as the previous halo games. Halo ODST: Firefight was really well done and the single player was completely different to past halo games. Halo Wars: A very underrated RTS game which worked extremely well on consoles Halo Reach: Added the armoury and armour abilities like jetpacks and generally just changed halo a lot (for the worse but still) Halo Anniversary: Proabably the best remake so far and it only cost me £25 on launch Halo 4: Added a few cool new features but it was the weakest halo game imo Not all of those things were done first in halo but most of them were pretty big deals at the time XxR3m1xInHDn3D

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#107 PsychoLemons
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Double standards at its best.

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#108 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] No skewing whatsoever, Nintendo is still using franchise from 30 years ago, FACT!Darth-Samus

Nobody is denying that. It is fact.

Exactly. It is a fact. And an irrelevant one at that. Especially in context to my post he was responding to. So what exact point that kid is trying to make I assure you that I have zero idea.

Because if they want to single out Nintendo, they can do so. They have the facts to back them up. Understand now, sheep?

 

You Nintendo fanboys cry way too fvckin' much.

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#109 Bardock47
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[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Nobody is denying that. It is fact.rjdofu

Exactly. It is a fact. And an irrelevant one at that. Especially in context to my post he was responding to. So what exact point that kid is trying to make I assure you that I have zero idea.

Because if they want to single out Nintendo, they can do so. They have the facts to back them up. Understand now, sheep?

 

You Nintendo fanboys cry way too fvckin' much.

Sony and M$ havent been in hte game as long to see if they do. However, the way the Halo franchise is being held, Im sure they both will also have franchises continue for a long while simlar to Nintendo. I took the time frame for an equal comparison to show tath everyone does it.

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#110 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

Exactly. It is a fact. And an irrelevant one at that. Especially in context to my post he was responding to. So what exact point that kid is trying to make I assure you that I have zero idea.

Bardock47

Because if they want to single out Nintendo, they can do so. They have the facts to back them up. Understand now, sheep?

 

You Nintendo fanboys cry way too fvckin' much.

Sony and M$ havent been in hte game as long to see if they do. However, the way the Halo franchise is being held, Im sure they both will also have franchises continue for a long while simlar to Nintendo. I took the time frame for an equal comparison to show tath everyone does it.

And i'm sure Nintendo will keep those franchise as long as they live. Also, 1-2 franchises, vs how many from Nintendo?
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Nintendo........lol
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#112 NathanDrakeSwag
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Nintendo has been rehashing the same games for 30 years. They release a dozen Mario games every year. Sony's longest running franchises are Gran Turismo and Twisted Metal and neither are close to being annual releases. 

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#113 MonsieurX
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Nintendo has been rehashing the same games for 30 years. They release a dozen Mario games every year. Sony's longest running franchises are Gran Turismo and Twisted Metal and neither are close to being annual releases. 

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But releasing a demo for sale is fine :lol:
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#114 BlaveBrave
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lol silly Bardock trying to much sense in system wars

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#115 KillzoneSnake
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This one dumb thread, No problem.

Sony has been making new IP's every gen. While nintendo's last i think was pikmin back in the gamecube days lol.

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#116 HalcyonScarlet
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Sorry, had to sleep and enjoy the day. Anyway back to topic at hand.

  1. WE ARE ONLY COMPARING THIS GEN, LAST GEN AND NEXT GEN THUS FAR BECAUSE M$ WASNT AROUND THAT LONG, THIS IS FOR FAIR COMPAIRSON.
  2. Mario Tennis, Party, Kart isnt the same has the main 2D/3D franchises. What do you not understand? Is it becasue he is on the box, or has Mario in the title? You do realize I can play Mario Kart and never touch Mario? The name of those games should be more like Mushroom Kingdom Kart.....featuring DK. The reason it has Mario in the title is to grab the attention of the masses, because avaerage joe doesnt know what Mushroom Kingdom is! It is a SPINOFF, i removed Halo Wars from the count due to gameplay differences, which leads me to my next two points.
  3. Seperating the Mario platformers is becasue they are very different games in term of desgin. Sure you still jummo and platform and each, but the way you go about it is different, it would be saying Halo and CoD are the same becasue you shoot guns.
  4. My question for you all, should I lump every game together becasue it is simply is the same Ip? This would lum radically different branches of the same fracnchise together. (all the MArio racers,parties, and rppgs would be lumped together, even though they all play complelty differently and are only comaprable int he sense they use the same Ip, this would also lump Halo Wars back with the other Halo games.
  5. Moving on from that, yes I missed a few, (not intentional mind you) it ruffles the jimmies that much I'll fix the numbers
  6. Do we really need to count Link's Crossbow Training as a full game? Thats a glorfied demo of the zapper, or whatver its called.
  7. THE POINT OF ALL THIS: To show you that everyone rehases, I have said it before in the thread. THIS IS NOT A YAY NINTENDO ROCKS THREAD. Im painting them just as bad if not worse. While we can argue about how many new Ips Nintendo does bring to the table compared to the other two, that is a topic for another discussion Id would like to start another time. I'd argue while not as good as say..Sony, they do a helluva better job then M$ and have the potential to do more.
  8. But again that isnt the point, point is everyone rehashes there stuff. Its a matter of opion whehther thats good or bad, persoanlly, I love Halo  and Zelda, so the fact they have made so many of them doesnt bug me...as long as they are good games of coruse, most often they are.  Im just pointing it all out

Bardock47

Well why don't you apply the rules to the others.

Is Forza Horizon part of the main series, no, I don't even like it, it's completely different, even down to the physics. It's Forza by name only, just to give it instant recognition like Mario Kart. That's 3 main series Forza games this gen. The track racing game plays completely different to the open world game, which feels more like a codemasters arcade game. It's not even made by Turn 10.

Also, what are all these Fable games? There is 3 only in the main series as far as I can tell. 2 released this gen. But i'm guessing you included the kinect game and the arcade live game.

"it would be saying Halo and CoD are the same because you shoot guns." But you're counting ODST which plays completely different. And if we're only doing main series games, does ODST count? Not really, I think it's highly debatable. So that's 3 main series Halo games released this gen (3, Reach, 4).

Isn't there only 2 main series Killzone games this gen? PSP gen has ended and it isn't main series.

3 main series Resistance games this gen, PSP gen ended and one spin off on the Vita.

If we're apply re-release rules, Pikmin and Metroid were re-released on the Wii. So that's Metroid Prime 3 games, other M that's 4 and 2 pikmin games last gen, one this gen. All under Nintendos 'New Play Control' series.

This re-release thing goes on and on with Nintendo if we start including handhelds which I can't really be bothered to do.

See, you are categorising Nintendo games and justifying them, but you aren't allowing these rules to apply to games on other consoles.

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#117 BlaveBrave
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This one dumb thread, No problem.

Sony has been making new IP's every gen. While nintendo's last i think was pikmin back in the gamecube days lol.

KillzoneSnake

If you actually read the whole thread or paid attention to game releases you would know your statement is false.

Mr. KillZoneSnake

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#118 VanDammFan
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again..go back a few pages and you'll see the real answer to this question..MINE..its not JUST about same ole same..

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#119 campzor
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Just curious? After all Nintendo just does 1980s rehashs correct? Idk what to call whatever the hell  MS and Sony are doing, but its looks pretty similar and the fact that you call Nintendo out for putting out a sequel is garbage. Just look at the facts. I posted a couple franchise standings down below for comparison. What did I find? The numbers are extremly similar. This is including hand helds and console releases. 

 Lets compare this gen, last gen, and any announced games for next gen to get a good example. Bundles arent included, i was confused with which gen the DS, 3DS, PSP, and Vita were so I considered 3DS and Vita this gen, DS and PSP last gen for sake of argument, can be changed if needed.

  • Halo Games: 7 (5 this gen only)
  • Fable Games: 6 ( 5 this gen only)
  • Forza Games: 6 (4 this gen only)
  • Gears of War: 4 this gen only
  • Uncharted: 5 (3 this gen only)
  • Killzone: 6 ( 3 this gen only)
  • Resistance 5 (4 this gen only)
  • Mario Side Scrollers: 4 ( 2 this gen only)
  • Mario 3D platformers: 5 (2 this gen only)
  • Legend of Zelda:8( 4 this gen)
  • Metroid: 5 ( 3 this gen)
  • Pikmin 3 ( 0 this gen)

 

 

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